DR Congo and Rwanda's FDLR rebels: Why Tanzania could end up eating leftovers

[beth]

THIS week could finally see the launch of a military offensive against the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) in the eastern DR Congo, after the rebel group failed to comply with a January 2 deadline to lay down their weapons and surrender or face military action and be forcefully disarmed.

The operation against the FDLR was initially meant to be a joint effort between the UN and the Congolese army, but last week it was announced that it would principally be carried out by the Congolese army – known by their initials FARDC (Armed Forces of the DRC) – with only logistical support, such as helicopter gunships, from the UN.

Reports indicate that UN's withdrawal from the frontline comes after the Congolese army wanted to lead the offensive, but according to the UN's own rules, its forces cannot be involved in fighting unless it is also commanding the operation.

That shift in command may seem like a small technical detail, but it has major ramifications for the success of the mission, and has serious regional implications too.

For one, the Congolese army itself has long been accused of providing arms, military support and intelligence to the FDLR.

A damning report in November by human rights organisation Enough Project revealed in detail how the Congolese army collaborates with the FDLR in profiteering from eastern Congo's vast natural resources.

The rebels' biggest money maker at the moment is the charcoal trade, which they directly exploit from the Congolese forests and also levy taxes on local villagers involved in the trade.

The FDLR also has interests in gold mining, cannabis, illegal fishing and poaching in the region, whose proceeds they share with the Congolese army in exchange for the safe passage of goods.

Therefore having the Congolese army leading the offensive against their alleged business partners throws serious doubt on the success of the mission – it is more likely that the army will just make a feeble show of attacking the rebels, and retreat claiming they have been overpowered.

But the UN's standing down also buys time for Tanzania and South Africa, the two countries making up the majority of UN's Force Intervention Brigade (FIB) in the eastern DRC.

South Africa for the money

For South Africa "it's just business, it's not personal." Under President Joseph Kabila's administration, South Africa-DRC relations have flourished, and South Africa has become the biggest supplier of goods and services to DRC, providing more than 21% of the country's imports.

As president, Kabila is commander-in-chief of the Congolese armed forces, and so it could be argued that ultimately, the army's alleged support to FDLR can be traced back to him – it's not lost on observers that Kabila's primary support comes from the east, but he's deeply unpopular in the west and in the capital Kinshasa.

In September, twenty-five South African companies visited DRC in search of investment and export opportunities, as part of a delegation organised by the Department of Trade and Industry.

The business delegation comprised companies in the agriculture and agro-processing, infrastructure, built environment, energy, mining and capital equipment, electro technical and medical equipment, solutions and supplies sectors.

In 2013, South Africa gave a breath of life to the long-planned Grand Inga Dam project on the mouth of the Congo river; construction is scheduled to start this October.

South African power utility Eskom committed itself to buying more than half of the power – 2,500 megawatts – from the 4,800 megawatts generated by the first phase of the Grand Inga Hydro Electric Power complex.

In the mining sector, South Africa has so far been losing out to countries like China and Canada in securing mining concessions in the DRC; for example, 90% of the minerals extracted from Katanga province are exported to China.

South Africa needs a stable DRC to effectively wield its "economic diplomacy", and invigorate its own ailing economy.

And as the country with the most developed mining sector in Africa, South Africa sees itself as naturally having the most to leverage in Africa in order to profit from DRC's minerals, without overtly looking like it's there to loot and pillage – a charge that tainted the reputation of the other African armies in the Congo during the ‘African World War' of 1998-2003, including Uganda, Rwanda, Angola and Zimbabwe.

Laundering FDLR

Tanzania has an interest in seeing a stable DRC as it has often had to bear the burden of hosting refugees. In northwestern Tanzania, the UN is hosting 100,000 refugees from the Congo basin, but that region of Tanzania is among the poorest and most marginalised in the country.

UNHCR says that local communities often feel threatened by the influx of migrants and the refugee situation is often played up for political gain.

Even so, Tanzania is in a particularly delicate situation, and unfortunately seems to have come up with the short end of the stick. It risks being left to eat leftovers after other players have had the banquet. This is because putting its neck on the line far more than any other country in the region, and for benefits that do not seem commensurate with the risks.

In the first place, South Africa has the advantage of geographical distance, such that if things go wrong in the Congo, its domestic politics can remain relatively detached. Tanzania, however, shares a border with DRC over Lake Tanganyika, and continues to be directly affected by the happenings in the Congo.

But more importantly, Tanzania seems to have taken on the very difficult and unpleasant job – that of attempting to "clean up" the reputation of the FDLR.

The FDLR are considered the epicentre of the various groups marauding the eastern Congo, and several of its leaders were involved in perpetrating the 1994 Rwandan genocide.

Tanzania's foreign minister Bernard Membe has been quoted as referring to the rebels as "freedom fighters", a position that is difficult to justify without re-framing the 1994 genocide – which Paul Kagame's Rwanda considers genocide revisionism and denial, an extremely grievous crime. The fact that there is a vocal constituency arguing that Kagame's Rwanda Patriotic Army (RPA) rebels, and subsequently troops, committed atrocities too during the war and in DRC, is probably not about to equalise the sins of the two sides.

Lost battle

Thus unless Kagame does something exceptionally egregious inside DR Congo, Tanzania will probably lose the PR battle, especially given that one its key allies, the US, has shifted dramatically to take a hardline against FDLR.

The atrocities of 1994 genocide are so salient in Africa's – and the world's – consciousness that trying to "legitimise" the FDLR, who continue to call for the extermination of the Tutsis, seems very likely to fail.

And more importantly, since the 2005 peace agreement in South Sudan – the Sudan conflict had become a vortex in the region, drawing in nearly the whole of the Horn of Africa – it has become increasingly out of date for a country to be seen to explicitly support rebels in a neighbouring country.

Furthermore, Tanzania doesn't have much of the solid commercial interests in the DR Congo that South Africa, France, or Belgium do, making its position regarding the FDLR puzzling especially considering that it is a country with a history of being geopolitically astute.

In the words of the eminent philosopher Bertrand Russell, it is seldom justifiable to embark on any policy that, though harmful in the present, will be beneficial in the long run, simply because the distant consequences of an action (a happy, stable DRC) are much more uncertain than immediate consequences (Tanzania's image of a haven of pan-African liberation being decidedly tarnished by being seen to support genocidaires).

