Gaddafi makes bizarre TV appearance!

[Mallaba]

hebu tukumbushe...alipofika uganda alisemaje? ningependa nifaham mkuu!!!

"Integration is in the interest of Afro-Arab communities," Gaddafi said through an interpreter as he closed the youth conference. "African leadership is paralysed. If we depend on constitutions, we are losing track."
Singling out Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe and host President Yoweri Museveni as the most "visionary" leaders on the continent today, Gaddafi criticised multiparty politics and presidential term limits.
Gaddafi, who has been in power for 39 years, said: "Why should a leader relinquish power when he is doing good things for his people? There are people who talk about term limits. What are they? A constitution is simply a document drafted by people. A leader should only leave power by the will of the people. For example, President Museveni came into power through revolutionary means, not the vote. How can he simply go?"
He added: "If Museveni has the will of the people, he should be re-elected. Museveni came in through revolutionary means; his programmes are revolutionary. You need revolutionary leaders. We have leaders who have a clear vision; these should stay. You are talking about political parties, but that is not the reality. We have bigger problems. We want people's authority."
This was the second time Gaddafi was urging Museveni to rule for life, after he made similar remarks at the Ugandan leader's May 2001 swearing-in ceremony.
Gaddafi?s speech in Uganda a script from the 1960s

 

[Albert Msando]

Siku mbili tatu sijapata muda hapa sasa hawa rafiki zangu hawaongei kitu kinachoingia kwenye misuli ya akili yangu. Walidhani mimi hushabikia jambo lisilo na mantiki.

Bado sijaona sababu za msingi za kumuondoa gaddafi. Kama hawana kazi ya kufanya waje kutusaidia kumuondoa JK tutawalipa. Yaani tukodishe nguvu ya umma kwa sababu sisi tumeshindwa.

Narudia, statistically, gadaffi is an outlier yaani an awkward case katika viongozi waliokaa madarakani muda mrefu

Gurudumu, you have made me think for a minute, kwa nini uone hakuna sababu za msingi kumuonda Gaddafi? Kwani wewe ni Mlibya? And with the same breathe najiuliza kwa nini wengine waone ni sawa kumuondoa? Kwani na wao ni Walibya?

Je kuwepo kwake au kutokuwepo kwake kunatusaidia nini sisi watanzania? JK wetu tunataka awepo au asiwepo? Kumbe kuondolewa kwa mtu si kwa sababu ameshindwa kazi ila anaondolewa kwa sababu amekaa muda mrefu?

As for me I from now dont care whether unaona kuna sababu aondoke au la. I do not care kama wengine wanataka aondoke, I only care kwamba none cares JK abaki au la!

That for me is what am concerned of now. And even more concerned kwamba Waafrika na wengi wetu tumekuwa wepesi kuwapigia kelele viongozi na kuviacha vyama kama CCM ambavyo vimekaa miaka milele!! Kwani udikteta ni wa mtu tu? Je chama hakiwezi kuwa dikteta?? Si tuanze na sisi basi?

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Unapotosha historia au historia ina-kupotosha wewe. Wanajeshi wa Libya walikuwepo Uganda wakati wa Iddi Amin lakini hakutuma wana Jeshi kumsaidia Iddi Amin kupigana na Tanzania.

Na hata angetuma Jeshi lake kumsaidia Iddi Amin, asingekuwa na kosa.

Ya Nyerere na Iddi Amin, tuyaache kama yalivyo!

Mbona Nyerere alituma wanajeshi na kupeleka misaada kedekede kusaidia Biafra? Ilimuhusu nini au ilituihusu nini vita hiyo waTanzania?

Tusiwe wazembe wakufikiri na kuhusisha mambo yasio husiana natukio lilivyo kwa wakati uliopo.

Ni dhahiri aidha ulikuwa hujazaliwa au ulikuwa mdogo sana wakati wa vita kati ya Tanzania na Uganda!

 

[Gurudumu]

Gurudumu, I get your point. I hear you loud and clear.

Not that when he is gone it will be bread and butter for Libyans. And democracy doesnt mean a change of leaders every after ten years. At least with that what it means people have made a choice. Whether they have repeatedly made a bad choice doesnt translate to lack of democracy but to bad governance in a narrow sense.

