Mwanamuziki maarufu akamatwa Rwanda

Mwanamuziki maarufu akamatwa Rwanda

jMali,

Usipoteze muda mwingi quoting, copyin and pasting stuff from your genocidaire websites. Gen Kabiligi was complicit in the planning and execution of the genocide against tutsis. Kabiligi was the head of -03 in 1994. How can you sit here and tell us that the head of military operations did not know or take part in the genocide against tutsis. How do you explain away documented visits around the country to ramp up and fire up hardline hutu youth to massacre tutsis? Remember what he said in Bugarama and what he gave out to the interahamwe there? Acha propaganda za kitoto kutaka kupindisha ukweli. You extremists hutus carried out the genocide against tutsis, that's a fact.
 
Hivi juzi nimeona bunge lenu la katiba. Hivi nikuulize...how ndio viongozi wenu mnaowategemea? I'd rather be on this side than on that side. Aibu. Hao viongozi wenu ndio mad men/women. Matusi bungeni and you dare to talk about rwanda. Pleeease. Ningekuwa wewe ningefunga mdomo wangu wala nisingeongea. Hiyo katiba yenu lazima iwe na beti za taarabu manake matusi yanayotoka midomoni mwao ni sawa na nyimbo za taarabu. Yangu macho.
.nyie mkitaka kumkosoa kagame mnaenda chooni and speak to the shit and flies,here we dare talk,sing and do openly, that one man state will never be stable and it cant live without him,the day he dies the nation will be in fire again,kagame,the east african zombie, thirst of blood,the assassin of democracy
 
Hivi juzi nimeona bunge lenu la katiba. Hivi nikuulize...how ndio viongozi wenu mnaowategemea? I'd rather be on this side than on that side. Aibu. Hao viongozi wenu ndio mad men/women. Matusi bungeni and you dare to talk about rwanda. Pleeease. Ningekuwa wewe ningefunga mdomo wangu wala nisingeongea. Hiyo katiba yenu lazima iwe na beti za taarabu manake matusi yanayotoka midomoni mwao ni sawa na nyimbo za taarabu. Yangu macho.

Pamoja na makelele yale. Je uliona damu imemwagika? Usilinganishe vitu ambavyo havifanani. Tz na rw ni mashariki na magharibi.
 
jMali,

Usipoteze muda mwingi quoting, copyin and pasting stuff from your genocidaire websites. Gen Kabiligi was complicit in the planning and execution of the genocide against tutsis. Kabiligi was the head of -03 in 1994. How can you sit here and tell us that the head of military operations did not know or take part in the genocide against tutsis. How do you explain away documented visits around the country to ramp up and fire up hardline hutu youth to massacre tutsis? Remember what he said in Bugarama and what he gave out to the interahamwe there? Acha propaganda za kitoto kutaka kupindisha ukweli. You extremists hutus carried out the genocide against tutsis, that's a fact.

hivi wewe tutsi-extremist unajua maana ya MAHAKAMA? kama mahakama maalum iliyoundwa just for one purpose exonerated Gen Kabiligi who are you so say otherwise? hayo uliyoandika juu kwa nini hukupeleka mahakamani mpaka kabiligi kaachiwa huru kabisa with not a single indictment?
Narudia tena swali langu: we have 800k-1mil people dead; if mahakama says the hutu army was not responsible for these deaths (kabiligi and co), then who killed them?
 
hivi wewe tutsi-extremist unajua maana ya MAHAKAMA? kama mahakama maalum iliyoundwa just for one purpose exonerated Gen Kabiligi who are you so say otherwise? hayo uliyoandika juu kwa nini hukupeleka mahakamani mpaka kabiligi kaachiwa huru kabisa with not a single indictment?
Narudia tena swali langu: we have 800k-1mil people dead; if mahakama says the hutu army was not responsible for these deaths (kabiligi and co), then who killed them?