In any case with all these undercurrents, it is unlikely that the operation against the FDLR will succeed, or even be launched – sadly, it seems it is just better for everyone, except the Congolese people, for the situation to remain as it is.

Source:http://mgafrica.com/article/2015-02-02-congos-fdlr-rebels

 

[Sooth]

Conveniently, no mention of growing business between Dar port and DRC. Business is so good that CRDB has opened a branch in DRC specifically to facilitate transactions between the two countries. Propaganda at its best.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Conveniently, no mention of growing business between Dar port and DRC. Business is so good that CRDB has opened a branch in DRC specifically to facilitate transactions between the two countries. Propaganda at its best.

Well said mkuu, wenzetu hawa masaa yote ubuni Propaganda za kulisema vibaya Taifa letu, watasema lolote wakifikiri hilo tu linaweza kutukatisha tamaa tunapo fanya majukumu yetu ya kusaidia Mataifa mengine yawe na amani ya kudumu, wakikosa limelight kwenye masuala yanayo gusa Africa, basi hilo huwa linawapa taabu sana i.e wanakuwa na wivu wa kike mpaka wanafikia hatua ya ku-manufacture habari ambazo hazina kichwa wala miguu!!

Niliposoma paragraph ya kwanza tu, nilijuwa wazi wasi kwamba mleta habari hizi atakuwa ni mtu kutoka nchi jirani, na kweli! Ukifatilia source unakuta aliye file report hii ni "Christine Mungai" alikuwa na haja gani kuleta propaganda za kitoto, kwa nini hawaleti habari kuhusu adventure zao za huko SOMALIA ili na sisi tupate wasaa wa kuwajadiri hapa.

 

[Commanche]

Tanzania should stop supporting FDLR murderers!

 

[Kibona]

Well said mkuu, wenzetu hawa masaa yote ubuni Propaganda za kulisema vibaya Taifa letu, watasema lolote wakifikiri hilo tu linaweza kutukatisha tamaa tunapo fanya majukumu yetu ya kusaidia Mataifa mengine yawe na amani ya kudumu, wakikosa limelight kwenye masuala yanayo gusa Africa, basi hilo huwa linawapa taabu sana i.e wanakuwa na wivu wa kike mpaka wanafikia hatua ya ku-manufacture habari ambazo hazina kichwa wala miguu!!

Niliposoma paragraph ya kwanza tu, nilijuwa wazi wasi kwamba mleta habari hizi atakuwa ni mtu kutoka nchi jirani, na kweli! Ukifatilia source unakuta aliye file report hii ni "Christine Mungai" alikuwa na haja gani kuleta propaganda za kitoto, kwa nini hawaleti habari kuhusu adventure zao za huko SOMALIA ili na sisi tupate wasaa wa kuwajadiri hapa.

Sasa hivi wanaunderrate determination yetu kwasababu wanadhani hiyo project ya kikwete. Ngoja aingie rais wa awamu ya tano ndio watatuelewa vizuri. Mwandishi anajifurahisha eti "our allies, the US" US has never been a Tanzanian ally in history. The US and UK are the greatest allies of CoW, but the good thing is we have been used to such kind of the situation. You just have to wait and see.

 

[Swat]

Well said mkuu, wenzetu hawa masaa yote ubuni Propaganda za kulisema vibaya Taifa letu, watasema lolote wakifikiri hilo tu linaweza kutukatisha tamaa tunapo fanya majukumu yetu ya kusaidia Mataifa mengine yawe na amani ya kudumu, wakikosa limelight kwenye masuala yanayo gusa Africa, basi hilo huwa linawapa taabu sana i.e wanakuwa na wivu wa kike mpaka wanafikia hatua ya ku-manufacture habari ambazo hazina kichwa wala miguu!!

Niliposoma paragraph ya kwanza tu, nilijuwa wazi wasi kwamba mleta habari hizi atakuwa ni mtu kutoka nchi jirani, na kweli! Ukifatilia source unakuta aliye file report hii ni "Christine Mungai" alikuwa na haja gani kuleta propaganda za kitoto, kwa nini hawaleti habari kuhusu adventure zao za huko SOMALIA ili na sisi tupate wasaa wa kuwajadiri hapa.

Sijui huwa wanawalipa sh ngapi kwa kila makala ya propaganda kama hii!. Nilikua naisoma nikabaki kucheka tu,masala haina data wala analysis,ni utumbotumbo Tu. Mbona huyu muandishi hakugusia faida inazopata Kenya kwa kuingia Somalia mpaka leo.

 

[JustDoItNow]

Tanzania should stop supporting FDLR murderers!

Ahahahhha, mzee wa jenosaidi. Hao wanyamulenge wenzako mbona huendi kuwasaidia msituni?

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Tanzania should stop supporting FDLR murderers!

Aaah! Hivi tukiwa wakweli hapa kwa ku-tally sum total ya binadamu wenzetu walio kuwa murdered huko Kongo na Rwanda kwenyewe under PK's regime tutapata picha nyingine kabisa - mark you: Mahuaji hayo bado yanaendelea mpaka leo, alafu na haya mahuaji ya FDLR ambayo Nchi za magharibi na Rwanda yenyewe uyapigia debe kinafiki tu, kama PK aliingia madarakani kwa mtutu wa bunduki kwa nini wao waone ni dhambi FDLR wakitaka nao waingie madarakani kwa staili ile ile!!!

Ni kweli Baadhi ya Watutsi na Wahutu walihuawa under the heat ya PK na wenzake kumuhua kikatiri Rais wa nchi huru huku wakijuwa wazi wazi Habyarimana alisha ridhia kugawana madaraka na Watutsi, lakini kutoka na hulka za baadhi ya Viongozi wa Kitutsi kupenda madaraka kupindukia wakaona ni vyema wamumalize Habyarimana fasta - leo hii wanajitia kulia lia Gynocide Gynocide wakati wenyewe wame-commit A MEGA GYNOCIDE nchini DRC na Rwanda kwenyewe, sijawahi kusikia nchi za magharibi zikikemea matendo ya ukatiri wa kupindukia wa Administration ya PK!!!

