Rais Magufuli alikataa dili la Kikwete na Mchina ya $7.6 Bilioni kujenga SGR yote na leo hii Dar - Makutopora tumetumia zaidi ya $ 2 Bilioni. Ikoje?

Bome-e said:
Unataka watu wafanyeje wasipojadili yanayotokea katika nchi yao?Akili zenu huwa mnaziazima wapi?
Elimu,Elimu,Elimu!
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Sisi ndio tutalipa deni hili , mijitu ya ajabu ajabu inasema ooh hamna haki ya kujadili . Siku siyo nyingi tunawachapa red card kwa njia yeyote ile.
 
Designing ya Wachina ni tofauti kabisa na hili tatakata linalojengwa na Yapi Merkezi. Wapi umewahi ona ule mdaraja kutoka station hadi Buguruni? Unakwepa vibarabara vingapi? Unaokoa nini? Ukienda huko sehemu zingine ni migharama isiyo na tija kabisa. Ule mradi kukamilika kwa chini ya trilioni 9 na mimi naweka SGR ya kienyesi changu kutoka station hadi Mwanza!
 
livafan said:
Yawezekana huo mkatabana ulikuwa na “” MASHARITI NA VIGEZO KUZINGATIWA”” baada ya ujenzi kuisha.
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Tutajuaje?Tuamini mkataba upi ni bora zaidi?Ndio shida ya kufichwa mambo haya na serikali!Issue inakuja kujulikana tushaingia chaka tunabaki kupiga kelele tu!
 
Ukute hapo umesoma HKL, lakini unathubutu kukosoa mambo ya Designs za civil engineering.
G Sam said:
Designing ya Wachina ni tofauti kabisa na hili tatakata linalojengwa na Yapi Merkezi. Wapi umewahi ona ule mdaraja kutoka station hadi Buguruni? Unakwepa vibarabara vingapi? Unaokoa nini? Ukienda huko sehemu zingine ni migharama isiyo na tija kabisa. Ule mradi kukamilika kwa chini ya trilioni 9 na mimi naweka SGR ya kienyesi changu kutoka station hadi Mwanza!
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Synthesizer said:
Wakati Magufuli anaingia madarakani alikuta Kikwete ametengeneza makubaliano na Wachina ya Kujenga SGR yote Dar hadi hadi Kigoma, na pia kutoka Uvinza kwenda mgodi wa Musongati wa Burundi na kufika Kaliua. Ilikua iende na Mwanza nadhani, wa mkopo wa $7.6 Bilioni kupitia benki ya China na Kampuni ya Ujenzi ya Reli za serikali ya China. Magufuli aliitupia hii dili nje kwa madai kuwa ilikuwa na harufu ya ufisadi na kwamba tutajenga SGR kwa fedha zetu za ndani.

Sasa leo hii, zaidi ya fedha ambazo tayari tumezamisha kwenye SGR kipande cha Dar hadi Dodoma tu, tumekopa tena $ 1.46 Bilioni ili kukamilisha ujenzi wa SGR toka Dar hadi Makutopola. Hii inamaanisha kwamba hadi sasa kuanzia Dar hadi Makutopola gharama inaweza kufikia zaidi ya $3 Bilioni, ambayo ni karibu nusu (50%) ya mkataba ambao Kikwete na Wachina walikuwa watie sahihi kama gharama ya kujenga SGR yote, na Raisi Magufuli akatuaminisha Watanzania kwamba ule mkataba ulikuwa na harufu ya ufisadi.

Sasa wana JF mie nilishasema kuna mambo huwa simuelewi Magufuli. Kama kuna anaelewa juu ya hili basi naomba anifafanulie.

Usikute Kikwete na Wachina kwa sasa hivi wanacheka kweli kweli, na wanamcheka nani hilo halihitaji PhD kwa wewe kuelewa.
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Shida ya miradi mingi ya wachina initial cost sio final cost. Kujenga bombs la gas la kuja Kinyerezi ni moja ya mifano hiyo.
Wachina nao ni magumashi sana
 
mkiluvya said:
una uhakika na maandiko yako mkuu kwamba kutoka dar hadi kigoma utumie $7.6 Bilioni au chuki tu
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Wewe una ukakika kwamba sio $7.6 Bilioni au ni kwamba kila tukisema jambo lisilo sawa unaona tunataka kuiumbua serikali kwa uongo? Unapenda vibaya wewe!

Soma hapa chini utaelewa pia kwa nini mnamchukia sana Kabendera kwa kuwaambia ukweli

Turkey, China caught up in SGR tender confusion

By ERICK KABENDERA
A dispute over the tender for the construction of the $7.6 billion standard gauge railway linking Dar es salaam to neighbouring countries has provided a tense backdrop to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s visit to Tanzania on January 22-23.

