Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

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Kweli!! Tena nilikua sija angalia vizuri tuta lao wanalilinda kwa mawe na kokote! No wonder mvu ili fanya yake.. huo ujenzi wa kupanga mawe ni very cheap. Hilo zege lilo wekwa na Yapi ni mkataba. Compare and contrast, the beautiful and the ugly View attachment 962900View attachment 962902

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Wapumbavu humu ndani! hudai Chinese first class! Halafu mifereji haipo smooth haijanyooka na pia mawe yamepangwa!

Kwa SGR ya Kenya Drainage wanamwaga zege alafu juu ndo waongezea hizo tiles kulingana na material zinazopatikana kwa hio section

Hii hapa picha ya section nyengine ikijengwa, hapo nimeweka mishale miwili inaonyesha eneo lilomwagiwa zege na eneo lilitobandikwa tiles

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Mmeshindwa kujibu maswali muhimu kwa kuleta data , mmebaki kutafuta visababu vya kujiliwaza na sababu za amabzo hazipimiki!!!
 
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Kwa SGR ya Kenya Drainage wanamwaga zege alafu juu ndo waongezea hizo tiles kulingana na material zinazopatikana kwa hio section

Hii hapa picha ya section nyengine ikijengwa, hapo nimeweka mishale miwili inaonyesha eneo lilomwagiwa zege na eneo lilitobandikwa tiles

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Mmeshindwa kujibu maswali muhimu kwa kuleta data , mmebaki kutafuta visababu vya kujiliwaza na sababu za amabzo hazipimiki!!!
Sasa ww ulitegemea hayo mawe yapangwe juu ya udongo! Lazima wa chukue mchanga mwingi wachanganye na cement kidogo wamwage then ndyo wapange hayo mawe. Zege la Yapi siyo kama hiyo layer unayo tuonyesha, kuna ratio inatumika ambayo inaifanya ikae miaka zaidi ya mia & its expensive. Mchina angeiweka ile asingeweka hayo mawe kwa juu na mvua isinge weza kuisomba kama ilivyo tokea
 
Sasa ww ulitegemea hayo mawe yapangwe juu ya udongo! Lazima wa chukue mchanga mwingi wachanganye na cement kidogo wamwage then ndyo wapange hayo mawe. Zege la Yapi siyo kama hiyo layer unayo tuonyesha, kuna ratio inatumika ambayo inaifanya ikae miaka zaidi ya mia & its expensive. Mchina angeiweka ile asingeweka hayo mawe kwa juu na mvua isinge weza kuisomba kama ilivyo tokea
Uko poa Sana Kwa kucheza mchezo wa jitungia hadithi. Lakini tukirudi Kwa reality, haukua hapo wakichanganya zege Kwa sgr Kenya wala Tz ....zero substance, zero actual evidence.... Just more crap
 
Uko poa Sana Kwa kucheza mchezo wa jitungia hadithi. Lakini tukirudi Kwa reality, haukua hapo wakichanganya zege Kwa sgr Kenya wala Tz ....zero substance, zero actual evidence.... Just more crap
wacha unyoko wewe quality inajionyesha usilazimishe ujinga wa wachina na mitaro yenu ya kipumbavu!
 
Umetumia tena picha ya 2016 ambapo sgr ilikua inajengwa na kukawa na mafuriko..... Hata ukiañgalia slop protection ilikua bado.... Mmeshindwa kujibu maswali kabisa....
whats the difference btn the two drainage systems in the two pictures? I see stones being attached with cement!
 
whats the difference btn the two drainage systems in the two pictures? I see stones being attached with cement!
The difference with the one in 2016 is that they have not even built the drainage pipes that were supposed to take water to the other side, and you can also see thatthey had just begun placing about 2 metersof slop protection on the high embankment to prevent soil erosion, the rest of the section is just bare sand, this sand is the one that washed away..

A completed section would look like this, with complete slop protection
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hilo eneo lililopatwa na mafuriko 2016 wakati wa ujenzi lilikua bado ni mchanga mtupu
 
Ingekua reli haijajengwa na high embankment sikuhio reli ingekua ilisombwa na maji kama vile reli ya Tazara.....



Alafu nilikua sitaki kuingilia SGR -Tz lakini hio drainage ni ndogo/fupi sana, eti hapo ndo mnatarajia kuzulia mafuriko ya siku hizi?, Ihopekuna drainage nyengine inayopita na nyuma ya huo mlima
this drainageis too small/shallow
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Ingekua reli haijajengwa na high embankment sikuhio reli ingekua ilisombwa na maji kama vile reli ya Tazara.....



