Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

[IamLee]

There is no comparison to the SGR so far in this region including Ethiopia

Haha this is NYC(Nairobi Yetu City not New York City)

 

[Geza Ulole]

You may be right on this Geza, Sh 700 X 1200 Passengers X 10 (Trips per day, Five from Both Sides) X 365 days
=Sh 3,066,000,000 in a year
327,000,000,000/3,066,000,000 =101 years!!!!!!!!!!!

If factored in the TEUs
Sh. 50,000 X 160 TEU's X 30 Trips Per day(From Both Sides) X 365 days = 8,760,000,000 +3,066,000,000 =11,826,000,000

327,000,000,000/11,826,000,000 = 28 Years!!!

Even if we add the first class the minimum time this thing can be paid for is 30 years

If wear and tear is considered and payments to workers, the least time possible for repayment is 50 Years!!

Hatari hiii!!

But i don't know the maths involved in all this scenario, that is just my guess

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Kenya’s standard gauge railway. Government plans to upgrade the new railway line to electric in four year’s time. FILE PHOTO | NMG

By ALLAN OLINGO

Posted Monday, June 12 2017 at 15:03

IN SUMMARY

Uganda is expecting its power generation to reach 1,500MW in 2019, after the Karuma and Isimba dams inject an additional 783MW into te national gridTanzania is banking on the development of its vast gas finds into electricity to increase its capacity and also provide a dedicated electric line for the SGR network, once completed.

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Kenya to maintain sections of metre gauge rail

Uganda and Tanzania have decided to have their new standard gauge railway lines built with electric capability, as they plan to eventually upgrade to electric trains when energy supply needs are eventually met.
Kenya says it will upgrade its new SGR line to electric in four year’s time as the design allows for the addition of a single electric line at a cost of $480 million, once the power supply becomes dependable, according to Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia.

The electric component will cost 15 per cent of the money already spent on the construction of the 472km Mombasa-Nairobi line.

“We didn’t want to construct an electric line since we don’t have a dependable source of electricity. So we had to construct a diesel locomotive line but with a capability of upgrading it,” said Mr Macharia.

Uganda’s SGR project co-ordinator Kasingye Kyamugamba said that they have chosen to have an electric element incorporated in their project because, “We have been assured of adequate power from the ongoing energy projects at Karuma and Isimba. This decision was also based on the costing factor, given that after completion, the long term costs of operation and maintenance will be cheaper than diesel.”

Uganda and Tanzania are planning to buy trains with an electric element. And while Kenya’s trains run on diesel engines, Ethiopia has the China Class 2, with a mixture of diesel and electrical engines.



The Ethiopia-Djibouti train line in Addis Ababa. The 750 kilometre railway, built by two Chinese companies, links Addis Ababa to the Red Sea port city of Djibouti in about 10 hours. AFP PHOTO | ZACHARIAS ABUBEKER

In February, Tanzania awarded Turkish firm Yapi Merkezi and Portuguese firm Mota-Engil the $1.2 billion contract to build the 205km first phase of the line that will run from Dar es Salaam to Morogoro and is expected to be completed by October 2019.

READ: Turkish, Portuguese firms win bid to construct Tanzania’s SGR

The design includes an electric element with a speed of 160 km/h for the passenger trains, and a mix that will allow for diesel engines, with a 120 km/h for the cargo trains.

These electric railroads will however depend on the availability of electricity in a region that is constantly in deficit.

Uganda is expecting its power generation to reach 1,500MW in 2019, after the two dams inject an additional 783MW — Karuma at 600MW and Isimba Hydropower at 183MW) into the national grid.

The country’s current peak power system demand stands at 500MW against an installed generation capacity of 851.5MW, and total power generation stands at 535MW.
Tanzania’s power generation capacity currently stands at about 1,500 MW, against a demand of 1,352 MW.

The country is banking on the development of its vast gas finds into electricity to increase its capacity and also provide a dedicated electric line for the SGR network, once completed.

