Mundungus Fletcher
JF-Expert Member
- Jun 7, 2009
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In fact, you also demonstrate a lack of understanding in the relation between Jews and Christians. You are caught up in the romantic story of the bible that god favours a group of people and place them in Israel. What is it for you in Africa then??
I belong to Israeli.Palestine has expressed its gratitude to Tanzania for its principled stand in voting in its favour to achieve non-member observer status in the United Nations.
Ambassador of the State of Palestine to Tanzania, Dr Nasri Abu Jaish
Palestinian Ambassador to Tanzania, Dr Nasri Abujaish told reporters in Dar es Salaam yesterday that it was a remarkable achievement to all peace and freedom loving people all over the world.
Yesterday (Thursday) November 29, 2012, 138 states voted in favour of Palestine. The vote is a long sought victory for Palestine which has at last been granted its birth certificate after 65 years of resistance against Israeli occupation, confiscation, expulsion and genocide, he said.
According to news agencies, the resolution upgrading the Palestinian status to a non-member observer state at the United Nations was approved by more than two-thirds of the 193-member world body a vote of 138 for, nine against and 41 abstentions.
Dr Abujaish said that Tanzanias voting had once again demonstrated the historic solidarity between the people of Tanzania and Palestine. He said it was a global victory for human rights, freedom, national self determination, peace and justice.
He said that with the vote, Israeli occupation was effectively defeated and the State of Palestine and the Palestinians had won and that it showed the world had sided with justice and peace and was against occupation.
We now hope that with the enhancement of the State of Palestine, the UN Security Council will respond to the resolution submitted in 2011 to grant Palestine full membership in the UN and reaffirm its intention to achieve a two-state solution based on the pre-1967 borders, he said.
The Ambassador explained that with the new status, Palestine State was now ready to resume negotiation with Israel on issues of illegal settlements, Jerusalem, borders, refugees, water and other resources.
He stressed that Palestinians could now gain access to UN agencies and international bodies, particularly the International Criminal Court, which could become a facilitator to task Israel for alleged war crimes or its on-going settlement building on the war-won land.
Thursdays vote came on the same day, (November 29) in 1947 when the UN General Assembly voted to recognize a state in Palestine, though the jubilant revelers then were the Jews. The Palestinians rejected that partition plan and decades of tension and violence have followed.
Dr Abujaish said he was optimistic that in three months time, Israel would suffer its first case at the International Criminal Court after forensic tests on the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat pointed an accusing finger at them.
He said that Palestinians were convinced that Israel poisoned Mr Arafat and that they were certain Russia and Switzerland would unearth the truth. Joining the United States and Israel in the no vote were Canada, the Czech Republic, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Panama.
Real independence, however, remains an elusive dream until the Palestinians negotiate a peace deal with the Israelis, who warned that the General Assembly action will only delay a lasting solution. Israel still controls the West Bank, East Jerusalem and access to Gaza. It has accused the Palestinians of by-passing negotiations in the campaign to upgrade their UN status.
What history you talking about? Did you meant to say palestine not stated in holy books? Did you know that the land of Israel was turned upside down because of their homosexual activities? Btw i see no Tanzania in history!
Huwa nawashangaa Christians wanao sahau maneno haya.
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Israel might be a chosen Nation but we are all Gods beloved Children and made in his image(that includes Palestines).
You have shown a lack of specific understanding on this palestine issue, you have written in broad context equating unrelated events like apartheid, colonization or slave with Israelis living in the land of Israel. At least you should acknowledge the fact that the land some call it Israel and some call it palestine is a disputed one, two groups of people claim ownership to it. One group (palestinians) is motivated by its religious teaching to seek and destroy the other group (israelis), now the persecuted group has developed means of protecting itself including building a wall fortifying their houses and towns, rocket interceptors (iron dome) etc. Is it bad for a landlord to build a wall around his / her house to stop burglars? why do we see many houses in Dar es salaam and other cities built with security walls surrounding them??
There isn't apartheid neither occupation in Israel but two groups of people who can't live together in a piece of land which is pity because almost in all countries in the world different ethnic groups live together. In UK for example Irish, Scotts and Walsh live happily together, in Belgium there are germans, french and dutch, in Tanzania we have africans, asians, arabs.
If you think Jews and Christians are on one side and muslims, leftists, human right activists, anarchists,secularists, aethists etc on the other side then that makes the israel/palestine issue a faith driven conflict. Muslims and their anti semite supporters some mentioned above play a human right card to justify their faith driven jihad against jews and christians. Their only goal is to "get rid of the JEWS" They are not prepared to study and discuss the history of that disputed land to discern its rightful owner.
