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NiliyegemeaMwandishi kasikia sikia hbr hii kakimbilia kuja kuipost hata yeye mwenyewe haielew. ETI BANKS ZINACHAPA PESA? HALAF HAELEWI KUWA KUANZISHA BANK KUNAHITAJ MTAJI AU UWEKEZAJI. mwandishi hafaham na ndo maana haeleweki. Bank zingekuwa zinachapa pesa basi zisingefilisika. Na pesa zingekuwa nying sana. Haelewi anazungumzia nini.
Mkuu nimetoa ushahidi wa wazi wa Federal Reserve.Matatizo yetu Watanzania ni kuendelea starehe bila kupenda kujisomea, eventually tunakuwa na very shallow knowledge kuhusu issues.Worse still we think what we are taught in school is correct.Believe me most of it is rubbish. Tumeingizwa mkenge sana.Some of us are just trying to open your eyes,lakini kwa kuwa mnashupaza shingo chapweni.Mwandishi kasikia sikia hbr hii kakimbilia kuja kuipost hata yeye mwenyewe haielew. ETI BANKS ZINACHAPA PESA? HALAF HAELEWI KUWA KUANZISHA BANK KUNAHITAJ MTAJI AU UWEKEZAJI. mwandishi hafaham na ndo maana haeleweki. Bank zingekuwa zinachapa pesa basi zisingefilisika. Na pesa zingekuwa nying sana. Haelewi anazungumzia nini.
Mkuu Nilitegemea madongo kuhusiana na mada hii hasa kwa watu wa banks.Mada hii narudia ni taboo!Nilichoandika hapa ni kweli na nilishasema wengi wanafumbia macho kwa kuwa wana maslahi huko.Na wewe inawezekana una maslahi huko. Kama hata Marais wa Marekani wanakiri kwamba this is true, who are you to deny this truth. Ni ajabu sana.1.Maana tukikwambia ni conspiracy theories umeishia sema watawala wa dunia wananitumia kwa kujua au kutokujua --- kwangu hili ni swala la kiimani zaidi.
2. Umelalamika sana kwa swala la mabenki in general na hakuna mahali katika bango lako la awali ulisema swala la uchapishaji wa fedha ni kwa nchi fulani na uzitaje majina na kuiondoa Tz. Ulichofanya ni kujumuisha, tukahoji ukatuambia wewe huzungumzii mambo haya katika upeo mdogo bali mfumo wa kibenki duniani.
3. Umekuja na vitu unavyo viita reference ambavyo kiuhalisia sio. Unasema nenda kagoogle neno flani, yakija mia nasoma lipi?. Wewe umesoma yote na kuyajengea hoja hapa?. Je ni kwa nini hutoi links za webs kama unavyoombwa?. Kile unacho kuamini wewe unataka sisi ndicho tukiamini, tukikupa links unasema hao hawawezi sema ukweli, hao wewe ulikosoma ambazo sio taasisi husika unaamini vipi na unajiridhisha vipi kama ni kweli?.
Je swala hili sio la kiimani mkuu?. Unataaluma yoyote ya mambo ya kibenki na fedha au maswala ya uchambuzi wa mambo?. Au ndiyo kusema sisi tusio amini ulicho tuandikia ndiyo bongo zetu zimekwisha safishwa?, au tunatumika kama usemavyo?
Unapata ukakasi kwa kuwa issue hii ni taboo.Mfumo unaoitawala dunia umetuaminisha kwamba serikali zote za dunia zinachapa fedha zao,lakini si kweli.
Nina hakika hujui kwamba hata hiyo bank note inayokuwa issued na Bank yako ni fake,lakini huo ndio ukweli!Na Nina hakika pia hujui kwamba hizi bank notes zinapaswa kuwa only receipts received after depositing an equally valued amount of gold and silver and not money!Hivi mkuu unajua kwamba a bank note is paper like any other paper! Pole.oky kuna vitu nimejaribu ku generalize. kwanza ifahamike kwamba kila benki ina utaratibu wake katika utoaji wa mikopo, mfano benki nyingine zina compulsory sarving na zingine hazina. Valuation na search pia hutofautiana ktk mabenki au taasisi za kifedha pia hivi vitu hutegemea na nyaraka za mkopaji na kiwango anachoomba. nirudi kwwnye masuli
1. Processing fees/app fee hizi ni gharama za kushughulikia ombi la mkopo ( ufatiliaji, ukusanyaji wa taarifa kutoka kwa mteja, uchanganuzi wa taarifa za mteja, uaandaaji wa nyaraka mblmbali)
2. loan insurance hii ni kwa ajili ya mkopo uliotolewa kwa mteja pindi ikitokea janga kwa mteja ambalo huweza kupelekea mteja kushidwa kulipa mkopo basi kuna asilimia ambayo hutegwa kwa ajili hio either na benki yenyewe au third part( insurance company) kuongezea hapo kuna life insurance hii ni endapo ikitokea mteja akifa hawezi kudaiwa mkopo aliokopa bali ile asilimia ya mkopo wake aliochajiwa ndio ita cover risk
3. Compulsory sarving ( kiwango cha lazima cha fedha ambacho kinatakiwa kibaki au kiwekwe na mteja kabla ya kupewa mkopo) hapa mabenki hutofautiana kwa aina tatu, kuna wanaotaka cumpulsory sarving iwekwe na mteja kabl hajapewa mkopo, kuna wanaomkata mteja kwenye kiwango cha mkopo alichoomba, kuna ambao hawataki.