Hawajambo kwenye nyanja za propaganda, wame-borrow a leaf kutoka kwa Wayahudi katika ku-exaggerate idadi kamili ya Watutsi waliohuwawa, wanalifanya hilo maksudi ili wapate kisingizio cha kug'ang'ania madarakani na kuwatawala majority 4 ever, hawajifunzi lolote kutoka Africa Kusini - hukuna utawala wowote Duniani uliwahi kufanikiwa kuwatawala Majority 4ever - maguvu/ubabe wa kijeshi notwithstanding.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Sijui huwa wanawalipa sh ngapi kwa kila makala ya propaganda kama hii!. Nilikua naisoma nikabaki kucheka tu,masala haina data wala analysis,ni utumbotumbo Tu. Mbona huyu muandishi hakugusia faida inazopata Kenya kwa kuingia Somalia mpaka leo.

Mkuu ukisoma kwa umakini post yenyewe inaonekana hiko totaly incoherent - know why? Ndio tatizo la kujaribu ku-manufacture stori za Alice in a Wonderland - masaa yote inabaki ni stori ya kufikirika tu, anafikiri Watanzania hawana akili ya kutofautisha mchele na PUMBA, hilo ndilo tatizo kubwa la baadhi ya wenzetu hawa, narudia si wote lakini wachache wao unaweza kufikiri wanapewa G..T handouts za kujaribu kilikandia Taifa letu.

 

[MTAZAMO]

Propaganda at best......always huwa hatupigi kelele.....Tanzania hubinya kimya kimya ......mtawasikia watavyopiga mayowe very soon.....

 

[MK254]

Well said mkuu, wenzetu hawa masaa yote ubuni Propaganda za kulisema vibaya Taifa letu, watasema lolote wakifikiri hilo tu linaweza kutukatisha tamaa tunapo fanya majukumu yetu ya kusaidia Mataifa mengine yawe na amani ya kudumu, wakikosa limelight kwenye masuala yanayo gusa Africa, basi hilo huwa linawapa taabu sana i.e wanakuwa na wivu wa kike mpaka wanafikia hatua ya ku-manufacture habari ambazo hazina kichwa wala miguu!!


Niliposoma paragraph ya kwanza tu, nilijuwa wazi wasi kwamba mleta habari hizi atakuwa ni mtu kutoka nchi jirani, na kweli! Ukifatilia source unakuta aliye file report hii ni "Christine Mungai" alikuwa na haja gani kuleta propaganda za kitoto, kwa nini hawaleti habari kuhusu adventure zao za huko SOMALIA ili na sisi tupate wasaa wa kuwajadiri hapa.

Hivi inamaana hapawezi tokea mtu mwenye uwezo wa kusoma taarifa kama hii na kuidadavua kiutalaam bila kughubikwa na uzalendo wa kishenzi.

 

[MOTOCHINI]

Hivi inamaana hapawezi tokea mtu mwenye uwezo wa kusoma taarifa kama hii na kuidadavua kiutalaam bila kughubikwa na uzalendo wa kishenzi.

Nenda zako huko uzalendo kivipi leteni kwanza taarifa ya faida ya kwenda somalia hum na sikuweka midomo yenu juu kwa mihabar yakuunda unda. Nawaeleza kweli kwa Tanzania ya leo jipangeni sawasawa na plopaganda zenu ila mtajua kutofautisha msalaba na jumlisha

 

[concordile 101]

Hivi inamaana hapawezi tokea mtu mwenye uwezo wa kusoma taarifa kama hii na kuidadavua kiutalaam bila kughubikwa na uzalendo wa kishenzi.

taarifa haiwezi kudadavuliwa sabab mwandishi hajatumia maneno ya busara kama leftovers, pia huwez sema tanzania itabaki kuwa na leftovers kwa kuangalia policy ya sasa hivi ambayo watawala wameiweka ili kuwanufaisha. mfano viongozi wameua reli zote kuanzia TRL na TAZARA sababu rais na mwanae wanatender ya kusafirisha mizigo congo. wanaua bandari ili wafaidike wenyewe, mfano ili mzigo wako usismbuliwe bandarini inabidi utumie makampuni yao hii imepelekea watu waikimbie bandari yetu.

lakini mara tutapobadilisha uongozi wetu na katiba yetu sio hiyo ccm tarajia yafuatayo.
kufungua reli zote zifanye kazi kwa ufanisi.
kuzifungua bandari ya mtwara na tanga. tanga iserve nchi kama burund na the like ambayo itakuwa shortcut kuliko wakitumia bandar ya mombasa while ile ya mtwara kwa nchi za malawi,zambia na the like na barabara imekaribia kuisha.
kuna mambo mengi tu ndugu ambayo yakija fanyiwa kazi you kenyans haiwez chukua hata miaka miwili mtakuwa mshapitwa. sasa hivi hakuna production yoyote na bila kuwaficha nchi yetu imesimama kwa sabab ya vibaka wachache sana lakini pia ukija kwenye gdp hakuna difference kubwa maybe ya 10b kitu ambacho si cha kujivunia sana niliexpect kwa kuwa economy yenu ni diversified mngekuwa mmetuzid mara mbili au tatu lakini si hivyo. acheni propaganda la sivyo muelekeapo ni kubaya mind you almost 40% ya market ya bidhaa zenu iko bongo siku tukianza kuweka protectionism kwenye bidhaa zenu kama nyinyi mtakuwa wapi? usimrushie kicha jiwe wakati wewe waishi kwenye nyumba ya pulizo akiamua kujibu utaumia

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Hivi inamaana hapawezi tokea mtu mwenye uwezo wa kusoma taarifa kama hii na kuidadavua kiutalaam bila kughubikwa na uzalendo wa kishenzi.

What a spitting image of your GOODSELF!!!! Always trying 2 be bigger than your HEAD.

