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Authorities in Switzerland have given their Tanzanian counterparts tough conditions, which should be implemented, before the Swiss could cooperate in tracing the stolen billions allegedly being kept in offshore banks, The Guardian on Sunday has learnt.
According to documents availed to The Guardian on Sunday, one of the conditions is that Tanzanian authority should furnish Switzerland authorities with names of those who stashed the alleged stolen billions into the country’s banks.
Secondly, Tanzanian authorities should also have concrete proof that the billions were fraudulently or corruptly obtained. This includes, among other things; who bribed who, how the bribe was transacted and above all the evidence that shows whether the transaction originated from the alleged oil companies.
In a two-page response filed by the Swiss government to Tanzanian authorities, it is stated clearly that without fulfilling the aforementioned conditions, there would be no cooperation forthcoming from the Swiss – by way of tracing the billions alleged to have been stolen.
The Swiss government’s move comes at a time when the Parliament last week tasked the government to conduct thorough investigation to establish the identity (names) of Tanzanian personalities holding offshore bank accounts and the amounts held.
The major objective of the investigation should be to establish if the opening of the accounts followed proper procedures, and whether the money so stashed accrued legally.
The government agreed to carry out the assignment and report back to the parliament in April following fierce debate over a private motion tabled by Kigoma North MP Zitto Kabwe late Thursday evening in the august House. One of the terms of reference requires the government to report back to Parliament in April next year when, if MPs aren’t satisfied with the findings, then a Select Committee would be formed to carry out the task.
In carrying out the investigation, the government has agreed to use private investigators and other diplomatic means to achieve the desired results. Zitto who said Kenya, France and Senegal succeeded to bring back their stolen billions through such assistance proposed the use of such private investigators.
But the stance taken by the Swiss government casts a large cloud of doubt on whether there would be any breakthrough in tracing the so-called stolen billions of shillings.
Neither the government of Tanzania nor the opposition lawmaker, Zitto Kabwe, have the full list of the Tanzanians who have kept their billions in Swiss banks, according to details gathered by the Guardian on Sunday for the past few weeks.
In its letter to the Tanzanian authority, the Swiss government further stated that local banks handle millions of customers -- including foreigners -- and it would therefore be baseless to trace the alleged looted billions without having enough details of those suspected.
The Swiss authority also added that the much-publicized disclosure of amount of millions of dollars kept in its banks was just an annual report by its own Central Bank, which shows the amount every country has banked there.
The Central Bank’s annual report doesn’t name individuals or their bank account details and therefore cannot be taken as enough evidence to trace the money allegedly stolen from Tanzania.
Contacted by the Guardian on Sunday, this week, the Director General of Prevention and Combating of Corruption, Dr Edward Hosea said, “I would like to urge any individual including Honourable Zitto who have evidence to give us the names so that we can trace the allegedly billions in Swiss banks.”
“So far we have tried very hard since August, this year, but what is missing is the exact list of those who stashed their billions.” Dr Hosea added
“As a chief investigator I need concrete evidence to confront the Swiss authority but without credible proof, it would difficult for us to win this case.” The anti corruption Czar further told the Guardian on Sunday.
In June this year the National Bank of Switzerland released information about various people in the world holding bank accounts in which it was revealed that Tanzanian individuals had stashed away a total of US $196million ( Sh 314 billion ).
However, according to the latest information availed to Zitto on Thursday by his whistle blowers, the amount announced by the National Bank of Switzerland on June is 20 times the exact figure.
Citing an example, Zitto said UBS has 240 officials dealing with Tanzanian individuals transacting with the bank. Each UBS official deals with a Tanzanian individual with not less than US $10million.



SOURCE: GUARDIAN ON SUNDAY
 
Hopless kwani hao ndo wanachunguza watu wetu au? tunawahitaji ili siye tujue huyu ni mwizi au ni halali
 
I expected this kind of responses from Swiss government. Everyone knows how Swiss Government is benefiting from this illegal transactions. They know for sure that the so called their customers have broken our laws, but still protect them!.

We need to seek help from UN
 
nakumbuka thread hii imekwisha jadiliwa hapa jf jana kama sikosei
 
Mimi sijaona ugumu wowote, as long as nia ipo! Zitto amedai kuwa na majina,kwa hiyo aya-release! Hata kama hana Serikali haina mkono mfupi kiasi cha kutaka kutafuniwa kila kitu!
 