4. Valuation na Search, kwanza inategemea na nyaraka za mteja alizokua nazo pia kiwango cha pesa anachoomba. Hili hufanywa ili kujua thamani yana uhakiki wa mali iliyowekwa (dhamana ya mteja) kwa ajili ya kuchukulia mkopo Mabenki yanatofautiana sana kwenye hili swala na ni pana kidogo. hizi ni direct cost mteja atakazolipa kwa benki au third part.
Uwizi/unyonyaji unakuja wp
1. Processing fee mf 5% ya mkopo uliomba huo ni unyonyaji live
2. Upande wa insurance sitapenda kuongelea sana maana ni ulinzi kwa both part (benki na mteja)
3. Valuation na search ( hapa kuna uwizi wa kiaina)
4.Cumpulsory sarving napo kuna janja janja hapo kwani hutegemea nyaraka za mali( collateral) alizotoa mteja kwa mkopo
NB:Nini lengo la kuchaji sustainable Interest Rate SIR
Hapo sijagusa riba ambapo ndo hapo watu wnapoliwa zaidi
Hii inaonyesha mkuu kwamba you do not know what is going on. I thought you would read between the lines. Bank nyingi zinachapishiwa fedha zao Uingereza.Je unajua anayechapa huko ni nani na kuna makubaliano gani?Seated in Lilongwe kwa mfano Mmalawi anaambiwa Bank of Malawi inachapa fedha,but the money is printed in London!Mkuu can't you see the discrepancy.Huhitaji alot of brain to make sense out of it all.Nilitaka kupita kimya ila umelilazimisha kukuuliza swali.
Hivi kila bank ikiwa na Uhuru was kuchapisha pesa unazani nini kitatokea?
Mkuu unataka kuniambia Marais wa Marekani hawajui kinachoendelea Marekani,nakushangaa.But why are you denying plain truth.Basi naona tunatofautiana kile tunaamini mkuu. Unaamini katika conspiracy theories without questioning. Wengine tunazisoma na kujaribu pia compare na other sources then tunaamini kwa namna hiyo. So kama feds bank hawajasema usemalo wewe, wewe una uhakika gani na usemacho?. Kumbuka wewe sio mfanyakazi wala founder wa hizo banks.
Kinyume na hapo utuambie hili ni swala la kiimani mkuu.
Asante mkuu.Wana macho lakini hawaoni,wana masikio lakini hawasikii."I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies...
If the american people will ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency... the banks and corporations that will grow around them will deprive the people of their own property until their children wake up homeless in the continent their fathers conquered"
~ Thomas jefferson
1743-1826
"If you want to remain slave of the bankers and pay for the costs of your own slavery, let them continue create money and control the nation's credit"
~ sir josiah stamp
1880-1941
Mbona unakataa bandiko lako??. Umesema benki zina leseni yakuchapisha pesa bila kuzifanyia kazi (wezi).Hii inaonyesha mkuu kwamba you do not know what is going on. I thought you would read between the lines. Bank nyingi zinachapishiwa fedha zao Uingereza.Je unajua anayechapa huko ni nani na kuna makubaliano gani?Seated in Lilongwe kwa mfano Mmalawi anaambiwa Bank of Malawi inachapa fedha,but the money is printed in London!Mkuu can't you see the discrepancy.Huhitaji alot of brain to make sense out of it all.
Kama nimekosea kutafsiri mahali wewe rekebisha basi,sasa mbona hakuna input uliyoweka mkuu. Sana sana umewafurahisha tu wachangiaji wa bank,ambao ukweli huu kwao ni mchungu sana.Wakuu,
Mimi naona hapa aliyeanzisha uzi, makala hii ilikuwa ktk lugha ya kigeni na usipokuwa makini ukifanya tafsiri ya Kiswahili unapoteza maana na dhima nzima ya makala hii iliyokuwa ktk lugha ya kigeni.
Pia bank financial management (banking finance) ni utalaamu unaoupata kwa kusomea au kufanya kazi kwa muda mrefu ktk taasisi za kifedha na mabenki huku ukipata mafunzo kazini.