So, here the question is, in this particular case does the Libyans want Gaddaffi to stay or go? For those who are already dead they wanted him to go. For those who are ailing on death beds with deady bullet wounds want him to go. And for those who have believed in him for those who have not felt the pinch of his autocratic rule they want him to stay. Or if they have felt it but are too scared to risk another devil then they think its better he stays.

I would agree to this thought, weird and cowardly as it is, he cant rule for another twenty years!! even if he wanted to he will naturally be unable to rule. That is also an option! Waiting is also democracy!

Ahaaa, now you are walking majestically! Kilichotakiwa Libya siyo ku copy and paste nguvu ya umma bali to call for national dialogue for Libya beyond Gaddafi. He is now old and probably not fully in-charge. Some evil dictators are likely to crop out from his linesmen, which is dengarous.

Libyans should define their future based on their own context, not copy and paste from others and especially not from America

 

[Albert Msando]

"Integration is in the interest of Afro-Arab communities," Gaddafi said through an interpreter as he closed the youth conference. "African leadership is paralysed. If we depend on constitutions, we are losing track."
Singling out Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe and host President Yoweri Museveni as the most "visionary" leaders on the continent today, Gaddafi criticised multiparty politics and presidential term limits.
Gaddafi, who has been in power for 39 years, said: "Why should a leader relinquish power when he is doing good things for his people? There are people who talk about term limits. What are they? A constitution is simply a document drafted by people. A leader should only leave power by the will of the people. For example, President Museveni came into power through revolutionary means, not the vote. How can he simply go?"
He added: "If Museveni has the will of the people, he should be re-elected. Museveni came in through revolutionary means; his programmes are revolutionary. You need revolutionary leaders. We have leaders who have a clear vision; these should stay. You are talking about political parties, but that is not the reality. We have bigger problems. We want people's authority."
This was the second time Gaddafi was urging Museveni to rule for life, after he made similar remarks at the Ugandan leader's May 2001 swearing-in ceremony.
Gaddafi?s speech in Uganda a script from the 1960s

This now tells it all. Is he ruling by the will of the people or by instilling fear among the ruled class? With these kind of speeches who will try to oppose him. He never expected it. Now that it has come he is caught pants down. He is busy trying to pull them up!

 

[Mallaba]

Halafu Mallaba, hizo cut and paste siyo mawazo yako, unatujazia thead na uchafu bana.

watu wameuliza maswali kwamba je Ghadafi alipokuja Uganda aliongea nini?
nimejaribu kumwekea mtu maelezo na link zake, siwezi kuandika kila kitu
ndio maana mtu unampa link za information zote, baya liko wapi kaka?
usiwe na hasira, wewe bado huna sababu ya kumsupport huyo baladhuli wako huyo

 

[Albert Msando]

Ahaaa, now you are walking majestically! Kilichotakiwa Libya siyo ku copy and paste nguvu ya umma bali to call for national dialogue for Libya beyond Gaddafi. He is now old and probably not fully in-charge. Some evil dictators are likely to crop out from his linesmen, which is dengarous.

Libyans should define their future based on their own context, not copy and paste from others and especially not from America

Please clarify, what is it that they should not copy from America?

 

[Gurudumu]

Gurudumu, you have made me think for a minute, kwa nini uone hakuna sababu za msingi kumuonda Gaddafi? Kwani wewe ni Mlibya? And with the same breathe najiuliza kwa nini wengine waone ni sawa kumuondoa? Kwani na wao ni Walibya?

Je kuwepo kwake au kutokuwepo kwake kunatusaidia nini sisi watanzania? JK wetu tunataka awepo au asiwepo? Kumbe kuondolewa kwa mtu si kwa sababu ameshindwa kazi ila anaondolewa kwa sababu amekaa muda mrefu?

As for me I from now dont care whether unaona kuna sababu aondoke au la. I do not care kama wengine wanataka aondoke, I only care kwamba none cares JK abaki au la!

That for me is what am concerned of now. And even more concerned kwamba Waafrika na wengi wetu tumekuwa wepesi kuwapigia kelele viongozi na kuviacha vyama kama CCM ambavyo vimekaa miaka milele!! Kwani udikteta ni wa mtu tu? Je chama hakiwezi kuwa dikteta?? Si tuanze na sisi basi?

