Something From Nothing

Something From Nothing

Dini yoyote ni ulaghai wabkizamani unaopitwa na wakati.""We are on our way tobmake the earth a better place to live'"

We have killed many of your gods and we still kill them and sure we gonna kill all of your gods
Non theism is a religion that believes in the negative gods and demigoddesses.
 
I always say once you accept islam,your thinking/reasoning capacity decreases at an increasing rate,why? The answer is,islam discourage reasoning.

It does not take a genius to realize kwamba ukilinganisha maandiko ya Paulo na Allah,Paulo aliandika vitu vya msingi na maana kuliko Allah. Ukichukua maandiko ya Paulo as a human na Allah as a god, Paulo alikua na akili kuliko huyo mungu.

Btw,Allah says we have to believe whatsoever the fool believes.
Safi sana. Jibu hili limemkimbiza hapa.
 
Safi sana. Jibu hili limemkimbiza hapa.


Deception



Thus by small steps a complex weave of fantasy is woven. As indeed the Church Fathers cheerfully admit:



"I will only mention the Apostle Paul. ... He, then, if anyone, ought to be calumniated; we should speak thus to him: ‘The proofs which you have used against the Jews and against other heretics bear a different meaning in their own contexts to that which they bear in your Epistles.



We see passages taken captive by your pen and pressed into service to win you a victory, which in volumes from which they are taken have no controversial bearing at all ... the line so often adopted by strong men in controversy

– of justifying the means by the result."


– St. Jerome, Epistle to Pammachus (xlviii, 13; N&PNF. vi, 72-73)




Was Saint Paul an unabashed liar?

From this verse in Romans it would appear so:



"For if the truth of God hath more abounded by my lie unto his glory, why yet am I also adjudged a sinner?"
– St. Paul, Romans 3.7.


However in context Paul is actually censuring other Christians who say "Let us do evil, that good may come" (that is, from God's judgement). But like Paul we can "take the passage captive" to make a point.
 
I always say once you accept islam,your thinking/reasoning capacity decreases at an increasing rate,why? The answer is,islam discourage reasoning.

It does not take a genius to realize kwamba ukilinganisha maandiko ya Paulo na Allah,Paulo aliandika vitu vya msingi na maana kuliko Allah. Ukichukua maandiko ya Paulo as a human na Allah as a god, Paulo alikua na akili kuliko huyo mungu.

Btw,Allah says we have to believe whatsoever the fool believes.

wazee wa kanisa lako wanasemaje ??


Luminaries of Deception




Jerome is not alone in his candour. Bishop Eusebius, the official propagandist for Constantine, entitles the 32nd Chapter of his 12th Book of Evangelical Preparation:

"How it may be Lawful and Fitting to use Falsehood as a Medicine, and for the Benefit of those who Want to be Deceived."


Eusebius
is notoriously the author of a great many falsehoods – but then he does warn us in his infamous history:



"We shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity."



– Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, Vol. 8, chapter 2.


Clement of Alexandria
was one of the earliest of the Church Fathers to draw a distinction between "mere human truth" and the higher truth of faith:


"Not all true things are the truth, nor should that truth which merely seems true according to human opinions be preferred to the true truth, that according to the faith."



– Clement (quoted by M. Smith, Clement of Alexandria, p446)


John Chrysostom
, 5th century theologian and erstwhile bishop of Constantinople, is another:

"Do you see the advantage of deceit? ...


For great is the value of deceit, provided it be not introduced with a mischievous intention. In fact action of this kind ought not to be called deceit, but rather a kind of good management, cleverness and skill, capable of finding out ways where resources fail, and making up for the defects of the mind ...


And often it is necessary to deceive, and to do the greatest benefits by means of this device, whereas he who has gone by a straight course has done great mischief to the person whom he has not deceived."



– Chrysostom, Treatise On The Priesthood, Book 1.



'Golden Mouth' John is notable for his extensive commentaries on the Bible which emphasized a literal understanding of the stories; the style popular at Alexandria until then was to acknowledge an allegorical meaning of the text.


