Operation Chaos: Lowassa, Chenge, Rostam et al; Don't Quit CCM!

[Superman]

Mkuu,

Kuna taarifa kuwa wote watatu washatumiwa barua kwa 'dispatch' na kwa sasa wanajipanga. Pasaka au siku moja/mbili baadae wanaweza kuja kivingine.

Imetulia hii Mkuu!

Safari sasa imefika Mlima Kitonga yaani Ngoma inogile!

Respect.

 

[Marytina]

Nayaunga mkono mawazo yako.

Personally sikubaliani na ccm kuwahukumu mapacha wakati bado mafisadi wengi tu wanaendelea na nyadhifa zao ndani ya chama

Viongozi kibao wa idara na mashirika ya umma wangeondolewa kwanza then wafwate waliondani ya chama.
Jaman ccm inatuzuga JK mwenyewe gamba

Haiwezekani wale wote leo washutumiwe watatu.
HAMNA ANAYEWEZA KUWANYOSHEA KIDOLE ETI MAPACHA HAWAFAI ndani ya CCM wakati ni mfumo wao wa maisha

 

[Uswe]

So far there is no evidence whatsoever put forth by the ruling party that you are the most corrupt members of the part. No one has accused you publicly or has even claimed that there is enough evidence to warrant your removal from the party. At least the Mwakyembe's report had some resemblance of credible allegations especially againt EL and RA but not this so called "skin shedding".

For this reason, I believe you will do your part and your supporters a huge favor and justice by not resigning from any party position and as a matter of fact any measure that will be taken against you should be met with a forceful and precise response.

They have failed to even name you in their public report of the party, they failed to level any credible allegation beside saying "these people have been named by a number of citizen and media that they are involved in corruption".

If you agree to resign you will infact prove without any doubt that you are the most corrupt CCM members ever! By resigning or quitting the party the allegations that have been on your tails for sometimes now will need no further proof. You will go down in history as the most corrupt public officials ever to have hold power.

Are you? Well CCM believes that you are to warrant the resignation of both the Central Committee and the Secretariat. If you resign or quit within the 90 days the answer will be in the affirmative.

I know for sure one thing after 90 days CCM will not do anything against you and still remain credible. They can't fire you, they can't just take your party membership without due quasi judicial course within the part as outlined in the CCM's own constitution or the Principles of Ethics guideline.

So.. stay put, enjoy your position, work like ever before and don't mind the new CCM leadership. They can't do a damn thing.

Hapana MM, wacha tu waondoke, usisahau kwamba when it comes to CCM impossible is nothing, we unaweza kudhani kutoondoka kwao kunaweza kuleta ka-dram flani na labda kupelekea chama kumomonyoka zaidi lakini inaweza isiwe hivyo, waking'ang'ania mwenyekiti atawaita wataongea, watajadiliana watoke na statements gani za kuduwaza. Hii ikitokea sisi (wananchi) ndio tutakuwa tunapoteza, hii ni GOLDEN CHANCE na ni muhimu itumike.....WACHA TU WAENDE MM

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

kwanza.ujue mi si mwanasiasa,sina kadi wala mda wa kupiga kura kuwatetea bado nawatee mazee.kama mna evidence go the court.

Sasa tunakubaliana ndio ninachosema kuwa wasitoke CCM tuone kama CCM ina ushahidi wa kuwaondoa hivi hivi bila ya kuwafikisha mahakamani.

kinanishangaza we ulikua na evidence bado wasema wasijiudhuru kwa ufisadi lengo lako hapo ni WAZI UNATAKA CCM WAVUrugane chama kife mpate gap ya kula keki ya taifa.dah,ajab sana.

Labda hujasoma heading ya thread .. hii inaitwa "Operesheni Vurugu"..

Msimamo wangu ni kuwa ntaendelea kuwaona lowasa,lostam..chenge innocent until proved guilt beyond doubt.kimahakama.

Kitu ambacho unakubaliana na mimi kama wako innocent wabakie ndani ya Chama wasitoke maana wakitoka watathibitisha kuwa siyo innocent!