Genocide revisionist. Utatetea weeeeee mpaka utakapo fukiwa 6 feet under but the facts will remain that. FACTS. You massacred 1 million tutsis and moderate hutus and we will hunt you down until each one of you faces his/her day in court. Bahati mbaya nyie mliobaki mtaletwa hapa kwetu manake mahakama inahamia hapa sasa. Sijui mtachomoaje? Patience. Patience. Mmoja. Mmoja tu.
 
.nyie mkitaka kumkosoa kagame mnaenda chooni and speak to the shit and flies,here we dare talk,sing and do openly, that one man state will never be stable and it cant live without him,the day he dies the nation will be in fire again,kagame,the east african zombie, thirst of blood,the assassin of democracy

Hiyo ndio democracy sio. Watu wazima wanatoa matusi ya nguoni. Well...sijui lakini i am sure that majority ya watanzania would love to live here where serikali iko accountable na inatekeleza mipango yoooote ya maendeleo. Bunge letu ni serious sio hilo la vituko. Mngekuwa mna akili mngetuacha sisi mka focus huko kwenu manake naona treni imeacha njia yake.
 
Hiyo ndio democracy
sio. Watu wazima wanatoa matusi ya nguoni. Well...sijui lakini i am sure
that majority ya watanzania would love to live here where serikali iko
accountable na inatekeleza mipango yoooote ya maendeleo. Bunge letu ni
serious sio hilo la vituko. Mngekuwa mna akili mngetuacha sisi mka focus
huko kwenu manake naona treni imeacha njia yake.

nani anapenda kuishi huko wewe mtu akimsema kimada wa kagame anakamatwa? bado hamjapata uhuru nyie tafuteni freedom kwanza ndo tutakuja
 
Genocide revisionist. Utatetea weeeeee mpaka utakapo fukiwa 6 feet under but the facts will remain that. FACTS. You massacred 1 million tutsis and moderate hutus and we will hunt you down until each one of you faces his/her day in court. Bahati mbaya nyie mliobaki mtaletwa hapa kwetu manake mahakama inahamia hapa sasa. Sijui mtachomoaje? Patience. Patience. Mmoja. Mmoja tu.

kwa hiyo mahakama ya ICTR ni genocide revisionists?
 
jMali,

I repeat what's lawful is not always just. Apartheid was lawful and so were Jim Crowism and the third reich. Kuna wahalifu wengi tu huachiwa huru kutokana na technicalities. Vile vile don't forget about activist judges in ICTR. Kuna mmoja anaitwa Meron or something like that. Huyu ametuhumiwa kuachia washitakiwa bila sababu za msingi. Ukweli utabaki pale pale kuwa Kabiligi is accountable to the genocide against the tutsi. Kama hatia mbona harudi Rwanda. Badala yake mara ahifadhiwe kwa hela yetu walipa kodi Tanzania mara akimbilie kwa wafadhili wake Ufaransa. He is a killer who will face justice very soon, God Willing.
 
jMali,

I repeat what's lawful is not always just. Apartheid was lawful and so were Jim Crowism and the third reich. Kuna wahalifu wengi tu huachiwa huru kutokana na technicalities. Vile vile don't forget about activist judges in ICTR. Kuna mmoja anaitwa Meron or something like that. Huyu ametuhumiwa kuachia washitakiwa bila sababu za msingi. Ukweli utabaki pale pale kuwa Kabiligi is accountable to the genocide against the tutsi. Kama hatia mbona harudi Rwanda. Badala yake mara ahifadhiwe kwa hela yetu walipa kodi Tanzania mara akimbilie kwa wafadhili wake Ufaransa. He is a killer who will face justice very soon, God Willing.

No need to involve God as everyone knows God is against the kind of "justice" you are talking about! Justice inaamuliwa na mahakama beyond that surely you are implying the same justice that Prof Jani mwaikusa got kwa kufichua madudu yenu at the ICTR, the same justice that met Gakwe Rwisereka, karegeya,Jean Leonard Rugambage,Charles Ingabire plus a whole lot of banyarwanda against RPF/kagame.