Thus eminent ‘believers' added falsehood to the beliefs of later generations. ‘For the best of reasons' they ‘clarified' obscure points, conjured up characters to speak dialogue that could have been said, invented scenarios that could have happened, borrowed extensively from a wider culture. And this all before they became the custodians of power and had real reasons for lies, inventions and counterfeits. As we shall see, god's immutable laws became as flexible as putty.



The 5th and 6th centuries was the 'golden age' of Christian forgery. In a moment of shocking candour, the Manichean bishop (and opponent of Augustine) Faustus said:



"Many things have been inserted by our ancestors in the speeches of our Lord which, though put forth under his name, agree not with his faith; especially since – as already it has been often proved – these things were written not by Christ, nor [by] his apostles, but a long while after their assumption, by I know not what sort of half Jews, not even agreeing with themselves, who made up their tale out of reports and opinions merely, and yet, fathering the whole upon the names of the apostles of the Lord or on those who were supposed to follow the apostles, they maliciously pretended that they had written their lies and conceits according to them."


In the ferocious battle for adherents, the propagandists sought to outdo each other at every turn. One example: by the 5th century, four very different endings existed to Mark's gospel.

Codex Bobiensis ends Mark at verse 16:8, without any post-crucifixion appearances; it lacks both the 'short conclusion' (of Jesus sending followers to 'east and west') or the 'long conclusion' – the fabulous post-death apparitions, where Jesus promises his disciples that they will be immune to snake bites and poison.



Once the Church had grabbed mastery of much of Europe and the middle-east, its forgery engine went into overdrive.



'The Church forgery mill did not limit itself to mere writings but for centuries cranked out thousands of phony "relics" of its "Lord," "Apostles" and "Saints" … There were at least 26 'authentic' burial shrouds scattered throughout the abbeys of Europe, of which the Shroud of Turin is just one … At one point, a number of churches claimed the one foreskin of Jesus, and there were enough splinters of the "True Cross" that Calvin said the amount of wood would make "a full load for a good ship." '

– Acharya S, The Christ Conspiracy.




Ignatius Loyola
(1491-1556), the tireless zealot for papal authority – he was the founder of the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) – even wrote:


"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."


The Reformation may have swept away some abuses perpetrated by the priesthood but lying was not one of them. Martin Luther, in private correspondence, argued:



"What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church ... a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them."

– Martin Luther (Cited by his secretary, in a letter in Max Lenz, ed., Briefwechsel Landgraf Phillips des Grossmüthigen von Hessen mit Bucer, vol. I.
 

Deception



Thus by small steps a complex weave of fantasy is woven. As indeed the Church Fathers cheerfully admit:



"I will only mention the Apostle Paul. ... He, then, if anyone, ought to be calumniated; we should speak thus to him: ‘The proofs which you have used against the Jews and against other heretics bear a different meaning in their own contexts to that which they bear in your Epistles.



We see passages taken captive by your pen and pressed into service to win you a victory, which in volumes from which they are taken have no controversial bearing at all ... the line so often adopted by strong men in controversy

– of justifying the means by the result."


– St. Jerome, Epistle to Pammachus (xlviii, 13; N&PNF. vi, 72-73)




Was Saint Paul an unabashed liar?

From this verse in Romans it would appear so:



"For if the truth of God hath more abounded by my lie unto his glory, why yet am I also adjudged a sinner?"
– St. Paul, Romans 3.7.


However in context Paul is actually censuring other Christians who say "Let us do evil, that good may come" (that is, from God's judgement). But like Paul we can "take the passage captive" to make a point.
UMESHA ISHIWA AYA ZA KUKOPI na kubandika hapa?
 
A type of God who cares about sinn!,a god who care about what i Free ideas do!.Such a god who created us with his love but planing to burn us!.Hii aina gani ya mungu huyu,""Ninachojua mimi,kama kuna mungu basi sio huyo mnaemtambulisha nyie,mungu wa Waislamu,wakristo,ma-budha,Hindu na kadhalika.""
Kama kuna mungu hakuna anayemjua na hakuna anayeweza kumuelezea! Na hawezi kamwe kuwa na sifa hizi mnazompa kila siku hapa.Huyu mnaekesha kumuelezea humu.
 