Uganda, Tanzania to go electric in railway line project

 

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You TAZARA rail has not been able to pay back itself, 40 years later, infact you are asking for money to repair it...
The rail was designed to carry maximum of just 5 million tonnes a year, by 1986 it was carrying only 1.6 Million tonnes, It then got even worse



Now you can only dream of reaching 400,000 tonnes a year

Tanzania: TAZARA Sets to Double Cargo Movement By June 2017
Tanzania-Zambia Railway Authority (TAZARA) is set to move about 380,000 metric tons of cargo by June 2017, an increase of over 100 per cent compared to the past, a senior official said on Saturday.

Bruno Ching'andu, TAZARA Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer (CEO), said that the volume will be realized due to new leadership with vision and wide managerial experiences as well as commitments shown by governments of moving traffic from road to rail.

The 2014/2015 fiscal year was the worst when it comes to the TAZARA performance whereby the authority managed to move only 88,000 metric tons, though things slightly improved in the just-ended financial year, whereby the Chinese-built railway line moved 130,000 metric tons of cargo.



Tazara: Buggered, but can be fixed | Daily Maverick
‘Sklikktery klak… screeee… sklikkerty klak’ shaked, rattled and rolled the Tazara railway for 50 hours on the journey between Kapiri Mposhi in central Zambia to Dar es Salaam, 1,860kms away on the Indian Ocean. The brainchild of presidents Kenneth Kaunda and Mwalimu Julius Nyerere, a shared centrepiece of African solidarity, development and anti-colonialism, Tazara is today operational with four scheduled passenger services and infrequent freight trains, but only just. Last year Tazara carried less than 200,000 tonnes of freight, a long way from the five million tonne capacity installed by the Chinese in October 1975



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First chew that bone before looking at other peoples meat, your rail built only 40 Years ago is in a worse conditiong than our RVR built 122 years ago!

 

[Geza Ulole]

You TAZARA rail has not been able to pay back itself, 40 years later, infact you are asking for money to repair it...
The rail was designed to carry maximum of just 5 million tonnes a year, by 1986 it was carrying only 1.6 Million tonnes, It then got even worse



Now you can only dream of reaching 400,000 tonnes a year

Tanzania: TAZARA Sets to Double Cargo Movement By June 2017
Tanzania-Zambia Railway Authority (TAZARA) is set to move about 380,000 metric tons of cargo by June 2017, an increase of over 100 per cent compared to the past, a senior official said on Saturday.

Bruno Ching'andu, TAZARA Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer (CEO), said that the volume will be realized due to new leadership with vision and wide managerial experiences as well as commitments shown by governments of moving traffic from road to rail.

The 2014/2015 fiscal year was the worst when it comes to the TAZARA performance whereby the authority managed to move only 88,000 metric tons, though things slightly improved in the just-ended financial year, whereby the Chinese-built railway line moved 130,000 metric tons of cargo.



Tazara: Buggered, but can be fixed | Daily Maverick
‘Sklikktery klak… screeee… sklikkerty klak’ shaked, rattled and rolled the Tazara railway for 50 hours on the journey between Kapiri Mposhi in central Zambia to Dar es Salaam, 1,860kms away on the Indian Ocean. The brainchild of presidents Kenneth Kaunda and Mwalimu Julius Nyerere, a shared centrepiece of African solidarity, development and anti-colonialism, Tazara is today operational with four scheduled passenger services and infrequent freight trains, but only just. Last year Tazara carried less than 200,000 tonnes of freight, a long way from the five million tonne capacity installed by the Chinese in October 1975



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First chew that bone before looking at other peoples meat, your rail built only 40 Years ago is in a worse conditiong than our RVR built 122 years ago!

There was a time it was carrying over 3 mln tonnes of cargo per year when global copper demand was higher!

 

[Kafrican]

You may be right on this Geza, Sh 700 X 1200 Passengers X 10 (Trips per day, Five from Both Sides) X 365 days
=Sh 3,066,000,000 in a year
327,000,000,000/3,066,000,000 =101 years!!!!!!!!!!!