 

[MK254]

taarifa haiwezi kudadavuliwa sabab mwandishi hajatumia maneno ya busara kama leftovers, pia huwez sema tanzania itabaki kuwa na leftovers kwa kuangalia policy ya sasa hivi ambayo watawala wameiweka ili kuwanufaisha. mfano viongozi wameua reli zote kuanzia TRL na TAZARA sababu rais na mwanae wanatender ya kusafirisha mizigo congo. wanaua bandari ili wafaidike wenyewe, mfano ili mzigo wako usismbuliwe bandarini inabidi utumie makampuni yao hii imepelekea watu waikimbie bandari yetu.

lakini mara tutapobadilisha uongozi wetu na katiba yetu sio hiyo ccm tarajia yafuatayo.
kufungua reli zote zifanye kazi kwa ufanisi.
kuzifungua bandari ya mtwara na tanga. tanga iserve nchi kama burund na the like ambayo itakuwa shortcut kuliko wakitumia bandar ya mombasa while ile ya mtwara kwa nchi za malawi,zambia na the like na barabara imekaribia kuisha.
kuna mambo mengi tu ndugu ambayo yakija fanyiwa kazi you kenyans haiwez chukua hata miaka miwili mtakuwa mshapitwa. sasa hivi hakuna production yoyote na bila kuwaficha nchi yetu imesimama kwa sabab ya vibaka wachache sana lakini pia ukija kwenye gdp hakuna difference kubwa maybe ya 10b kitu ambacho si cha kujivunia sana niliexpect kwa kuwa economy yenu ni diversified mngekuwa mmetuzid mara mbili au tatu lakini si hivyo. acheni propaganda la sivyo muelekeapo ni kubaya mind you almost 40% ya market ya bidhaa zenu iko bongo siku tukianza kuweka protectionism kwenye bidhaa zenu kama nyinyi mtakuwa wapi? usimrushie kicha jiwe wakati wewe waishi kwenye nyumba ya pulizo akiamua kujibu utaumia

Mtaalam wa kweli hawezi poteza muda kumpiga mwandishi, bali atabisha takwimu na facts zilizotajwa kwa yeye kuleta picha halisi ama kwa mtazamo wake. Haya mengine unayoyataja ya tofauti za GDP zetu ni hadithi za alfaulela maana hiyo tofauti imekua hivyo kwa miaka kumi iliyopita, hamna jipya.

Hii taarifa imeelezea jinsi Wa-south wanavyonufaika na ngoma ya Congo, wapo wanahusika kijeshi lakini kwa kiaina wanajua kuchuma kwa asilimia kubwa, nyie mpo humo kama vipofu, mnadhani hii dunia inajali na hayo mambo ya undugu wala udada.

 

[jMali]

Hivi inamaana hapawezi tokea mtu mwenye uwezo wa kusoma taarifa kama hii na kuidadavua kiutalaam bila kughubikwa na uzalendo wa kishenzi.

kwa mtu anayefahamu siasa za great lakes hii kitu haistahili majibu kwa sababu ni upumbavu mtupu. wala hahitaji utaalamu wowote kudadavua chochote hapo. Ila kwa sababu leo sina shughuli kubwa let me indulge a bit

1. "For one, the Congolese army itself has long been accused of providing arms, military support and intelligence to the FDLR." swali: kwani operesheni zinazoendelea dhidi ya FDLR, ADF na waasi wengine ni kwa faida ya nani kama sio DRC? Kwa nini DRC walete UN iwapige watu ambao DRC hiyo hiyo tena inawasapoti? Hii inaingia akilini? halafu hebu tuambiwe military support na intelligence to the FDLR against WHOM? against the congolese government? au against adui gani? mbona mwandishi has "forgot" to say this? hahahaha.

2." A damning report in November by human rights organisation Enough Project revealed in detail how the Congolese army collaborates with the FDLR in profiteering from eastern Congo's vast natural resources. " maelezo: Muandishi hajaona taasisi yoyote ile huru kama UN, UNHCR na zinginezo kuliko hawa Enough project? How convinient! Narudia tena kwa anayejua siasa za Great lakes anajua hawa Enough project ni kina nani, sasa hebu pitia hapa https://www.jamiiforums.com/interna...ll-off-hutu-populations-from-eastern-drc.html, ambapo nilishaleta thread kuhusu hawa Enough project KABLA HATA THREAD HII HAIJAPOSTIWA. Read it bila bias halafu sema kama kweli enough project ni watu wakuaminiwa zaidi ya ripoti za UN. Mwandishi yoyote yule worth his/her salt angetafuta chanzo huru sio hawa lobbyists wa kagame. Nasisitiza tena soma kuhusu hawa enough project
Ndio maana hata hizo tuhuma zao pia haziingii akilini, yani jeshi zima lishirikiane na waasi 1500 kufisidi mali za DRC? kinawashinda nini hao FARDC kuwafukuzia mbali FDLR ili wale peke yao? afterall FDLR ni wanyarwanda, don't you think it would have been more profitable kwa FARDC/DRC kushirikiana vizuri na Rwanda kuwalazimisha FDLR warudi ili waibe vizuri mali ya nchi yao? pathetic, hawa jamaa ndio wale wale walizusha wakati fulani kuwa FDLR wanauza uranium!

3. "In the first place, South Africa has the advantage of geographical distance, such that if things go wrong in the Congo, its domestic politics can remain relatively detached. Tanzania, however, shares a border with DRC over Lake Tanganyika, and continues to be directly affected by the happenings in the Congo." swali: what could possibly go wrong with our position that Kagame should talk with his opposition including FDLR? watatemeana mate wakizungumza? on the other hand things will definetly go wrong if FDLR are attacked militarily as Rwanda suggests, kama ambavyo vilikwenda wrong all those times this failed strategy was used! Linganisha how many times Tanzania's strategy of talks imefanya kazi e.g burundi mediation at Arusha, halafu linganisha na matokeo ya vita vya kagame against FDLR since 1994, halafu leta majibu kipi kina risk zaidi. for goodness sake hata nyie wenyewe wakenya tuliwasuluhisha, we could as well say Odinga apigwe tu! mngekuwa wapi leo hii nyinyi? ...Mlishaanza kuchomana moto makanisani kama interahamwe vile vile.....