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A type of God who cares about sinn!,a god who care about what i Free ideas do!.Such a god who created us with his love but planing to burn us!.Hii aina gani ya mungu huyu,""Ninachojua mimi,kama kuna mungu basi sio huyo mnaemtambulisha nyie,mungu wa Waislamu,wakristo,ma-budha,Hindu na kadhalika.""
Kama kuna mungu hakuna anayemjua na hakuna anayeweza kumuelezea! Na hawezi kamwe kuwa na sifa hizi mnazompa kila siku hapa.Huyu mnaekesha kumuelezea humu.
Nontheism Lies, Misconception, Misrepresenting BUSTED AND DEBUNKED

NON THEISTS COMMON ARGUMENT
By Kiranga
Kabla ya kuniambia mungu ananipenda, tafadhali thibitisha kwamba yupo.

HERE IS THE ANSWER FROM THE SAME PERSON
By Kiranga
Hujaelewa/ unakwepa swali, siulizi mungu wangu, nauliza mungu wako.


ANOTHER REPLY FROM A NON THEIST
By Free ideas
God is a complicated entity which requires a much more certificated explanation ..........
It can't be better than this.


ARGUMENT THAT NON THEISTS DON'T APPLY FAITH IN THEIR LIFE
By Kiranga

Sitaki kuamini, nataka kujua.

Sijashindwa kuthibitisha uwepo wangu, wewe ndiye umeshindwa kutaja framework na margin of error.

Uthibitisho wowote ambao hauna defined domain/ framework and margin of error ni ubatili.

HAPA SASA ANAONYESHA KUKUBALI IMANI KWA KUPINGA MADAI YAKE YA AWALI
By Kiranga
I can barely tolerate it for practical reasons linked to it's current inescapable nature as pointed above. That is, in order to eradicate it, one has to barely accommodate it, and converge towards it's gradual eradication methodically.

Experimentation, peer review and observation in a corrective and critically reflective culture (the opposite of faith) would eventually converge towards less belief and more knowledge.

That is how science advances.



HAPA ANASEMA KUWA YUPO ALLERGIC NA BELIEF
By Kiranga
I am allergic to belief.

I would rather know, thank you very much.
HUYOOOOO kesha anza kuonyesha tatizo katika UONGO WAKE WA ALLERGY

HAPA CHINI ANAFANYA FLIP FLOP NA KUKUBALI FAITH
By Kiranga
Inherently I do not have a problem with faith.

....

Here is where some choose to have total faith in an invisible god while others choose to have only a minimal amountn of faith based on.rationality and gradually converge towards knowledge.

NDUGU ZANGUNI,

Mimi sina la zaidi au la kuongeza, leo mmesha muelewa kuwa jamaa ni FLIP FLOP na SI MALI KITU, Ndio maana anatumia IGNORE LIST katika Debate.

Majibu mmesha yapata kuwa huyo Non Theist si Mali kitu
 
Hakuna kipya hapa!,Nitaujibu huu uzi kwa kifupi ka ifuatavyo.
1.Kwanza kuwepo kwa neno"IN GOD WE TRUST",katika noti ya marekani halisababishi mimi(Atheist )nisiitumie.Kwanza lazima ujue Atheism sio DINI,ukishajua hivyo hutauliz aswali kama hilo.

Hapa namaanisha kwamba mfano,mwislam niarufuku kwenda kanisani na kusali ama mkrito kwenda mskitin kusali.Sisi hatuko hivyo .Atheism IS THE COMMON SENSE.

2.Kutumika kwa bandiko lile halituondolei chohote maana sisi sio dini na hatuko kurumbana ama kugombea kitu(afuasi wala maslahi,We are the best thinkers).Na ndio maana 96% ya kila kitu duniani tunaendesha sisi(scientists ).

3.Ukitaka tusitumie dola ya marekani eti kwa sababj ina neno,"IN GOD WE TRUST",Basi mwambie Papa(baba yenu mtakatifu) atoe zile mike zote pale Vatican,na pia atumie majani ya migomba kuhifadhi Documents zake badala ya Laptops ambayo ni kazi ya scientists mnaowapinga.Kisha mwambie akitaka kwenda kwao Argentina ama popote katika safari ya kikazi asitumie ndege bali aende kwa miguu ama ngamia au mwanapunda.