If factored in the TEUs
Sh. 50,000 X 160 TEU's X 30 Trips Per day(From Both Sides) X 365 days = 8,760,000,000 +3,066,000,000 =11,826,000,000

327,000,000,000/11,826,000,000 = 28 Years!!!

Even if we add the first class the minimum time this thing can be paid for is 30 years

If wear and tear is considered and payments to workers, the least time possible for repayment is 50 Years!!

Hatari hiii!!

But i don't know the maths involved in all this scenario, that is just my guess

I think kuna zero moja umesahau hapo nimehighlight na bold-green

50,000Ksh * 160TEU * 30 trips/day * 365 Days = 87,600,000,000 and not 8,760,000,000.... Yani Ksh 87.6 Billion (a cool $800 Million dollars) and not Ksh8.76Billion


So that 87,600,000,000 cargo revenue plus 3,066,000,000 passenger revenue = 90,666,000,000.

But anyway, your variables are not accurate (between 160 TEU or 30 trips/day) = That is equivalent to 4,800 TEU per day, This accounts to all of Kenyas daily cargo traffic along the Nairobi-Mombasa highway..

Slowdown fears as imports set for tighter screening
Tuesday, May 26, 2015 18:11 By GEORGE OMONDI, omondi@ke.nationmedia.com
It is estimated that about 4,000 trucks use the road per day, causing massive traffic jam in Mombasa and delaying shipment to Nairobi and the region’s landlocked states.

That is a 2015 artcle when Mombasa port was handling 22Million tonnes of cargo with 4,000 trucks a day, in 2016 we handled 27Million tonnes 27/22*4000 = 4,900 trucks which is roughly close to your 4,800TEU which is all trucks per day..

The initial expectation for the SGR was that it would handle only 40% of the cargo from Mombasa port, so 40/100*4800 TEUs = 1,920 TEU per day for the SGR (atleas, That is the minimun its guaranteed to handle).



So with that in mind

50,000Ksh * 1,920 TEUs a day(to and fro) * 365 days = 35,040,000,000 (Ksh35Billion or approx $350Million a year)



Dont even count the revenue for perssenger lets assume that the 3,066,000,000(3 Billion sh) generated from perssenger side will be enough to pay salaries and account for low level maintanance of the locomotives..
i.e lets say total employees 600 * 70,000(avarage salary per month) * 12 Months = 504,000,000(504 Million)
So from the 3.07 Billion total revenue from perssenger after you pay salaries you will still be left with 2.6Billion for maintanance and diesel fuel cost.






So using only the revenue from cargo to pay the loan after the 5-10 grace period it would take only


327,000,000,000/35,040,000,000 = 9 Yeasr!!!


even if you were t account the whole $9Billion dollars of loan up to Malaba it would still take

900,000,000,000/35,040,000,00 =25.7 Years to pay back the loan




We have not even touched the rai levy fund which taxes 1.5% of goods imported through the port, it generates Ksh22 Billion a year, this is the money that the government has used to fund its 10% of the SGR and also pay for land compensation, the govenment plans to use the levy fund to build the Nairobi commuter railway, after that the rest of the money collected will wo to paying back the loan so that we can get done with it sooner rather than later..
Remember this rail is expected to reach Uganda by 2020-2021, by then the cargo volume for import and export would have increased to 35Million tonnes from the current 27M...

So dont let anyone give you any dooms day prediction eti sijui it was not worth it, sijui it wont pay itself... Myfoot!! The Chinese are not stupid.. Why do you think they want to oversee operations and maintain the Rail for the first 10 years, by then they would have made enough return on their investment

 

[Kafrican]

There was a time it was carrying over 3 mln tonnes of cargo per year when global copper demand was higher!

Whether that is true or not, right now you can only dream of transporting 400,000 tonnes, that is your promised land .. Only 40 years later.