Mwenyewe umeandika mstari na bado huuelewi. Labda nikuwekee kwa kiswahili uuelewe vyema
Yohana 3:16 'Kwa maana hii Mungu aliupenda ulimwengu, hata akamtoa Mwanawe wa pekee, ili kila amwaminiye asipotee, bali awe na uzima wa milele'
Zingatia bold kwenye comment yako na masasahihisho niliyokuwekea. Si WOTE bali wale wamwaminie. Kama kuna Mpalestina anamwamini, then Yes. Kama anaamini katika kurusha maroketi, then NO. Kama kuna Mtanzania anamwamini, Big Yes, kama anaamini katika kuchoma makanisa, then NO.
Hata Marehemu Mohammed akimkiri Yesu ya kwamba ni bwana na mwokozi basi naye atafanyika kuwa mwana
Hebu rudi kwenye kiswahili labda akili yako itakaa sawa. Sodoma na Gomora ni sehemu ndogo ya ardhi ya Kaanan kwenye uwanda wa chini wa mto Jordan na si kwamba ni Israel nzima.
Ndio Tanzania haikukuwepo, ilikuwepo Tanganyika, Nyitu, Unknown e.t.c lkn occupants wake ndio sisi sisi. Next time sema Holy Bible sio holy books, hicho kitabu kingine sio holy
You have shown a lack of specific understanding on this palestine issue, you have written in broad context equating unrelated events like apartheid, colonization or slave with Israelis living in the land of Israel. At least you should acknowledge the fact that the land some call it Israel and some call it palestine is a disputed one, two groups of people claim ownership to it. One group (palestinians) is motivated by its religious teaching to seek and destroy the other group (israelis), now the persecuted group has developed means of protecting itself including building a wall fortifying their houses and towns, rocket interceptors (iron dome) etc. Is it bad for a landlord to build a wall around his / her house to stop burglars? why do we see many houses in Dar es salaam and other cities built with security walls surrounding them??
There isn't apartheid neither occupation in Israel but two groups of people who can't live together in a piece of land which is pity because almost in all countries in the world different ethnic groups live together. In UK for example Irish, Scotts and Walsh live happily together, in Belgium there are germans, french and dutch, in Tanzania we have africans, asians, arabs.
If you think Jews and Christians are on one side and muslims, leftists, human right activists, anarchists,secularists, aethists etc on the other side then that makes the israel/palestine issue a faith driven conflict. Muslims and their anti semite supporters some mentioned above play a human right card to justify their faith driven jihad against jews and christians. Their only goal is to "get rid of the JEWS" They are not prepared to study and discuss the history of that disputed land to discern its rightful owner.
When you write "god" or "mungu" it means the evil gods found in earth (Satan). But when you write " GOD" or "MUNGU" it means our almighty GOD in Heaven. .......but in Jesus name I will support Israel till death.
Huko unakoenda sio,
Mimi simoooo!
Ngoja waje wenye mohamed wao!
But in short haiwezekani Nabii Isa aje amuokoe Nabii Mohamedn kwani wa mwisho ni Mohamed.
I nw see the role of religion,ts to soften our hearts,why cnt we judge the truth?n let us be free,unyama wote unaofanywa na waisrael lakn stil bcz of religions we argue in their favour why?ths is al bcz of religion,i once asked my self y shud i belive in religions,they correct alot of money bt stil they dnt pay tax,ifound wher the truth lies n iknw em set free,
Zanzibar tushamaliza kazi, sasa hivi CCM Zanzibar na CUF wote WAMEAMKA.
ww kweli punguani, sasa kwani kisichotajwa kwenye koran ndo kibaya??? Basi Tanzania nayo mbaya maana haikutajwa?? Acha ujinga kuwasapot wapalestina sio dhambi kwani walikuwa wakinyanyaswa na kuliwa so ni hatua nzuri sana kushinda UN, kama ww uwapongezi tulia na roho mbaya yako, tunajua wengne mnapenda yale wanayoyafanya Israel juu ya udhalimu wao
israelites were expelled from israel by romans after suffering war defeats from romans and assyrians.later,arab settlers came and took advantage of turkish raid in the middle east to occupy the land.now the jews want all their land back and people call them invaders?CRAZY WORLD!
Huwa nawashangaa Christians wanao sahau maneno haya.
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Israel might be a chosen Nation but we are all Gods beloved Children and made in his image(that includes Palestines).
Israel ni living clock yetu waamini kwamba muda wetu wa kukaa hapa unakaribia kufikia mwisho and soon we will be caught to meet our King in the outer space..Wenye dhambi kazaneni kutenda dhambi na wenye kujitakasa jitakaseni sana....Maana Israel maanandiko yanasema itapingwa na dunia nzima lakini yenyewe itakataa ku-bow...Ikifikia hapo mataifa yataamua kuipiga Israel kivita nayo itatekwa mpaka robo tatu yake ndipo wana wa Israel watamkumbuka Mungu wao watamrudia kwakulia na kuomboleza naye Mungu wao atashuka kuja kupigana vita ndipo mifereji ya damu itatoka kutoka Israel na wengi wa walioivamia Israel wataiona hasira ya Mungu.
you might be among those 9. but if you realy have love and wish peace to your fellow beings without any bias, i hope you would have been supported palestinian