Pia mwambie shekhe mkuu wa pale mecca ama medina,awe anatumia ngamia kwenda misri sio ndege!.
Mbona mnataka kukata tawi mlilokalia? Nyie wazima kweli?

Kuna siku niliwauliza swali kwba mnbie matatizoatatu ambayo dini imeyatatua mapaka sasa hakuna aliyenijibu zaidi ya blah blah!!,
 
Hakuna kipya hapa!,Nitaujibu huu uzi kwa kifupi ka ifuatavyo.
1.Kwanza kuwepo kwa neno"IN GOD WE TRUST",katika noti ya marekani halisababishi mimi(Atheist )nisiitumie.Kwanza lazima ujue Atheism sio DINI,ukishajua hivyo hutauliz aswali kama hilo.
Kuitumia kwako ni kukiri kuwa unakubali kuwa IN GOD WE TRUST na hauna jinsia bali kuendelea kukubali kufuata MFUMO KRISTO. Kwa taarifa yako vilevile UKRISTO SIO DINI. Sasa niulize Ukristo ni nini? Maaa wewe umejaa assumptions na huwezi kuzisaida kwa verifiables facts.


Hapa namaanisha kwamba mfano,mwislam niarufuku kwenda kanisani na kusali ama mkrito kwenda mskitin kusali.Sisi hatuko hivyo .Atheism IS THE COMMON SENSE.
Pole sana kwa kuendelea kujidanganya. Nyie mnaenda kanisani kama sie, labda wewe ni mpagani wa ki non theist. Hili hapa ni kanisa lenu. Sina haja ya kuandikaia mate wakati wino upo.


2.Kutumika kwa bandiko lile halituondolei chohote maana sisi sio dini na hatuko kurumbana ama kugombea kitu(afuasi wala maslahi,We are the best thinkers).Na ndio maana 96% ya kila kitu duniani tunaendesha sisi(scientists ).
You are not the best thinkers but sinkers. A thinker is a person who can support her/his belief. You can not support either the negative god or the fallacy that God does not exist. You are a BLIND FOLLOWER of a CULT that can not support her belief.


3.Ukitaka tusitumie dola ya marekani eti kwa sababj ina neno,"IN GOD WE TRUST",Basi mwambie Papa(baba yenu mtakatifu) atoe zile mike zote pale Vatican,na pia atumie majani ya migomba kuhifadhi Documents zake badala ya Laptops ambayo ni kazi ya scientists mnaowapinga.Kisha mwambie akitaka kwenda kwao Argentina ama popote katika safari ya kikazi asitumie ndege bali aende kwa miguu ama ngamia au mwanapunda.
Sio, usitake kutumia USD, nyie hamna chenu hapa duniani. Nyie mnatendelea kuwa TEGEMEZI katika kila jambo. Hata jina lenu ni TEGEMEZI kutoka kwetu, ZAIDI YA HAPO, Hamna ubavu wa kuanzisha fedha zenu.


Pia mwambie shekhe mkuu wa pale mecca ama medina,awe anatumia ngamia kwenda misri sio ndege!.
Mbona mnataka kukata tawi mlilokalia? Nyie wazima kweli?
Kwa taarifa yako, sio scientists wote ni WAPINGA MUNGU na GOD HATERS kama wewe. Ndio maana bado hujajibu swali. KWANINI MNATUMIA HELA ZETU ZILIZO ANDIKWA "IN GOD WE TRUST"? Why are you using our monies?

PATA List fupi kwa msaada: Famous Scientists Who Believed in God


Kuna siku niliwauliza swali kwba mnbie matatizoatatu ambayo dini imeyatatua mapaka sasa hakuna aliyenijibu zaidi ya blah blah!!,
Tatizo la kwanza ni MONEY. The money you are chasing everyday is from us. NDIO MAANA HAKUNA ATHEIST TAJIRI HAPA DUNIANI. Jiulize, kwanini nyie ni MASKINI TU?