RVR handles upwards of 1 Million tonnes! Build 122 Years ago!!!

Rail freight traffic increases in Kenya
RIFT Valley Railways (RVR), the concessionaire operating the 1160km Kenya Uganda Railway, managed to increase freight traffic by 24.3% last year.

The acquisition of 20 rebuilt GE locomotives from NRE coupled with the rehabilitation of units from its existing motive power fleet has enabled RVR to increase its haulage capacity.

According to a report by Kenya's National Bureau of Statistics, RVR moved 1.5 million tonnes of freight in 2014 compared with 1.2 million tonnes the previous year.

 

[Kafrican]

Meanwhile, Kenyas finance Minister and transport Minister finalize agreements on how they are going to syncronize the construction of the SGR phases so that by the time Kenyas SGR reaches Malaba border, Ugandas rail will be 90% done ready to connect without delains

 

[Edward Wanjala]

I think kuna zero moja umesahau hapo nimehighlight na bold-green

50,000Ksh * 160TEU * 30 trips/day * 365 Days = 87,600,000,000 and not 8,760,000,000.... Yani Ksh 87.6 Billion (a cool $800 Million dollars) and not Ksh8.76Billion


So that 87,600,000,000 cargo revenue plus 3,066,000,000 passenger revenue = 90,666,000,000.

But anyway, your variables are not accurate (between 160 TEU or 30 trips/day) = That is equivalent to 4,800 TEU per day, This accounts to all of Kenyas daily cargo traffic along the Nairobi-Mombasa highway..

Slowdown fears as imports set for tighter screening
Tuesday, May 26, 2015 18:11 By GEORGE OMONDI, omondi@ke.nationmedia.com
It is estimated that about 4,000 trucks use the road per day, causing massive traffic jam in Mombasa and delaying shipment to Nairobi and the region’s landlocked states.

That is a 2015 artcle when Mombasa port was handling 22Million tonnes of cargo with 4,000 trucks a day, in 2016 we handled 27Million tonnes 27/22*4000 = 4,900 trucks which is roughly close to your 4,800TEU which is all trucks per day..

The initial expectation for the SGR was that it would handle only 40% of the cargo from Mombasa port, so 40/100*4800 TEUs = 1,920 TEU per day for the SGR (atleas, That is the minimun its guaranteed to handle).



So with that in mind

50,000Ksh * 1,920 TEUs a day(to and fro) * 365 days = 35,040,000,000 (Ksh35Billion or approx $350Million a year)



Dont even count the revenue for perssenger lets assume that the 3,066,000,000(3 Billion sh) generated from perssenger side will be enough to pay salaries and account for low level maintanance of the locomotives..
i.e lets say total employees 600 * 70,000(avarage salary per month) * 12 Months = 504,000,000(504 Million)
So from the 3.07 Billion total revenue from perssenger after you pay salaries you will still be left with 2.6Billion for maintanance and diesel fuel cost.






So using only the revenue from cargo to pay the loan after the 5-10 grace period it would take only


327,000,000,000/35,040,000,000 = 9 Yeasr!!!


even if you were t account the whole $9Billion dollars of loan up to Malaba it would still take

900,000,000,000/35,040,000,00 =25.7 Years to pay back the loan




We have not even touched the rai levy fund which taxes 1.5% of goods imported through the port, it generates Ksh22 Billion a year, this is the money that the government has used to fund its 10% of the SGR and also pay for land compensation, the govenment plans to use the levy fund to build the Nairobi commuter railway, after that the rest of the money collected will wo to paying back the loan so that we can get done with it sooner rather than later..
Remember this rail is expected to reach Uganda by 2020-2021, by then the cargo volume for import and export would have increased to 35Million tonnes from the current 27M...

