Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

[Geza Ulole]

Gripen is the cheapest 4th generation fighter plane with Swing roles capabilities..others are Euro fighter typhoon €90mil and Dassalut raffle €75mil..
For $30mil Gripen is the best ..

JPM huwa anapita humu, hashindwi kuwachapa Saab na $300mln akavuta 10 hivi!

 

[Bantugbro]

Gripen is the cheapest 4th generation fighter plane with Swing roles capabilities..others are Euro fighter typhoon €90mil and Dassalut raffle €75mil..
For $30mil Gripen is the best ..

Maintanance costs za Gripen ziko juu sana, wee acha tu.

 

[The best 007]

JPM huwa anapita humu, hashindwi kuwachapa Saab na $300mln akavuta 10 hivi!

Kweli kabisa mkuu.

 

[Lusematic]

JPM huwa anapita humu, hashindwi kuwachapa Saab na $300mln akavuta 10 hivi!

huwa hakosei Mr,President

 

[Tony254]

Uhuru anatumia fokker kama hii!



Kama zinazotumiwa na baraza letu la mawaziri

Fokker ni ndege inayoheshimika. Sijui ni kwa nini unaidharau? So what kama Waziri wenu wanaitumia? Hilo halina maana kuwa Fokker ni ndege lenye hadhi hafifu kwa sababu mawaziri wenu wanaitumia. Mbona unaidharau Fokker?

 

[Geza Ulole]

Fokker ni ndege inayoheshimika. Sijui ni kwa nini unaidharau? So what kama Waziri wenu wanaitumia? Hilo halina maana kuwa Fokker ni ndege lenye hadhi hafifu kwa sababu mawaziri wenu wanaitumia. Mbona unaidharau Fokker?

unajua kampuni ya Fokker imekufa haipo? nilikuwa najibu bwege mmoja aliyeanza wivu! Nilikuwa najaribu kumuonyesha jinsi mlivyo nyuma kwa kutumia ndege za zamani!

 

[Tony254]

unataka classified information? mbona usiamini hiyo website inayoripoti news za uhakika? leta evidence ya secondhand F5 mlizonunua toka Jordan!

Tanzanian Air Force takes delivery of 14 new J-7G fighter jets​

Posted On 25th November 2013

Written by Oscar Nkala
The Tanzanian People’s Defence Force (TPDF) has swapped 12 old Chinese-made J-7 fighter aircraft with 14 new J-7Gs, as the country forges ahead with the modernisation of its aerial defence capabilities.

IHS Janes reports that the new fighter aircraft fleet includes 12 single-seat Chengdu J-7G jets (designated F-7TN in Tanzanian Air Force service) and two dual seat J-7Ns (designated FT-7TN in Tanzania) which were ordered in 2009 and delivered in 2011.

The fighters, which are now deployed at TPDF air bases in Mwanza and the capital Dar es Salaam, are armed with the Type 30-1 30 mm cannon and are equipped with five hardpoints for rockets, missiles and bombs. An upgraded Chinese copy of the MiG-21, the J-7G can reach a maximum speed of 2 200 km per hour and has a radius of 850 kilometres.

The J-7G features a Chinese-made KLJ-6E radar, which has replaced the French-made Selex Galileo Grifo 7 radar featured on earlier models of the J-7 such as those which were exported to Namibia and Nigeria in 2009 and 2010 respectively.

The Tanzanian Air Force has few combat aircraft, with only six K-8 jet trainers being the only other armed fixed wing aircraft in its fleet.

Last year, the Tanzania Ministry of Defence said the government will soon spend more on the procurement of defence equipment for the army and the air force as country strengthens its intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities in the face of security threats such as maritime piracy and trans-national and home-grown terrorism.

The government is also seeking better air and naval defence capabilities to defend newly-found offshore hydrocarbon resources and secure its territorial waters against economic crimes such as illegal fishing. Last year, Tanzania mobilised its defence forces and threatened to go to war with neighbouring Malawi in a feud over exploratory drilling works which were taking place in an oil-rich maritime territory in Lake Nyasa which borders the two countries.

Malawi insisted that the drilling was happening on its side of the marine boundary while Tanzania asserted that the oil-fields fall within its maritime domain. Mediation efforts on the boundary dispute are still in progress.