Pole sana kwa kuwa BLIND FOLLOWER of a diabolical cult that can not support her BELIEF. Do you believe that God does not exist and you can support your BELIEF or you are SURE THERE IS NO GOD and you can give us impeccable evidence of your fiendish belief?

KWA TAARIFA YAKO:
Albert Einstein BELIEVED IN GOD
 
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Kwanza lazima ujue Atheism sio DINI,ukishajua hivyo hutauliz aswali kama hilo.
Let me teach and give you some food for thought.

1. Religion and or cult is a philosophy of life. So is non theism.

2. Religion and or cult is a means of understanding our existence. Non theism fits that bill.

3. Religions and or cults has its leaders, the preachers of its tenets. So does non theist (Nietzsche, Feuerbach, Lenin, Marx).

4. Religion and or cult has its faithful believers, who guard the orthodoxy of the faith. So does non theism.

You are a believer and part of a cult that can not support her notions of negative god, to wit.

NON THEISM is a DIABOLICAL RELIGION.
 
Kuitumia kwako ni kukiri kuwa unakubali kuwa IN GOD WE TRUST na hauna jinsia bali kuendelea kukubali kufuata MFUMO KRISTO.

Umeelewa nini niliposema Atheism sio dini?.Sisi hatuna haja ya kurumbana kwa vitu visivyo na maana.Je wakristu wote hawatumii bidhaa za Saudia ama dubai kwa sabau hawamtambui mtume Mohammad ?.Mbona palestina ni wateja wakubwa wa bidhaa toka Israel japo haziivi?.We use the common sense and struggling to make the earth a better placce to live!,You with your god have nothing to do with this Universal !okay!?
Kwa taarifa yako vilevile UKRISTO SIO DINI. Sasa niulize Ukristo ni nini? Maaa wewe umejaa assumptions na huwezi kuzisaida kwa verifiables facts.

Watakupiga mawe shaur yako!,Mpaka uulizwe?Hujiongezi hilo ndo tatizo lenu.
Pole sana kwa kuendelea kujidanganya. Nyie mnaenda kanisani kama sie, labda wewe ni mpagani wa ki non theist. Hili hapa ni kanisa lenu. Sina haja ya kuandikaia mate wakati wino upo.


Unajua maana ya dini?,Unajua maana ya kanisa ?

You are not the best thinkers but sinkers.

We are the best thinker !.Did the Mike used in Vatican come from Heaven?,Y do Pop's documents stored in Laptops instead of leaves and flat stones ?.Did Jesus say so?.Or did Laptops come from Heaven?

A thinker is a person who can support her/his belief. You can not support either the negative god or the fallacy that God does not exist. You are a BLIND FOLLOWER of a CULT that can not support her belief.

Did you ever supported your Arguments that God exists with even one evidence for his existence ?

Sio, usitake kutumia USD, nyie hamna chenu hapa duniani.

Are you sure?Prove!
Nyie mnatendelea kuwa TEGEMEZI katika kila jambo.

Atheism na Theism nani tegemezi.Dini imewahi kugundua nini cha maana?.Okay basi hata kisicho cha maana?
Hata jina lenu ni TEGEMEZI kutoka kwetu, ZAIDI YA HAPO, Hamna ubavu wa kuanzisha fedha zenu.

Hata tukianzisha fedha haitasaidia kama watu kama nyie (wenye uoga wa kuhoji na wasio jitambua)mtaendelea kuwepo!.


Kwa taarifa yako, sio scientists wote ni WAPINGA MUNGU na GOD HATERS kama wewe.

Mi sijasema scientists wote ni Atheist!,Na sio lazima wote wawe Atheist.
Ndio maana bado hujajibu swali. KWANINI MNATUMIA HELA ZETU ZILIZO ANDIKWA "IN GOD WE TRUST"? Why are you using our monies?

Swali lako litakuwa na maana iwapo Papa atasafiri kwa mwanakondoo kwenda kwao Argentina!,ama aandike mahubil yake kwenye majani ya migomba.Na pale mecca watumie vijinga vya moto kumulikia wakati wa swala!,na shekhe apande ngamia kwenda jordani.