So dont let anyone give you any dooms day prediction eti sijui it was not worth it, sijui it wont pay itself... Myfoot!! The Chinese are not stupid.. Why do you think they want to oversee operations and maintain the Rail for the first 10 years, by then they would have made enough return on their investment

Better that way man i was worried with my mathematics!! Daaaah

All the same government projects are not straight commercial projects like a person starting a matatu business, they are always meant to have a larger impact not only directly

Like SGR has already started having a positive impact on

Tourism
Hotel business,
And Industries.

I think that is the focus of the governments

 

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Kenya’s standard gauge railway. Government plans to upgrade the new railway line to electric in four year’s time. FILE PHOTO | NMG

By ALLAN OLINGO

Posted Monday, June 12 2017 at 15:03

IN SUMMARY

Uganda is expecting its power generation to reach 1,500MW in 2019, after the Karuma and Isimba dams inject an additional 783MW into te national gridTanzania is banking on the development of its vast gas finds into electricity to increase its capacity and also provide a dedicated electric line for the SGR network, once completed.

RELATED STORIES

Kenya to maintain sections of metre gauge rail

Uganda and Tanzania have decided to have their new standard gauge railway lines built with electric capability, as they plan to eventually upgrade to electric trains when energy supply needs are eventually met.
Kenya says it will upgrade its new SGR line to electric in four year’s time as the design allows for the addition of a single electric line at a cost of $480 million, once the power supply becomes dependable, according to Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia.

The electric component will cost 15 per cent of the money already spent on the construction of the 472km Mombasa-Nairobi line.

“We didn’t want to construct an electric line since we don’t have a dependable source of electricity. So we had to construct a diesel locomotive line but with a capability of upgrading it,” said Mr Macharia.

Uganda’s SGR project co-ordinator Kasingye Kyamugamba said that they have chosen to have an electric element incorporated in their project because, “We have been assured of adequate power from the ongoing energy projects at Karuma and Isimba. This decision was also based on the costing factor, given that after completion, the long term costs of operation and maintenance will be cheaper than diesel.”

Uganda and Tanzania are planning to buy trains with an electric element. And while Kenya’s trains run on diesel engines, Ethiopia has the China Class 2, with a mixture of diesel and electrical engines.



The Ethiopia-Djibouti train line in Addis Ababa. The 750 kilometre railway, built by two Chinese companies, links Addis Ababa to the Red Sea port city of Djibouti in about 10 hours. AFP PHOTO | ZACHARIAS ABUBEKER

In February, Tanzania awarded Turkish firm Yapi Merkezi and Portuguese firm Mota-Engil the $1.2 billion contract to build the 205km first phase of the line that will run from Dar es Salaam to Morogoro and is expected to be completed by October 2019.

READ: Turkish, Portuguese firms win bid to construct Tanzania’s SGR

The design includes an electric element with a speed of 160 km/h for the passenger trains, and a mix that will allow for diesel engines, with a 120 km/h for the cargo trains.

These electric railroads will however depend on the availability of electricity in a region that is constantly in deficit.

Uganda is expecting its power generation to reach 1,500MW in 2019, after the two dams inject an additional 783MW — Karuma at 600MW and Isimba Hydropower at 183MW) into the national grid.

The country’s current peak power system demand stands at 500MW against an installed generation capacity of 851.5MW, and total power generation stands at 535MW.
Tanzania’s power generation capacity currently stands at about 1,500 MW, against a demand of 1,352 MW.

The country is banking on the development of its vast gas finds into electricity to increase its capacity and also provide a dedicated electric line for the SGR network, once completed.

Uganda, Tanzania to go electric in railway line project

You want to mean even Tanzania is starting to talk of building to electric standards and upgrading later

 

[Ngokongosha]

Is Kenya sgr going to be more expensive seems the electrification cost not included in the current package.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Is Kenya sgr going to be more expensive seems the electrification cost not included in the current package.

15% more

 

[Geza Ulole]

You want to mean even Tanzania is starting to talk of building to electric standards and upgrading later

Forget to want to mean FYI in the EAC Tanzania will be the first country to roll electric trains. It's confirmed..just like being the first to run steam engines on a meter gauge in 1910 under Germans, diesel engines on a standard cape gauge in 1960s that pretty similar (as both jointed design) with Kenya's current SGR except width (a reason we laugh at ur ushamba).

