Since Tanzanians dont want EAC, what do you guys think about this guys idea?

[LightYagami]

I Propose
....the establishment of a Horn Of African union/alliance be it political, militarily and economical for all the member States in that region to develop and advance our countries and people. In Europe, France, Germany and Britain fought hundreds of years and were sworn enemies during that period. Post Second World War, Western Europe (with the threats of Communism) had a hard look at itself and decided that unity (E.U & NATO) rather than war would benefit and deliver them permanent security, progress and wealth to their States and citizens. Today Europe is wealthier and more secure and they have absorbed millions of refugees and more desire to legally and illegally migrate to them while risking their lives. Why can't we learn a lesson from them?

Kenya, Somalia/Somaliland, Jibouti, Eritrea and Ethiopia spend billions of $$ of their meagre budgets on arms intended to be used on one another. The overwhelming majority of the people in these countries live below the poverty line, they cant access proper schooling, basic health services, electricity, even drinking water and child mortality rates are very high. Unemployment is rife where most of the youth in these countries dream of escaping poverty and reaching the shores of the Western world to live better lives. They want to reach the same western countries who swallowed their pride and decided to bury the rivalry with their adversaries and instead implement friendships and alliances. That is the foundation of their current status that attracts our citizenry to escape to. Why can't we emulate them and cease the militaristic rivalries for the benefit of our countries and people? Should we always be in perpetual wars, live in abject poverty and expect foreign aid?

Discuss
THIS IS NOT MY IDEA, NIMETOA ANOTHER FORUM

 

[maringeni]

Aliyekutuma mwambie tuko kazini hatuna muda wa kijinga.
Potezea kiaina weweee !!!

 

[nomasana]

Aliyekutuma mwambie tuko kazini hatuna muda wa kijinga.
Potezea kiaina weweee !!!

Oh dear.....brain fart alert

 

[Cicero]

I Propose
....the establishment of a Horn Of African union/alliance be it political, militarily and economical for all the member States in that region to develop and advance our countries and people. In Europe, France, Germany and Britain fought hundreds of years and were sworn enemies during that period. Post Second World War, Western Europe (with the threats of Communism) had a hard look at itself and decided that unity (E.U & NATO) rather than war would benefit and deliver them permanent security, progress and wealth to their States and citizens. Today Europe is wealthier and more secure and they have absorbed millions of refugees and more desire to legally and illegally migrate to them while risking their lives. Why can't we learn a lesson from them?

Kenya, Somalia/Somaliland, Jibouti, Eritrea and Ethiopia spend billions of $$ of their meagre budgets on arms intended to be used on one another. The overwhelming majority of the people in these countries live below the poverty line, they cant access proper schooling, basic health services, electricity, even drinking water and child mortality rates are very high. Unemployment is rife where most of the youth in these countries dream of escaping poverty and reaching the shores of the Western world to live better lives. They want to reach the same western countries who swallowed their pride and decided to bury the rivalry with their adversaries and instead implement friendships and alliances. That is the foundation of their current status that attracts our citizenry to escape to. Why can't we emulate them and cease the militaristic rivalries for the benefit of our countries and people? Should we always be in perpetual wars, live in abject poverty and expect foreign aid?

Discuss
THIS IS NOT MY IDEA, NIMETOA ANOTHER FORUM

I have always thought a restructuring of the region is long overdue.
East Africa has two almost distinct socio-cultural regions within it; the horn of Africa (Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti) and the Great Lakes (Burundi, Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, South Sudan and Eastern DRC).
Sasa wewe LightYagami chagua mwenyewe which of those two Kenya best fits with.
My pick would be the Great Lakes. In simple terms, you guys are stuck with us. Hao horn of Africa waunde kitu chao sisi tuunde cha kwetu.
Watanzania wanautaka muungano wa EAC, ila uwe ni wenye tija kwao. EAC ya sasa haina tija kwa watanzania walio wengi unless waanze kushughulikia maswala ya elimu.

 

[Kafrican]

We don't have much of a cultural relation with the horn, it's difficult to mix... But business-wise hatuna shida.....
A

 

[Cicero]

We don't have much of a cultural relation with the horn, it's difficult to mix... But business-wise hatuna shida.....
A

Ni wabaguzi hatari em nenda Ethiopia ujaribu kutafuta mwanamke wa kumuoa.
Sawa atakubali shughuli kwa ukoo kukukubali wewe mbantu.

 

[Kafrican]

Anyway, tayari tuna na muungano kama huo kupitua IGAD... I actually like Igad very much.. A couple of countries that you would never think they will sit on the same table, working together.... the difference between igad and other regional bodies is that Igad doesn't have unachievable ambitions, I was reading about theire vision and was really impressed, They want to have things like a joint medical industry where advanced research is done, joint satelite, to establish an aviation industry... Peace and prosperity through establishing joint weather monitoring and geological research center,protecting environment and peace....Things like that, real tangible and achievable things that don't bring and complication..

 

[MK254]

I would go with Great lakes any day, we share heritage and cultural background. Great lakes ni shamba kubwa la bibi wengi wetu huwa tunakatiza na kuchuma, sijawahi kuwaza kwenda Ethiopia au huko Eritrea japo wameanza kufunguka kibiashara.

 

[Konda wa bodaboda]

I have always thought a restructuring of the region is long overdue.
East Africa has two almost distinct socio-cultural regions within it; the horn of Africa (Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti) and the Great Lakes (Burundi, Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, South Sudan and Eastern DRC).
Sasa wewe LightYagami chagua mwenyewe which of those two Kenya best fits with.
My pick would be the Great Lakes. In simple terms, you guys are stuck with us. Hao horn of Africa waunde kitu chao sisi tuunde cha kwetu.
Watanzania wanautaka muungano wa EAC, ila uwe ni wenye tija kwao. EAC ya sasa haina tija kwa watanzania walio wengi unless waanze kushughulikia maswala ya elimu.

