Apple wanatumia teknolojia gani kwenye vifaa vyao?

Apple wanatumia teknolojia gani kwenye vifaa vyao?

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Jamani inakuwaje iphone yenye 1gb ram na processor mbili(dual core) kujitutumua na hata kuwa mshindi dhidi ya android devices kama htc one m8 yenye processor 4 na 2gb of ram,je apple teknolojia yao iko more advanced?

HTC one m8 ina 2.3ghz processor na iphone 6 ina 1.4 processor,ukiachilia mbali htc kwenye speed test s5 knockout katolewa.vipi siku apple wakatoa device yao yenye 3gb,je android watahitaji kuweka 8gb?ahsanteni
 
Apple wana advantage ya complete control of their devices and operating system kwahiyo wanaweza kufanya optimizations nzuri sana which boosts performance kidogo.

Processors:

Apple design their own CPUs(the A series) and they not any better than oppositions chips. e,g Tegra K1 outperforms Apple's A8 in many tests, but benchmarks sio kila kitu.

Comparing cores sio kila kitu, but they come handy in multicore performance; top of the line Qualcomm and Nvidia processors outperforms A series in multicore performances, but it usually comes down kuwa not many developers can truly take advantage of all the cores hence many apps run kwenye single core which even with that the Tegra K1 outperforms the A8.

So at least in this round for processors Tegra K1 is the one to beat not Apple's A8.

RAM

Biggest weakness of apple devices, 1gb of ram(except iPad Air 2) degrades iOS multitasking by much. mfano fungua like 4 tabs kwenye safari, then leave the app and open other apps kidogo, ukirudi lazima page zote zijiload upya.

And the same is true to almost all other apps but they counter it by saving the state of the application and reloads it back to that state tena. Android phones having more ram gives it the edge kwenye multitasking.

Also speedtests are affected na many factors, sio CPU and RAM tu. Optimization is key, and since android is general it lacks the per hardware optimization iPhones have, also Android runs on a virtual machine which also slows down vitu kidogo etc
 
Ni hiyo optimization ya hardware na software wanayoweza kufanya Apple kama ub16 alivyosema na pia jinsi program za Android kwa vile ni Java zinarun kwenye VM kuna impact kwenye performance.

Pia App za Android zina uhuru zaidi kufanya vitu kwenye background na multitasking katika simu so unaweza ukawa App hauitumii at the moment lakini inakula RAM/Network/CPU vyote vinaifanya simu yako izidi kuwa slow.

Apple wanarestrict zaidi App kwa hiyo ile app unayoitumia inakuwa na resources nyingi zaidi.
 
ub16,

Kaka sijakuelewa unaposema kwamba A8 si bora mbele ya tegra k1, kwani ubora wa processor unaangalia vigezo vipi?

Na je apple wakitoa processor mfano 2.4ghz quadcore na 3gb of ram, je android devices zitahitaji specs zipi ku compete katika speed?
 
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Kaka sijakuelewa unaposema kwamba A8 si bora mbele ya tegra k1, kwani ubora wa processor unaangalia vigezo vipi? Na je apple wakitoa processor mfano 2.4ghz quadcore na 3gb of ram, je android devices zitahitaji specs zipi ku compete katika speed?

usiangalie ghz zitakupoteza, ghz zinakuwa na maana pale tu aina ya processor inapokuwa moja.

simu karibia zote duniani zinatumia processor za arm, ambazo ni open source then wanazimoddify kulingana na wanavyojua wao. sasa hivi kuna processor nne za arm zinazotumika sana.

cortex A57 -64bit
cortex A15 -32 bit
cortex A53 -64 bit
cortex A7 -32 bit

cortex A7 na 53 zenyewe zinakula power ndogo lakini pia zinatoa perfomance ndogo na cortex A15 na 57 zinakula power kubwa na kutoa perfomance kubwa.

kutokea hapo juu ndio unapata tegra k1, x1, exynos 7, snapdragon 810 na apple a8.

