Serikali iyashughulikie madai ya Waislamu

[JokaKuu]

alsaidy,

..tatizo haliko ktk Uislamu au Ukristo.

..tatizo ni vichwa maji wanaojitambulisha kama Waislamu na Wakristo.

..suluhisho la matatizo yetu ni sote kukubali kwamba tunaunganishwa na UTANZANIA wetu. kwa msingi huo masuala ya kiimani yabakie kuwa binafsi.

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Yes that is true but have you ask yourself under what circumstances ALLAH has called the believers to join in the war?

At those time there was agreement between believers and non believers. Some of those Quar'anic verses you are trying to point out is when agreement is breached by non believers is when they are told to fight.

Katika Uislamu kupigania haki yako ni kitu cha msingi kabisa na hata dini ya Uislamu umesisitiza sana katika kupigania haki yako!!

It is
important to note that the problem
is not bad people, but bad ideology.

There are very few
verses of tolerance and peace to
abrogate or even balance out the
many that call for nonbelievers to
be fought and subdued until they
either accept humiliation, convert to
Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's
own martial legacy - and that of his
companions - along with the
remarkable stress on violence found
in the Quran have produced a trail
of blood and tears across world
history.

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

alsaidy,

..tatizo haliko ktk Uislamu au Ukristo.

..tatizo ni vichwa maji wanaojitambulisha kama Waislamu na Wakristo.

..suluhisho la matatizo yetu ni sote kukubali kwamba tunaunganishwa na UTANZANIA wetu. kwa msingi huo masuala ya kiimani yabakie kuwa binafsi.

Jokakuu problem is ideology not people. Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is
prescribed for you, and ye dislike
it. But it is possible that ye dislike a
thing which is good for you, and that
ye love a thing which is bad for you.
But Allah knoweth, and ye know
not." Not only does this verse
establish that violence can be
virtuous, but it also contradicts the
myth that fighting is intended only
in self-defense, since the audience
was obviously not under attack at
the time. From the Hadith, we
know that this verse was narrated at
a time that Muhammad was actually
trying to motivate his people into
raiding merchant caravans for loot.

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who
reject faith, I will punish them with
terrible agony in this world and in
the Hereafter, nor will they have
anyone to help."

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast
terror into the hearts of the
Unbelievers, for that they joined
companions with Allah, for which He
had sent no authority". This speaks
directly of polytheists, yet it also
includes Christians, since they
believe in the Trinity (ie. what
Muhammad incorrectly believed to
be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

[alsaidy]

Yes that is true but have you ask yourself under what circumstances ALLAH has called the believers to join in the war?

At those time there was agreement between believers and non believers. Some of those Quar'anic verses you are trying to point out is when agreement is breached by non believers is when they are told to fight.

Katika Uislamu kupigania haki yako ni kitu cha msingi kabisa na hata dini ya Uislamu umesisitiza sana katika kupigania haki yako!!

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the
way of Allah who sell the life of this
world for the other. Whoso fighteth
in the way of Allah, be he slain or be
he victorious, on him We shall
bestow a vast reward." The martyrs
of Islam are unlike the early
Christians, led meekly to the
slaughter. These Muslims are killed
in battle, as they attempt to inflict
death and destruction for the cause
of Allah. Here is the theological
basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Yes that is true but have you ask yourself under what circumstances ALLAH has called the believers to join in the war?

At those time there was agreement between believers and non believers. Some of those Quar'anic verses you are trying to point out is when agreement is breached by non believers is when they are told to fight.

Katika Uislamu kupigania haki yako ni kitu cha msingi kabisa na hata dini ya Uislamu umesisitiza sana katika kupigania haki yako!!

the problem
is not bad people, but bad ideology.
There are very few
verses of tolerance and peace to
abrogate or even balance out the
many that call for nonbelievers to
be fought and subdued until they
either accept humiliation, convert to
Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's
own martial legacy - and that of his
companions - along with the
remarkable stress on violence found
in the Quran have produced a trail
of blood and tears across world
history.

