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Assault on Dr. Ulimboka: Who Did It?

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Mzee Mwanakijiji, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Five days later no one has been arrested for criminal assault and attempted murder of Dr. Ulimboka Stephen. That for five days the Tanzania security and intelligence services have failed to arrest anyone involved in the bloody attack on Ulimboka baffles my mind. At the same time however, it tells more and in fact it validates the suspicion that whoever was involved must have been a professional killer! But who really did it and why? Well.. let take some possible suspects and their motives and see if they could have done it.

    a. Families who lost beloved ones during the strike/s: They have the motive - revenge - but do they have the audacity to carry out such a bold and public kidnapping of a highly visible individual such as Dr. Ulimboka? Could they just show up at a prominent place (may be not as it was in years past) such as the Leaders' Club? Could these people without any backing walk straight and "take" someone in front of other people, without hiding their faces or anything? The answers to many of the questions are in the negative. WE CAN ELIMINATE GRIEVING FAMILIES:

    b. Hired Professional Assassins: Is it possible that a group of hired killers carried this attack against Ulimboka? There is a slim chance of that but any paid killer would have known that whether Dr. Ulimboka dies or live the police and other security agents would carry a massive manhunt against the perpetrators. Hired killers strike in darkness and they could have done that anywhere else but not as public as our "suspect" did.

    c. Personal Vendeta?: Well the same problems such as those in a and b. Anybody with an issue or problem with Ulimboka could have done the "deed" somewhere else and may be not in such a bold and public way. Not where other people could witness. I'm quite sure this is not a story of "he (Ulimboka) was suspected of taking somebody's wife"; you know the same story we heard during Kubenea incident, Arumeru East incident etc!

    d. Government agents? Well they would have the motive - silence the most prominent face of Doctor's strike and sending fear to everybody else. But another motive seems to be very clear now - especially with JK's speech last night. Doctor Ulimboka was not wanted by some people WITHIN the government during the negotiations. Kikwete told the nation that it was his decision to have Ulimboka continue to be a member of the panel negotiation with the governemnt. IF THIS IS TRUE then Kikwete POSSIBLY did not know who planned the assault but someone in the government did!

    Whoever in the government planned this incident knew a number of things pretty well:

    - Infiltrated doctors' group and brought himself closer to Ulimboka to the point that the doctors believed he was one of them? Probably they even knew the person was a security agent but he was "giving them inside information". A kind of "double agent".

    - Knew that once they take Ulimboka there would be no police or security agents following them. One can not just kidnap a prominent person in the middle of the City and disappear to the corner of the city without being stopped by police! Unless.... the police knew he was coming!!

    - Knew that there was no way the government could ever catch them. This was so true if ULIMBOKA HAD DIED. Unfortunately for them Ulimboka survived; this changes the narrative. Imagine if he was killed and his body found after some few days in Mabwepande forest. Well the narrative could have been easily managed. But, he survived and even worse (for the assailants) he TALKED. We now know what happened to him, the questioning, the torture and even the faces of these people. These were agents of our government - at least that was the impression that Ulimboka had.

    If we look carefully at all the possible actors we find a lot of obstacles for non-government agents to have carried out the assault. Here is the catch: If the assault was carried out by a non-government agent by now we would have some possible suspects at hand. Things of these things:

    a. Where is the car that the assailants used? - was it from the Police impound?
    b. Where is the car that came to the rescue? (in the middle of the night...)? was one of the agents had a changed heart and decided to spare Ulimboka's life (very probable); did he rush the others to give Ulimboka a chance to survive!..

    Now, as Sherlock Holmes would say..."once you eliminate the impossible (a through c); whatever remains (the government agents), however improbable must be the truth".

    What does this mean?

    a. The government must arrest this rogue government agents - from the police and those from TISS especially if they went beyond what they were directed to do.

    b. The heads of both the police and TISS (Mwema and Othman respectively) must resign immediately ass soon as agents get arrested. The two individuals must not be allowed to continue under their current positions. We have had enough torture and political killings within the past two years.

    c. The government should change its policies and tactics when it comes to political opposition and dissent in the country. We CAN NOT all of us conform to what the government want. There should be a safe room for dissent for that is the TRUE measure of a mature democracy.

    d. There is a need to reform TISS and the parliament should do its duty to do so. The overhaul of TISS is long overdue; now we have agents going rogue; we can not have and must not have an intelligence service that is politicized and without control of its agents.

    UNLESS of course the whole assault had had official blessings from the government in which case Kikwete's words to the contrary would be purposely deceptive and highly prejudicial.

    On the other hand, if its not "them" then who did it? It can't take a week for anybody to be arrested for the crime. It is shameful that it now entering almost a week for as it is well known the first 48 hours for any crimes are the most crucial moment to solve it. Now it is past 72 hours!!

