Is God fair ?

[Kiranga]

Ingekuwa ni kweli kuwa mavi ni sehemu ya Asili kama unavyodai, basi hata msumali mmoja ni sehemu ya dirisha, so unataka tuite huo msumali ni dirisha?

Hatuhitaji kurudia tafsiri ya neno ASILI.
Anaita sasa!

Kwa joyo mali si sehemu ya asili na wala msumali si sehemu ya dirisha?

 

[a4afrika]

At one point they will define god as an abstract (gravity, dark matter, etc) and at one point they will define that god as a physical being. Either they enjoy contradicting themselves or they have failed to define god.

Makes you wonder how can gravity, dark matter, nature be a he-man.

Ni kina nani hao?

Pia si vyema kupotosha watu, Nature na Gravity ni vitu viwili tofauti. Force of Gravity ni Natural, resulted from NATURE! Tunachoita Mungu ni NATURE, si forces zake wala laws zake na kwazo ulimwengu ulifanyika.
Kumuita he/Man/etc hakuthiri chochote si uwepo wake, nafasi yake wala ukuu wake(mengine ni athari za kitamaduni tu), ni kwa kuwa Mungu anaheshimiwa na kufuatwa kwa vitendo, do not violet the nature, it will keep you safe!

Kama unatambua uwepo wa NATURE basi ujue unatambua uwepo wa Mungu wangu! Na Nature is Fair! Tambueni kwanza uwepo wake tuwafundishe Ukuu wake!
Anaita sasa!

 

[a4afrika]

Kwa joyo mali si sehemu ya asili na wala msumali si sehemu ya dirisha?

Wewe umedai kuwa mavi ni sehemu ya asili ambayo mimi naiita Mungu, ukauliza je Mavi ni Mungu?

Nami nimekuuliza, tofali moja ni sehemu ya nyumba, je ni sahihi kuliita hilo tofali 'nyumba'? Usichoelewa kipi?

Hatahivyo, mavi ni matokeo tu ya ASILI, si sehemu ya asili. Labda nieleweshe 'sehemu ya' ina maana gani. Ninavyoelewa mimi kitu 'sehemu ya' uwepo wake una athari za moja kwa moja kwa ukamilifu wa sehemu kuu.. Hakuna kitu chochote kinachoweza kuathiri ukamilifu wa Nature, inapofuatwa au kukiukwa ita-react accordingly!
Anaita sasa!

 

[Kiranga]

Wewe umedai kuwa mavi ni sehemu ya asili ambayo mimi naiita Mungu, ukauliza je Mavi ni Mungu?

Nami nimekuuliza, tofali moja ni sehemu ya nyumba, je ni sahihi kuliita hilo tofali 'nyumba'? Usichoelewa kipi?

Hatahivyo, mavi ni matokeo tu ya ASILI, si sehemu ya asili. Labda nieleweshe 'sehemu ya' ina maana gani. Ninavyoelewa mimi kitu 'sehemu ya' uwepo wake una athari za moja kwa moja kwa ukamilifu wa sehemu kuu.. Hakuna kitu chochote kinachoweza kuathiri ukamilifu wa Nature, inapofuatwa au kukiukwa ita-react accordingly!
Anaita sasa!

Mungu wako ndiye huyu omnipotent, omniscient, omni benevolent?

 

[MSHERWAMPAMBA]

What kind of GOD you guys are you discussing about,God of the Israelis or God of the moslems or your God of the christians?.I know for sure the God i am worshiping is not a boogey man,he is really and infinitiy.Somebody just suggested that God is a boogey man,that is a pure joke and it is a big kuffru to equate God and thhe boogey man,guys you need to be very sensitive when comes to faith and religions ,this is not a joking matter.M/Mpamba.

 

[Nonda]

Mungu wako ndiye huyu omnipotent, omniscient, omni benevolent?

Link Grad Resources: Issues

Link The Institute for Creation Research

Link Where did the universe come from?

