Mapovu ya nini? Hoja hujibiwa kwa hoja.
Kama nitakuwa nimekuelewa vizuri hapa unamaanisha kwamba kwenda shule ni mambo ya Makafiri na siyo Waislamu!! kwamba Waislamu hawapaswi kwenda shule? is it!?CV mambo ya kikafiri,sheikh ponda sheikh wetu mkubwa sisi waumini tunamkubali,,huyo sheikh wa serikali kibabu simba atoke zake huko,,asubirie kifo mtu wenyewe yupo dakika za majeruhi saa na wakati wowote malaika mtoa roho atamgongea hodi mnafiki mkubwa huyu
Ummati uliohudhuria kwenye maandamano na mkutano wa leo mbele ya sheikh ponda ni jibu kwa huyo anaejiita mufti. Na hilo tamko la mufti ni tamko aliloandikiwa na maaskofu alisome nilimuona alivo akilisoma kwa kunesanesa.
hoja ungemuuliza babako mbona hufanani nae ?
...................nyie mlishindwa nini kumtumia sms yule aliyetoa ule mkanda shwaaaaaaaaafi wa Muddy ili awajibu kuhusu ile muvi ya jamaa.mtumie sms mufti atakuji maswali yako !
yes sir!!! you are right 100%. Kwenda shule ni marufuku kwa ile dini ya ulalamishi na kama ukienda shule basi wewe ni kafir na unaenda kinyume na Muddy. Jamaa ndo alichokuwa anamaanisha hicho nadhani. Hata Muddy mwenyewe aliambiwa ''iqra!!'' yaani soma!!..................akajibu: nitasomaje mie, wakati wajua mimi sijui kuthoooma wala kuandika mwendhiooooooooo!!!!!!.......................................Hawa walalamishi wote unaowaona wanaandika andika hapa ni Makafir coz wanaenda kinyume na mafundisho ya Muddy ila Ponda ndo muislamu swaafi, hajui kusoma wala kuandikaKama nitakuwa nimekuelewa vizuri hapa unamaanisha kwamba kwenda shule ni mambo ya Makafiri na siyo Waislamu!! kwamba Waislamu hawapaswi kwenda shule? is it!?
.......................hapo ndo mwisho wa upeo wako wa kufikiria? au ndo mafundisho ya madrasat hayo? aha ha ha ha ha!!!. Jamaa anataka CV ya Ponda, baba ake kafuata nini tena hapa?hoja ungemuuliza babako mbona hufanani nae ?
bora kuabudu msalaba kuliko kuabudu mtu aliyekuwa anabandua vitoto vya miaka tisa, na aliyekuwa ana mizigo tisa, halafu alivyo mnafiki wengine wanatakiwa wawe na mizigo minne tu wakati anayeabudiwa alikuwa na mizigo tisa! Wakiulizwa inakuaje hapo utasikia oooh, alikuwa anawasaidia tu wajane, unawasaidia ndio uwabandue?Hebu tafuta msalaba uuombe kisha ulale
Kuna post moja katika thread inayozungumzia mkutano wa kidongo chekundu inasema uislam unafundisha kila kitu juu ya maisha ya mwislam hivyo unajitoshereza.Kama nitakuwa nimekuelewa vizuri hapa unamaanisha kwamba kwenda shule ni mambo ya Makafiri na siyo Waislamu!! kwamba Waislamu hawapaswi kwenda shule? is it!?
21 September 2012
Mufti Simba said that there is no conflict between the council (BAKWATA) and Muslims in the country as it has been claimed by the institution under Sheikh Issa Ponda
He said what is being propagated is just a propaganda aimed at distorting the image of Islam in the country.
"This group that calls itself the Community and Institutions of Islam is not an Islamic association but a gang of few people (wahabi) from sects of Muslims…..they don't run any progressive activities for Muslims apart from demonstrating and using force to take over the mosques operating under the Council," he noted.
Simba said the gang has a history of being involved in chaos, referring to the 1992 incident when they rioted at the council's headquarters wanting to unseat the Mufti Sheikh Hemed bin Jumaa bin Hemed claiming that the council had failed to govern the Muslims.
Mufti also urged police to act accordingly against the group which had attempted to stop different government projects a couple of times, including census: referring to the incident early this month when Muslims gathered at the Ministry for Home Affairs requiring the government to free Muslims were arrested for opposing the census.
"They don't want to follow government orders they want to be recognised…..as Muslims, we cannot bear with them and we call upon the government to deal with them as per the law, " he stressed.
Unamaanisha pia kuwa waandamanaji wana CV sawa na ya Ponda aka Alshaabab??Ummati uliohudhuria kwenye maandamano na mkutano wa leo mbele ya sheikh ponda ni jibu kwa huyo anaejiita mufti. Na hilo tamko la mufti ni tamko aliloandikiwa na maaskofu alisome nilimuona alivo akilisoma kwa kunesanesa.
mod hii lugha haivumiliki!Acha usenge maaskofu wameingiaje kwenye dini yenu?shetani mkubwa!usipotoshe
bora kuabudu msalaba kuliko kuabudu mtu aliyekuwa anabandua vitoto vya miaka tisa, na aliyekuwa ana mizigo tisa, halafu alivyo mnafiki wengine wanatakiwa wawe na mizigo minne tu wakati anayeabudiwa alikuwa na mizigo tisa! Wakiulizwa inakuaje hapo utasikia oooh, alikuwa anawasaidia tu wajane, unawasaidia ndio uwabandue?