tuje kwenye swali lako sasa.

kama iphone inakuja na 2.4ghz quadcore na 3gb ram je android itahitaji specs gani ili perfomance kuwa sawa?

kwenye android issue sio specs bali ni optimization. simu ya android ambayo ni haiji na service za google (aosp) na ikafanyiwa optimization nzuri basi inaweza kuwa na speed kama vile ios.

ila manufacture wengi wa android wanachojali wao ni hela. nikupe mfano galaxy s4 wakati inatoka ilikuwa na internal 16gb lakini kati ya hizo gb 8 tu ndio zilikuwa free, almost gb 6 zilitumika kujaza bloatware. ukiinunua dukani unakuta kuna apps kama 80 za google na samsung ushaekewa na huwezi kuzitoa. kwa style hii usitegemee android kuwa sawa na ios kwenye perfomance. ila simu hio hio ya s4 ukiamua kuiroot na kueka custom rom kama cyanogen inakuwa very fast.

so jibu langu ni kwamba inategemea na oem aliotengeneza hio android rom, kama ni samsung, tecno, na wazee wengine wa bloatware ni near imposibble kupata same perfomance sawa na iphone kwenye same hardware. ila kama ni simu kama motorola au oneplusone unaweza pata perfomance kama ya iphone.

na kuhusu a8 vs k1.
tegra k1 ni soc ya tablets usishangae kuipita a8 ya apple sababu ina TDP kubwa, gpu kubwa nk
 
Kaka sijakuelewa unaposema kwamba A8 si bora mbele ya tegra k1, kwani ubora wa processor unaangalia vigezo vipi?

Na je apple wakitoa processor mfano 2.4ghz quadcore na 3gb of ram, je android devices zitahitaji specs zipi ku compete katika speed?

You are still missing the point because you are blinded by numbers, Chief Mkwawa kakujibu vizuri tu hapo juu. Don't base your theories on what ifs? mbona mediatek wana processor zenye crazy high number of cores and ghz but still bado they are not on level ground na Qualcomm or Nvidia.

Mfano Tegra K1 64-bit, 2-Cores, 2.4ghz but sio kuwa kila mara inarun at 2.4ghz, but incase you need the power it is there. Same goes with RAM, sio kuwa unatumia yote at all times. Apple tend to limit vitu to only what they think you'll need, which is pretty much what an android user plays with in day-to-day usage.
 
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Hv hapo ni cmu ya company gani ambayo Ipo poa katika matumizi?
 
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Unapozungumzia ios basi unazungumzia iphone
Lakini unapozungumzia Android unazungumzia device nyingi mmno

Hapa ndipo Apple wanapopiga bao kwa kufanya optimization wanavyo weza

Tofauti na Android itengenezwe na Google simu itengenezwe na Samsung au Tecno nk

Inabidi watengeneza simu waende na Android inavyotaka
 
Apple wana advantage ya complete control of their devices and operating system kwahiyo wanaweza kufanya optimizations nzuri sana which boosts performance kidogo.

Processors:
Apple design their own CPUs(the A series) and they not any better than oppositions chips. e,g Tegra K1 outperforms Apple's A8 in many tests, but benchmarks sio kila kitu.
Comparing cores sio kila kitu, but they come handy in multicore performance; top of the line Qualcomm and Nvidia processors outperforms A series in multicore performances, but it usually comes down kuwa not many developers can truly take advantage of all the cores hence many apps run kwenye single core which even with that the Tegra K1 outperforms the A8.
So at least in this round for processors Tegra K1 is the one to beat not Apple's A8.

RAM
Biggest weakness of apple devices, 1gb of ram(except iPad Air 2) degrades iOS multitasking by much. mfano fungua like 4 tabs kwenye safari, then leave the app and open other apps kidogo, ukirudi lazima page zote zijiload upya. And the same is true to almost all other apps but they counter it by saving the state of the application and reloads it back to that state tena. Android phones having more ram gives it the edge kwenye multitasking.