Link https://medium.com/the-physics-arxi...ormed-spontaneously-from-nothing-ed7ed0f304a3

 

[Kiranga]

Link Grad Resources: Issues

Link The Institute for Creation Research

Link Where did the universe come from?

Link https://medium.com/the-physics-arxi...ormed-spontaneously-from-nothing-ed7ed0f304a3

Jibi maswali kwanza.

Link zako zina kwashiokor ya fikra.

 

[a4afrika]

Mungu wako ndiye huyu omnipotent, omniscient, omni benevolent?

Ndio maana niliwahi kuwaambia muwe mnajua mnachojengea hoja, kabla hajawa omniscient, omnibenevotent wala omnipresent, HE/IT/SHE IS THE CREATOR OF UNIVERSE! The Creator is Nature, we call it God, kama unatambua uwepo wa NATURE kama source ya ulimwengu, basi tamka kutambua hilo, then tutaenda hatua inayofuata, yaani kuhoji 'Is the creator/nature sometimes God omniscient, omn...etc?
Anaita sasa!

 

[Kiranga]

Ndio maana niliwahi kuwaambia muwe mnajua mnachojengea hoja, kabla hajawa omniscient, omnibenevotent wala omnipresent, HE/IT/SHE IS THE CREATOR OF UNIVERSE! The Creator is Nature, we call it God, kama unatambua uwepo wa NATURE kama source ya ulimwengu, basi tamka kutambua hilo, then tutaenda hatua inayofuata, yaani kuhoji 'Is the creator/nature sometimes God omniscient, omn...etc?
Anaita sasa!

Hujajibu swali.

 

[a4afrika]

Hujajibu swali.

Njema, na iwe hivyo. Nitakujibu.
The Creator/God/Nature ni yenye Upendo, Kudra, Uwezo wote na Kupatikana kila mahali!
Je unataka kujua how?
Anaita sasa!

 

[Kiranga]

Njema, na iwe hivyo. Nitakujibu.
The Creator/God/Nature ni yenye Upendo, Kudra, Uwezo wote na Kupatikana kila mahali!
Je unataka kujua how?
Anaita sasa!

Kabla ya kwenda kwenye how.

Imekuwaje huyo mungu wako wa nature mwenye uwezo wote na ujuzi wote akaumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya yanawezekana?

 

[bona]

if God exist and he did made this world with all these suffering,volcanos, disease, hunger, calamaties, earth quake, crony capitalism, brutal wars, greedy peoples etc at least we can fairly agree he is either incompetent or he just doesn't care!!!

 

[La Princesa]

if God exist and he did made this world with all these suffering,volcanos, disease, hunger, calamaties, earth quake, crony capitalism, brutal wars, greedy peoples etc at least we can fairly agree he is either incompetent or he just doesn't care!!!

He does care.....what confuses me is''He's mighty and he can do anything..why dd he allow Satan to move on with his life?
2: Why did he put the tree of good and evil in the garden of Eden?

 

[GAUTAMA]

The fact that our knowledge of science cannot give all answer does not mean science does not have answers and god is the answer.

The fact that my knowledge of mathematics does not give me the answer to the square root of two does not mean mathematics does not have that answer and the answer is an undefined singularity.

What is important than whether science has all the answers today is the methodical and open to review convergence it provides. A religious belief in a godhead does not give you that room for review.

I am not sure how much of this can be immediately clear if you have not done the requisite homework, and even if you have there is always the pitfall of cognitive dissonance, or sheer intellectual laziness.

I think for, therefore I am thinking, installing doubts to anything and not stucking in the one hole...

 

[sha]

wakati unapitia matatizo ili hali unashika sheria za mungu ipasavyo tena unafanya jitihada za dhati kujikwamua katika tatizo hilo bila.mafanikio ni ngumu sana kumuaminisha mtu kwa kumshauri kwa maneno kirahisi rahis kuwa "mshirikishe/ mtumainie mungu""

jamani is not simple as you think trust me!!!