This looks lilke the end of the movie. who is going to provide the needed proof / evidence to swiss government/banks. I dont see any among the top government brass. We have lost both our time and money. The only option remaining is to mention to the public the thieves.
 
Mimi sijaona ugumu wowote, as long as nia ipo! Zitto amedai kuwa na majina,kwa hiyo aya-release! Hata kama hana Serikali haina mkono mfupi kiasi cha kutaka kutafuniwa kila kitu!

Serikali ipi hiyo unayoizungumzia ndugu yangu? Ni kweli hufahamu kuwa watuhumiwa wengi hapo ni viongozi wa serikali unayoisema? Kwao masharti hayo ni ahueni kwao, ila nadhani ukweli utajulikana tu hata kama utachelewa lakini hawatatoka. Mimi nadhani hapo kuna sababu za kutumia ma private investigators issue itakuwa rahisi sana. Ukitegemea serikali hii hii ifanye kazi ya kujidhalilisha utakuwa unapoteza muda wako bure kujidanganya.
 
Mi ninachoshauri kaulizeni pesa za rada zimeishia wapi kwanza kabla ya kuja kurumbana na uswiss
kingine waliosababisha kuibwa pesa za rada wapo wanajulikana na wanazidi kupata vyeo ccm sasa hao wa uswiss mnahisi mtawafanya nini mkijua
 
Authorities in Switzerland have given their Tanzanian counterparts tough conditions, which should be implemented, before the Swiss could cooperate in tracing the stolen billions allegedly being kept in offshore banks, The Guardian on Sunday has learnt.
According to documents availed to The Guardian on Sunday, one of the conditions is that Tanzanian authority should furnish Switzerland authorities with names of those who stashed the alleged stolen billions into the country’s banks.
Secondly, Tanzanian authorities should also have concrete proof that the billions were fraudulently or corruptly obtained. This includes, among other things; who bribed who, how the bribe was transacted and above all the evidence that shows whether the transaction originated from the alleged oil companies.
In a two-page response filed by the Swiss government to Tanzanian authorities, it is stated clearly that without fulfilling the aforementioned conditions, there would be no cooperation forthcoming from the Swiss – by way of tracing the billions alleged to have been stolen.
The Swiss government’s move comes at a time when the Parliament last week tasked the government to conduct thorough investigation to establish the identity (names) of Tanzanian personalities holding offshore bank accounts and the amounts held.

The major objective of the investigation should be to establish if the opening of the accounts followed proper procedures, and whether the money so stashed accrued legally.


“So far we have tried very hard since August, this year, but what is missing is the exact list of those who stashed their billions.” Dr Hosea added
“As a chief investigator I need concrete evidence to confront the Swiss authority but without credible proof, it would difficult for us to win this case.” The anti corruption Czar further told the Guardian on Sunday.


Hizi ndiyo hadithi za darasa la tatu aunimekosea kusoma na kuelewa kivingine!

Zitto alidokeza kuwa kuna Sheria na Kanuni ambayo lazima mtanzania atimize kabla ya kuwa na Fedha /acc benki za nje.

Hivyo Hosea atutajie ni wangapi wamepitia mfumo huu au kutimiza masharti hayo kwa maana ya kuwa na akaunti halali Uswisi na mpaka sasa akaunti husika inakiasi gani na kama kiasi hicho cha fedha kinaendana sawa na kilichotolewa taarifa na benki kuu ya Uswisi.

Nje ya hapo maelezo yake bado hayana maana na yanabaki kuwa hadithi tulizozoea.

Lakini hiyo nayo haitoshi hata hao ambao watakuwa na akaunti halali tunataka kujua kama wamelipa kodi na pia kama fedha hizi zimetokana na Biashara halali.

Mwisho wa yote na kwa Uhakika chini ya Hosea huyu hakuna chochote na nikupoteza Pesa za walipa Kodi.

