Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

[Kafrican]

 

[Kafrican]

Naivasha ICD

 

[NairobiWalker]

elekriki esijiiara haijakamilika?

 

[Geza Ulole]

Its already a pain trying everyday to educate you about Kenya's SGR project, and now I am forced to also educate you about your own Tz rail, Jeez!


Your rail will use a dedicated 220 kv single-circuit transmission line that will run from Dar to Kingolwira village in Morogoro , so that story you have put here about construction of a 132kv line from Tabora to Mpanda is not for the SGR, If you cared to read your TZ SGR report you would know that your main power source will come from Kinyerezi


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And BTW, the cost of the TZ SGR project does not include the cost of the locomotive,coaches, wagons, it also does not include the cost of this transmission line as per the report....TANESCO will foot the bill for the dedicated transmission line and substations..... If you were to include all those expenses to the $1.7B already used.. well, let me not speculate, we shall be able to know the total expense once the rail is done.

Stop being stupid get to know the electricity power transmission grid around Tanzania first! To know what it means to have a connection from Katavi to Kigoma! The power line u talk in here is already there! What remains is an overhead transmission line while poles n ATS stations r already U/C!

 

[Ngokongosha]

Its already a pain trying everyday to educate you about Kenya's SGR project, and now I am forced to also educate you about your own Tz rail, Jeez!


Your rail will use a dedicated 220 kv single-circuit transmission line that will run from Dar to Kingolwira village in Morogoro , so that story you have put here about construction of a 132kv line from Tabora to Mpanda is not for the SGR, If you cared to read your TZ SGR report you would know that your main power source will come from Kinyerezi


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And BTW, the cost of the TZ SGR project does not include the cost of the locomotive,coaches, wagons, it also does not include the cost of this transmission line as per the report....TANESCO will foot the bill for the dedicated transmission line and substations..... If you were to include all those expenses to the $1.7B already used.. well, let me not speculate, we shall be able to know the total expense once the rail is done.

I have questions about Kenyan sgr. You said our sgr (tz) cost does not include wagons, coaches etc, yours does

1. For every phase of Kenyan sgr do you buy new wagons and coaches etc because the price is still higher for each phase.
2. Our sgr(tz) price includes electrification yours does not, which means more cost if you electrify it.
2. Our sgr(tz) price includes welding the rails yours does not which again means more cost to upgrade
3. Kenyan sgr finance is a loan from China which again you pay back with interest
4. Buying fuel everyday for your trains is expensive than using electricity, this will add more cost

 

[thisdayes]

I have questions about Kenyan sgr. You said our sgr (tz) cost does not include wagons, coaches etc, yours does

1. For every phase of Kenyan sgr do you buy new wagons and coaches etc because the price is still higher for each phase.
2. Our sgr(tz) price includes electrification yours does not, which means more cost if you electrify it.
2. Our sgr(tz) price includes welding the rails yours does not which again means more cost to upgrade
3. Kenyan sgr finance is a loan from China which again you pay back with interest
4. Buying fuel everyday for your trains is expensive than using electricity, this will add more cost

Umesahau kuwauliza cost ya hizo train zao. Hili swalia ata Uhuru hana jibu lake!

 

[Kafrican]

I have questions about Kenyan sgr. You said our sgr (tz) cost does not include wagons, coaches etc, yours does

1. For every phase of Kenyan sgr do you buy new wagons and coaches etc because the price is still higher for each phase.
2. Our sgr(tz) price includes electrification yours does not, which means more cost if you electrify it.
2. Our sgr(tz) price includes welding the rails yours does not which again means more cost to upgrade
3. Kenyan sgr finance is a loan from China which again you pay back with interest
4. Buying fuel everyday for your trains is expensive than using electricity, this will add more cost

Your SGR includes what electrification exactly??? It includes only the overhead lines...... But without the transmission line there will be no electrified train. So to get the total cost of your electric SGR you will have to include the cost of that transmission line that will be funded by TANESCO.
Remember Its not a regular transmission line, its a dedicated tranmision line to be used only for the SGR and nothing else.