Ninayo tangu mwaka jana lakini asante.
Tatizo la kwanza ni MONEY. The money you are chasing everyday is from us. NDIO MAANA HAKUNA ATHEIST TAJIRI HAPA DUNIANI. Jiulize, kwanini nyie ni MASKINI TU?

Sio kwel,Unatakiwa ujue hakuna tajiri anayeamini katika Mungu na kufuata yale asemayo,kama yupo ni mnafiki.Na hakuna Atheist maskini ila kuna Believers mabilini ambao ni maskini.

Pole sana kwa kuwa BLIND FOLLOWER of a diabolical cult that can not support her BELIEF. Do you believe that God does not exist and you can support your BELIEF or you are SURE THERE IS NO GOD and you can give us impeccable evidence of your fiendish belief?

Prove that god exists
KWA TAARIFA YAKO:
Albert Einstein BELIEVED IN GOD

Sio kosa aliplay part yake na sio lazima tumfuate.Kwani padri akibaka na wewe utabaka?.Si mnaambiwaga mfuate mafundisho yao sio matendo yao!?.
 
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Umeelewa nini niliposema Atheism sio dini?.Sisi hatuna haja ya kurumbana kwa vitu visivyo na maana.Je wakristu wote hawatumii bidhaa za Saudia ama dubai kwa sabau hawamtambui mtume Mohammad ?.Mbona palestina ni wateja wakubwa wa bidhaa toka Israel japo haziivi?.We use the common sense and struggling to make the earth a better placce to live!,You with your god have nothing to do with this Universal !okay!?
Let me teach and give you some food for thought.

1. Religion and or cult is a philosophy of life. So is non theism.

2. Religion and or cult is a means of understanding our existence. Non theism fits that bill.

3. Religions and or cults has its leaders, the preachers of its tenets. So does non theist (Nietzsche, Feuerbach, Lenin, Marx).

4. Religion and or cult has its faithful believers, who guard the orthodoxy of the faith. So does non theism.

You are a believer and part of a cult that can not support her notions of negative god, to wit.

NON THEISM is a DIABOLICAL RELIGION.


Watakupiga mawe shaur yako!,Mpaka uulizwe?Hujiongezi hilo ndo tatizo lenu.
It seems you got it. Christianity is not a religion, in contrast, non theism is a religion.


Unajua maana ya dini?,Unajua maana ya kanisa ?
read my first reply. Nimekufundisha maana ya dini yenu. Church means congregation. Ndio maana nilisema nyie mnaenda KANISANI.
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We are the best thinker !.Did the Mike used in Vatican come from Heaven?,Y do Pop's documents stored in Laptops instead of leaves and flat stones ?.Did Jesus say so?.Or did Laptops come from Heaven?
You are not. You FAILED o support your notions, ad infinitum. HUWA HAWAJISIFII.


Did you ever supported your Arguments that God exists with even one evidence for his existence ?
A MILLION TIMES

Are you sure?Prove!
You did already. Jikumbushe post zako, utao ulisha kiri wee na yule God Hater kuwa kuna Mungu na mnatumia IMANI. I don't have to remind you this.



Atheism na Theism nani tegemezi.Dini imewahi kugundua nini cha maana?.Okay basi hata kisicho cha maana?
NON THEISM NI TEGEMEZI. Bila ya SISI Nyie hampo. You know that. Sisi Mungu wetu Katengeneza Dunia na kila kitu, wewe umefanya kipi zaidi ya kutumia materials zetu na kugeuza creation. WE STARTED EVERYTHING, you are a follower.


Hata tukianzisha fedha haitasaidia kama watu kama nyie (wenye uoga wa kuhoji na wasio jitambua)mtaendelea kuwepo!.
SASA BILA YA Pesa unawez hata kuetengeneza Pombe ya Ulanzi mnayo ipenda nyie non theists?


Mi sijasema scientists wote ni Atheist!,Na sio lazima wote wawe Atheist.
KUMBO UNAANZA KUOGOPA NA KUKIRI. Naam we control the ball.

