Mitt romney 's approval rating is bad
Mitt romney 's approval rating is bad
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Ishmael
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Is she the most progressive possible candidate, no, once again. But the most progressive Democratic candidates have said they will not run if she runs or they will have to change their registration in order to run as a Democrat.
But she will be different from the Republicans on woman issues, gay rights, helping children and families to survive with an in tact safety net, higher minimum wage, etc. But she will not bring wholesale changes in basic economic relationships which would scare the 40% of moderate third way democratic and independent voters who are necessary to win elections. She is by far the strongest candidate we have at this time, even if it is only to break the glass ceiling and make history as we did in 2008.
But if that is not enough, think of the Supreme Court, which is the only realistic way Citizens United will be overturned, With a more progressive court the 2016 election will effect american history for the next 20 years.
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Yes,
In America, Wazungu wapo wengi zaidi ya weusi, that is true, lakini kuna tule turangi twingine ambapo tupo katika ya Mzungu na Mweusi. Tule nako tunaweza tukawaweka kwenye Wazungu, maana wale huwa hawajiiti Waafrika.
Ndio maana nilisema, watakao umia ni Wazungu wa Indiana, Michigan, Ohio nk.
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I see!,......it's bizarre how the rest of minorities (non white)!, who don't consider themselves as part of the group when it comes to getting help from the Government, "as minorities", while blacks have been voted as a symbol of minorities!
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Racism is still alive, let us continue to fight it.
There used to be a lone Black GOP representative in Congress by the name of JC Watts. His father--his OWN FATHER--told him that a Black man voting for a Republican was like the chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.
JC had a smart daddy. JC should have listened to his Paw. The GOP didn't treat him very well, when all was said and done.
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Dems will probably lead on women issues (specifically), Repubs just nailed themselves few days ago regarding this.
They might also make a third 'huge' history in America elections, 1st black Prez, 1st black Prez elected twice, 1st woman Prez?!..... (in the making)
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You know, see how the game will work.
In both 2010 and 2014, Democrats desperately tried to distance themselves from Obama and his administration's achievements. Leaving left-leaning voters nothing to vote for, only something to vote against. And Democrats got crushed.
In 2012, Democrats could not run away from Obama and his administration. Since he was on the top of the ticket. Left-leaning voters had something to vote for. And Democrats did very well.
Point being, "OMG REPUBLICANS" is a losing strategy. We need to stop pretending it can work. Which means stop apologizing for being the 'liberal' party so we can start giving people a reason to vote for us.
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This make perfect sense!, though......at the beginning I didn't mean to raise a cowardi(c) point, rather a more cautious one. We all know the unpredictable elections of the developed nations, a good thing obviously, and I think it's a good lesson as well knowing that, it doesn't matter ratings are good or bad, you have to keep working hard. We have seen this in 2008, I was one of those who thought BO wouldn't go far but look at him now. And this is why I said it's still too early to tell with Romney. Nyani Ngabu made a point earlier and I think it's interesting that, 'sometimes Americans get tired of one party being in power for too long', and we darn sure know they can vote it out as long as they are convinced enough (I wish this could happen in my country of Tz).....lol!
But, it's not about pretending or worrying about the other guys coming stronger than ever before but, as you said it's better to start giving people a reason to vote for your party, the earlier the better!
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Another reason, is this, Mitt Romney's best shot was in 2012. As of now, the economy is starting to rebound, President Obama's job-approval ratings are rebounding, and voters are starting to give him credit for the economic recovery. If the economy continues to rebound, and is in even better in 2016, and President Obama's fully recover by 2016, it's going to harder for Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, or any republican to win the presidency in 2016.
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‘Why the Voters of 2016 Are Likely to Be Younger and More Diverse'
nytimes.com/2014/11/12/upshot/why-the...
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San Diego (CNN)On the threshold of the 2016 election, the GOP is in a terrible fix over immigration. They've done such an effective job of alienating Hispanics over the years with their overall approach to immigration.
Fences need to be mended. At least that's the views of Republicans who understand changing demographics and realize the folly of antagonizing a population that produces more than 2 million potential voters every four years and maintains a sizable presence in three battleground states: Nevada, Florida and Colorado.
And yet, in politics, the first rule is that elected officials should always remember to take care of their base -- elements of which, for the GOP, frown on attempts by Republican politicians to engage in "Hispandering" by reaching out to Hispanic voters and softening their tone on immigration. It's mostly about jealously and resentment over seeing elected officials who used to woo them going off to woo somewhere else.