Mifano ni mingi na kwa kweli huhitaji elimu hata ya Darasa sa saba kung'amua kuwa hapa hakuna kitu na hana Moral ya kiutendaji.http://www.dailynews.co.tz/index.ph...s-involved-in-bae-radar-scandal-says-official


 
Sasa mkuu hii serikali ya Uswiswi itakuwa imetutendea haki kweli? Mkuu umenichekesha na hiyo heading yako! Eti USWISWI
 
panya amfunge kengere paka,wajinga tutaendelea kuliwa mpaka basi
Authorities in Switzerland
have given their Tanzanian counterparts tough conditions, which should
be implemented, before the Swiss could cooperate in tracing the stolen
billions allegedly being kept in offshore banks, The Guardian on Sunday
has learnt.
According to documents availed to The Guardian on Sunday, one of the
conditions is that Tanzanian authority should furnish Switzerland
authorities with names of those who stashed the alleged stolen billions
into the country’s banks.
Secondly, Tanzanian authorities should also have
concrete proof that the billions were fraudulently or corruptly
obtained. This includes, among other things; who bribed who, how the
bribe was transacted and above all the evidence that shows whether the
transaction originated from the alleged oil companies.

In a two-page response filed by the Swiss government
to Tanzanian authorities, it is stated clearly that without fulfilling
the aforementioned conditions, there would be no cooperation forthcoming
from the Swiss – by way of tracing the billions alleged to have been
stolen.

The Swiss government’s move comes at a time when the
Parliament last week tasked the government to conduct thorough
investigation to establish the identity (names) of Tanzanian
personalities holding offshore bank accounts and the amounts
held.

The major objective of the investigation should be to establish if the
opening of the accounts followed proper procedures, and whether the
money so stashed accrued legally.
The government agreed to carry out the assignment and report back to the
parliament in April following fierce debate over a private motion
tabled by Kigoma North MP Zitto Kabwe late Thursday evening in the
august House. One of the terms of reference requires the government to
report back to Parliament in April next year when, if MPs aren’t
satisfied with the findings, then a Select Committee would be formed to
carry out the task.
In carrying out the investigation, the government has agreed to use
private investigators and other diplomatic means to achieve the desired
results. Zitto who said Kenya, France and Senegal succeeded to bring
back their stolen billions through such assistance proposed the use of
such private investigators.
But the stance taken by the Swiss government casts a large cloud of
doubt on whether there would be any breakthrough in tracing the
so-called stolen billions of shillings.
Neither the government of Tanzania nor the opposition lawmaker, Zitto
Kabwe, have the full list of the Tanzanians who have kept their billions
in Swiss banks, according to details gathered by the Guardian on Sunday
for the past few weeks.
In its letter to the Tanzanian authority, the Swiss government further
stated that local banks handle millions of customers -- including
foreigners -- and it would therefore be baseless to trace the alleged
looted billions without having enough details of those suspected.
The Swiss authority also added that the much-publicized disclosure of
amount of millions of dollars kept in its banks was just an annual
report by its own Central Bank, which shows the amount every country has
banked there.
The Central Bank’s annual report doesn’t name individuals or their bank
account details and therefore cannot be taken as enough evidence to
trace the money allegedly stolen from Tanzania.
Contacted by the Guardian on Sunday, this week, the Director General of
Prevention and Combating of Corruption, Dr Edward Hosea said, “I would
like to urge any individual including Honourable Zitto who have evidence
to give us the names so that we can trace the allegedly billions in
Swiss banks.”
“So far we have tried very hard since August, this year, but what is
missing is the exact list of those who stashed their billions.” Dr Hosea
added
“As a chief investigator I need concrete evidence to confront the Swiss
authority but without credible proof, it would difficult for us to win
this case.” The anti corruption Czar further told the Guardian on
Sunday.
In June this year the National Bank of Switzerland released information
about various people in the world holding bank accounts in which it was
revealed that Tanzanian individuals had stashed away a total of US
$196million ( Sh 314 billion ).
However, according to the latest information availed to Zitto on
Thursday by his whistle blowers, the amount announced by the National
Bank of Switzerland on June is 20 times the exact figure.
Citing an example, Zitto said UBS has 240 officials dealing with
Tanzanian individuals transacting with the bank. Each UBS official deals
with a Tanzanian individual with not less than US $10million.



SOURCE: GUARDIAN ON SUNDAY
 
Duh,hii serikali bwana!Hapa ndio napata mantiki ya Mkuchika kuwataka wananchi wenye taarifa ya watu wenye fedha nje wapeleke serikalini nayo itawashughulikia bila kujali cheo,kumbe ni danganya toto ili aje navisingizio kuwa Uswisi imeweka masharti magumu!Eti Hosea naye kajitutumua leo kuwa na ubavu wa kuwakamata wenye fedha za Uswisi
 
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