..hivi "Hotel Rwanda" nayo ni sehemu ya genocide denial?
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Genocide ilikuwepo tena walikufa wahutu(moderate)na watutsi pia
..hivi "Hotel Rwanda" nayo ni sehemu ya genocide denial?
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..CONGO GENOCIDE DENIAL..
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I was thinking the same thing. In the past 21 years, Congo has lost millions and the perpetrators are those who cry the victims of genocide.
This is the problem. Looks to me that it is a problem for some to get killed, and ok for others to get killed
Bongolander, naona na wewe sumu ya jMali inaanza kukuingia....kwanza tulishakuambia kuwa interahamwe is an ideology and not a tribe. For all I know jMali could be a Mtutsi or a Mhutu but because of what he espouses that is why i call him an interahamwe. Ugomvi wangu mimi na huyu interahamwe ni mmoja tu, tangu miaka ya 90 amekaa kimya and according to him ameanza kufuatilia masuala ya Rwanda mwaka jana mwanzoni, sasa tujiulize? Kama anavyosema, Kagame ni mbaya ina maana kagame ameaanza kuwa mbaya January ya mwaka jana? BTW January mwaka jana ndio yule shushushu Karegeya alijipiga kitanzi. (coincidence? i don't think so). Sasa na wewe ndugu yangu unaanza kuupotosha uma.According to serikali ya Rwanda YES. Kwa sababu Paul Rusesabagina ni mhutu, and a hutu is supposed to be interhamwe and a killer. Na Hotel Rwanda inakinzana na narrative ya serikali ya Rwanda inayotaka kuaminisha watu kuwa a hutu can not be a savior.Ndio maana Serikali ya Kigali ilijaribu kufanya juhudi kumfikisha Paul mahakamani.
Bongolander, naona na wewe sumu ya jMali inaanza kukuingia....kwanza tulishakuambia kuwa interahamwe is an ideology and not a tribe. For all I know jMali could be a Mtutsi or a Mhutu but because of what he espouses that is why i call him an interahamwe. Ugomvi wangu mimi na huyu interahamwe ni mmoja tu, tangu miaka ya 90 amekaa kimya and according to him ameanza kufuatilia masuala ya Rwanda mwaka jana mwanzoni, sasa tujiulize? Kama anavyosema, Kagame ni mbaya ina maana kagame ameaanza kuwa mbaya January ya mwaka jana? BTW January mwaka jana ndio yule shushushu Karegeya alijipiga kitanzi. (coincidence? i don't think so). Sasa na wewe ndugu yangu unaanza kuupotosha uma.
Hotel Rwanda ni fiction and you and i know that anything comming out of hollywood is a good fiction. They make movies for the mass market and hence they have to glossy it over to creat a hero where none existed. There are more real and unsung heroes who did more than this guy but you don't here them shouting in the media.
Mkuu kwanza utakuwa unaelewa kabisa kuwa i try to look at this this thing in a very objective manner. But no worries, sumu ya chuku haiwezi kuingia kwangu.
Hili la kuwa interhamwe ni ideology kwangu ni somo tayari, did not know, I thought it was something which some politicians made it to appear a hutu thing.
If what we sawa in Hotel Rwanda is true, i can regard Paul as a hero, regardless of what is being said.
Mkuu kwanza utakuwa unaelewa kabisa kuwa i try to look at this this thing in a very objective manner. But no worries, sumu ya chuku haiwezi kuingia kwangu.
Hili la kuwa interhamwe ni ideology kwangu ni somo tayari, did not know, I thought it was something which some politicians made it to appear a hutu thing.
If what we sawa in Hotel Rwanda is true, i can regard Paul as a hero, regardless of what is being said.
Bongolander, naona na wewe sumu ya jMali inaanza kukuingia....kwanza tulishakuambia kuwa interahamwe is an ideology and not a tribe. For all I know jMali could be a Mtutsi or a Mhutu but because of what he espouses that is why i call him an interahamwe. Ugomvi wangu mimi na huyu interahamwe ni mmoja tu, tangu miaka ya 90 amekaa kimya and according to him ameanza kufuatilia masuala ya Rwanda mwaka jana mwanzoni, sasa tujiulize? Kama anavyosema, Kagame ni mbaya ina maana kagame ameaanza kuwa mbaya January ya mwaka jana? BTW January mwaka jana ndio yule shushushu Karegeya alijipiga kitanzi. (coincidence? i don't think so). Sasa na wewe ndugu yangu unaanza kuupotosha uma.
Hotel Rwanda ni fiction and you and i know that anything comming out of hollywood is a good fiction. They make movies for the mass market and hence they have to glossy it over to creat a hero where none existed. There are more real and unsung heroes who did more than this guy but you don't here them shouting in the media.