4 "Furthermore, Tanzania doesn't have much of the solid commercial interests in the DR Congo that South Africa, France, or Belgium do, making its position regarding the FDLR puzzling especially considering that it is a country with a history of being geopolitically astute." sio kila mtu anafanya vitu kwa ajili ya kupata faida. Mpaka leo wakenya mnaitwa manyan'gau kwa sababu mmekosa kitu wasauzi wanaita "ubuntu". nyie kila kitu pesa tu. Hamuwezi kuelewa dhana ya utu. Must everything be about profits to you? Sisi hatuwezi kujipendekeza kwa Rwanda kichwakichwa kwa sababu tu tunataka watumie reli yetu kama uhuru anavyofanya. in 1996 Moi alivunja diplomatic relations with Rwanda kwa sababu Rwanda ilifanya mauaji ya critics wake nairobi. Leo hii Uhuru yuko radhi ardhi ya nairobi itumike kuteka wapinzani wa kagame kwa sababu tu ya pesa. You guys are going backwards kwenye swala la utu. Mta-enjoy vipi GDP inayotokana na mauaji ya innocents, rape and other atrocities kwenye partner country? sisi bora tubaki hivi hivi tu. Kenya mlishirikiana na apartheid regime ya SA wakati sisi Tanzania tulikuwa "politically astute" enough to host whom you called "rebels" na "negative forces" like Mandela, Mbeki na ANC, unaona why mkenya mwenzio (the author) hawezi kuelewa kwa nini tunasapoti FDLR badala ya Rwanda ya kagame? Inatokana na asili zetu, sisi ni WATU first, biashara haiondoi hilo. tulim-support kabila, tulim-support Odinga ambaye leo ni former prime minister wenu, tulimsupport museveni, tumsupport Nkurunzinza...why does this idiot think somehow kwenye FDLR we got it wrong?


5. "and several of its leaders were involved in perpetrating the 1994 Rwandan genocide" FACT: no leader or any ordinary member wa FDLR for that matter has ever been implicated by the ICTR or GACACA or any other court concerning the genocide of 1994. Vinginevyo just mention one and i'll withdraw this statement! Hii kauli ya kuwahusisha FDLR na genocide ni ushahidi tosha wa jinsi wahutu wanavyobaguliwa. Pure hate! Haina tofauti yoyote na interahamwe! Kwani nao interahamwe walisema vile vile "all tutsis are RPA/RPF" wakawachinjachinja! Yani kwa vile tu ni group la wahutu basi inalazimishwa iwe FACT, kuwa SOMEONE AMONG THEM MUST HAVE PARTICIPATED IN GENOCIDE! hata kama hakuna ushahidi wowote ule! FDLR majority ni wakimbizi, ile top leadership ni masalia ya jeshi ya habyarimana ambao waliamua kuungana na hawa wakimbizi baada ya wote kujikuta DRC. Mwandishi ajibu kwa nini hiyo waanzilishi wa FDLR na viongozi wa kwanza kabisa kina Gen. Rwakarabije, leo wana vyeo vya ukuu wa magereza, ukuu wa reserve forces n.k, wakati wao ni wauaji kama anavyodai? Inawezekanaje aliyeanzisha FDLR asiwe muuaji ila viongozi wengine ambao hawataki kurudi Rwanda wawe wauaji? Na kwa nini hakukuwa, na mpaka sasa hakuna kesi yoyote ile inayowahusisha members wa FDLR kuhusiana na genocide? Hao waliouawa na members wa FDLR in 1994 hawana ndugu?

6. "Tanzania's foreign minister Bernard Membe has been quoted as referring to the rebels as "freedom fighters" , a position that is difficult to justify without re -framing the 1994 genocide "
je huyu mwandishi mkenya anafahamu kuwa Tanzania tuna uzoefu wa masuala ya Rwanda? tulihifadhi watutsi wakimbizi ufalme wao ulipopinduliwa, hata mfalme wao alikaa Dar miaka miwili kama sikosei, kwenye miaka ya 70 tukawapa uraia, mwaka 1994 tukahost mazungumzo...na baadae tukahost wakimbizi wa kihutu....Hivi anadhani mtu kama Membe (jasusi by the way) hajui anaongea nini kuhusu Rwanda? Au hatujui what really happened in 1994? Kagame ndie aliyekuwa muasi, FDLR hawakuwa waasi walikuwa raia wa rwanda. kagame (askari wa uganda wakati huo) ndie aliyepindua nchi, hawa FDLR wakakimbia uhamishoni. Kagame hakukubalika na majority ya wanyarwanda, hata leo hii hakubaliki (hii inahitaji thread yake, maana najua utaleta statistics za uchaguzi jinsi kagame anavyokubalika kama saddam hussein iraq!). Hivyo to some extent yes FDLR ni freedom fighters, its not a crime to say that. May i remind you that ANC including Mandela, were categorised as "terrorists" in United states as late as 2005! Wakati Tanzania na SADC wenzetu we called them "comrades" since day one! Like i said haishangazi kwa manyang'au kuwa na mtazamo tofauti na watanzania when it comes to these matters.

7. "The atrocities of 1994 genocide are so salient in Africa's – and the world's – consciousness that trying to "legitimise" the FDLR, who continue to call for the extermination of the Tutsis, seems very likely to fail." Hapa tena tunaona UWONGO WA WAZI WAZI. When did FDLR ever "called for the extermination of the Tutsis"? Kuna yoyote hapa JF au ulimwenguni kokote for that matter anaweza kuthibitisha hilo? This is a pure LIE, simple like that! Bahati mbaya FDLR hawana uwezo otherwise huyu mwandishi "nyang'au" alitakiwa awe sued kitambo!... And how likely is it that Tanzania would support an organisation that "calls for extermination of any race, religion or tribe"???? seriously?
Na linapokuja suala la legitimacy. lets see, FDLR ni wanyarwanda waliokuwa rwanda peacefuly, kagame na kundi lake ni maaskari wa Uganda wenye asili ya Rwanda, just like aden duale ana asili ya somalia, na kamlesh patni ana asili ya india. Hawa waganda wenye asili ya rwanda wanavamia kivita nchi peaceful kwa miaka minne since 1990, wanatungua ndege ya rais wa rwanda, wanapindua nchi kivita...halafu leo wakimbizi wa vita hivyo wanaitwa "illegitimate"? in what sense? Mbona kagame ambaye aliondoka rwanda akiwa na miaka 3 hakuitwa "illegitimate" aliporudi 1994 akiwa na late 30's? Mbona karegeya born and raised in Uganda hakuitwa "illegitimate"? What about Oda gasinzigwa, Donald kaberuka na "watanzania" wengine? inakuwaje FDLR ambao wamekimbia majuzi tu 1994 leo tupate shida ya kudefine legitimacy yao?