Ni lini watanzania walisema wanalitaka hilo shirikisho? maana hata akilini mwa wengi halipo. Ninyi nyote mnaopigia debe EAC sio watanzania. Mnadhani Tanzania ndio suluhisho la kubanana huko nchini mwenu! Hakuna nchi inayoweza kukubali huo ubwege kila mtu akae nchini kwake.

 

[Cicero]

Ni lini watanzania walisema wanalitaka hilo shirikisho? maana hata akilini mwa wengi halipo. Ninyi nyote mnaopigia debe EAC sio watanzania. Mnadhani Tanzania ndio suluhisho la kubanana huko nchini mwenu! Hakuna nchi inayoweza kukubali huo ubwege kila mtu akae nchini kwake.

Shirikisho maanake sio kuunda nchi moja. Ni kuwa na nchi tofauti zinazoshirikiana kwenye baadhi ya mambo. Kwa mfano; ulinzi na usalama, mambo ya nje, biashara ya kimataifa na kadhalika. Inawezekana kabisa kuwa na Shirikisho lakini kila mtu akatakiwa kubaki upande wake wa mpaka. Mataifa mengi tu mbona yako hivyo.
Mi nahisi watu wakielewa mfumo wa serikali shirikishi unavoendeshwa watu wataunga mkono tu.
Kama Zitto alivosema bungeni, Tanzania tunatakiwa tuwe viongozi, tuendeshe Jumuiya ya EAC na sio kukaa nyuma na kusubiri kuendeshwa. We should show leadership!

 

[Konda wa bodaboda]

Shirikisho maanake sio kuunda nchi moja. Ni kuwa na nchi tofauti zinazoshirikiana kwenye baadhi ya mambo. Kwa mfano; ulinzi na usalama, mambo ya nje, biashara ya kimataifa na kadhalika. Inawezekana kabisa kuwa na Shirikisho lakini kila mtu akatakiwa kubaki upande wake wa mpaka. Mataifa mengi tu mbona yako hivyo.
Mi nahisi watu wakielewa mfumo wa serikali shirikishi unavoendeshwa watu wataunga mkono tu.
Kama Zitto alivosema bungeni, Tanzania tunatakiwa tuwe viongozi, tuendeshe Jumuiya ya EAC na sio kukaa nyuma na kusubiri kuendeshwa. We should show leadership!

Hujajibu swali, ni lini waTanzania walisema wanalitaka hilo shirikisho?

 

[Kambalanick]

We have sadc, ecowas, comesa, eac, igad on the same continent yet we are faced with the same issues as a continent...I know kuna AU, but really? During the AU chairman elections these divisions were so evident, even in sports and resource distribution, it was the West and the North who were benefitting from the previous CAF regime, sasa wee choe an eastern guy. Aren't we tired...We are in the same continent to this date still being divided like they did a 100 years ago. Have one common market for Africa... integrated transport systems, smooth trade...the kind of bargaining power we will have...wacha tu.

 

[Sammuel999]

This may be the case tunaskizana sana na northerners

 

[Sammuel999]

We don't have much of a cultural relation with the horn, it's difficult to mix... But business-wise hatuna shida.....
A

Half of Kenya is Cushitic Half is Bantu Landwise

 

[Lewis254]

Half of Kenya is Cushitic Half is Bantu Landwise

70% of Kenyans are Bantus
Landwise: Bantus cover 30%

 

[Lewis254]

Capitalists v/s Socialists
one is vigorous (business-wise) and the other is a pussy.
one is more focussed and knows what he wants when he wants when he sees the opportunity whereas the other one is a lazy bunny.
mmoja ni Simba anayeenda kuwinda malishoni na mwengine ni Kinda (mtoto wa ndege) kazi kulala na kupanua mdomo na kungojea chakula... awekewe mpaka mdomoni.
one is highly developed and the one ia LEAST developed country.
The Least developed country is going to Suffer.

 

[Hoshea]

Capitalists v/s Socialists
one is vigorous (business-wise) and the other is a pussy.
one is more focussed and knows what he wants when he wants when he sees the opportunity whereas the other one is a lazy bunny.
mmoja ni Simba anayeenda kuwinda malishoni na mwengine ni Kinda (mtoto wa ndege) kazi kulala na kupanua mdomo na kungojea chakula... awekewe mpaka mdomoni.
one is highly developed and the one ia LEAST developed country.
The Least developed country is going to Suffer.

The pussy is the strongest, gave birth to the business. Pussy Socialist Chinese, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam etc. U know what they're doin/ did to your capitalist father.

 

[Lewis254]

This...

V/s
This

Bring it on.

 

[Lewis254]

The pussy is the strongest, gave birth to the business. Pussy Socialist Chinese, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam etc. U know what they're doin/ did to your capitalist father.

Good.
But you know what the Madingo does to it when the time is up for destruction... right?

 

[Mwanzi1]

Capitalists v/s Socialists
one is vigorous (business-wise) and the other is a pussy.
one is more focussed and knows what he wants when he wants when he sees the opportunity whereas the other one is a lazy bunny.
mmoja ni Simba anayeenda kuwinda malishoni na mwengine ni Kinda (mtoto wa ndege) kazi kulala na kupanua mdomo na kungojea chakula... awekewe mpaka mdomoni.
one is highly developed and the one ia LEAST developed country.
The Least developed country is going to Suffer.

Hapa unaongelea Ethiopia na China? Maana nchi zote hizi ni socialist to the core.