Bosi wa Rwandair apigwa chini

[dolevaby]

Hii biashara ni ngumu sana
Sijui kama tuta tusua kiukweli

mtakatifu anayo majibu kuhusu swali hili

 

[mitale na midimu]

Mkuu hata sisi tunachangia kwa misingi ya kitaalamu.

Kama hauna majibu toa maoni yako tutayaheshimu ila usitumie majibu mepesi kudai hoja ya mtu ni pointless.

Post number 20 ndio my final draft ya maoni yangu juu yake. Network ilisumbua nikajikuta na post kabla ya kufanya uhariri wa mwisho. Nadhani nguvu kubwa ungezielekeza kwa mdau Bak maana anaamini yeye yuko sahihi siku zote na chochote nje ya anachokiamini na kuelewa ni upumbavu na uozo. Inability to debate opposite opinions. Mtazamo....
Naomba samahani kwa usumbufu wa neno kama linaukakasi maana editing ilikuwa inaendelea

 

[Dan Zwangendaba]

Hii biashara ni ngumu sana
Sijui kama tuta tusua kiukweli

Dadeki, leo umeongea MOTOCHINI . Kumbe ukweli huwa mnaujua. Hizi pesa tulizonunulia ndege, tungeziingiza kwenye irrigation schemes za horticulture and paddy +clustered agro-processing industries baada ya mwaka mmoja tungefanya exports ya kufa mtu nje ya Afrika na ndani ya bara la Afrika. Ila ndio hivyo maamuzi bila mipango ni zigo la misumari tu.

 

[Sangarara]

Dadeki, leo umeongea MOTOCHINI . Kumbe ukweli huwa mnaujua. Hizi pesa tuluzonunulia ndege, tungeziingiza kwenye irritation schemes za horticulture and paddy +clustred agro-processing industries baada ya mwaka mmoja tungefanya exports ya kufa mtu nje ya Afrika na ndani ya bara la Afrika. Ila

Hivi ni sh ngapi?

 

[Waterloo]

Hizi panga boi zetu veeepe

 

[Konda wa bodaboda]

Waje wachukue uzoefu kwetu. Miezi 6 zaidi ya Billioni 9 kama faida.

Air Tanzania inafanya vizuri kwenye soko la ndani kwa sababu Tanzania ni kubwa sana, sasa Rwanda ni nchi ndogo sana, kwahiyo hawana route za ndani sababu ya udogo wa nchi yao hivyo wanategemea route za nje ambazo ni changamoto kwa mashirika mengi ya ndege.

Cc: jMali

 

[MTK]

Kwani wana cost burden ipi hata usitegemee handsome profit 1st quarter?

Kabla ya ile midege kuja kulifanyika layoff kubwa sana ya wafanyakazi.

Ile midege hawajakopa hata wawe na interest expense kwenye balance sheet yao.

wasitengeneze profit kwa gharama zipi walizonazo?

Je soko, huduma kwa wateja na maadili ya kitaaluma wanayo mpaka watengeneze faida katika robo ya kwanza?! Zingatia pia that was a dead airline, it was like starting from scratch!

 

[mitale na midimu]

Utawasikia wapi na wewe umetia pamba masikioni! hata kauli ya kwamba katika pesa za maendeleo 2016/2017 trilioni 11 na kutoa triliooni tatu pia hujasikia, hata Serikali kushindwa kuongeza mishahara zaidi ya mwaka sasa pia hujasikia, hata Serikali kushindwa kuajiri Watanzania maelfu wakiwemo walimu pia hujasikia lakini bado unakuja hapa kuandika pumba zako zisizikuwa na kichwa wala miguu. Ni hasara kubwa sana kwa nchi kuwa na mapunguani kama wewe. Nyie ndiyo mnawapa kibri hawa wahuni na mafisadi waendelee kuiangamiza nchi yetu.

Sijui wanawapa nini hasa hadi mkubali kuisaliti Tanzania na Watanzania kiasi hiki ili kutetea UOZO.

Kuna furushi la matatizo umelikusanya kila mada mkuu unalitua hata kama halina uhusiano na mada husika.
Hii inahusu aviation, Unapaswa ulete why sio list ya matatizo ambayo kwanza hayana uhusiano na kinachojadiliwa. Mimi niemkwambia msingi wa maelezo yangu ni Tanzania Economic Updates kutoka World bank may 2016 ikitoka nyingine tutasoma kuona kama Uchumi unakuwa vipi, na hali inayoonekana ni ya mpito au ya Kudumu.
Kuhusu ATCL the are Doing the best Work . Hongera sana ziende kwa CEO na naamini watafanya vizuri zaidi.

 

[Sangarara]

Je soko, huduma kwa wateja na maadili ya kitaaluma wanayo mpaka watengeneze faida katika robo ya kwanza?! Zingatia pia that was a dead airline, it was like starting from scratch!

Sikubaliani na hoja zako.

Soko ni lile lile,route pekee ambayo walikua nayo zamani ambayo sinahakika kama wameanza kwenda ni south africa.