Ummati uliohudhuria kwenye maandamano na mkutano wa leo mbele ya sheikh ponda ni jibu kwa huyo anaejiita mufti. Na hilo tamko la mufti ni tamko aliloandikiwa na maaskofu alisome nilimuona alivo akilisoma kwa kunesanesa.
Tumesikia kauli ya mufti nanukuu, (maneno yote hapa ni ya Mufti si yangu):
Nawatahadharisha Waislamu wote nchini kwamba Ponda Issa Ponda si mwanazuoni, si Sheikh, hakusoma elimu ya msingi ya kidunia wala ya kidini, hata Quran hajui kusoma. Anajaribu kuwatumia Waislamu kwa manufaa yake binafsi. Hatujawahi kushuhudia kutoka Jumuiya ya Taasisi za Kiislamu Tanzania jambo lolote la maendeleo zaidi ya ghasia za maandamano, kupora misikiti na kudandia matukio na kuwachangisha Waislamu fedha, mwishoni mwa maandamano hayo huishia kuwatapeli waumini fedha zao ambazo huishia mifukoni mwa Ponda na wenzake.
"Ni kigenge cha watu wachache wenye kufuata madhehebu ya Mawahabi ambao kwa mujibu wa itikadi yao wanaamini kwamba Muislamu yeyote asiyefuata itikadi yao basi huyo siyo Muislamu na hafai kuwa kiongozi kwa ngazi yoyote ile"
"Vurugu, chokochoko na ghasia za uvamizi hazikuanzia Bakwata, wamekuwa wakifanya hivyo sehemu mbalimbali mikoani kwa kuvamia na kuteka misikiti na kuwaondoa viongozi waliochaguliwa kihalali kwa nguvu na udhalilishaji mkubwa na hatimaye kupora na kuhodhi rasilimali za misikiti hiyo."
"Wamekuwa wakiendesha mafunzo ya karate kwenye misikiti hiyo waliyoiteka na kuikalia kimabavu ili waweze kuendeleza dhuluma yao ya uporaji wa Misikiti na vituo vingine vya Kiislamu."
Ni vitendo vinavyokiuka maadili ya Uislamu. Kwa sababu hiyo nawaonya na kuwatahadharisha Waislamu wa madhehebu yote kuepuka vitendo vya uvunjaji wa sheria unaofanywa na kikundi hiki cha watu wachache.
Source: Mwananchi 21.09.2012
Mimi najaribu kutafuta ukweli katika haya anayosema mufti. Naombeni wanaofahamu vizuri CV ya Ponda watuwekee hapa.
Je ni kweli kuwa Sheikh Ponda ni wa dhehebu la Wahabi?
Tumekusikia Bw. Luis Sendeu, msemaji wa Mufti wa Bakwata !
kama hadi linacheza karate msikitini litakuja kuwa gaidi hili.. Namsihi mufti kama huyo ponda hajasoma bakwata waandae ilmu ya UPE ili type hzo za ponda wapelekwe
Niwarudishe kwenye topic: Anayejua CV ya Ponda naomba atuwekee hapa.
Sheikh Ponda ni mtu maarufu na ana mvuto mkubwa hapa Tanzania.
Watu maarufu wa namna hii huibua maswali mengi: nini siri ya mafanikio yake? Amesoma wapi? Amefanya nini kabla ya hapa alipo leo.
Kutuwekea hapa CV ya Ponda ni kujaribu kuongeza mvuto wa mtu huyu maarufu.
Kwa hiyo tafadhali mtujulishe huyu mtu alizaliwa wapi? lini?
Alikulia wapi? Alisoma shule gani? Mwaka gani? Amehitimu nini?
Ana uzoefu gani wa kazi? Wapi? Kwa miaka mingapi? ndio CV tunaomba ya Sheikh Issa Ponda.
yes sir!!! you are right 100%. Kwenda shule ni marufuku kwa ile dini ya ulalamishi na kama ukienda shule basi wewe ni kafir na unaenda kinyume na Muddy. Jamaa ndo alichokuwa anamaanisha hicho nadhani. Hata Muddy mwenyewe aliambiwa ''iqra!!'' yaani soma!!..................akajibu: nitasomaje mie, wakati wajua mimi sijui kuthoooma wala kuandika mwendhiooooooooo!!!!!!.......................................Hawa walalamishi wote unaowaona wanaandika andika hapa ni Makafir coz wanaenda kinyume na mafundisho ya Muddy ila Ponda ndo muislamu swaafi, hajui kusoma wala kuandika
bora kuabudu msalaba kuliko kuabudu mtu aliyekuwa anabandua vitoto vya miaka tisa, na aliyekuwa ana mizigo tisa, halafu alivyo mnafiki wengine wanatakiwa wawe na mizigo minne tu wakati anayeabudiwa alikuwa na mizigo tisa! Wakiulizwa inakuaje hapo utasikia oooh, alikuwa anawasaidia tu wajane, unawasaidia ndio uwabandue?