And Wielding of rail doesnot have any significant cost diference so thats a non issue. Things like Bridges and earth works are much more expensive.

And Yes, Diesel train is more expensive than Electric. But its only expensive if the conditions are right... Remember diesel fuel is used on a "demand basis", i.e if you want to drive from point A to Point B, you need to buy xyz liters of fuel, therefore, you use the fuel only when you need it, when the train is not running, no fuel is being used..... Electricity for train operation on the other hand, is more like on a "subscription basis", i.e TANESCO will dedicate , lets say 150MW of electricity to the SGR dedicated transmission line required for full 100% operation of the line... Whether TRC runs all the trains or not, TANESCO will still demand the bill for the supply of all the 150MW of electricity...
So the electric train will only be cheaper if you make more than 80% utilization of the track and use all the electricity provided, so you better pray that happens ASAP once you start operating cause TRC may end up paying for electricity they don't use. (Unless you are planning for JPM to use his dictatorial tendencies to order TRC not to pay for the power supplied by TANESCO)
This is the same thing that happens to factories that need uninterrupted dedicated electricity supply, power companies don't charge factories on a per use basis like how they charge residential homes. If the power company supplies 1MW to the factory ,then they just charge megawatt per hour for 12 hours a day, If the factories machines break down and don't operate at full capacity, the electric companies will still charge the same bill, so the company has to make sure they are always running at optimal capacity in order to make 99% utilization of the electricity or else they will be running at a loss.

 

[Kafrican]

Umesahau kuwauliza cost ya hizo train zao. Hili swalia ata Uhuru hana jibu lake!

Watu wa kutumia twitter accounts za watu kama chanzo cha habari huwa mnapatia watu shida sana, manake haimalizi hata siku kabla mtumie tweet ya mtu kama ushahidi... Jamaa akishasema hajui details za SGR ya Kenya kule twitter basss hiyo ndo imeshakua official statement kwamba wakenya wote hawajui details za SGR yao, kulingana na nini.......


Sisi tuliotulia tukachambua, tunajua kila detail , wewe kila siku unapiga porojo za vijiweni haujui hata ya kwenu ikoje mbali na yale yamesemwa na wanasiasa.



SGR Kenya, Nusu ya loan ilikua Consessional loan ambayo interest rate yake ni 2%, alafu nusu nyengine ndo ni commercial loan ambayo interest yake ni 7%, Wengi wenu hua mnapenda kusema yote ilikua ni commercial loan. Alafu serekali ya Kenya nayo ilikua inaongezea 15% juu yake.
Kuna hadi insurance cover fee amabyo hio kampuni ya Kichina ndo italipa deni kwa EXIM bank in the worse case scenario kwamba Kenya itashindwa kulipa hilo deni, alafu Kenya italazimika kulipa hio insurarence company hio pesa + interest, So China cannot take Mombasa port or whatever the media has been insinuating.

Cost ya Kujenga reli yenyewe phase 1 = $2.7B,
Cost ya Kujenga Vituo vyote 33(7 vyengine vitajengwa baadae), na kununua vichwa 56 vya treni, mabehewa 1,620 ya mizigo na 40 ya abiria.. Hapo ndani pia ina jumuisha ICD ya Nairobi etc = $1.1B

Ndani ya hio pesa kuna $120m ambayo ndo inatumka kujenga/kupanua shule ya Railway Training Institute ambapo sasa iko na hadi simulators za kupeleka reli mbali na wachina kutoa mafunzo mbali mbali kwa walimu wa Kenya na pia wahandisi wa SGR.