Kichama kama wanaombwa kuwajibka kwa hata shutma kunusuru chama it is ok

Yaani watu wauze utu wao, heshima yao, majina yao na haki yao kwa ajili ya chama? na kwako "its ok"? Lakini tulipowaliliwa wajibike kwa ajili ya "nchi" its not ok? Kweli wenzetu hii CCM imewaingia vibaya kweli.

 

[Uswe]

Nayaunga mkono mawazo yako.

Personally sikubaliani na ccm kuwahukumu mapacha wakati bado mafisadi wengi tu wanaendelea na nyadhifa zao ndani ya chama

Viongozi kibao wa idara na mashirika ya umma wangeondolewa kwanza then wafwate waliondani ya chama.
Jaman ccm inatuzuga JK mwenyewe gamba

Haiwezekani wale wote leo washutumiwe watatu.
HAMNA ANAYEWEZA KUWANYOSHEA KIDOLE ETI MAPACHA HAWAFAI ndani ya CCM wakati ni mfumo wao wa maisha

Jamani, Kazi tuliyofanya ni kubwa, kumuondoa fisadi mmoja tu kama RA ni kazi inayohitaji pongezi, Yes, najua si hao watatu pekee, najua wapo wengi wengine, some of them wamewahi kushika/ wanashika nafasi kubwa kabisa nchini, Lakini wacha hawa watatu waondoke kwanza afu tuendelee kuwachomoa wengine, come 2015 tutakuwa tumewamaliza kabisa

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Hapana MM, wacha tu waondoke, usisahau kwamba when it comes to CCM impossible is nothing, we unaweza kudhani kutoondoka kwao kunaweza kuleta ka-dram flani na labda kupelekea chama kumomonyoka zaidi lakini inaweza isiwe hivyo, waking'ang'ania mwenyekiti atawaita wataongea, watajadiliana watoke na statements gani za kuduwaza. Hii ikitokea sisi (wananchi) ndio tutakuwa tunapoteza, hii ni GOLDEN CHANCE na ni muhimu itumike.....WACHA TU WAENDE MM

Baada ya maneno yote yaliyosemwa na wanapropaganda wa CCM hakuna mwenyekiti wala Katibu atakayeweza kuwaita wazungumza.. kwani pasipo wao kuondoka wataonekana CCM wamezidiwa na mafisadi na wakiondoka bila kufuata taratibu wataonekana wameondolewa kibabe.

 

[CAMARADERIE]

Oldman of the Village.......tuandikie kwa kiswahili bana........mambo ya kuja JF na dikshenari taabu sana:loco:

 

[taffu69]

Kama kuwaondoa RA na EL ni lazima watanguliwe na JK kwani katika watu waliowezesha kumuingiza JK kwenye nafasi ya Urais wawili hao ndio waliotoa mchango mkubwa kufanikisha hilo. JK aliingia madarakani kwa nguvu ya ufisadi hivyo kama wanataka kupambana na ufisadi ni lazima waanze na yeye otherwise hakuna chochote kitakachofanyika.

 

[Uswe]

Baada ya maneno yote yaliyosemwa na wanapropaganda wa CCM hakuna mwenyekiti wala Katibu atakayeweza kuwaita wazungumza.. kwani pasipo wao kuondoka wataonekana CCM wamezidiwa na mafisadi na wakiondoka bila kufuata taratibu wataonekana wameondolewa kibabe.

MM, unakumbuka serikali ambayo mkuu wake ni JK ilimburuza Mramba kortini, ilipofika wakati wa uchaguzi JK anaenda kumuombea kura na anasema 'HAJAONA MCHAPA KAZI KAMA MRAMBA?'. Wananchi walipohoji hii inakuwaje, unakumbuka majibu yake? 'ETI ZILE NI TUHUMA TU, HAZIJATHIBITISHWA, HADI ITHIBITIKE MAHAKANI NDIO TUTASEMA HUYU MTU SI MSAFI' Yeye mkuu wa serikali, serikali anayoingoza inaamini kuwa mramba mchafu ndio maana ikamburuza mahakamani, mkuu wa serikali anasema eti haijathibitika, hii ndio CCM MM.