Swali lako litakuwa na maana iwapo Papa atasafiri kwa mwanakondoo kwenda kwao Argentina!,ama aandike mahubil yake kwenye majani ya migomba.Na pale mecca watumie vijinga vya moto kumulikia wakati wa swala!,na shekhe apande ngamia kwenda jordani.
NINA FAHAMU KUWA HUWEZI KUNIJIBU, WEWE SIO WA KWANZA KUKIMBIA MASWALI YANGU. Eti swali langu halina maana, unafahamu maana ya maana?


Ninayo tangu mwaka jana lakini asante.
You are most welcome

Sio kwel,Unatakiwa ujue hakuna tajiri anayeamini katika Mungu na kufuata yale asemayo,kama yupo ni mnafiki.Na hakuna Atheist maskini ila kuna Believers mabilini ambao ni maskini.
Acha uongo weye. Mtaje non theist ambaye ni tajiri.

Prove that god exists
JESUS IS GOD and does exist.

Sio kosa aliplay part yake na sio lazima tumfuate.Kwani padri akibaka na wewe utabaka?.Si mnaambiwaga mfuate mafundisho yao sio matendo yao!?.
Sasa wee unafuata mafundisho yenu kuwa wewe unandugu pale Mikumi "Monkeys"? Do you believe in that malarkey?

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Kujadili kitu na mtu/watu wenye Strong Feelings za kidini ni tabu tupu.Huwa nawambia ukitaka kujadili mambo haya basi weka Uislam na ukristo pembeni!

Mpaka sasa sijaona mtu anayefaa kujadili mada za kidini ambaye ana sifa zifuatazo.

1.Asiegemee upande wowote bali tuchambue dini kama dini na kama kuna mungu kwel!

2.Asiwe mtoa mifano ya uislam wala ukristo wa biblia ama Koran
3.Tutumie Facts kueleza uwepo wa mungu ama la!.

4.Akubali kushindwa na ujibu kwa makini kile anachoulizwa bili kukwepa kama mfanyavyo wengi humu

5.Asitumie maneno kama,eti,biblia inasema,mara koran imeandika sijui vitu gani

6.Nami ntakuwa tayar kufanya nae mjadala hata masaa sita.Nami sitatumia marejeo yoyote bali uelewa wangu.Hapo tujadili mwanzo mpaka mwisho jinsi mambo yalivyo.Yupo? Kama yupo basi karibu.

Wengi mmejaa jazba na matusi na kejeli ndo mana hata maswali yenu nayaweka kapuni maana hayana staha.Unauliza swali huku umetukana unategemea jibu?.
 
Free ideas unafahamu biblical codes??
Ishmael Eiyer

The Bible codes is a purported set of secret messages encoded within the Bible text of the . This hidden code has been described as a method by which specific letters from the text can be selected to reveal an otherwise obscured message.
 
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The Bible codes is a purported set of secret messages encoded within the Bible text of the . This hidden code has been described as a method by which specific letters from the text can be selected to reveal an otherwise obscured message.

its shows what science is
 
Naona amekujibu kwa kutumia uoga kama ilivyo kawaida yao hawa wafuasi wa darwin.
mkuu Ishmael lets see the deep secrects of biblical codes ,isaack newton spend half of his life cracking the codes when ,at his room his record keeper found papers dealing with codes in differnt bible books,genesis,exodus,numbers ,the biblical codes are codes beyond science and system,they are beyond nature they even say who dies when and how??very shocking
 
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mkuu Ishmael lets see the deep secrects of biblical codes ,isaack newton spend half of his life cracking the codes when ,at his room his record keeper found papers dealing with codes in differnt bible books,genesis,exodus,numbers ,the biblical codes are codes beyond science and system,they are beyond nature they even say who dies when and how??very shocking
Hitler and Einstein Codes Were Surprising

"What began to change my mind? It was things like the eight codes about Hitler that appear in the Old Testament passage where Moses prophesies that in the latter days a nation will rise up and torture and slaughter Jews on a mass scale."

"It was also a very tight cluster of five codes about Einstein that caught my attention." These are codes that were put through his own rigorous scientific evaluation. Obviously, he was as surprised as anyone by the results.

Bible Code Digest.com - Purpose of Bible Code Digest
 

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