Zingine zote tena plus comoro ni za humu humu,tena wamekuta na route ya mbeya

Huduma kwa wateja na maadili ya kitaaluma haviongezi wala kupunguza faida,vinasustain faida.

 

[MTK]

Sikubaliani na hoja zako.

Soko ni lile lile,route pekee ambayo walikua nayo zamani ambayo sinahakika kama wameanza kwenda ni south africa.

Zingine zote tena plus comoro ni za humu humu,tena wamekuta na route ya mbeya

Huduma kwa wateja na maadili ya kitaaluma haviongezi wala kupunguza faida,vinasustain faida.

Je wanavyo?! Do you have an ear to the ground au tunafanya empty academic banter hapa?!

 

[MOTOCHINI]

Dadeki, leo umeongea MOTOCHINI . Kumbe ukweli huwa mnaujua. Hizi pesa tulizonunulia ndege, tungeziingiza kwenye irrigation schemes za horticulture and paddy +clustered agro-processing industries baada ya mwaka mmoja tungefanya exports ya kufa mtu nje ya Afrika na ndani ya bara la Afrika. Ila ndio hivyo maamuzi bila mipango ni zigo la misumari tu.

Nyie watu nyie hamuishiwi maneno
kila sekta inamtegemea mwenzie hilo kwanza ulifahamu.
Jikumbushe kwanza makelele yaliyo pigwa hapo nyuma kuhusu suala hili la AirTanzania!!

Watanzania tumekuwa Wanafiki sana
hakuna jema leo kesho likafanywa na kuendelea kuwa jema!!

Sasa hivi kuna Nguvu kubwa inafanyika kuibadili Dar es salaam
lakini wapo watanzania wana kejeli juhudi hizo,
Kutwa kusifia miji ya nje
yaani ni tatizo

 

[kirikou1]

Utawasikia wapi na wewe umetia pamba masikioni! hata kauli ya kwamba katika pesa za maendeleo 2016/2017 trilioni 11 na kutoa triliooni tatu pia hujasikia, hata Serikali kushindwa kuongeza mishahara zaidi ya mwaka sasa pia hujasikia, hata Serikali kushindwa kuajiri Watanzania maelfu wakiwemo walimu pia hujasikia lakini bado unakuja hapa kuandika pumba zako zisizikuwa na kichwa wala miguu. Ni hasara kubwa sana kwa nchi kuwa na mapunguani kama wewe. Nyie ndiyo mnawapa kibri hawa wahuni na mafisadi waendelee kuiangamiza nchi yetu.

Sijui wanawapa nini hasa hadi mkubali kuisaliti Tanzania na Watanzania kiasi hiki ili kutetea UOZO.

Vyeti vyenyewe feki tutegemee nn zaidi ya ubashite bashite tu

 

[Nyenyere]

Wewe unaonekana hujui lolote juu ya biashara. Hawa watu wamepewa ndege zisizo na terms za madeni.

Gharama za kukodisha ndege huchukua karibia asilimia hamsini ya gharama za uendeshaji.

Hawa hawana gharama hiyo, sanasana wanaingia gharama za mafuta,sababu hata maintenance cost haiwezi kuwa juu leo.

Sasa wanatengenezaje hasara,?

Ok mfanya biashara, WAMEPEWA!! Nimekuelewa

 

[Chief]

Kwani wana cost burden ipi hata usitegemee handsome profit 1st quarter?


Ile midege hawajakopa hata wawe na interest expense kwenye balance sheet yao.?

Ingawaje kwa kiasi fulani nakubaliana na reasoning yako, interest expense HAIINGI kwenye balance sheet.

 

[Chief]

Gharama za kukodisha ndege huchukua karibia asilimia hamsini ya gharama za uendeshaji.

Hawa hawana gharama hiyo, sanasana wanaingia gharama za mafuta,sababu hata maintenance cost haiwezi kuwa juu leo.

Sasa wanatengenezaje hasara,?

Hata kama maintenance cost haiwi leo, lazima uweke provision kwenye mahesabu yako ili siku maintenance cost zikiwa due, uwe na uwezo wa kulipa, especially kwa maintenance cost ambazo zinafanyika periodically kwa kipindi kinachozidi zaidi ya mwaka mmoja. Mfano engine zinatakiwa kufanyiwa complete overhaul kila baada ya miaka mitatu kwa $1.5m. So Kila mwaka lazima u charge $500,000 kwenye mahesabu yako.