Sasa Mdau areafiftyone pamoja na nia yake nzuri ya kufanya tafsiri toka kugha ya kigeni kuja Kiswahili ktk uzi wake ametuchanganya na kuzua maswali mengi sana. Kufanya tafsiri inatakiwa kutulia na kuchukua muda pamoja na kuwa na uelewa wa kitaalamu ili tafsiri isipoteze maana ya makala halisi hasa ikiwa ni makala za utaalamu kama hii ili wasomaji waelewe tunachowasilisha.
Akili za panzi hizi. Kama hawakuchapa Bank of Malawi wakachapa Bank of England si mfumo huo huo wa bank! Wake up Mtanzania.Who owns the Bank of Malawi and the Bank of England! Blind indeed.Mbona unakataa bandiko lako??. Umesema benki zina leseni yakuchapisha pesa bila kuzifanyia kazi (wezi).
Huku kenye majibu unasema zinachapishiwa.
Sasa tujadili leseni ya kuchapisha au kuchapishiwa?????!.
Umeshawahi kusikia juu ya mchezo wa madogori?Piga picha jinsi unavyoendeshwa unapata jibu.There is nothing scientific about banking, ni mchezo tu " watoto wa mjini"Mtoa mada bila shaka anamatatizo anatoa mada asio ielewa.kwanza haiwezekani bank kuchapa pesa haita kuja tokea na kanuni za mafanikio ili upige hatua angalau kwa kasi lazima ukope muulize mengi baharesa matajiri wote duniani karibu walikopa ndio leo tunawaona matajiri tatizo wengi huzilaumu bank kwa kua tunaingia kukopa wakati mifumo yetu haiko vizuri binafs bank imenisogeza sana tena sana labda afafanue vizuri anamaana gani mtoa mada.
Muulize mtoa mada mm nimetoa mchango wangu kuhusiana na mambo ya mikopo, uzi sio wng usiniletee nyenyenyee ambayo sijaiongelea mmNina hakika hujui kwamba hata hiyo bank note inayokuwa issued na Bank yako ni fake,lakini huo ndio ukweli!Na Nina hakika pia hujui kwamba hizi bank notes zinapaswa kuwa only receipts received after depositing an equally valued amount of gold and silver and not money!Hivi mkuu unajua kwamba a bank note is paper like any other paper! Pole.
Akili za panzi hizi. Kama hawakuchapa Bank of Malawi wakachapa Bank of England si mfumo huo huo wa bank! Wake up Mtanzania.Who owns the Bank of Malawi and the Bank of England! Blind indeed.
Sijazungumzia Tanzania mkuu,nimezungumzia bank kubwa ambazo zina impact kwenye agendas za dunia kama China Construction Bank, Wells Fargo & Co., HSBC Holdings,JP Morgan Chase, CitiGroup, Bank of America,Morgan Stanley, Standard Chartered,UBS,Barklays, nk.sio vibenki kama Umoja, NBC nk.Alafu mkuu kua makini, hii serikali ya mitandaoni hawakawii kukuleta pale kati udhibitishe haya madai
Mkuu sidhani kama ni busara kumwambia mwenzako ana akili za panzi. Labda kuna jambo moja ambalo unapaswa kujua. Serikali ya Tanzania kwa hapa kwetu ndiyo yenye mamlaka kupitia BoT ya kuchapisha fedha.Akili za panzi hizi. Kama hawakuchapa Bank of Malawi wakachapa Bank of England si mfumo huo huo wa bank! Wake up Mtanzania.Who owns the Bank of Malawi and the Bank of England! Blind indeed.
Something is wrong somewhere. Hivi ni nani asiyejua kuwa kuna maswala ya Gold reserve kwa kila Central bank in relation to banking industry?.Sijazungumzia Tanzania mkuu,nimezungumzia bank kubwa ambazo zina impact kwenye agendas za dunia kama Goldman Sachs, Barklays,Chase Manhattan nk.sio vibenki kama Umoja NBC nk.
Kwa hiyo mkuu unachotaka kutushauri kuhusu yanayofundishwa darasani ni nini?. Unataka tuambia kuwa formal education ni uongo mtupu?. Tugeukie kwenye aina ipi ya elimu?.Niliyegemea
Mkuu nimetoa ushahidi wa wazi wa Federal Reserve.Matatizo yetu Watanzania ni kuendelea starehe bila kupenda kujisomea, eventually tunakuwa na very shallow knowledge kuhusu issues.Worse still we think what we are taught in school is correct.Believe me most of it is rubbish. Tumeingizwa mkenge sana.Some of us are just trying to open your eyes,lakini kwa kuwa mnashupaza shingo chapweni.