Just like the first to build a transboundary TAZAMA pipeline plus TIPER refinery to Zambia aside 2 gas pipelines in total about 800km total length from Mtwara and Songosongo to Dar. These two records are until now Kenya has not managed to brake.

We always lead the way n we will continue with Ugandan pipeline + SGR with a port at Tanga for Uganda, South Sudan, Rwanda, DRC n Burundi cargo as we r natural trailblazers ...keep watching

 

[Edward Wanjala]

Forget to want to mean FYI in the EAC Tanzania will be the first country to roll electric trains. It's confirmed..just like being the first to run steam engines on a meter gauge in 1910 under Germans, diesel engines on a standard cape gauge in 1960s that pretty similar (as both jointed design) with Kenya's current SGR except width (a reason we laugh at ur ushamba).

Just like the first to build a transboundary TAZAMA pipeline plus TIPER refinery to Zambia aside 2 gas pipelines in total about 800km total length from Mtwara and Songosongo to Dar. These two records are until now Kenya has not managed to brake.

We always lead the way n we will continue with Ugandan pipeline + SGR with a port at Tanga for Uganda, South Sudan, Rwanda, DRC n Burundi cargo as we r natural trailblazers ...keep watching

The article says build to electric standards, means will be upgraded later just like the Uganda one and the Kenyan one. I thought Tanzania were doing an electric train from the word go!?

 

[Geza Ulole]

The article says build to electric standards, means will be upgraded later just like the Uganda one and the Kenyan one. I thought Tanzania were doing an electric train from the word go!?

In 4 years will Kenya start electrification process if at all funds of over $400 mln are available plus extra funds to convent the locomotives from diesel to electric engines a reason as Kenyans u don't need to laugh at Nigerians (birds of same feathers) as total cost might spiral to a bln US$!

While in Tanzania n Uganda electrification will go in concurrent with the SGR construction u lay a slippers u errect a pole n roll wires over it plus signals plus procuring electric engines our Minister of infrastructure has already placed oders.

I wonder whether Kenya has plan n vision, it is obvious ni wazee wa kukurupuka mnajiita aggressive ati. After realizing u r losing Uganda on incompartibility of ur design, a country u should have involved on ur SGR construction from onstart, u now resort to more costlier process to electrify the railtrack plus the locomotives! It's obvious u r too late..

U need to learn one or two things about regional integration n international relations from Tanzania our Diplomasia and ulinzi colleges that serves for SADC members are there for u.

 

[Edward Wanjala]

In 4 years will Kenya start electrification process if at all funds of over $400 mln are available plus extra funds to convent the locomotives from diesel to electric engines a reason as Kenyans u don't need to laugh at Nigerians (birds of same feathers) as total cost might spiral to a bln US$!

While in Tanzania n Uganda electrification will go in concurrent with the SGR construction u lay a slippers u errect a pole n roll wires over it plus signals plus procuring electric engines our Minister of infrastructure has already placed oders.

I wonder whether Kenya has plan n vision, it is obvious ni wazee wa kukurupuka mnajiita aggressive ati. After realizing u r losing Uganda on incompartibility of ur design, a country u should have involved on ur SGR construction from onstart, u now resort to more costlier process to electrify the railtrack plus the locomotives! It's obvious u r too late..

U need to learn one or two things about regional integration n international relations from Tanzania our diplomas Ian college that serves for SADC members is there for u.

But, look, with all lack of planning, we have developed more than Tanzania and Uganda combined, so it seems our lack of planning is better than your planning!

All the same, SGR Kenya has electricity poles and lines running all the way from Nairobi to Mombasa! It will not be difficult to erect the suspended wires for trains. And the diesel engines can still be used as new electric ones are bought. Something i Know, before Tanzania trains see the light, Kenya will be there too.