8. "In any case with all these undercurrents, it is unlikely that the operation against the FDLR will succeed, or even be launched – sadly, it seems it is just better for everyone, except the Congolese people, for the situation to remain as it is."
dah! hii sijui nisemeje. wacongolese wangapi wamekufa kutokana na kagame kuvamia DRC kwa kisingizio cha kuwasaka FDLR? na wacongolese wangapi wamekufa kutokana na kuuawa na FDLR? watanzania tunaomkosoa kagame tumekuwa tukishambuliwa mara nyingi kuwa tuna "re-write history", lakini hii ndio rewritting yenyewe in action! Marekani ndio ime-suppress the mapping report ya UN kutokana na aibu ya mamilioni ya wacongo waliokufa kutokana na kagame ambaye anadai kusaka merely few thousand people. few thousand hutus wanasakwa kuanzia 1994 mpaka leo! lakini collateral damage inakuwa wacongo in millions! Halafu mwandishi anasema itakuwa better kwa wacongomani, kama FDLR watapigwa kivita badala ya kuunga mkono mazungumzo yatakayowarudisha kwao kwa amani? Lakini hapo hapo mwandishi huyu huyu, makala hii hii, anadai DRC inaunga mkono FDLR!!! kwa hiyo the congolese government support rebels who kill congolese people, basi sawa!! Hizi ndizo aina za habari kuhusu Tanzania tunazotegemea kutoka kwenye gazeti ambalo mhariri wake ni CHARLES ONYANGO-OBBO! (kwa wanaomuelewa)

cc: Geza Ulole MOTOCHINI concordile 101 Bukyanagandi MTAZAMO Kibona Swat JustDoItNow beth Ngongo nyumba kubwa JokaKuu Maziku Masunga Jr.

 

[concordile 101]

Mtaalam wa kweli hawezi poteza muda kumpiga mwandishi, bali atabisha takwimu na facts zilizotajwa kwa yeye kuleta picha halisi ama kwa mtazamo wake. Haya mengine unayoyataja ya tofauti za GDP zetu ni hadithi za alfaulela maana hiyo tofauti imekua hivyo kwa miaka kumi iliyopita, hamna jipya.

Hii taarifa imeelezea jinsi Wa-south wanavyonufaika na ngoma ya Congo, wapo wanahusika kijeshi lakini kwa kiaina wanajua kuchuma kwa asilimia kubwa, nyie mpo humo kama vipofu, mnadhani hii dunia inajali na hayo mambo ya undugu wala udada.

ok leta facts zako kuwa gdp yenu ni tofaut ya twice sio kubisha tu. pia na hakuna mtu anaepinga congo kutulia. kinachopingwa ni hiyo style ya mwandish aliyotumia kurefer to tz. je anajua policy yoyote ya tz towards congo au ameelezea tu. pia sio mara moja waandishi wenu wametoa negative comments kuhusiana na tz, je ushawahi ona gazet lolote limeingilia yenu? more than that usitegemee support kutoka kwetu wakat rais ashawahi toa pendekezo ambalo ndio stand wengi wetu, kuwa hao waasi wakae meza moja kwa point kuwa kukiwa na confrotation ambaye anaumia sana ni jiran yako which happen to be tz. je kagame alimjibuje? leo hii hata mkisema wawaondoe wale waasi kwa nguvu, usitegemee hali itatulia, kule kuna watu wazaz waliuwawa wakishuhudia na mpaka leo wakisiran unadhan watatulia? kaeeni muumize vichwa vyenu achen hio patriotism haya mambo yanakuja na kuondoka leo kwao kesho kwenu, msikae mkajisahau kuwa kenya au rwanda mko safe mkawa mnatoa comments za chuki dhidi ya wengine. na kumbuken siku zote kwenye uchumi hakuna rafiki leo mtaoana we as tz tunalag kuchukua action mkaikurupikia, after some time tutabak tunawacheka mambo yakizorota

 

[mng'ato]

kwa mtu anayefahamu siasa za great lakes hii kitu haistahili majibu kwa sababu ni upumbavu mtupu. wala hahitaji utaalamu wowote kudadavua chochote hapo. Ila kwa sababu leo sina shughuli kubwa let me indulge a bit

1. "For one, the Congolese army itself has long been accused of providing arms, military support and intelligence to the FDLR." swali: kwani operesheni zinazoendelea dhidi ya FDLR, ADF na waasi wengine ni kwa faida ya nani kama sio DRC? Kwa nini DRC walete UN iwapige watu ambao DRC hiyo hiyo tena inawasapoti? Hii inaingia akilini? halafu hebu tuambiwe military support na intelligence to the FDLR against WHOM? against the congolese government? au against adui gani? mbona mwandishi has "forgot" to say this? hahahaha.

2." A damning report in November by human rights organisation Enough Project revealed in detail how the Congolese army collaborates with the FDLR in profiteering from eastern Congo’s vast natural resources. " maelezo: Muandishi hajaona taasisi yoyote ile huru kama UN, UNHCR na zinginezo kuliko hawa Enough project? How convinient! Narudia tena kwa anayejua siasa za Great lakes anajua hawa Enough project ni kina nani, sasa hebu pitia hapa https://www.jamiiforums.com/interna...ll-off-hutu-populations-from-eastern-drc.html, ambapo nilishaleta thread kuhusu hawa Enough project KABLA HATA THREAD HII HAIJAPOSTIWA. Read it bila bias halafu sema kama kweli enough project ni watu wakuaminiwa zaidi ya ripoti za UN. Mwandishi yoyote yule worth his/her salt angetafuta chanzo huru sio hawa lobbyists wa kagame. Nasisitiza tena soma kuhusu hawa enough project
Ndio maana hata hizo tuhuma zao pia haziingii akilini, yani jeshi zima lishirikiane na waasi 1500 kufisidi mali za DRC? kinawashinda nini hao FARDC kuwafukuzia mbali FDLR ili wale peke yao? afterall FDLR ni wanyarwanda, don't you think it would have been more profitable kwa FARDC/DRC kushirikiana vizuri na Rwanda kuwalazimisha FDLR warudi ili waibe vizuri mali ya nchi yao? pathetic, hawa jamaa ndio wale wale walizusha wakati fulani kuwa FDLR wanauza uranium!