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that
ye should reject Faith, as they do,
and thus be on the same footing (as
they): But take not friends from their
ranks until they flee in the way of
Allah (From what is forbidden). But
if they turn renegades, seize them
and slay them wherever ye find
them; and (in any case) take no
friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those
believers who sit (at home) and
receive no hurt, and those who strive
and fight in the cause of Allah with
their goods and their persons. Allah
hath granted a grade higher to those
who strive and fight with their goods
and persons than to those who sit
(at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath
Allah promised good: But those who
strive and fight Hath He
distinguished above those who sit (at
home) by a special reward,-" This
passage criticizes "peaceful"
Muslims who do not join in the
violence, letting them know that
they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.
It also demolishes the modern myth
that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war
in the Quran, but rather a spiritual
struggle. Not only is the Arabic
word used in this passage, but it is
clearly not referring to anything
spiritual, since the physically
disabled are given exemption. (The
Hadith reveals the context of the
passage to be in response to a blind
man's protest that he is unable to
engage in Jihad and this is reflected
in other translations of the verse).

 

[promi demana]

Yes that is true but have you ask yourself under what circumstances ALLAH has called the believers to join in the war?

At those time there was agreement between believers and non believers. Some of those Quar'anic verses you are trying to point out is when agreement is breached by non believers is when they are told to fight.

Katika Uislamu kupigania haki yako ni kitu cha msingi kabisa na hata dini ya Uislamu umesisitiza sana katika kupigania haki yako!!

Mkuu ni haki ipi mnayodai?

 

[Sukula]

hv hawa waislam kwani wanadai nini,maana tangu wameanza kuandama ht sielewi wanachokitaka.

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of
those who wage war against Allah
and His messenger and strive to
make mischief in the land is only
this, that they should be murdered or
crucified or their hands and their
feet should be cut off on opposite
sides or they should be imprisoned;
this shall be as a disgrace for them
in this world, and in the hereafter
they shall have a grievous
chastisement"

 

[alsaidy]

the proble is not bad people, but bad ideology. There are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history........

Not bad ideology but misinterpretation. Qur'an haitafsiriwa kama unavyofasiri wewe mkuu. Qur'an imefasiriwa katika lugha mbalimbali duniani lakini hakuna iliyofasiriwa kwa ufasaha 100%. Na katika Qur'an kila aya ina sababu ya kushuka kwake.

Naangalia possibility ya kukuweka sababu za kushuka baadhi ya hizo aya ulizonukuu...

 

[Head teacher]

Madai gani. Kuchoma moto kanisa?

 

[alsaidy]

verses za kuhimiza violence toka kwenye Quran zipo nyingi sana. Zote msingi wake ni kutetea dini ya Allah wao. Sasa utetezi wa dini ya Allah wa Waislam kwa Tanzania ndio wameuita 'madai ya haki za waislam' ndio maana kwa mtu anayefikiria sawasawa ataona kudai ijumaa iwe siku ya mapumziko ni dai la kipuuzi lakini kwa Allah laweza kuwa dai la maana kuliko jambo lolote. Ndio maana wengi wanaitilia mashaka dini ya kiislam

Na wengi wameslimu kwa kuona Uislamu ni dini ya Kweli.....

 

[alsaidy]

 

[Mzito Kabwela]

Na wengi wameslimu kwa kuona Uislamu ni dini ya Kweli.....

Kwangu mimi sioni ukweli kwenye uislam mkuu

 

[Straight corner]

Ninali ignore swali la kwanza na kwenda kwenye la pili moja kwa moja.

Kwanza anayebebe responsibilfity ya kuua uchumi hapa atakuwa si Muislamu bali ni serikali kushindwa kwake kuyatatua matatizo rya Waislamu.
Pili, kama itatokea Waislamu kuisimamisha nchi kiuchumi itakuwa ni fursa nzuri ya kuanza upya ambayo ni advantage kwa Waislamu.

Nikutahadharishe tu kwamba leo hii Waafrika wote wakihamishiwa Marekani na Wamarekani wakahamishiwa Afrika, tutazidiwa vilevile! Chamsingi hapa ni Waislam mmejiandaa vipi (strategically) kuwashinda au kulingana na hao wakristo punde muujiza huo utakapotokea.

 

[alsaidy]

Kwangu mimi sioni ukweli kwenye uislam mkuu

Sio kitu cha kushangaza mkuu. Watu waliopita waliletewa mitume na kuonyeshwa kila dalili kuwa yeye ni mjumbe na kazi yake ilikuwa kufikisha ujumbe. Juu na hayo yote hawakuamini.

Sio wote watakaopata uzima wa milele.....