In the words of Nyamwasa whom i don't even like, take note on the words in red:
"He kills, he imprisons, he fires any time any day, and nobody will go to court or any situation to challenge any decision."
"Why is Rwanda so unique that you've got prime ministers in exile, you've got foreign ministers in exile, you've got former parliament members in exile, we've got journalists in exile, we've got armed officers in exile?"

source:Attempted murder trial exposes Rwandan opposition crackdown - La Tribune franco-rwandaise


Further readings: Deadly attacks on Rwandan opposition spark warning by UN | World news | The Observer
Editor blames security forces after Rwandan journalist shot dead | World news | The Guardian

Jumapili njema.
 
No need to involve God as everyone knows God is against the kind of "justice" you are talking about! Justice inaamuliwa na mahakama beyond that surely you are implying the same justice that Prof Jani mwaikusa got kwa kufichua madudu yenu at the ICTR, the same justice that met Gakwe Rwisereka, karegeya,Jean Leonard Rugambage,Charles Ingabire plus a whole lot of banyarwanda against RPF/kagame.

In the words of Nyamwasa whom i don't even like, take note on the words in red:
"He kills, he imprisons, he fires any time any day, and nobody will go to court or any situation to challenge any decision."
"Why is Rwanda so unique that you've got prime ministers in exile, you've got foreign ministers in exile, you've got former parliament members in exile, we've got journalists in exile, we've got armed officers in exile?"

source:Attempted murder trial exposes Rwandan opposition crackdown - La Tribune franco-rwandaise


Further readings: Deadly attacks on Rwandan opposition spark warning by UN | World news | The Observer
Editor blames security forces after Rwandan journalist shot dead | World news | The Guardian

Jumapili njema.

Courts do not necessarily offer justice, they do laws (interpretation and adherence to rather). True justice comes only from God. There is not any concrete evidence to link the RPF, RDF or the Rwandan government to the deaths of the people you mentioned. You make it look as if the only enemy those people had was Kagame? Prof Mwaikusa was killed by armed robbers. Show us evidence that he killed by Kigali. You can't peg his death to Rwanda. How many advocates have worked with the ICTR that have not been killed? Why is Judge Meron still walking the streets even though he deliberately let go of murderers like Kabiligi?

As for Nyamwasa, I am amazed as to how you can give any credence to a traitor in exile. Even the CIA does not trust what snitching exiles have to say. Exiles tend to say and in most cases fabricate and exaggerate events so as to justify their status with their host nations and backers. For a hutu extremist like you to quote Nyamwasa is very unfortunate. Had it not been for Pres Kagame, Nyamwasa and his clique of hardliners would have unleashed a bloody campaign to avenge the genocide against the tutsi. It is Pres Kagame's wisdom that kept people like he in check. And this is the thanks you give Kagame? Nyamwasa is a dangerous man especially to extremist hutus like you. Again, do not bring your genocidaire sources to try to back your deposit. Do you really expect anyone to give a hoot to what France or its hardline hutu puppets and news outlets have to say about Rwanda? Nigga please.
 
Courts do not necessarily offer justice, they do laws (interpretation and adherence to rather). True justice comes only from God. There is not any concrete evidence to link the RPF, RDF or the Rwandan government to the deaths of the people you mentioned. You make it look as if the only enemy those people had was Kagame? Prof Mwaikusa was killed by armed robbers. Show us evidence that he killed by Kigali. You can't peg his death to Rwanda. How many advocates have worked with the ICTR that have not been killed? Why is Judge Meron still walking the streets even though he deliberately let go of murderers like Kabiligi?

As for Nyamwasa, I am amazed as to how you can give any credence to a traitor in exile. Even the CIA does not trust what snitching exiles have to say. Exiles tend to say and in most cases fabricate and exaggerate events so as to justify their status with their host nations and backers. For a hutu extremist like you to quote Nyamwasa is very unfortunate. Had it not been for Pres Kagame, Nyamwasa and his clique of hardliners would have unleashed a bloody campaign to avenge the genocide against the tutsi. It is Pres Kagame's wisdom that kept people like he in check. And this is the thanks you give Kagame? Nyamwasa is a dangerous man especially to extremist hutus like you. Again, do not bring your genocidaire sources to try to back your deposit. Do you really expect anyone to give a hoot to what France or its hardline hutu puppets and news outlets have to say about Rwanda? Nigga please.