Nonetheless, going forward, Republicans aren't sure what to do, and this indecision stems from three things.
First, it is an article of faith among Republicans -- particularly those in the House of Representatives -- that the voters who turned out in November and put the GOP back in control of both houses of Congress want them to derail what the right-wing inaccurately describes as Obama's "executive amnesty."
That's what House Republicans attempted to do recently when they used amendments to a spending bill for the Department of Homeland Security to cut off funding for the administration's plan to shield millions of illegal immigrants from deportation. The tactic divides Republicans and sets up a confrontation with GOP Senate colleagues, who are expected to scuttle the measure.
It's also a largely symbolic effort that will, in the end, not amount to much besides giving House Republicans something to point to down the road, when they go home to their districts. They're probably counting on the fact that, while some of their constituents will be angry that Obama's executive action survived, others will give conservative lawmakers an "A" for effort.
Second, the Republican establishment and other moderates -- both in Washington and at the state level -- are determined to win back Hispanic support and not further antagonize or alienate those voters, unless the GOP wants to turn up DOA in the next several presidential elections.
Republicans don't have to turn themselves inside out, but they need to deal with immigration with more honesty, nuance and common sense.
They should stop attacking immigrants because they're frustrated by the government's response to illegal immigration. And they should pick on people their own size by going after employers. Finally, they need to adopt a zero tolerance policy the next time a Republican official says something racist or nativist. Too many Republicans are cowards when it comes to acknowledging the role that ethnicity plays in the current anxiety that many Americans feel about managing immigration and securing the borders.
And third, according to polls, nearly 90% of Hispanic voters support Obama's executive action and about 80% of Hispanic voters say the GOP should not interfere with it, which sets up the possibility that Hispanics will punish Republicans if they continue to try to dismantle the policy.
This doesn't mean that all or even most Hispanics want open borders. It's hard to make that argument given that, at the moment, most Border Patrol agents are Hispanic.
But what I hear from Hispanics is that while they're fed up with how both parties play politics with the immigration issue, they're really furious at Republicans for that party's efforts to demagogue this issue in order to scare up votes from white people.
Hispanics say they want employers punished and not just the immigrants who can't defend themselves. And they tell me despite Republicans denying that race and ethnicity are factors in the debate, they don't believe for one minute that Americans would be this shook up if the majority of illegal immigrants were coming from Canada, Sweden or Great Britain instead of Mexico, El Salvador and Guatemala.
So how do Republicans placate those right-wing elements of their base and undo Obama's executive action on immigration without further enraging Hispanics? It won't be easy. Payback can be brutal. And while some political parties never learn, Hispanics never forget.
Republicans could stubbornly decide that they don't need Hispanic support in 2016 and beyond, and so they don't have to worry about alienating them. Or they could roll the dice and count on the assumption that -- despite what the polls say -- not all Hispanics support Obama's executive action because they oppose illegal immigration as much as other Americans.
For now, Republicans seem to be going down a third road and simply ignoring the practical impact that their attempted rollback of Obama's executive action would have on the millions of illegal immigrants who -- if the GOP were successful -- would suddenly be, once again, eligible for deportation. Republicans don't want those people to be the focus of this discussion, and they'd prefer the attention to be on the validity of executive action itself. That is where they're shifting the conversation.
That's a weak attempt to dodge the issue. Hispanics are closer to this issue than other Americans because more of them have first-hand contact with illegal immigrants. They know this debate isn't some abstract discussion of competing priorities. They know it's about people and detached politicians deciding who stays and who goes.
That sounds like a fun game. Well, next year, Hispanics will get to play. They'll help decide which elected officials stay in office and which ones go home for good.
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Most of us with a brain thought Sarah Palin for VP was a joke, (that McCain already knew he was going to lose, so why not pick a cute caribou Barbie to make the Alaskans happy?) but now these Repulicans actually are scraping the bottom of the barrel, thinking Romney again or and other Bush is a rational choice, (indeed the Republican's "MOST rational" choice?)
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Dems and Comp. Might also want to go back to this....
Inside Obamaâs Sweeping Victory | Pew Research Center
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Ishmael
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There is a short video link. Watch and enjoy Donald Trump blasting Mitt, Bush et al
Trump Blasts Romney, Jeb Bush; 'Seriously Thinking' About Presidential Run - ABC News
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