Ukiwa na hela au usipokuwa na shida ya maisha si rahisi kuwa karibu na aliyenashida labda kwa unafki tu inawezekana.

Sometimes i do agree with you lp that god is not fair. Nimesema hivi makusudi kabisa kwasababu sipendi unafki.

very fair, kama kuna mdemocrasia, hakuna kama umungu amekupa uhuru wote wa kuchagua, la msingi tubu dhambi zako kwa kumaanisha kuacha ,kisha mpokee yesu awe bwana na kiongoizi wa maisha yako,atakupa uweza wa kuweza yote, usihangaike hata bila hiv kumbuka bado siku moja ungekufa tu,hivyo muhimu si maisha ya hapa duniani bali roho yako itakapomrudia aliyeifanya.

 

[Mr. Mangi]

Inashangaza wanaofanya umalaya hawapati hata upele lakin uliyekuwa umejitunza unapoingia mzigon unatoka na ngoma inauma ila tatizo ni kwamba ulipokuwa umetulia na kujitunza ulifanya hivyo kwa kumuogopa Mungu ama ni kwasababu zako binafsi? Ama ulipoingia kwenye mahusiano yalikuwa halali ama ulimshirikisha Mungu. Ila lazima tukubali Mungu hamuonei mtu yeyote and he is fair 4 eachone ila ni tamaa zetu za mwili ndo zinatumaliza hivyo lazima kumshirikisha Mungu kwa kila jambo ili atuokoe

 

[Mr. Mangi]

What kind of GOD you guys are you discussing about,God of the Israelis or God of the moslems or your God of the christians?.I know for sure the God i am worshiping is not a boogey man,he is really and infinitiy.Somebody just suggested that God is a boogey man,that is a pure joke and it is a big kuffru to equate God and thhe boogey man,guys you need to be very sensitive when comes to faith and religions ,this is not a joking matter.M/Mpamba.

there as only and one God though we differ in worship him

 

[Mr. Mangi]

if God exist and he did made this world with all these suffering,volcanos, disease, hunger, calamaties, earth quake, crony capitalism, brutal wars, greedy peoples etc at least we can fairly agree he is either incompetent or he just doesn't care!!!

at first in Eden there was no such calamities but all of this diasters it's a result of Adam sin against God and what happen now is the fulfilment of the God promise that we will surely die but for his mercy he sent his own son for anyone who shall believe in him he/she will be served from the satan hand and shall be granted eternal life that is evalasting life as Jesus die on the cross for us

 

[Mr. Mangi]

He does care.....what confuses me is''He's mighty and he can do anything..why dd he allow Satan to move on with his life?
2: Why did he put the tree of good and evil in the garden of Eden?

you know that satan will not last forever his end will come and i know kamruhusu kuendelea kuishi ila muda wake uliobakia ni mchache kwan ataangamizwa pamoja na wafuasi wake ktk ziwa la moto. Ila namba 2 hata mi najiuliza kwann amruhusu shetan awajaribu adam na hawa? Mungu anajua kitu kabla hakijatendeka kwann asiwasaidie kutoka ktk mtego wa nyoka, kwann ampe uwezo wa kwenda pale Eden kwann asitupwe hata mbali kwenye sayar nyingine

 

[Mr. Mangi]

very fair, kama kuna mdemocrasia, hakuna kama umungu amekupa uhuru wote wa kuchagua, la msingi tubu dhambi zako kwa kumaanisha kuacha ,kisha mpokee yesu awe bwana na kiongoizi wa maisha yako,atakupa uweza wa kuweza yote, usihangaike hata bila hiv kumbuka bado siku moja ungekufa tu,hivyo muhimu si maisha ya hapa duniani bali roho yako itakapomrudia aliyeifanya.

mkuu umeongea vyema, natumain kila mkristo ana nia ya kuishi maisha ya kitakatifu hapa dunian nikiwemo mim lakin kuna changamoto kubwa