Mbona unaongea point hivyo, uko Bugaloo nini?

 

[HISIA KALI]

Gaddafi amenifanya nicheke sana leo. Huyu jamaa anaongea kwa mkwara utafikiri anahutubia wanajeshi.

Ataondoka tu huyu. Kwanza wananchi hapo ndio wanatakiwa kuongeza maandamano zaidi.

 

[Mallaba]

Ahaaa, now you are walking majestically! Kilichotakiwa Libya siyo ku copy and paste nguvu ya umma bali to call for national dialogue for Libya beyond Gaddafi. He is now old and probably not fully in-charge. Some evil dictators are likely to crop out from his linesmen, which is dengarous.

Libyans should define their future based on their own context, not copy and paste from others and especially not from America

wewe Gurudumu acha kutudanganya, hivi unataka kutuambia kwa serikali ya Ghadafi mtu anauwezo wa kuhoji chochote au kuwa na dialogue?
nchi yenyewe haina hata katiba, na yeye mwenyewe anasifia kutokuwa na katiba, sasa ulitegemea wananchi waliomchoka wafanye nini??
ni kama hapa tz hata useme nini CCM nad KIKWETE never listern, wananchi wafanyeje zaidi ya kuandamana?

 

[Albert Msando]

watu wameuliza maswali kwamba je Ghadafi alipokuja Uganda aliongea nini?
nimejaribu kumwekea mtu maelezo na link zake, siwezi kuandika kila kitu
ndio maana mtu unampa link za information zote, baya liko wapi kaka?
usiwe na hasira, wewe bado huna sababu ya kumsupport huyo baladhuli wako huyo

Leo humu ndani Gurudumu na Mallaba ni uso kwa uso!!

Sasa cut and paste ataepukaje? Ameombwa atoe Gaddafi alisema nini alipooenda Uganda, akairusha baada ya kuitoa huko alikoitoa. amefika jamvini kakutana na Gurudumu amefura kamrudisha nayo mbio......jamani, mbona mko tayari kumfia Gaddafi na kumuombea mabaya aondoke lakini JK hapa anapeta tu? Mallaba na Gurudumu hima muungane tuelekeze nguvu zetu nyumbani, Gaddafi tuwaachie Walibya, wameamua walichoamua kwa sasa sisi tutabaki mashabiki tu!! Ni sawa sawa na mto na mashuka kwa wanandoa!!

 

[Albert Msando]

Mbona unaongea point hivyo, uko Bugaloo nini?

Hahaa, niko ofisini natafuta ada ya mtoto halafu ole wake mtu aje aniite fisadi!

Bogaloo nikitia mguu mawazo tele, naanza kufikiria mwisho wa mwenzi nawatoaje watanzania wangu! Hawachelewi kunifanyia maandamano na sina mabomu ya kuwatandika nayo!

 

[Son of Alaska]

Lets put reality in perspective-hivyo kwenye umaskini is democracy possible????poor masses are hungry and dont think right ndio maana CCM inapeta.DICTATORSHIP is there to stay mpaka after a attaining a certain stage of development when people can think straight democracy creeps in.Hii epoch ya udictator afrika ipo for the long run-HAVENT u asked yourself why mostly third world are all in dictatorship

 

[Gurudumu]

Please clarify, what is it that they should not copy from America?

Fuatilia vizuri. Hii nguvu ya umma ya Libya is partly made in the USA, siyo fully home grown. It is highly staged, haina tofauti na elections zetu.

Open your eyes man!!!! Kuna mafuta mengi Libya, Chinese wamechukua mafuta ya Sudan. Sadam alikuwa "dictator" kwa sababu alikuwa na mafuta.

Hivi unajua kwa nini waangalizi wa EU wamesema Uchaguzi wa Uganga haukuwa free and fair lakini walichelewa kutamka hivyo kuhusu Uchaguzi wetu? Hivi unajua kwamba China kwa mara ya kwanza walipeleka election observer kwenye kura ya maoni South Sudan? Chinese? Election Observers?

 

[Mallaba]

 

[Albert Msando]

Fuatilia vizuri. Hii nguvu ya umma ya Libya is partly made in the USA, siyo fully home grown. It is highly staged, haina tofauti na elections zetu.