Although EXIM Bank of China has signed an agreement with Tanzania to finance the 1,259km line, a Turkish firm is believed to be the front-runner to clinch the contract.
EXIM tends to tie its financing to Chinese contractors getting the job.

Chinese Foreign Minister Wangi Yi visited Tanzania two weeks ago to canvass for the tender, but government officials were said to have offered no guarantees.

Last year, Chinese companies had won the tender to build the railway before the process was cancelled over irregularities and fresh bids invited. Some government officials, however, fear a decision that goes against Beijing could force them back to the drawing board on the project’s financing should Exim Bank withdraw.

The Chinese ambassador to Tanzania Dr Lv Youqing recently met with CCM Secretary-General, Abdulrahman Kinana, but details of their discussions were not made public.

Tanzania had in May 2015 awarded the tender to build the railway to a consortium of Chinese railway companies led by China Railway Materials. On ascending to power last year, President Magufuli terminated the contract despite the consortium having already built five kilometres of the line.

Subsequently, a former managing director of Reli Assets Holding Company was arraigned in court over irregular award of the tender.

The original design ran from Dar es Salaam to Kigoma, branching off to Uvinza for the Musongati nickel mine in Burundi and extend to Kaliua. The plan was to use Burundi as a logistic hub for supplying goods into DR Congo and Rwanda.
 
Sitaki kupingana na mtoa maada, japo Kuna video inamuonesha JK Mrisho akihojiwa kuhusiana na Mwenendo mzima wa uongozi wa raisi JPM, Pia akatolea ufafanuzi zaidi juu ya Mradi wa SGR.

Katika maelezo yake yeye alisema "katika uongozi wangu tulipanga tujenge reli ya kisasa ya diesel yaan SGR kama ile ya Kenya, ila namsifu Magufuli kwa kulifanyia utekelezaji wazo letu (Fourth Government) tena kwa kuifanya iwe ya ukisasa zaidi na yenye ufanisi mkubwa kuliko tuliyokua tumepanga siye".

Kwa maelezo hayo unaona jinsi gani JPM kaja na Mradi ule ule ila kivingine. Kwa vyovyote vile kwa kubadili Design ya Mradi ni dhahiri shairi hata viwango vya fedha za uwekezaji zitabadilika tu.



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Ndahani said:
Shida ya miradi mingi ya wachina initial cost sio final cost. Kujenga bombs la gas la kuja Kinyerezi ni moja ya mifano hiyo.
Wachina nao ni magumashi sana
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Sasa maana ya contract ni nini? Sisi tutakubalije ku-sign contract ambayo project costs zitaongezeka kila siku? Usiseme kwa sababu ya kupungua kwa thamani ya shilingi kwa kuwa contractszinasainiwa kwa kutumia gharama katika USD ambayo iko stable.

Kwa hiyo si kweli kwamba tukisha sign contract wachina watakuja kuongeza gharama. Hakuna kitu cha namna hiyo. Na kama kipo kitakuwa na kipengele katika mkataba cha kitu kama gharama zisizotarajiwa zitakavyokubaliwa.

Huwezi kumtetea Magufuli kwa pointi hiyo kwa hili.
 
Synthesizer said:
Usikute Kikwete na Wachina kwa sasa hivi wanacheka kweli kweli, na wanamcheka nani hilo halihitaji PhD kwa wewe kuelewa.
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Wewe na magufuli nani alikua kwenye nafasi nzuri ya kunusa ufisadi?
Wachina watakupa mkopo wa B7,watalazimisha kampuni yao ifanye kazi,mradi ukifika kati mnaambiwa gharama zimeongezeka kwa hamtakua na jinsi mnakopa tena,waulizeni kenya walikopa kwa treni inayotumia mafuta ya taa sasa hivi deni limezidi kwa 100%
 
G Sam said:
Designing ya Wachina ni tofauti kabisa na hili tatakata linalojengwa na Yapi Merkezi. Wapi umewahi ona ule mdaraja kutoka station hadi Buguruni? Unakwepa vibarabara vingapi? Unaokoa nini? Ukienda huko sehemu zingine ni migharama isiyo na tija kabisa. Ule mradi kukamilika kwa chini ya trilioni 9 na mimi naweka SGR ya kienyesi changu kutoka station hadi Mwanza!
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Aisee... Hivi kitu kama hujui si bora ukae tu kimya kuliko kuonesha jinsi gani ulivyo mjinga?

Yani kabisa pamoja na kujiona unajua huoni kwamba kuweka daraja kunaepusha foleni za magari?

Wakati mwingine wakosoaji wa Magufuli naona kama mnauwezo mdogo sana wa kuchambua mambo?

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