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Kwa upande mwengine wa TZ SGR, vichwa 20 vya treni ya umeme gharama yake iko kando, dedicated transmission line inagaramiwa kando, hata sijasikia kama huko moro kutajengwa ICD na gharama yake itakua ndani ya ile $1.7B au itakua iko kando. mabehewa 1,400 ya mizigo na abiria nayo iko kando... pesa za kutoa mafunzo kwa ma engeneer na ma dereva wa kitanzania kule Korea na kwengineko nayo ni gharama ya kivyake..... Sijui kama mnajenga/kupanua chuo chenu cha reli hapo TZ, lakini kama mnafanya hivyo, gharama ya miundomsingi itakua tena ni kando kivyake....

Mwisho wa siku ukijumlisha hizo gharama zote juu ya ile $1.7B ya kujenga reli na stesheni zake, utakuta gharama itakua zaidi ya vile huwa mnatuambia hapa.


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Kama wewe ni muungwana kweli ukijaribu kujitetea au kupinga lolote, utaleta na ushahidi kama vile nimejaribu kufanya. lakini navyo wajua nyinyi watz wanaJF, utaanza kupiga story za vijiweni na kuniekea tweets zinazosema SGR yenu iko sawa haina shida. ama hata ikizidi uanze matusi ya sijui sisiwakenya ni wajinga na nyinyi watz ndo watu wa busara wenye hekima na JPM ndo mungu mdogo blah blah blah.

 

[Bantugbro]

Kuna vitu vingi huvijui kuhusu mazingira ya SGR ya Bongo. Hakuna dedicated transmission line itakayojengwa kwa sababu existing national grid ipo pembeni ya SGR katika maeneo mengi. Na design ime-leverage hilo, ATS nyingi ziko karibu na national grid inapokutana na SGR.

Kwa mfano ATS iliyopo 43 km from Dar iko karibu na grid at 45 km. Ukienda mbele kidogo maeneo ya stesheni ya Soga unakutana tena na national grid. Hali iko hivyo maeneo mengi, ukifika 173 km toka Dar SGR inakutana tena na grid.

Kinachosubiriwa ni ABB wakamilishe installation ya vifaa, utashangaa jinsi TANESCO watakavyounga umeme toka kwenye grid ..

Your SGR includes what electrification exactly??? It includes only the overhead lines...... But without the transmission line there will be no electrified train. So to get the total cost of your electric SGR you will have to include the cost of that transmission line that will be funded by TANESCO.
Remember Its not a regular transmission line, its a dedicated tranmision line to be used only for the SGR and nothing else.

And Wielding of rail doesnot have any significant cost diference so thats a non issue. Things like Bridges and earth works are much more expensive.

And Yes, Diesel train is more expensive than Electric. But its only expensive if the conditions are right... Remember diesel fuel is used on a "demand basis", i.e if you want to drive from point A to Point B, you need to buy xyz liters of fuel, therefore, you use the fuel only when you need it, when the train is not running, no fuel is being used..... Electricity for train operation on the other hand, is more like on a "subscription basis", i.e TANESCO will dedicate , lets say 150MW of electricity to the SGR dedicated transmission line required for full 100% operation of the line... Whether TRC runs all the trains or not, TANESCO will still demand the bill for the supply of all the 150MW of electricity...
So the electric train will only be cheaper if you make more than 80% utilization of the track and use all the electricity provided, so you better pray that happens ASAP once you start operating cause TRC may end up paying for electricity they don't use. (Unless you are planning for JPM to use his dictatorial tendencies to order TRC not to pay for the power supplied by TANESCO)
This is the same thing that happens to factories that need uninterrupted dedicated electricity supply, power companies don't charge factories on a per use basis like how they charge residential homes. If the power company supplies 1MW to the factory ,then they just charge megawatt per hour for 12 hours a day, If the factories machines break down and don't operate at full capacity, the electric companies will still charge the same bill, so the company has to make sure they are always running at optimal capacity in order to make 99% utilization of the electricity or else they will be running at a loss.

K

 

[komora096]

Kabisa mkuu...ile hela waliosema ni ya kutandika reli pekeake

I foresee very funny memes on twitter that will becoming from this pic below

 

[YoungD]

Kuna vitu vingi huvijui kuhusu mazingira ya SGR ya Bongo. Hakuna dedicated transmission line itakayojengwa kwa sababu existing national grid ipo pembeni ya SGR katika maeneo mengi. Na design ime-leverage hilo, ATS nyingi ziko karibu na national grid inapokutana na SGR.