Alafu nilikua sitaki kuingilia SGR -Tz lakini hio drainage ni ndogo/fupi sana, eti hapo ndo mnatarajia kuzulia mafuriko ya siku hizi?, Ihopekuna drainage nyengine inayopita na nyuma ya huo mlima

that is TAZARA fool built since 1960s ironically by the same company that builds Kenya's SGR!
 
Ingekua reli haijajengwa na high embankment sikuhio reli ingekua ilisombwa na maji kama vile reli ya Tazara.....



Alafu nilikua sitaki kuingilia SGR -Tz lakini hio drainage ni ndogo/fupi sana, eti hapo ndo mnatarajia kuzulia mafuriko ya siku hizi?, Ihopekuna drainage nyengine inayopita na nyuma ya huo mlima
this drainageis too small/shallow
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Mvua iliyonyesha Kenya ilinyesha tanzania pia and nothing happened! Hydrology is not ur thing
 
The difference with the one in 2016 is that they have not even built the drainage pipes that were supposed to take water to the other side, and you can also see thatthey had just begun placing about 2 metersof slop protection on the high embankment to prevent soil erosion, the rest of the section is just bare sand, this sand is the one that washed away..

A completed section would look like this, with complete slop protection
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hilo eneo lililopatwa na mafuriko 2016 wakati wa ujenzi lilikua bado ni mchanga mtupu
Acha kujitete bro wakat mwengine mkubali kua mlikosea na hasa kwenye hio SGR mkubali tu kua mchina aliwachakaza mbaya na huo ndio ukweli😂😂😂😂😂
 
Ingekua reli haijajengwa na high embankment sikuhio reli ingekua ilisombwa na maji kama vile reli ya Tazara.....



Alafu nilikua sitaki kuingilia SGR -Tz lakini hio drainage ni ndogo/fupi sana, eti hapo ndo mnatarajia kuzulia mafuriko ya siku hizi?, Ihopekuna drainage nyengine inayopita na nyuma ya huo mlima
this drainageis too small/shallow
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Hiyo mitaro inawekwa kutokana na mahitaji ya eneo husika, mbona hili liko wazi! Umekosa point msee. Ofcoz maji yana wekewa njia yakutoka siyo kwamba yatabebwa kutoka Dar-Mwz. Angalia picha ulizo tuma ukubwa wa mitaro uko sawa!!?? Tumia akili buda
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The difference with the one in 2016 is that they have not even built the drainage pipes that were supposed to take water to the other side, and you can also see thatthey had just begun placing about 2 metersof slop protection on the high embankment to prevent soil erosion, the rest of the section is just bare sand, this sand is the one that washed away..

A completed section would look like this, with complete slop protection
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hilo eneo lililopatwa na mafuriko 2016 wakati wa ujenzi lilikua bado ni mchanga mtupu
Eti eneo lililopatwa na mafuriko 2016 wakati wa ujenzi lilikua bado ni mchanga mtupu!!! Wakenya mmepigwa the sooner you admit this the better for you. Angalia hiyo picha ya chini ni 2018 SGR imeisha na matumizi yame anza mpaka mnyama amegongwa ila bado ni michanga mitupu. Hapa mafuriko yakija hesabuni hasara.
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Hiyo mitaro inawekwa kutokana na mahitaji ya eneo husika, mbona hili liko wazi! Umekosa point msee. Ofcoz maji yana wekewa njia yakutoka siyo kwamba yatabebwa kutoka Dar-Mwz. Angalia picha ulizo tuma ukubwa wa mitaro uko sawa!!?? Tumia akili budaView attachment 963341View attachment 963342

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jamaa ni fala kweli vitu vidogo kama moving water forces vinamshinda! Kiufupi huu mtaro ulipaswa kuwa as smooth as can be! halafu isitoshe kuna another layer coming after laying rails for SGR tanzania!
 
Labda nao ni subcontractors. Kwani nafahamu hata Wachina wapo kama subcontractors kwa kazi fulani fulani. Sitegemei main contractor pekee anaweza kufanya mambo yote kwenye mradi mkubwa.
Wareno wanatoka Moro kuja Dar kimya kimya Mturuki ndio anatamba na media.
 
Labda nao ni subcontractors. Kwani nafahamu hata Wachina wapo kama subcontractors kwa kazi fulani fulani. Sitegemei main contractor pekee anaweza kufanya mambo yote kwenye mradi mkubwa.
Siyo Sub ni JV ile. kutoka Moro kwenda Dom ndio Yap wapo peke yao.
 
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