Secondly, it is our good planning that informed us of diesel engines. Kenya has no enough power for electric trains. It will invest in power and when we have enough power we will go electric.

All of Our people must get electricity before taking it to the SGR. There are two programs in Kenya, Rural Electrification and Last Mile connectivity. Making sure every Kenyan is connected to electricity.

With enough power from Coal and Nuclear by 2020, we will have bullet trains if we wish.

That is where the difference with Tanzania is, Uganda knew it and they are finishing with power issues, what about Tanzania? I hear you want to import power from Ethiopia, Power Blackouts in Tanzania are the worst in Africa, how will electric trains service? People in Tanzania have no electricity apart from a few, then you take all the power to the SGR???

Really? I think, you are wrong, it is Tanzania that doesn't know how to plan at all!!

 

[Geza Ulole]

But, look, with all lack of planning, we have developed more than Tanzania and Uganda combined, so it seems our lack of planning is better than your planning!

All the same, SGR Kenya has electricity poles and lines running all the way from Nairobi to Mombasa! It will not be difficult to erect the suspended wires for trains. And the diesel engines can still be used as new electric ones are bought. Something i Know, before Tanzania trains see the light, Kenya will be there too.

Secondly, it is our good planning that informed us of diesel engines. Kenya has no enough power for electric trains. It will invest in power and when we have enough power we will go electric.

All of Our people must get electricity before taking it to the SGR. There are two programs in Kenya, Rural Electrification and Last Mile connectivity. Making sure every Kenyan is connected to electricity.

With enough power from Coal and Nuclear by 2020, we will have bullet trains if we wish.

That is where the difference with Tanzania is, Uganda knew it and they are finishing with power issues, what about Tanzania? I hear you want to import power from Ethiopia, Power Blackouts in Tanzania are the worst in Africa, how will electric trains service? People in Tanzania have no electricity apart from a few, then you take all the power to the SGR???

Really? I think, you are wrong, it is Tanzania that doesn't know how to plan at all!!

With that GDP of $63 bln after cosmetics rebasing n having no man's land on the Northern Frontier u can't be developed more than Uganda+Tanzania! Fight hunger first my friend...

Which powerblackouts r u talking about while several coal n gas to electrical power projects r undertaken at the moment? Aside power importation from Ethiopia! So u believe Kenya will go nukes 2020? Do u even have a well established atomic institutes compared to Tanzania?

 

[Edward Wanjala]

With that GDP of $63 bln after cosmetics rebasing n having no man's land on the Northern Frontier u can't be developed more than Uganda+Tanzania! Fight hunger first my friend...

It is you to argue as expected, but those who know more than you can understand!

 

[Geza Ulole]

Portuguese and Chinese team signs deal to build $1.4bn Mozambique railway

15 June 2017 | By GCR Staff0 Commentsfacebooktwittergpluslinkedin

A consortium made up of Mota-Engil of Portugal and the China National Complete Engineering Corporation (CNCEC) has signed a contract to build a 500km railway in Mozambique. The $1.4bn scheme will connect the Moatize coal mining area near the Malawi border with the port of Macuse, reportsMacauhub.

The consortium, which is equally divided between the two companies, was picked by the client for the project, Thai Moçambique Logística (TML) out of a shortlist of seven. The other contractors included ones from Brazil, South Korea and another Chinese company.

The railway will replace the 660km Sena railway which runs to the port of Beira. Neither the railway nor the port is expected to be able to deal with the increase in coal and minerals that will be created by an expansion of mining activity in the Moatize area. Production of open cast coal in the area, one of the richest on Earth, has increased from 3.7 million tonnes in 2012, the first year of operation, to 5.5 million in 2016.

The signing had been expected since March, when José Pires da Fonseca, the chief executive of TML, announced that the project had been awarded to the consortium. The news of the finalisation of the deal came in a filing on Tuesday, 13 June, by Mota Engil with the Portuguese Securities Market Commission.