Via: http://www.defenceweb.co.za/

Nchi yenye hata raddar hamkuwa nayo, mlikuwa mnategemea sisi tuwalindie anga yenu halafu unakuja hapa kujisifu kuhusu Chengdu J-7G? Unajua fighter jet ni useless kama hamna raddar ya kuwajulisha ikiwa ndege ya adui imeingia ndani ya airspace yenu. Yaani mlikuwa mnategemea adui akiingia kwenye airspace yenu Kenya ije iwajulishe kuwa adui ameingia. Yaani upuuzi mtupu. Yaani mlikuwa completely blind kwa kinachofanyika kwenye airspace yenu kwa miaka zaidi ya hamsini since independence. Yaani mumefunga raddar juzi tu. Hii ni aibu kwa Waafrika wote. Hata ni bahati hakuna nchi yoyoye iliyoamua kuingia kwenye airspace yenu na kufanya mashambulizi

 

[Tony254]

Halafu kwa wenye wanasema SGR ni white elephant someni hapa

How SGR is breathing new life into Mombasa port | Business Daily

 

[Geza Ulole]

Nchi yenye hata raddar hamkuwa nayo, mlikuwa mnategemea sisi tuwalindie anga yenu halafu unakuja hapa kujisifu kuhusu Chengdu J-7G? Unajua fighter jet ni useless kama hamna raddar ya kuwajulisha ikiwa ndege ya adui imeingia ndani ya airspace yenu. Yaani mlikuwa mnategemea adui akiingia kwenye airspace yenu Kenya ije iwajulishe kuwa adui ameingia. Yaani upuuzi mtupu. Yaani mlikuwa completely blind kwa kinachofanyika kwenye airspace yenu kwa miaka zaidi ya hamsini since independence. Yaani mumefunga raddar juzi tu. Hii ni aibu kwa Waafrika wote. Hata ni bahati hakuna nchi yoyoye iliyoamua kuingia kwenye airspace yenu na kufanya mashambulizi

Kwa radar za kijeshi hamtufikii! tulikuwa tunawategemea kwa civilian radars! Mind u "tulikuwa" is a past tense for now! try not be desperate!

 

[Mkwanzania]

Nchi yenye hata raddar hamkuwa nayo, mlikuwa mnategemea sisi tuwalindie anga yenu halafu unakuja hapa kujisifu kuhusu Chengdu J-7G? Unajua fighter jet ni useless kama hamna raddar ya kuwajulisha ikiwa ndege ya adui imeingia ndani ya airspace yenu. Yaani mlikuwa mnategemea adui akiingia kwenye airspace yenu Kenya ije iwajulishe kuwa adui ameingia. Yaani upuuzi mtupu. Yaani mlikuwa completely blind kwa kinachofanyika kwenye airspace yenu kwa miaka zaidi ya hamsini since independence. Yaani mumefunga raddar juzi tu. Hii ni aibu kwa Waafrika wote. Hata ni bahati hakuna nchi yoyoye iliyoamua kuingia kwenye airspace yenu na kufanya mashambulizi

Tulikuwa tunawalipa, sasa tungeingiliwa bila nyie walinzi wetu tunaowalipa kutuambia mngeipata fresh.

 

[Tz_one]

Maintanance costs za Gripen ziko juu sana, wee acha tu.

Compared to Dassult rafale na Eurofighter bora grippen..sijajua compared na Sukhoi au MIG..but i think MiGs 35 and Su 35 but are more superior ..
Mig 35 is around 60$mil
Su35 - is around 80$mil

My conclusion..we should go for Su-30MKM or Grippen both price range from $30mil to 50$mil

 

[Tony254]

unajua kampuni ya Fokker imekufa haipo? nilikuwa najibu bwege mmoja aliyeanza wivu! Nilikuwa najaribu kumuonyesha jinsi mlivyo nyuma kwa kutumia ndege za zamani!

Ni kweli kampuni imekufa lakini ndege yenyewe ipo very reliable. Lakini naelewa lengo lako ni kutucheka kwa kutumia ndege nzee.