Pia RA, EL na Chenge wakiendelea kukaa watatupotezea muda, wengi wetu tutaendelea kuhangaika nao wakati walitakiwa wawe wameshakaa pembeni ili tupeleke nguvu zetu kuwachoropoa mafisadi wengine, wapo wengi!

 

[Gurudumu]

Mkuu,

Kuna taarifa kuwa wote watatu washatumiwa barua kwa 'dispatch' na kwa sasa wanajipanga. Pasaka au siku moja/mbili baadae wanaweza kuja kivingine.

Hadi nione nakala zake mkuu, jaribuni kubandika basi

 

[howard]

Nahisi kama kuna watu hawajamuelewa mwanakijiji vile, iweke kiswahili baba wataelewa hao wengine

 

[Nyamgluu]

There was no need for JK to cause this comotion (sp) with his 'vua magamba' campaign. One thing that RACHEL cares about more than anything in the world is their ego,and this move has bruised their ego! Please don't take the front seat for you are sure to leave with blood spots from this fight.
Their is no way in hell or heaven that RACHEL will leave silently ESPECIALLY after being humiliated. I'm stretchin my imagination here to believe that unless JK silently/subtly threatens them with the involvment of JESHI these niggas aint goin no where,too much is at stake!

 

[Uswe]

Nahisi kama kuna watu hawajamuelewa mwanakijiji vile, iweke kiswahili baba wataelewa hao wengine

MM kaeleweka howard, anahisi kama RA na wenzake watakomaa basi kunaweza kutokea mvurugano ndani ya chama, lakini hawa watu msiwakaridirie hivyo, wanaweza kuibuka siku moja wakasema kitu kingine kabisa, wanaweza kuibuka na kusema hawa watu ni wasafi sana ila walikua wanafanya tu kukinusuru chama na kwa kuwa chama kimeshanusurika hamna tena sababu ya kina RA kuondoka, Tutafanyaje?....Jamani time is now, wacha tu waondoke afu si twendeleze muziki kuwachomoa mafisadi wengine

 

[Gurudumu]

Nahisi kama kuna watu hawajamuelewa mwanakijiji vile, iweke kiswahili baba wataelewa hao wengine

Nadhani ibaki kwa kiingereza kwa sababu,

Ikiwa kwa Kiswahili ndo utakutana na idadi kubwa ya wachangiaji ambao uwezo wao wa kuelewa hoja ni mdogo kisha watajaza thread hii na pumba. Nimefurahia quality ya mawazo kwenye hii thread

Hata hivyo kuna watu wengi hapa wamechangia kwa Kiswahili na bado utapata wachache wanatoka nje ya mstari. Hivyo shida hasa siyo lugha iliyotumika bali uwezo wa kuelewa hoja.

Pia, kama hawajui kiingereza basi wajifunze na hii ni fursa kwao- mjadala kwa kiingereza

 

[manenge]

Anayosema MM inaonekana kama utani lakini ukweli kuwaondoa hao mafisadi kwenye chama ni hatari zaidi kwani wamekuwa ni sehemu ya chama kwa maana nyingine uwezi kuwaondoa na chama kikabaki salama. Ikumbukwe kuwa EL alishasema kabla kujiuzulu uwaziri mkuu kwammba kama tutaanza kumchunguza kila mmoja hakuna atakayesalimika.

 

[Losemo]

Do you think it is so easy for EL to quit CCM just like that? Forget. Who will fill his position, Namsikitikia huyo dogo Nawie amejikita katikati bila kupima kwanza kama ni ugali au mboga. wait and see

 

[KakaJambazi]

Mi ninavyojua ishu ya mapacha watatu imetengenezwa na vyombo vya habari,,CCm wanawajua watu wao wa kuwatoa kafara kwenye hili.

Movie ya sasa, na hasa ya kwenye mkutano wa jana imekua wanaanza na mafisadi wa chini, na hasa watumishi wa serikali wanaojifanya miungu watu kwa wananchi walioko kwenye kata,vitongoji na vijiji.