3. "In the first place, South Africa has the advantage of geographical distance, such that if things go wrong in the Congo, its domestic politics can remain relatively detached. Tanzania, however, shares a border with DRC over Lake Tanganyika, and continues to be directly affected by the happenings in the Congo." swali: what could possibly go wrong with our position that Kagame should talk with his opposition including FDLR? watatemeana mate wakizungumza? on the other hand things will definetly go wrong if FDLR are attacked militarily as Rwanda suggests, kama ambavyo vilikwenda wrong all those times this failed strategy was used! Linganisha how many times Tanzania's strategy of talks imefanya kazi e.g burundi mediation at Arusha, halafu linganisha na matokeo ya vita vya kagame against FDLR since 1994, halafu leta majibu kipi kina risk zaidi. for goodness sake hata nyie wenyewe wakenya tuliwasuluhisha, we could as well say Odinga apigwe tu! mngekuwa wapi leo hii nyinyi? ...Mlishaanza kuchomana moto makanisani kama interahamwe vile vile.....

4 "Furthermore, Tanzania doesn’t have much of the solid commercial interests in the DR Congo that South Africa, France, or Belgium do, making its position regarding the FDLR puzzling especially considering that it is a country with a history of being geopolitically astute." sio kila mtu anafanya vitu kwa ajili ya kupata faida. Mpaka leo wakenya mnaitwa manyan'gau kwa sababu mmekosa kitu wasauzi wanaita "ubuntu". nyie kila kitu pesa tu. Hamuwezi kuelewa dhana ya utu. Must everything be about profits to you? Sisi hatuwezi kujipendekeza kwa Rwanda kichwakichwa kwa sababu tu tunataka watumie reli yetu kama uhuru anavyofanya. in 1996 Moi alivunja diplomatic relations with Rwanda kwa sababu Rwanda ilifanya mauaji ya critics wake nairobi. Leo hii Uhuru yuko radhi ardhi ya nairobi itumike kuteka wapinzani wa kagame kwa sababu tu ya pesa. You guys are going backwards kwenye swala la utu. Mta-enjoy vipi GDP inayotokana na mauaji ya innocents, rape and other atrocities kwenye partner country? sisi bora tubaki hivi hivi tu. Kenya mlishirikiana na apartheid regime ya SA wakati sisi Tanzania tulikuwa "politically astute" enough to host whom you called "rebels" na "negative forces" like Mandela, Mbeki na ANC, unaona why mkenya mwenzio (the author) hawezi kuelewa kwa nini tunasapoti FDLR badala ya Rwanda ya kagame? Inatokana na asili zetu, sisi ni WATU first, biashara haiondoi hilo. tulim-support kabila, tulim-support Odinga ambaye leo ni former prime minister wenu, tulimsupport museveni, tumsupport Nkurunzinza...why does this idiot think somehow kwenye FDLR we got it wrong?


5. "and several of its leaders were involved in perpetrating the 1994 Rwandan genocide" FACT: no leader or any ordinary member wa FDLR for that matter has ever been implicated by the ICTR or GACACA or any other court concerning the genocide of 1994. Vinginevyo just mention one and i'll withdraw this statement! Hii kauli ya kuwahusisha FDLR na genocide ni ushahidi tosha wa jinsi wahutu wanavyobaguliwa. Pure hate! Haina tofauti yoyote na interahamwe! Kwani nao interahamwe walisema vile vile "all tutsis are RPA/RPF" wakawachinjachinja! Yani kwa vile tu ni group la wahutu basi inalazimishwa iwe FACT, kuwa SOMEONE AMONG THEM MUST HAVE PARTICIPATED IN GENOCIDE! hata kama hakuna ushahidi wowote ule! FDLR majority ni wakimbizi, ile top leadership ni masalia ya jeshi ya habyarimana ambao waliamua kuungana na hawa wakimbizi baada ya wote kujikuta DRC. Mwandishi ajibu kwa nini hiyo waanzilishi wa FDLR na viongozi wa kwanza kabisa kina Gen. Rwakarabije, leo wana vyeo vya ukuu wa magereza, ukuu wa reserve forces n.k, wakati wao ni wauaji kama anavyodai? Inawezekanaje aliyeanzisha FDLR asiwe muuaji ila viongozi wengine ambao hawataki kurudi Rwanda wawe wauaji? Na kwa nini hakukuwa, na mpaka sasa hakuna kesi yoyote ile inayowahusisha members wa FDLR kuhusiana na genocide? Hao waliouawa na members wa FDLR in 1994 hawana ndugu?

6. "Tanzania’s foreign minister Bernard Membe has been quoted as referring to the rebels as “freedom fighters” , a position that is difficult to justify without re -framing the 1994 genocide "
je huyu mwandishi mkenya anafahamu kuwa Tanzania tuna uzoefu wa masuala ya Rwanda? tulihifadhi watutsi wakimbizi ufalme wao ulipopinduliwa, hata mfalme wao alikaa Dar miaka miwili kama sikosei, kwenye miaka ya 70 tukawapa uraia, mwaka 1994 tukahost mazungumzo...na baadae tukahost wakimbizi wa kihutu....Hivi anadhani mtu kama Membe (jasusi by the way) hajui anaongea nini kuhusu Rwanda? Au hatujui what really happened in 1994? Kagame ndie aliyekuwa muasi, FDLR hawakuwa waasi walikuwa raia wa rwanda. kagame (askari wa uganda wakati huo) ndie aliyepindua nchi, hawa FDLR wakakimbia uhamishoni. Kagame hakukubalika na majority ya wanyarwanda, hata leo hii hakubaliki (hii inahitaji thread yake, maana najua utaleta statistics za uchaguzi jinsi kagame anavyokubalika kama saddam hussein iraq!). Hivyo to some extent yes FDLR ni freedom fighters, its not a crime to say that. May i remind you that ANC including Mandela, were categorised as "terrorists" in United states as late as 2005! Wakati Tanzania na SADC wenzetu we called them "comrades" since day one! Like i said haishangazi kwa manyang'au kuwa na mtazamo tofauti na watanzania when it comes to these matters.