Open your eyes man!!!! Kuna mafuta mengi Libya, Chinese wamechukua mafuta ya Sudan. Sadam alikuwa "dictator" kwa sababu alikuwa na mafuta.

Hivi unajua kwa nini waangalizi wa EU wamesema Uchaguzi wa Uganga haukuwa free and fair lakini walichelewa kutamka hivyo kuhusu Uchaguzi wetu? Hivi unajua kwamba China kwa mara ya kwanza walipeleka election observer kwenye kura ya maoni South Sudan? Chinese? Election Observers?

So this is war between China and the US? Where do the other super powers like Japan, Russia, Germany etc come into? I we witnessing a history in the making? I need to hear you

 

[Mallaba]

wewe acha huo u nazi wako, ooh kila kitu eti ni USA,
Tunisia, USA, eGYPT USA, kila kitu USA.. mda mwingine mnamlaumu USA kwa bure tu
mfano huko Libya hakuna hata access ya internet wala mawasiliano yeyote kutoka nje, je USA inakuwaje ni mastermind?
wewe huna pointi ya kumsapoti huyo jamaa yako.
Hata alipokuja Uganda akawa anatoa mikomenti ya kijinga jinga tu kama sio kiongozi.
Mara anasema:
Gaddafi sparked off a religious furore when he suggested that the modern day version of the Bible is inaccurate. He said: "The Bible we have now is not the one that was revealed to Issa [Jesus] and the Old Testament is not the one that was revealed to Musa [Moses]. Muhammad is mentioned in both (original versions), but the Tora and Bible we have now, there is no mention of him."
He added: "It means that it [the Bible] has been forged. The Prophet Muhammad was sent to mankind. Allah wanted mankind to have one religion. The Koran that we have is the only book that was sent by Allah. We believe in the Bible as well as the Tora."
Church officials in Uganda described Gaddafi's statements as "inflammatory" and urged their flock to ignore his sentiments.

Fuatilia vizuri. Hii nguvu ya umma ya Libya is partly made in the USA, siyo fully home grown. It is highly staged, haina tofauti na elections zetu.

Open your eyes man!!!! Kuna mafuta mengi Libya, Chinese wamechukua mafuta ya Sudan. Sadam alikuwa "dictator" kwa sababu alikuwa na mafuta.

Hivi unajua kwa nini waangalizi wa EU wamesema Uchaguzi wa Uganga haukuwa free and fair lakini walichelewa kutamka hivyo kuhusu Uchaguzi wetu? Hivi unajua kwamba China kwa mara ya kwanza walipeleka election observer kwenye kura ya maoni South Sudan? Chinese? Election Observers?

 

[Gurudumu]

wewe Gurudumu acha kutudanganya, hivi unataka kutuambia kwa serikali ya Ghadafi mtu anauwezo wa kuhoji chochote au kuwa na dialogue?
nchi yenyewe haina hata katiba, na yeye mwenyewe anasifia kutokuwa na katiba, sasa ulitegemea wananchi waliomchoka wafanye nini??
ni kama hapa tz hata useme nini CCM nad KIKWETE never listern, wananchi wafanyeje zaidi ya kuandamana?

Sasa si ujiulize maswali hadi mwisho mkuu? Tz ina katiba na madini na gesi, je hiyo katiba imetufanya tuwe na maendeleo kuliko Libya? Uingereza wana katiba? Asilimia ngapi ya watz wanaijua katiba yao? Tuna tofauti gani na hao wasio na katiba?

Haya, sisi tuaonga, tunahoji, tunapiga kelele mpaka makoo yanatukauka. Are things becoming better because we have freedom to question the gov?

 

[Mpevu]

ghadaffi ameifanyia makubwa sana Libya, ni tofauti kubwa na Tunisia, Egypt na Africa kwa ujumla. Huyu ameiweka Libya vizuri mno, kubwa hapo ni kukaa madarakani kwa muda mrefu na si hali za ajira, hali ngumu ya maisha, uchumi kudorora.

 

[Piriton]

Mie nilikuwa huko for 2yrs. Msidanganywe na propoganda chafu. Libya wana hali nzuri mara 100 zaidi yetu.