Should Tanzania welcome South Sudan (another CoW) into the EAC?

[msemakweli]

You haven't responded my question about who owns Tanzania.

The people of Tanzania.
Our land is under the State's sole ownership and held in trust by the President. Our land (the primary resource of any economy) is not in the hands of a few foreigners and some bigwigs. Unlike your Lord Delamere's and Uhuru Kenyatta's.
Had it not been for President Mkapa's privatisation initiatives, most of Tanzania's industries would still be under public ownership. Our economy is just now opening up to foreigners!

 

[NairobiWalker]

The people of Tanzania.
Our land is under the State's sole ownership and held in trust by the President. Our land (the primary resource of any economy) is not in the hands of a few foreigners and some bigwigs. Unlike your Lord Delamere's and Uhuru Kenyatta's.
Had it not been for President Mkapa's privatisation initiatives, most of Tanzania's industries would still be under public ownership. Our economy is just now opening up to foreigners!

Please list your biggest farms and their owners, your biggest industries and their owners and your most profitable companies and their owners and I do the same for Kenya and we'll see who owns more of their country. Meanwhile drink your brookside milk that you shopped from Nakumatt or Shoprite while you read a Mwananchi newspaper in peace. Meanwhile I would also love to see those industries supposedly owned by the Tanzanian public.

 

[MK254]

Please list your biggest farms and their owners, your biggest industries and their owners and your most profitable companies and their owners and I do the same for Kenya and we'll see who owns more of their country. Meanwhile drink your brookside milk that you shopped from Nakumatt or Shoprite while you read a Mwananchi newspaper in peace. Meanwhile I would also love to see those industries supposedly owned by the Tanzanian public.

Aki ya nani NairobiWalker you're such a pain.

 

[NairobiWalker]

................and just to set some matters straight. The delamere's own semi arid land in Naivasha in Nakuru county. The land would simply be an open plain with a few zebras roaming it if Delamere didn't build all those flower greenhouses in it. Furthermore Delamere is just as Kenyan as Bakhresa, Rostam Aziz and Mohamed Dewji (The Indians who own most of what can be said to be owned by a Tanzanian in Tanzania and the three richest men in Tanzania) are Tanzanian. msemakweli

 

[msemakweli]

................and just to set some matters straight. The delamere's own semi arid land in Naivasha in Nakuru county. The land would simply be an open plain with a few zebras roaming it if Delamere didn't build all those flower greenhouses in it. Furthermore Delamere is just as Kenyan as Bakhresa, Rostam Aziz and Mohamed Dewji (The Indians who own most of what can be said to be owned by a Tanzanian in Tanzania and the three richest men in Tanzania) are Tanzanian. msemakweli

Oh really? How about that large pine-apple farm in Thika? You could drive through for hours, fall asleep, wake up and you are still in one man's farm!
Also, i don't take brookside milk (i drink ASAS or AZAM),
there is no shoprite in Tanzania (after they failed to meet the local content demands). There are only three nakumatt stores owned by that indian and that have been incurring losses ever since!
And yes i read mwananchi which is 40% owned by the AGA KHAN's Nation Media Group.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Oh really? How about that large pine-apple farm in Thika? You could drive through for hours, fall asleep, wake up and you are still in one man's farm!
Also, i don't take brookside milk (i drink ASAS or AZAM),
there is no shoprite in Tanzania (after they failed to meet the local content demands). There are only three nakumatt stores owned by that indian and that have been incurring losses ever since!
And yes i read mwananchi which is 40% owned by the AGA KHAN's Nation Media Group.

NMG owned 40% (it's actually less than 30% but let me make you happy) by an Indian 60% by Kenyans. Nakumatt 40% by Kenyan Indians 60% by Black Kenyans while Azam is owned 100% by an Indian and you're here lecturing Kenyans on how they're owned. lol.
Oh, and thank you for reminding me, there's no Shoprite in Tz, it was acquired by Nakumatt.

PS.....the Delmonte pineapple farm in Thika is still in an arid area where nobody would have bothered farming too.

.....and Delamere is not even a half as rich as any of the three Indians I listed before (Aziz, Bakhresa and Dewji) yet you're here yapping on how he owns Kenya. Nyani haoni kundule.

 

[msemakweli]

NMG owned 40% (it's actually less than 30% but let me make you happy) by an Indian 60% by Kenyans. Nakumatt 40% by Kenyan Indians 60% by Black Kenyans while Azam is owned 100% by an Indian and you're here lecturing Kenyans on how they're owned. lol.
Oh, and thank you for reminding me, there's no Shoprite in Tz, it was acquired by Nakumatt.

PS.....the Delmonte pineapple farm in Thika is still in an arid area where nobody would have bothered farming too.

.....and Delamere is not even a half as rich as any of the three Indians I listed before (Aziz, Bakhresa and Dewji) yet you're here yapping on how he owns Kenya. Nyani haoni kundule.

Nakumatt is owned by the INDIAN shah family.
And NMG is over 40% owned by the Aga Khan. Moreover, last I checked the NMG has cross listed in UG as well. Get over yourself black Kenyans are dirt poor!

 

[NairobiWalker]

Nakumatt is owned by the INDIAN shah family.
And NMG is over 40% owned by the Aga Khan. Moreover, last I checked the NMG has cross listed in UG as well. Get over yourself black Kenyans are dirt poor!

I'm still waiting for the list of Tanzanian companies supposedly owned by Tanzanians. The razor cuts both ways you know. About Nakumatt let me give you a clue - the single largest shareholder is Harun Mwau from Makueni county - he owns 35% of Nakumatt holdings.

 

[Smatta]

Preach.

 

[msemakweli]

I'm still waiting for the list of Tanzanian companies supposedly owned by Tanzanians. The razor cuts both ways you know. About Nakumatt let me give you a clue - the single largest shareholder is Harun Mwau from Makueni county - he owns 35% of Nakumatt holdings.

Harun Mwau and his in-leagues only help Nakumatt evade tax and do Nakumatt's dirty work. But the real owners of Nakumatt are known. Stop talking gossip and bring some concrete evidence!

 

[NairobiWalker]

Harun Mwau and his in-leagues only help Nakumatt evade tax and do Nakumatt's dirty work. But the real owners of Nakumatt are known. Stop talking gossip and bring some concrete evidence!

True, even the 60% of Safaricom (the largest company in East and Central Africa) owned by the GoK and Kenyans is just for tax evasion. Thank you.

I am waiting for the top Tanzanian companies supposedly owned by Tanzanians.