7. "The atrocities of 1994 genocide are so salient in Africa’s – and the world’s – consciousness that trying to “legitimise” the FDLR, who continue to call for the extermination of the Tutsis, seems very likely to fail." Hapa tena tunaona UWONGO WA WAZI WAZI. When did FDLR ever "called for the extermination of the Tutsis"? Kuna yoyote hapa JF au ulimwenguni kokote for that matter anaweza kuthibitisha hilo? This is a pure LIE, simple like that! Bahati mbaya FDLR hawana uwezo otherwise huyu mwandishi "nyang'au" alitakiwa awe sued kitambo!... And how likely is it that Tanzania would support an organisation that "calls for extermination of any race, religion or tribe"???? seriously?
Na linapokuja suala la legitimacy. lets see, FDLR ni wanyarwanda waliokuwa rwanda peacefuly, kagame na kundi lake ni maaskari wa Uganda wenye asili ya Rwanda, just like aden duale ana asili ya somalia, na kamlesh patni ana asili ya india. Hawa waganda wenye asili ya rwanda wanavamia kivita nchi peaceful kwa miaka minne since 1990, wanatungua ndege ya rais wa rwanda, wanapindua nchi kivita...halafu leo wakimbizi wa vita hivyo wanaitwa "illegitimate"? in what sense? Mbona kagame ambaye aliondoka rwanda akiwa na miaka 3 hakuitwa "illegitimate" aliporudi 1994 akiwa na late 30's? Mbona karegeya born and raised in Uganda hakuitwa "illegitimate"? What about Oda gasinzigwa, Donald kaberuka na "watanzania" wengine? inakuwaje FDLR ambao wamekimbia majuzi tu 1994 leo tupate shida ya kudefine legitimacy yao?

8. "In any case with all these undercurrents, it is unlikely that the operation against the FDLR will succeed, or even be launched – sadly, it seems it is just better for everyone, except the Congolese people, for the situation to remain as it is."
dah! hii sijui nisemeje. wacongolese wangapi wamekufa kutokana na kagame kuvamia DRC kwa kisingizio cha kuwasaka FDLR? na wacongolese wangapi wamekufa kutokana na kuuawa na FDLR? watanzania tunaomkosoa kagame tumekuwa tukishambuliwa mara nyingi kuwa tuna "re-write history", lakini hii ndio rewritting yenyewe in action! Marekani ndio ime-suppress the mapping report ya UN kutokana na aibu ya mamilioni ya wacongo waliokufa kutokana na kagame ambaye anadai kusaka merely few thousand people. few thousand hutus wanasakwa kuanzia 1994 mpaka leo! lakini collateral damage inakuwa wacongo in millions! Halafu mwandishi anasema itakuwa better kwa wacongomani, kama FDLR watapigwa kivita badala ya kuunga mkono mazungumzo yatakayowarudisha kwao kwa amani? Lakini hapo hapo mwandishi huyu huyu, makala hii hii, anadai DRC inaunga mkono FDLR!!! kwa hiyo the congolese government support rebels who kill congolese people, basi sawa!! Hizi ndizo aina za habari kuhusu Tanzania tunazotegemea kutoka kwenye gazeti ambalo mhariri wake ni CHARLES ONYANGO-OBBO! (kwa wanaomuelewa)

cc: Geza Ulole MOTOCHINI concordile 101 Bukyanagandi MTAZAMO Kibona Swat JustDoItNow beth Ngongo nyumba kubwa JokaKuu Maziku Masunga Jr.

US and Rwandan researchers said Wednesday they have developed a low-cost smartphone accessory that can detect HIV and syphilis from a finger prick of blood in just 15 minutes.This is the first device that replicates all the functions of a lab-based blood test, and it works by detecting markers of the infectious diseases: HIV antibody, treponemal-specific antibody for syphilis, and non-treponemal antibody for active syphilis infection.The manufacturing cost of the device is only US$34, much lower than the US$18,000 that current gold standard of diagnostics, known as the enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA), needs.The accessory was recently piloted by health care workers in Rwanda who used it to test blood finger-pricked from 96 patients, many of whom were women at risk for mother-to-child transmission of the sexually transmitted diseases. The health care workers were given only 30 minutes of training on the device.The researchers said that the device delivered test results displayed on the phone screen within 15 minutes and performed almost as well as the ELISA test. Nearly all patients preferred it to lab-based tests, which could take up totwo or more hours."Our work shows that a full laboratory-quality immunoassay can be run on a smartphone accessory," lead author Samuel Sia, associate professor of biomedical engineering at the ColumbiaUniversity."This kind of capability can transform how health care services are delivered around the world," Sia said. The device, or dongle, can easily connect to a smartphone or computer. Itis small and light enough to fit into one hand and draws all the power it needs to runby plugging into a smartphone's audio jack.Researchers believed that this lab-on-a-chip device could help scale up early detection of HIV and syphilis, especially in mobile or field clinics."Our dongle presents new capabilities for a broad range of users, from health care providers to consumers," Sia said."By increasing detection of syphilis infections, we mightbe able to reduce deaths by10-fold. And ...we might be able to scale up HIV testing at the community level with immediate antiretroviral therapy that could nearly stop HIV transmissions and approach elimination of thisdevastating disease," he added.The work, also comprising researchers from Rwanda Biomedical Centre, was published in the US journal Science Translational Medicine.Source:theeastafrican

 

[Commanche]

Humu JF kuna watu wanatumiwa na nchi na makundi ya nje kwa manufaa ya wachache.

FDLR haisafishiki!

 

[kmbwembwe]

Ahahahhha, mzee wa jenosaidi. Hao wanyamulenge wenzako mbona huendi kuwasaidia msituni?

Hawajakata tamaa na propaganda hata baada ya kudhihirika kagame cant be a showcase to anyone. on the contrary ni mkaburu mweusi.