The statement said that given the high level of goods and services coming from China, it is very likely that Chinese export credit could provide the necessary financial backing. This is an important detail, as a recent debt scandal has reduced the credit worthiness of the Mozambique government in the eyes of international lenders.

The project is expected to begin in 2018 and take 44 months to complete, however, that schedule may be longer if it is decided to extend the railway a further 120km in order to connect to more coal deposits.

This deal follows another big win for Mota-Engil in east African rail earlier in the year; this came in April, when it was picked to build a $1.2bn rail line in Tanzania, alongside Yapi Merkezi of Turkey.

It also completed another railway from the Moatize coal mining area last year. The $700m Nacala Corridor project passed through Malawi to the northern port of Nacala.

China National Complete Engineering Corporation is a subsidiary of the China Machinery Engineering Corporation, and listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

The client, TML, is a joint venture between Bangkok-based private contractor Italian-Thai Development and Mozambique government agencies. It was chosen to oversee the work at the end of 2013.

Image: A railway in Moatize built by South African engineer Aurecon (Aurecon)

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A consortium made up of Mota-Engil of Portugal and the China National Complete Engineering Corporation (CNCEC) has signed a contract to build a 500km railway in Mozambique. The $1.4bn scheme will connect the Moatize coal mining area near the Malawi border with the port of Macuse, reports Macauhub.

The consortium, which is equally divided between the two companies, was picked by the client for the project, Thai Moçambique Logística (TML) out of a shortlist of seven. The other contractors included ones from Brazil, South Korea and another Chinese company.

The railway will replace the 660km Sena railway which runs to the port of Beira. Neither the railway nor the port is expected to be able to deal with the increase in coal and minerals that will be created by an expansion of mining activity in the Moatize area. Production of open cast coal in the area, one of the richest on Earth, has increased from 3.7 million tonnes in 2012, the first year of operation, to 5.5 million in 2016.

The signing had been expected since March, when José Pires da Fonseca, the chief executive of TML, announced that the project had been awarded to the consortium. The news of the finalisation of the deal came in a filing on Tuesday, 13 June, by Mota Engil with the Portuguese Securities Market Commission.

The statement said that given the high level of goods and services coming from China, it is very likely that Chinese export credit could provide the necessary financial backing. This is an important detail, as a recent debt scandal has reduced the credit worthiness of the Mozambique government in the eyes of international lenders.

The project is expected to begin in 2018 and take 44 months to complete, however, that schedule may be longer if it is decided to extend the railway a further 120km in order to connect to more coal deposits.

This deal follows another big win for Mota-Engil in east African rail earlier in the year; this came in April, when it was picked to build a $1.2bn rail line in Tanzania, alongside Yapi Merkezi of Turkey.

It also completed another railway from the Moatize coal mining area last year. The $700m Nacala Corridor project passed through Malawi to the northern port of Nacala.

China National Complete Engineering Corporation is a subsidiary of the China Machinery Engineering Corporation, and listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

The client, TML, is a joint venture between Bangkok-based private contractor Italian-Thai Development and Mozambique government agencies. It was chosen to oversee the work at the end of 2013.

Image: A railway in Moatize built by South African engineer Aurecon (Aurecon

 

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U have mind problems ..since completion of Kinyerezi 1 150MW ..haijawai kutokea power blackouts (mgao. Wa umeme) ...na Tz ryt now electricity produced is above electricity consumed..we are in rural electrification project ..phase 2 ..

FYI .. kinyerezi 2 240MW is U/c now and alrdy plants 6/12 plants ..have been received from abroad..

Extension Of Kinyerezi 1 is to begin soon ..contractor yuko site ..extension of Kinyerezi 1 to 335MW ..nikukumbushe kuwa bado Kinyerezi 3 and 4 ..the whole Kinyerezi plants ..ita produce about 1800 MW

Coal at Mchuchuma 600MW ..contractor ..has already signed..na itaenda sambamba na mining iron at Liganga

If you want to know about other power projects ..i l tell them to you..