Kwa mfano ATS iliyopo 43 km from Dar iko karibu na grid at 45 km. Ukienda mbele kidogo maeneo ya stesheni ya Soga unakutana tena na national grid. Hali iko hivyo maeneo mengi, ukifika 173 km toka Dar SGR inakutana tena na grid.

Kinachosubiriwa ni ABB wakamilishe installation ya vifaa, utashangaa jinsi TANESCO watakavyounga umeme toka kwenye grid .. K

mbona usichangie hoja kwa kuweka design specification kama alivyo fanya Kafrican ?

 

[Bantugbro]

Anajichanganya tu, hajui mazingira ya SGR yetu vizuri, design tulishsajadili hapa jamvini huko nyuma.

Kama anaelewa asingesahau Kuwa ABB ndio wanaofunga mfumo wa umeme na TANESCO wao ni kuunganisha tu toka ktk national grid na ni distance fupi fupi in most cases ni lines za chini ya 5 km.

mbona usichangie hoja kwa kuweka design specification kama alivyo fanya Kafrican ?

 

[thisdayes]

Watu wa kutumia twitter accounts za watu kama chanzo cha habari huwa mnapatia watu shida sana, manake haimalizi hata siku kabla mtumie tweet ya mtu kama ushahidi... Jamaa akishasema hajui details za SGR ya Kenya kule twitter basss hiyo ndo imeshakua official statement kwamba wakenya wote hawajui details za SGR yao, kulingana na nini.......


Sisi tuliotulia tukachambua, tunajua kila detail , wewe kila siku unapiga porojo za vijiweni haujui hata ya kwenu ikoje mbali na yale yamesemwa na wanasiasa.



SGR Kenya, Nusu ya loan ilikua Consessional loan ambayo interest rate yake ni 2%, alafu nusu nyengine ndo ni commercial loan ambayo interest yake ni 7%, Wengi wenu hua mnapenda kusema yote ilikua ni commercial loan. Alafu serekali ya Kenya nayo ilikua inaongezea 15% juu yake.
Kuna hadi insurance cover fee amabyo hio kampuni ya Kichina ndo italipa deni kwa EXIM bank in the worse case scenario kwamba Kenya itashindwa kulipa hilo deni, alafu Kenya italazimika kulipa hio insurarence company hio pesa + interest, So China cannot take Mombasa port or whatever the media has been insinuating.



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Cost ya Kujenga reli yenyewe phase 1 = $2.7B,
Cost ya Kujenga Vituo vyote 33(7 vyengine vitajengwa baadae), na kununua vichwa 56 vya treni, mabehewa 1,620 ya mizigo na 40 ya abiria.. Hapo ndani pia ina jumuisha ICD ya Nairobi etc = $1.1B

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Ndani ya hio pesa kuna $120m ambayo ndo inatumka kujenga/kupanua shule ya Railway Training Institute ambapo sasa iko na hadi simulators za kupeleka reli mbali na wachina kutoa mafunzo mbali mbali kwa walimu wa Kenya na pia wahandisi wa SGR.




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Kwa upande mwengine wa TZ SGR, vichwa 20 vya treni ya umeme gharama yake iko kando, dedicated transmission line inagaramiwa kando, hata sijasikia kama huko moro kutajengwa ICD na gharama yake itakua ndani ya ile $1.7B au itakua iko kando. mabehewa 1,400 ya mizigo na abiria nayo iko kando... pesa za kutoa mafunzo kwa ma engeneer na ma dereva wa kitanzania kule Korea na kwengineko nayo ni gharama ya kivyake..... Sijui kama mnajenga/kupanua chuo chenu cha reli hapo TZ, lakini kama mnafanya hivyo, gharama ya miundomsingi itakua tena ni kando kivyake....