1. So now ICTR is totally irrelevant to you ( i don't know how you feel about bagosora and other cases) how do we know then that these guys are guilty? hebu sema ni kivipi hawa jamaa ni guilty even though ICTR has set them free with not a single charge.

2. Prof was killed shortly after he called for kagame to be indicted at the same court, plus the "armed robbers" only seemed interested in his mkoba uliokuwa na nyaraka za kesi.....some armed robbers indeed. what about the others though? they too died conincidentally after disagreeing with kagame/RPF?

3. As for nyamwasa being a traitor, dude, im Tanzanian, whether he is or he is not it's not for me to decide, i judge him as i see fit. As a Tanzanian you would remember how many "traitors" we helped: museveni, john garang, jaramogi odinga, plus a host of others (review kikwete's speech in SA).. so you see we are nation that judge for ourselves whether political dissidents are traitors or not.
Halafu there you go again about how kagame stopped Nyamwasa and co blah blah, so when was this? they fell out in what 2010, the "genocide" was in 1994! so for all these 16 years Nyamwasa and co weren't extremists, they only became extremists after falling out with kagame in 2010? please, there are many qualities you can attribute to kagame i dont think wisdom is one of them!

4. about my sources, hapa unachekesha as everyone here can see i have cited three sources, only ONE from the french-rwanda website, and two from THE GUARDIAN (UK) . From the french source i have taken a QUOTATION, what Nyamwasa had said, not an analysis from the website..but here you go! Unless of course you want to say THE GUARDIAN UK is a "hardline hutu news outlet":smile-big: tutsi please!🙂
 
nani anapenda kuishi huko wewe mtu akimsema kimada wa kagame anakamatwa? bado hamjapata uhuru nyie tafuteni freedom kwanza ndo tutakuja

Kama yule mwanamziki anaitwa nani tena? Babu Seya
 
Dimwit kweli wewe...nimesema wewe ndio revisionist...wapi nimeandika ICTR?

1. Wewe akili zako za usiku tu...befitting a cockroach!:A S tongue: ,Ukiniona tu unadandia kucomment bila hata kujua hoja ni nini, revise the entire thread, anzia ulipoanzia utagundua tulikuwa tunabishana uhalali wa ICTR!
 
1. Wewe akili zako za usiku tu...befitting a cockroach!:A S tongue: ,Ukiniona tu unadandia kucomment bila hata kujua hoja ni nini, revise the entire thread, anzia ulipoanzia utagundua tulikuwa tunabishana uhalali wa ICTR!

Hao "cockroach" waliwafurumusha mkakimbilia porini. Mpaka sasa mnatapatapa kwenye nchi za wengine mkitafuta sympathy. Pitty you.
 
Hao "cockroach" waliwafurumusha mkakimbilia porini. Mpaka sasa mnatapatapa kwenye nchi za wengine mkitafuta sympathy. Pitty you.

hilo neno limekukera sana dimwit? hahaha, huo ni ulinganisho tu ningeweza kukuita popo vile vile, usiende mbali...anyway, for the sake of YOUR OWN argument above, aren't you cockroaches crying every year because supposedly my kind (remember...for the sake of argument!) wiped a million of you? kwibuka??...you know, that never again thing? Halafu mnakasirika kweli watu wasipohudhuria.. looks like you ndio mnatafuta sympathy!
 
FACT : interahamwe was funded by wealthy tutsis with connection to ugandan-tutsis exiles including RPA and kagame, and its PRESIDENT at the time of genocide, who led and coordinated the killings of tutsi was a tutsi himself, ROBERT KAJUGA, who pretended to be a hutu! Now, tell that to your cousin's bird see what song it would make out of it! 🙂
This is beyond delusional.
 
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