Si kweli gharama za kukodisha Ndege ni karibu asilimia 50. Gharama za kuendesha airline ni kama ifuatavyo:

Airline Costs - Where the Money Goes

According to reports filed with the Department of Transportation in 1999, airline costs were as follows:

Flying Operations - essentially any cost associated with the operation of aircraft, such as fuel and pilot salaries - 27 percent;
Maintenance - both parts and labor - 13 percent;
Aircraft and Traffic Service - basically the cost of handling passengers, cargo and aircraft on the ground and including such things as the salaries of baggage handlers, dispatchers and airline gate agents - 16 percent;
Promotion/Sales - including advertising, reservations and travel agent commissions - 13 percent;
Passenger Service - mostly in-flight service and including such things as food and flight attendant salaries - 9 percent;
Transport Related - delivery trucks and in-flight sales - 10 percent;
Administrative - 6 percent;
Depreciation/Amortization - equipment and plants - 6 percent.
Labor costs are common to nearly all of those categories. When looked at as a whole, labor accounts for 35 percent of the airlines' operating expenses and 75 percent of controllable costs. Fuel is the airlines' second largest cost (about 10 to 12 percent of total expenses), and travel-agent commissions is third (about 6 percent). Commission costs, as a percent of total costs, have recently been declining, as more sales are now made directly to the customer through electronic commerce. Another rapidly rising cost has been airport landing fees and terminal rents
Reference:
Airline Economics

Hata hivyo, nakubaliana na mtazamo wako kwa ujumla.

 

[Sangarara]

Ingawaje kwa kiasi fulani nakubaliana na reasoning yako, interest expense HAIINGI kwenye balance sheet.

Hahaha asante kwa marekebisho mkuu,lengo langu lilikuwa kusema balance sheet yao haina interest rate sensitive items.

 

[Sangarara]

Hata kama maintenance cost haiwi leo, lazima uweke provision kwenye mahesabu yako ili siku maintenance cost zikiwa due, uwe na uwezo wa kulipa, especially kwa maintenance cost ambazo zinafanyika periodically kwa kipindi kinachozidi zaidi ya mwaka mmoja. Mfano engine zinatakiwa kufanyiwa complete overhaul kila baada ya miaka mitatu kwa $1.5m. So Kila mwaka lazima u charge $500,000 kwenye mahesabu yako.

Si kweli gharama za kukodisha Ndege ni karibu asilimia 50. Gharama za kuendesha airline ni kama ifuatavyo:

Airline Costs - Where the Money Goes

According to reports filed with the Department of Transportation in 1999, airline costs were as follows:

Flying Operations - essentially any cost associated with the operation of aircraft, such as fuel and pilot salaries - 27 percent;
Maintenance - both parts and labor - 13 percent;
Aircraft and Traffic Service - basically the cost of handling passengers, cargo and aircraft on the ground and including such things as the salaries of baggage handlers, dispatchers and airline gate agents - 16 percent;
Promotion/Sales - including advertising, reservations and travel agent commissions - 13 percent;
Passenger Service - mostly in-flight service and including such things as food and flight attendant salaries - 9 percent;
Transport Related - delivery trucks and in-flight sales - 10 percent;
Administrative - 6 percent;
Depreciation/Amortization - equipment and plants - 6 percent.
Labor costs are common to nearly all of those categories. When looked at as a whole, labor accounts for 35 percent of the airlines' operating expenses and 75 percent of controllable costs. Fuel is the airlines' second largest cost (about 10 to 12 percent of total expenses), and travel-agent commissions is third (about 6 percent). Commission costs, as a percent of total costs, have recently been declining, as more sales are now made directly to the customer through electronic commerce. Another rapidly rising cost has been airport landing fees and terminal rents
Reference:
Airline Economics

Hata hivyo, nakubaliana na mtazamo wako kwa ujumla.

Mkuu hata nikikubaliana na wewe kwa kila kitu,bado hakuna sababu ya atcl kutokutengeneza faida.

Hizo statistics sio za Tanzania,na hata sio za africa.Hivyo kuna cost items nyingi sana sio relevant kwa atcl.

Na hata zilizorelevant bado ziko chini sana,kwa mfano fee za ma agents, JPM Alipiga marufuku kutumia ma agent, hivyo hata kama ikitokea wakawatumia lazima fee yao iwe chini kuliko mashirika mengine.

Mishahara,kwa maelekezo aliyotoa JPM pia, nina uhakika ni midogo kulinganisha mashirika mengine,ukizingatia wakati atcl inarudi,achilia mbali yenyewe kupunguza wafanyakazi ni kuajiri wapya, entrant levels,mashirika mengine kama fast jet na precision air yalikua yanapunguza wafanyakazi. Mategemeo yangu ni kwamba payroll yao iko chini sana.

Kwa mfano wakati maceo wa washindani wanapata zaidi ya 25M Basic salary,kwa mujibu wa maelekezo ya JPM CEO wao mshahara wake hauvuki 15M.

Mimi nimalizie kwa kusema kwamba,kama ni kweli JPM amenunua ndege zile kwa cash na kuwapa jamaa kwa terms zozote zile,hawakupaswa kupata hasara Q1 ya operation.

 

[Chief]

Mkuu hata nikikubaliana na wewe kwa kila kitu,bado hakuna sababu ya atcl kutokutengeneza faida.

Mimi nimalizie kwa kusema kwamba,kama ni kweli JPM amenunua ndege zile kwa cash na kuwapa jamaa kwa terms zozote zile,hawakupaswa kupata hasara Q1 ya operation.

Ndio maana nimesema kuwa overall nakubaliana na wewe.