Mwisho wa siku ukijumlisha hizo gharama zote juu ya ile $1.7B ya kujenga reli na stesheni zake, utakuta gharama itakua zaidi ya vile huwa mnatuambia hapa.


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Kama wewe ni muungwana kweli ukijaribu kujitetea au kupinga lolote, utaleta na ushahidi kama vile nimejaribu kufanya. lakini navyo wajua nyinyi watz wanaJF, utaanza kupiga story za vijiweni na kuniekea tweets zinazosema SGR yenu iko sawa haina shida. ama hata ikizidi uanze matusi ya sijui sisiwakenya ni wajinga na nyinyi watz ndo watu wa busara wenye hekima na JPM ndo mungu mdogo blah blah blah.

Maneno mengi! Ila bado huja jibu swali, nikitaka gari moshi kama mchina aliyowaletea niandae kiasi gani? Au ni fungu la nyongeza.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Your SGR includes what electrification exactly??? It includes only the overhead lines...... But without the transmission line there will be no electrified train. So to get the total cost of your electric SGR you will have to include the cost of that transmission line that will be funded by TANESCO.
Remember Its not a regular transmission line, its a dedicated tranmision line to be used only for the SGR and nothing else.

And Wielding of rail doesnot have any significant cost diference so thats a non issue. Things like Bridges and earth works are much more expensive.

And Yes, Diesel train is more expensive than Electric. But its only expensive if the conditions are right... Remember diesel fuel is used on a "demand basis", i.e if you want to drive from point A to Point B, you need to buy xyz liters of fuel, therefore, you use the fuel only when you need it, when the train is not running, no fuel is being used..... Electricity for train operation on the other hand, is more like on a "subscription basis", i.e TANESCO will dedicate , lets say 150MW of electricity to the SGR dedicated transmission line required for full 100% operation of the line... Whether TRC runs all the trains or not, TANESCO will still demand the bill for the supply of all the 150MW of electricity...
So the electric train will only be cheaper if you make more than 80% utilization of the track and use all the electricity provided, so you better pray that happens ASAP once you start operating cause TRC may end up paying for electricity they don't use. (Unless you are planning for JPM to use his dictatorial tendencies to order TRC not to pay for the power supplied by TANESCO)
This is the same thing that happens to factories that need uninterrupted dedicated electricity supply, power companies don't charge factories on a per use basis like how they charge residential homes. If the power company supplies 1MW to the factory ,then they just charge megawatt per hour for 12 hours a day, If the factories machines break down and don't operate at full capacity, the electric companies will still charge the same bill, so the company has to make sure they are always running at optimal capacity in order to make 99% utilization of the electricity or else they will be running at a loss.

That overhead connection needs several Automatic Train Supervision (ATS) substations at every 50 km! Aside the fact thousands of poles to carry the overhead power! what is more important for that 205km there is around 95km of a parallel line to allow a smooth bypass of incoming trains!

 

[Kafrican]

Kuna vitu vingi huvijui kuhusu mazingira ya SGR ya Bongo. Hakuna dedicated transmission line itakayojengwa kwa sababu existing national grid ipo pembeni ya SGR katika maeneo mengi. Na design ime-leverage hilo, ATS nyingi ziko karibu na national grid inapokutana na SGR.

Kwa mfano ATS iliyopo 43 km from Dar iko karibu na grid at 45 km. Ukienda mbele kidogo maeneo ya stesheni ya Soga unakutana tena na national grid. Hali iko hivyo maeneo mengi, ukifika 173 km toka Dar SGR inakutana tena na grid.

Kinachosubiriwa ni ABB wakamilishe installation ya vifaa, utashangaa jinsi TANESCO watakavyounga umeme toka kwenye grid .. K

Hivi ndo ripoti yenu inasema, nakumbuka kuna mahali ndani ya hio ripoti walikua wameelezea sababu kwanini hawatafanya hivyo unavyosema na kwanini dedicated transmission line ndo ilichaguliwa , nikipata mda (Wednesday this week) nakuletea hio sehemu

 

[Geza Ulole]

Hivi ndo ripoti yenu inasema, nakumbuka kuna mahali ndani ya hio ripoti walikua wameelezea sababu kwanini hawatafanya hivyo unavyosema na kwanini dedicated transmission line ndo ilichaguliwa , nikipata mda (Wednesday this week) nakuletea hio sehemu



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The transmission line is already there!