Also speedtests are affected na many factors, sio CPU and RAM tu. Optimization is key, and since android is general it lacks the per hardware optimization iPhones have, also Android runs on a virtual machine which also slows down vitu kidogo etc

Mkuu huo uandishi hatari...
 
Jamani si uko mtandaoni?!!! Compare hizo simu za budget hiyo. Utaanza kuuliza hadi duka sasa.

Nataka nijue company gani ya cmu ina smartphone nzuri zaidi
 
You are still missing the point because you are blinded by numbers, Chief Mkwawa kakujibu vizuri tu hapo juu. Don't base your theories on what ifs?

mbona mediatek wana processor zenye crazy high number of cores and ghz but still bado they are not on level ground na Qualcomm or Nvidia. Mfano Tegra K1 64-bit, 2-Cores, 2.4ghz but sio kuwa kila mara inarun at 2.4ghz, but incase you need the power it is there. Same goes with RAM, sio kuwa unatumia yote at all times.

Apple tend to limit vitu to only what they think you'll need, which is pretty much what an android user plays with in day-to-day usage.

Kaka in tech it is all about number and everything is number sipo blinded as u said,kitendo cha processor kuwa na multi core ni kurahisisha kazi na kupelekea device iwe faster zaidi,hapo umezungumzia mbona mediatek ipo slow na ina core nyingi,mfano mt6595 ambayo ni mediatek hii ni octa ina cortex A17 nne na cortex A7 nne,hii procesor imetumika katika simu kama mogu m7,lenovo vib x2, na meizu mx4.


Ukija na meizu katika spidi na simu kama lg g3 ambayo inatumia snapdragon 801 ambayo ina 2.36 ghz na ni quad,basi utaona jinsi lg inavyoachwa mbali sana na mediatek,hivyo no of cores na no of circles per sec yaani hertz zitaendelea tu kuwa considerably so quad core is considerably faster than dual core and octa core faster than quad.


Hivi huoni these increases are relatively big?

Suala la optimazition sikubaliani nalo kwa sababu lipo easly to be solved so company kama samsung haiwezi shindwa,umesema apple wana os na simu zao,ios developer wake ni apple inc na android developer wake ni google,mbona google au tuseme android ana simu zake kama nexus 5,nexus 6 na nexus 7 na bado inshu haijawa solved,apple still wana release smartphone zenye spidi?



No of cores na ram zitaendelea kuongeza spidi ya device kama zitaongezwa.

So that is what it is.

Kitu ni kwamba processing power ya chip ina depend na factor nyingi kama IPC,apple walianza na A5 mwaka 2011,na ilifanya vizuri zaidi.
Wakati huo compNy kama qualcomm na mediatek wanafocus on increasing the no of cores wenzao apple wanakaa na kubuni processor zilizo bora zaidi and apple ame make right choice in modifying processor wakati katika ulimwengu wa android wanaongeza tu cores,wataongeza mpaka lini?

Na jua A8 ndio processor yenye kasi zaidi chini ya jua.wakati wenyewe wanahesabiana no of cores mwenzao anabuni vitu complex na kuendelea na dual core,kwanza A8 ina better perfomance kwa kutumia less energy which keep better battery life.




Suala kama hili lilitokea 2006 wakati wakati intel na AMD wapo kwny competition na AMD ,AMD alikuwa anakimbiza sana na kutoa processor bora kabisa mwaka 2002 na 2003,sasa intel akaamua kuendelea kuongeza spidi ya processor zake japo zilikuwa zina fika 3ghz waliendelea kuwa nyuma ya AMD, bcuz ipc ilikuwa low, intel kaja kugutuka 2006 akaja na E6300 na ilikuwa na 1.9Ghz huku previously release kama intel pentium ikiwa na 3ghz,

lakini uone sasA zote ni kampuni moja lakini e6300 alimchomoa pentium kwa sababu wLijisahihisha,so inshu ya optimazition haihusiki kabisa,na hicho ndio kama kinachotokea hivi sasa katika ulimwengu wa mobile processors.