 

[Lusematic]

Nchi yenye hata raddar hamkuwa nayo, mlikuwa mnategemea sisi tuwalindie anga yenu halafu unakuja hapa kujisifu kuhusu Chengdu J-7G? Unajua fighter jet ni useless kama hamna raddar ya kuwajulisha ikiwa ndege ya adui imeingia ndani ya airspace yenu. Yaani mlikuwa mnategemea adui akiingia kwenye airspace yenu Kenya ije iwajulishe kuwa adui ameingia. Yaani upuuzi mtupu. Yaani mlikuwa completely blind kwa kinachofanyika kwenye airspace yenu kwa miaka zaidi ya hamsini since independence. Yaani mumefunga raddar juzi tu. Hii ni aibu kwa Waafrika wote. Hata ni bahati hakuna nchi yoyoye iliyoamua kuingia kwenye airspace yenu na kufanya mashambulizi

umeongea pumba sana,,,,masuala yakiusalama kwa upande wa uvamizi ama kuvamiwa kwa nchi hizo ni shughuli za kijeshi na huwa zinajitegemea ni very secret tofauti na urahisi unaouchukulia......
mngejaribu kuvamia halafu mngeisoma namba na ungekuja na majibu...

unalinganisha mchanga na maji kama masuala yenu ya kiusalama yana tegemea hizo radar mlizoIpachika kwenye airports pekee poleni sana aisee mtakuwa ni wapuuzi sana

 

[Kafrican]

logistical facilities sprouting up along the SGR corridor mainly Mombasa, Athi river and Nairobi

Conveyor belts and storage facilities for refrigerated goods, grain, coal,clinker(used for manufacture of cement) etc ...

 

[Justinr]

Nchi yenye hata raddar hamkuwa nayo, mlikuwa mnategemea sisi tuwalindie anga yenu halafu unakuja hapa kujisifu kuhusu Chengdu J-7G? Unajua fighter jet ni useless kama hamna raddar ya kuwajulisha ikiwa ndege ya adui imeingia ndani ya airspace yenu. Yaani mlikuwa mnategemea adui akiingia kwenye airspace yenu Kenya ije iwajulishe kuwa adui ameingia. Yaani upuuzi mtupu. Yaani mlikuwa completely blind kwa kinachofanyika kwenye airspace yenu kwa miaka zaidi ya hamsini since independence. Yaani mumefunga raddar juzi tu. Hii ni aibu kwa Waafrika wote. Hata ni bahati hakuna nchi yoyoye iliyoamua kuingia kwenye airspace yenu na kufanya mashambulizi

Jua kutofautisha civilian radar na military radar tulikuwa na civilian radar moja ila za jeshi ...usiguse...na kwa sasa iyo ni past tense

 

[Tony254]

Compared to Dassult rafale na Eurofighter bora grippen..sijajua compared na Sukhoi au MIG..but i think MiGs 35 and Su 35 but are more superior ..
Mig 35 is around 60$mil
Su35 - is around 80$milView attachment 1632971View attachment 1632972View attachment 1632973

My conclusion..we should go for Su-30MKM or Grippen both price range from $30mil to 50$mil

Maintenance cost ya jets za Urusi huwa chini. Nadhani hio munaweza kuimudu. Sukhoi na MiG. Hata Grippen nadhani munaweza kuimudu.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Ni kweli kampuni imekufa lakini ndege yenyewe ipo very reliable. Lakini naelewa lengo lako ni kutucheka kwa kutumia ndege nzee.

wakati mwingine msisababishe watu kufungua mafaili yenu mna midege mingi mibovu na mikuukuu! kuanzia KDF kuja Police kuja ndege za Rais!

 

[Kafrican]

Nairobi- Naivasha

 

[Tony254]

wakati mwingine msisababishe watu kufungua mafaili yenu mna midege mingi mibovu na mikuukuu! kuanzia KDF kuja Police kuja ndege za Rais!

Hio inaonyesha kwamba Kenya tuna uwezo wa kuservice na kumaintain ndege kwa miaka mingi. Halafu Airforce ya Kenya ina helicopters zaidi ya 30 na karibu zote zimenunuliwa since 2011. Kwanza tuna MD-500 nyingi sana.

 

[Kafrican]

Nairobi National Park Viaduct