Now this is currently U/C!

ABB to enable first electric rail link in Tanzania
Press release | Zurich, Switzerland |2018-09-20
Pioneering rail project will connect Dar es Salaam to neighboring areas and spur economic and social growth
ABB has been selected to supply substation equipment and engineering solutions for a 530-km long high-speed electric line between Dar es Salaam and Makutupora. The project is part of a larger plan to link Tanzania’s port cities with interior areas and neighboring countries to stimulate regional trade and passenger travel in the region and help strengthen the economy.

The equipment will help power two separate but adjoining east-west rail lines – the Dar es Salaam – Morogoro railway line (DSM), and the Morogoro – Makutupora railway line (MDM). The new high-speed electric rail line will replace a slow, narrow-gauge line built more than 100 years ago, which is not suitable for high-speed transport of cargo and passengers.

The project will provide a crucial link between the country’s most important port of Dar es Salaam and the country’s interior hub, which also serves as a vital crossroads for north-south railway linkages. Tanzania, home to well-known game parks and destinations like Mount Kilimanjaro remains largely rural but aspires to become a regional transport hub between its port cities and hinterland areas and neighboring land-locked countries. When complete, the rail system will provide a vital link from the neighboring countries to the global market via Dar es Salaam and will create a development corridor to sustain future growth.

ABB will deliver a complete engineering solution and most of the key products, such as the substation automation control and protection system and ABB AbilityTM OCC (Operational Control Centre). The substation equipment and engineering solution will be delivered to Turkish EPC Yapi Merkezi İnşaat ve Sanayi, and the railway will be operated by the Tanzania Railway Corporation (TRC).

“ABB is pleased to be part of Tanzania’s pioneering effort to build the first modern electric rail infrastructure in East Africa and encourage sustainable mobility in Africa,” said Patrick Fragman, head of the Grid Integration business unit, a part of ABB’s Power Grids division. “ABB provides a wide range of innovative solutions for the rail sector and remains the partner of choice for enabling a stronger, smarter and greener grid.”

In addition to traction power solutions, ABB provides a diverse power portfolio for rail and urban transport solutions including static frequency converter stations, power quality systems, ABB AbilityTM network management systems, energy recuperation and energy storage systems, system studies and dynamic traction power supply simulations based on powerful software tools.

ABB (ABBN: SIX Swiss Ex) is a pioneering technology leader in power grids, electrification products, industrial automation and robotics and motion, serving customers in utilities, industry and transport & infrastructure globally.

Continuing a history of innovation spanning more than 130 years, ABB today is writing the future of industrial digitalization with two clear value propositions: bringing electricity from any power plant to any plug and automating industries from natural resources to finished products. As title partner in ABB Formula E, the fully electric international FIA motorsport class, ABB is pushing the boundaries of e-mobility to contribute to a sustainable future. ABB operates in more than 100 countries with about 147,000 employees. www.abb.com

ABB to enable first electric rail link in Tanzania

new.abb.com

 

[Geza Ulole]

 

[Kafrican]

The transmission line is already there!

Now this is currently U/C!

ABB to enable first electric rail link in Tanzania
Press release | Zurich, Switzerland |2018-09-20
Pioneering rail project will connect Dar es Salaam to neighboring areas and spur economic and social growth
ABB has been selected to supply substation equipment and engineering solutions for a 530-km long high-speed electric line between Dar es Salaam and Makutupora. The project is part of a larger plan to link Tanzania’s port cities with interior areas and neighboring countries to stimulate regional trade and passenger travel in the region and help strengthen the economy.