 

[FJM]

The one behind this is a very genius brain ambaye hawezi shindwa hata siku mmoja. You know what Noa alipokuwa anajenga the arc wakati huo watu wenye knowledge mbali mbali walikuja na analysis ya kufa mtu kwamba wakati huu wa kiangazi mafuriko yaje Noa whats wrong with your brain? They asked. Wakati wa Moses Pharaoh akasema Moses wewe umwenye kigugumizi wewe niliye kulea na ujinga wako wote ninaufahamu uniambie haya hivi unajua nguvu nilizonazo? Then akawaacha waende akijua watakutana na bahari ya Shamu and guess what wakati huo Pharaoh akajiona ana akili kweli na Moses was very stupid taking that direction to escape what followed I need not to preach and a lot of examples are there to show us how serious some of us can mean whatever statement we choose to make. Narudia tena HAKUNA FISADI TANZANIA UNDER THIS REGIME ATAPONA. I said this three years a go rain came sun shined people thought I was dreaming and no body could hear this faint and un popular voice. Watch and see the best is yet to come, things are going to set themselves to back my statement and all shall know that there is no greater God in Tanzania than the God of Ame who is to be worshiped by all the living.

Hapo kwenye red... You mean hata Saif al-Islam wa Magogoni hawezi pona?

 

[Poetik Justice]

So far there is no evidence whatsoever put forth by the ruling party that you are the most corrupt members of the part. No one has accused you publicly or has even claimed that there is enough evidence to warrant your removal from the party. At least the Mwakyembe's report had some resemblance of credible allegations especially againt EL and RA but not this so called "skin shedding".

For this reason, I believe you will do your part and your supporters a huge favor and justice by not resigning from any party position and as a matter of fact any measure that will be taken against you should be met with a forceful and precise response.

They have failed to even name you in their public report of the party, they failed to level any credible allegation beside saying "these people have been named by a number of citizen and media that they are involved in corruption".

If you agree to resign you will infact prove without any doubt that you are the most corrupt CCM members ever! By resigning or quitting the party the allegations that have been on your tails for sometimes now will need no further proof. You will go down in history as the most corrupt public officials ever to have hold power.

Are you? Well CCM believes that you are to warrant the resignation of both the Central Committee and the Secretariat. If you resign or quit within the 90 days the answer will be in the affirmative.

I know for sure one thing after 90 days CCM will not do anything against you and still remain credible. They can't fire you, they can't just take your party membership without due quasi judicial course within the part as outlined in the CCM's own constitution or the Principles of Ethics guideline.

So.. stay put, enjoy your position, work like ever before and don't mind the new CCM leadership. They can't do a damn thing.

Hahaha. Sacarsm au reverse psychology??

 

[Ame]

There was no need for JK to cause this comotion (sp) with his 'vua magamba' campaign. One thing that RACHEL cares about more than anything in the world is their ego,and this move has bruised their ego! Please don't take the front seat for you are sure to leave with blood spots from this fight.
Their is no way in hell or heaven that RACHEL will leave silently ESPECIALLY after being humiliated. I'm stretchin my imagination here to believe that unless JK silently/subtly threatens them with the involvment of JESHI these niggas aint goin no where,too much is at stake!

Most of you blame JK for doing this; hakufanya wala asingetamani kufanya hivyo. JK is forced to do so kwaajili ya how things have set themselves ambapo he is in a terrible threat on both side kwa upande wa hao wenzake na upande ule wa nguvu ya umma so he is caught in between. Kwa uwezo alionao he sees its easy to handle the RACHEL side kwani the other is so visible for him to act against. Lakini niwaambie jamani bahari ya Sham si kikwazo kwa wateule ila kwa majeshi ya Pharaoh. Hakuna anayeweza kuchange hii destructive equation sana sana haya bado ni mapigo kati ya yale kumi na mwisho itakapokuja kuwa bahari imegawanyika na wao wakadhani watapita kama wana wa Israel hapo ndo watajua kuwa sometimes there are power and powers. I can bet with you people nobody who is Fisadi atavuka hii vita salama.