Njia ya pekee itakayo badilisha ni kama kampuni zinazotengeneza androids chips kama wataanza kubore sha core zao na si kufanya optimazition au reduction of bloatware au pre-installed bloTware, so waboreshe cpu architecture la sivyo apple watatake control mpaka mwisho wa dunia.

jamaa wamejipanga Na Scott Wasson mtaalamu wa teknolojia katika vifaa kama hivi katika web ya Guru anasema si kitu chepesi kutengeneza processor kama hizi.

Wajipange, apple big up.

 
unaisifia sana hii simu sijui kwanini?hivi m9 hujaiona?

zamani kabla ya mwaka 2012 qualcom alikuwa anaitwa crapdragon na processor zake alikuwa kama mediatek tu hana jipya. samsung akaja akatoa exynos zake mpaka exynos quad, kipindi hiki qualcom alikuwa anatumia design ya arm ile ile bila kuimodify.

then ghafla qualcom akatoa snapdragon s4 ambayo ilikuwa inatumia processor inayoitwa krait, hii krait ilikuwa ni cortex a15 ambayo imekuwa improved. processor hii japo ilikuwa dualcore ila ilikuwa very powerfull, samsung ikabidi upesi atengeneze version ya s3 yenye snapdragon.

kuanzia mwaka 2012, 2013, 2014 qualcomm ametamba sana na processor zake za krait, then ghafla arm akatoa design mpya za 64 bit ambazo ni cortex a53, a57 na a72 hivyo oem wa android wakahama toka 32bit kuja 64bit.

processor ya kwanza ya qualcomm ya 64 bit kwenye highend ni hii snapdragon 810 ambayo ina cortex a57, so inamaana qualcomm ameacha design yake ya krait iliompa umaarufu then amerudi kwenye design za arm ambazo zamani zilimshusha hadhi. ndio maana umeona sd 810 imeachwa mbali sana na exynos 7. hapa sjaanza mambo ya ku throtle na overheating. hawa jamaa wa sd810 itabidi wapunguze bei la sivyo mwaka huu watapotezwa wengi.

snapdragon 820
tayari tumeanza kupata taarifa za huyu jamaa na kwamba qualcomm wanatengeneza custom design inayoitwa kyro, hivyo huwenda jamaa muda si mrefu wakarudi kwenye game kwa kasi. zinaweza kutoka m9 plus au prime ili kucatch up na samsung.

s6 pia ina memory zina speed sana, wakati simu za kawaida speed ya kuread ni around 100mbps yenyewe s6 ni hadi ni zaidi ya 300mbps. kuna utofauti mkubwa hapo ukizitumia simu hizi mbili utafeel kabisa perfomance zinavyotofautiana. ni kama mmoja anatumia hdd na mwengine ssd
 
Kaka in tech it is all about number and everything is number sipo blinded as u said,kitendo cha processor kuwa na multi core ni kurahisisha kazi na kupelekea device iwe faster zaidi,

Multicore bila single core perfomance kubwa ni useless kaka, mfano browser inatumia core 1 tu inamaana unapoingia kwenye internet na octacore zako then core 7 hazitumiki na core 1 tu ndio itatumika. mwenye dualcore zenye nguvu anytime anamshinda mwenye octacore kwenye situation hii.

sehemu ambayo multicore zinakuwa na advantage ni pale program zinapokuwa optimized kutumia thread nyingi.sijawahi sikia kwenye simu apps hizi na kwenye pc zipo ila chache kama vile software za kuedit video zinapofanya rendering core nyingi zinasaidia.


hapo umezungumzia mbona mediatek ipo slow na ina core nyingi,mfano mt6595 ambayo ni mediatek hii ni octa ina cortex A17 nne na cortex A7 nne,hii procesor imetumika katika simu kama mogu m7,lenovo vib x2, na meizu mx4.