  2. Edson

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    sasa hivi wanapanga uongo nani asakiziwe hii kesi na akamatwe
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    mob JF-Expert Member

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    Nakumbuka miaka ya nyuma kuna majambazi yaliua mbwa wa polisi hapa Dar haikuchukua siku tukasikia wamekamatwa.

    Juzi kati mtalii aliuawa kule Serengeti tukasika wamekamatwa, haya Arusha watu wameuliwa watu kimya, Mwanza wabunge wemekatwa mapanga watu kimya, Ulimboka amepigwa ametolewa meno na kucha inaundwa tume. Mbona hakukuwa na tume kuhusiana na mauaji ya mtalii na walioua mbwa enzi zile za nyuma?

    Mungu wabariki madaktari, Mungu wabariki wote wenye kutenda mema.
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    Gaijin JF-Expert Member

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    Mbona hujamaliza possibilities zote?

    1. Vyama vya upinzani
    Motive: Kuchonganisha serikali na raia. Ni dhahiri kuwa lawama zitavurumishwa kwa serikali

    *Vyama vya upinzania viliwahi kutangaza kuwa nusu ya watu wa usalama wa taifa wanaripoti kwao [That was in 2010, by now 60%?!].

    2. Kambi zenye mvutano ndani ya serikali [Mbio za kuwania uraisi?]
    Kambi inayojua kuwa Kikwete na watu wake "wanawabania" wanaamua "liwalo na liwe," ili na wakose wote.
    Motive: Kama ubaya, ubaya tu

    * Kama hutaki Unaacha alitueleza hapa kuwa TISS inaendeshwa na kambi mbili hivi sasa [Aliziita za Lowasa na 'nduguze' na ya Kikwete na watuwe]
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    kiraia JF Gold Member

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    Kikwete kasema kam ni Serikali inahusika yeye personaly hajamtuma mtu kufanya hivyo kwa hiyo inaonesha kuna mtu mwingine ndani ya serikali ila sio yeye Mwisho watataja majina kabisa
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    Mu-sir JF-Expert Member

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    I think you know more than this MM why not put it here so as we all can be illuminated?
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    Dhamira yake ilikuwa inamsuta akihutubia jana.
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    Hii ya Ulimboka ilitokea nikiwa ndani ya ban lasivyo ningepata ban ya mwaka mzima Ngoja sasa nisome hii ya Mzee Mwanakijiji kwanza nikiona ni hatarishi nikimbie
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    Pumba sana wewe
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    Maundumula, hiyo ya kula demu wa mtu sio you think so? Ili tuweze kuwa na mafanikio, pale tunaposhindwa tujifunze kukubali tumeshindwa. Mi naona kama hiyo ni story iliyopangwa itumike kama jamaa angelikuwa amekufa. Sasa yuko hai, kwanini unamsemea hivyo? Na huyo mwenye mke wake aliyefanya hivyo ameshakamatwa? This is a bitter pill to swallow...they have failed
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    Elizabeth Dominic Platinum Member

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    b. [FONT=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Where is the car that came to the rescue? (in the middle of the night...)? was one of the agents had a changed heart and decided to spare Ulimboka's life (very probable); did he rush the others to give Ulimboka a chance to survive!.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Really now, that's new information to me but either way Mr President already asserted that the Government is not involved[/FONT]
  12. Maundumula

    Maundumula JF-Expert Member

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    Hizi ni what if?

    Basi tuache ku speculate tusubiri uchunguzi utuambie nani amehusika.
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    kookolikoo JF-Expert Member

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    of course MMM knows more than he has outlined here. he was one of the
    first to interview the doctor and made clear in his post here that at that time there were things he was withholding. MMM don't you think it is high time you
    divulge them now?
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    Mwiba JF-Expert Member

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    CIA hawakosi wameshajua hili jambo :spy:
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    Ndahani JF-Expert Member

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    Exactly...Hakuna sababu ya ku speculate na kueleza mambo yasiyo kuwepo. Kwa sasa lazima tuanzie mahali fulani ili ukweli utuweke sote huru.Kitu kizuri kwenye hii story yote ni kwamba Dr. Uli ameweza kusema kwa ufasaha nini uchunguzi ukifanyika will add more values. Propaganda hazina tija kwenye scenario tuliyonayo.
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    mh!!sijachangia kipindi sasa!!!ila ndugu umenilazimisha!!!!!nashindwa kuelewa una akili nyingi sana au ndogo sana!!!ebu zidi kuchangia nikuelewe!!!!!
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    Na wewe tuondolee hapa mawazo yako ya ulevi wa gongo. Tuambie kama alimla demu wako ukamfanyizia wewe.
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    Ruttashobolwa JF-Expert Member

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    your not thinking well
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    Maundumula JF-Expert Member

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    Ni sawa, kwahiyo hamna haja ya kuishutumu serikali au mtu yeyote.

    Wacha wahusika wafanye kazi yao naamini tutafika mahala tutajua.
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    Nothing new? nothing better? this one has flopped once again.