I take note of your self assured arrogance mchambawima1. I don't see how that definition justifies deliberate exclusion of other victims of the genocide. Do you mean Hutu victims of the genocide do not deserve a mention simply because the genocide was planned and perpetrated by fellow Hutus? That is twisted reasoning or lack of reasoning.hebu pitia hii definition ya Genocide kwanza: It is a crime to plan or incite genocide, even before killing starts, and to aid or abet genocide: Criminal acts include conspiracy, direct and public incitement, attempts to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide.
kama definition bado ngumu kwako kuielewa usiogope kunyoosha kidole juu.
Looks to me like the proponents of genocide denial are avid deniers of facts themselves. So if there are (known) heroes whose heroics are not acknowledged who is to blame? Surely not the genocide deniers.Bongolander, naona na wewe sumu ya jMali inaanza kukuingia....kwanza tulishakuambia kuwa interahamwe is an ideology and not a tribe. For all I know jMali could be a Mtutsi or a Mhutu but because of what he espouses that is why i call him an interahamwe. Ugomvi wangu mimi na huyu interahamwe ni mmoja tu, tangu miaka ya 90 amekaa kimya and according to him ameanza kufuatilia masuala ya Rwanda mwaka jana mwanzoni, sasa tujiulize? Kama anavyosema, Kagame ni mbaya ina maana kagame ameaanza kuwa mbaya January ya mwaka jana? BTW January mwaka jana ndio yule shushushu Karegeya alijipiga kitanzi. (coincidence? i don't think so). Sasa na wewe ndugu yangu unaanza kuupotosha uma.
Hotel Rwanda ni fiction and you and i know that anything comming out of hollywood is a good fiction. They make movies for the mass market and hence they have to glossy it over to creat a hero where none existed. There are more real and unsung heroes who did more than this guy but you don't here them shouting in the media.
I take note of your self assured arrogance mchambawima1. I don't see how that definition justifies deliberate exclusion of other victims of the genocide. Do you mean Hutu victims of the genocide do not deserve a mention simply because the genocide was planned and perpetrated by fellow Hutus? That is twisted reasoning or lack of reasoning.
That's a new one! I can see a new art (or is it a science?), "genocide engineering", emerging.OMG! not at all! take it easy man... it is called the "GENOCIDE AGAINST THE TUTSI DURING WHICH MODERATES HUTU WERE ALSO KILLED" clear? what is not acceptable though is when people say: draw match, every body killed every body and then let's start all over as if a definition & steps of Genocide took place in Rwanda don't exist
That's a new one! I can see a new art (or is it a science?), "genocide engineering", emerging.
Mkuu kwanza utakuwa unaelewa kabisa kuwa i try to look at this this thing in a very objective manner. But no worries, sumu ya chuku haiwezi kuingia kwangu.
Hili la kuwa interhamwe ni ideology kwangu ni somo tayari, did not know, I thought it was something which some politicians made it to appear a hutu thing.
If what we sawa in Hotel Rwanda is true, i can regard Paul as a hero, regardless of what is being said.
Bongolander, naona na wewe sumu ya jMali inaanza kukuingia....kwanza tulishakuambia kuwa interahamwe is an ideology and not a tribe. For all I know jMali could be a Mtutsi or a Mhutu but because of what he espouses that is why i call him an interahamwe. Ugomvi wangu mimi na huyu interahamwe ni mmoja tu, tangu miaka ya 90 amekaa kimya and according to him ameanza kufuatilia masuala ya Rwanda mwaka jana mwanzoni, sasa tujiulize? Kama anavyosema, Kagame ni mbaya ina maana kagame ameaanza kuwa mbaya January ya mwaka jana? BTW January mwaka jana ndio yule shushushu Karegeya alijipiga kitanzi. (coincidence? i don't think so). Sasa na wewe ndugu yangu unaanza kuupotosha uma.
Hotel Rwanda ni fiction and you and i know that anything comming out of hollywood is a good fiction. They make movies for the mass market and hence they have to glossy it over to creat a hero where none existed. There are more real and unsung heroes who did more than this guy but you don't here them shouting in the media.
Bongolander, lets put politics aside natuangalie ukweli..
1.Paul Rusesabagina was a hotel manager alikuwa mfanyakazi, hivi alikuwa na uwezo upi wa kuzuia Interahamwe kuingia hotelini kuua watu waliokuwa wamekimbilia huko?
Huyu alikuwa raia wakawaida tu labda ukisema the fact that he did not participate into killings makes him a hero.
Tunachosema, he was not a hero as it is portrayed by himself.
Kuna raia wengi tu wakawaida wa Kihutu ambao walifanya kazi kubwa sana zaidi yake hawa wapo na baadhi wamepewa shukrani na familia zilizo survive pia wengine wamepewa medals na serikali.
Rusesabagina alitumia popularity ya movie kujiimarisha kisiasa.
OMG! not at all! take it easy man... it is called the "GENOCIDE AGAINST THE TUTSI DURING WHICH MODERATES HUTU WERE ALSO KILLED" clear? what is not acceptable though is when people say: draw match, every body killed every body and then let's start all over as if a definition & steps of Genocide took place in Rwanda don't exist