The equipment will help power two separate but adjoining east-west rail lines – the Dar es Salaam – Morogoro railway line (DSM), and the Morogoro – Makutupora railway line (MDM). The new high-speed electric rail line will replace a slow, narrow-gauge line built more than 100 years ago, which is not suitable for high-speed transport of cargo and passengers.

The project will provide a crucial link between the country’s most important port of Dar es Salaam and the country’s interior hub, which also serves as a vital crossroads for north-south railway linkages. Tanzania, home to well-known game parks and destinations like Mount Kilimanjaro remains largely rural but aspires to become a regional transport hub between its port cities and hinterland areas and neighboring land-locked countries. When complete, the rail system will provide a vital link from the neighboring countries to the global market via Dar es Salaam and will create a development corridor to sustain future growth.

ABB will deliver a complete engineering solution and most of the key products, such as the substation automation control and protection system and ABB AbilityTM OCC (Operational Control Centre). The substation equipment and engineering solution will be delivered to Turkish EPC Yapi Merkezi İnşaat ve Sanayi, and the railway will be operated by the Tanzania Railway Corporation (TRC).

“ABB is pleased to be part of Tanzania’s pioneering effort to build the first modern electric rail infrastructure in East Africa and encourage sustainable mobility in Africa,” said Patrick Fragman, head of the Grid Integration business unit, a part of ABB’s Power Grids division. “ABB provides a wide range of innovative solutions for the rail sector and remains the partner of choice for enabling a stronger, smarter and greener grid.”

In addition to traction power solutions, ABB provides a diverse power portfolio for rail and urban transport solutions including static frequency converter stations, power quality systems, ABB AbilityTM network management systems, energy recuperation and energy storage systems, system studies and dynamic traction power supply simulations based on powerful software tools.

ABB (ABBN: SIX Swiss Ex) is a pioneering technology leader in power grids, electrification products, industrial automation and robotics and motion, serving customers in utilities, industry and transport & infrastructure globally.

Continuing a history of innovation spanning more than 130 years, ABB today is writing the future of industrial digitalization with two clear value propositions: bringing electricity from any power plant to any plug and automating industries from natural resources to finished products. As title partner in ABB Formula E, the fully electric international FIA motorsport class, ABB is pushing the boundaries of e-mobility to contribute to a sustainable future. ABB operates in more than 100 countries with about 147,000 employees. www.abb.com

ABB to enable first electric rail link in Tanzania

new.abb.com

Why argue when I can just save your comment and get back to you once Tanesco announce the construction of a new transmission line specifically for the SGR, just as it's written on your report. Not unless you want to tell me your ESIA report done by Yepi was more of a suggestion than an actual plan that they were going to implement.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Why argue when I can just save your comment and get back to you once Tanesco announce the construction of a new transmission line specifically for the SGR, just as it's written on your report. Not unless you want to tell me your ESIA report done by Yepi was more of a suggestion than an actual plan that they were going to implement.

So kwa akili yako TRC inaweza kuajiri ABB kujenga ATS substations na ku-order electrical locomotives yet isiwe na transmission line! Wacha ujinga aisee! Try to think logical!

 

[Kafrican]

So kwa akili yako TRC inaweza kuajiri ABB kujenga ATS substations na ku-order electrical locomotives yet isiwe na transmission line! Wacha ujinga aisee! Try to think logical!

Did you read the screenshots I posted from your report, ama niuwezo wa kuelewa ndo ni mdogo? Did you read the part where they say TRC has an agreement with Tanesco on how the transmission line will be done to the specification and needs?
The ATS substations and overhead lines are on a completely different network/circuits .. The transmission line by Tanesco would be going along the SGR and feeding power into each of these ATS substations which will in turn convert the Tanesco power to a different frequency that is specific to the AC/DC frequency that your train morters will need to draw power from the overhead lines...

So ABB doesn't need the transmission lines to already be there for them to start setting up sub-stations and overhead lines, they just need to know where/how the substations will be connected to the transmission line at every station.