Ukija na meizu katika spidi na simu kama lg g3 ambayo inatumia snapdragon 801 ambayo ina 2.36 ghz na ni quad,basi utaona jinsi lg inavyoachwa mbali sana na mediatek,hivyo no of cores na no of circles per sec yaani hertz zitaendelea tu kuwa considerably so quad core is considerably faster than dual core and octa core faster than quad.


Hivi huoni these increases are relatively big?
nazitoa processor za 64bit
-krait
-cortex a15
-cortex a17
-cortex a7

mediatek katupa gimmick ya mwaka most useless processor kwa kuiclock cortex a7 kwenda 2ghz, cortex a7 imetengenezwa itumie energy ndogo na kutoa perfomance ndogo, angalia snapdragon 400 ina 1.2ghz tu. unajua effect ya kuiclock processor ndogo?

1.unamaliza battery na kutoa maana ya kutumia processor ya kutokula chaji
2. hutapata perfomance kubwa sababu architecture iliotumika haina nguvu.

ingekuwa ni kwenye pc ni sawa na kuiclock celeron au atom iende 5ghz utegemee iipite i5/i7 kitu ambacho ni imposibble.

kuprove point zangu hapo juu angalia rating ya battery ya lenovo vibe x2 ina score mbovu kupindukia only 50hrs kucompare na 101hrs ya xperia z3c yenye sd 801.

na kuclaim sd801 inapitwa na cortex a7 na a17 huu ni utani huwezi fananisha krait au cortex a15 na cortex a7 au a17 hazipo same league




Suala la optimazition sikubaliani nalo kwa sababu lipo easly to be solved so company kama samsung haiwezi shindwa,umesema apple wana os na simu zao,ios developer wake ni apple inc na android developer wake ni google,mbona google au tuseme android ana simu zake kama nexus 5,nexus 6 na nexus 7 na bado inshu haijawa solved,
ngoja nikupe mfano wa nokia na microsoft, kipindi microsoft hajainunua nokia d&s walikua wanalalamika kuwa hawaonyeshwi hardware na nokia sababu ni classified information. sasa hivi baada ya kuinunua microsoft ameifanya sd 400 kuwa faster kuliko sd s4. hii ni sababu microsoft ana control na hardware na software sasa hivi ndio maana kaijenga os yake around sd400.

android? never ever samsung kuja kumuonesha google blueprint za simu zake sababu what if google akampa patner wake anaestrugle siri hizo? even hizo nexus unazozisema google anashauri tu lakini si simu zake. mauzo na siri za device wanabaki nazo oem.

hebu angalia hii fragmentation ya android

processor-exynos, broadcom, qualcomm, mediatek, all winner, intel, tegra
gpu- adreno, powervr, mali, nvidia
screen, kuanzia 240x320 hadi 2k kila angle zipo
display type- tft, ips, oled, amoled
bluetooth- 2,3,4
camera- wengine toshiba wengine sony na makampuni mengine

ukifanya probability hapo unaweza toa mamilioni ya simu tofauti, ingekuwa wewe ni google unge optimize vipi?


apple still wana release smartphone zenye spidi?

No of cores na ram zitaendelea kuongeza spidi ya device kama zitaongezwa.

So that is what it is.

Kitu ni kwamba processing power ya chip ina depend na factor nyingi kama IPC,apple walianza na A5 mwaka 2011,na ilifanya vizuri zaidi.


Wakati huo compNy kama qualcomm na mediatek wanafocus on increasing the no of cores wenzao apple wanakaa na kubuni processor zilizo bora zaidi and apple ame make right choice in modifying processor wakati katika ulimwengu wa android wanaongeza tu cores,wataongeza mpaka lini?

Na jua A8 ndio processor yenye kasi zaidi chini ya jua.
exynos 7 ndio processor ya simu yenye kasi zaidi kushinda hata a8 ya apple kama hutajali niletee benchmark zako kuwa a8 imeipita exynos 7

wakati wenyewe wanahesabiana no of cores mwenzao anabuni vitu complex na kuendelea na dual core,kwanza A8 ina better perfomance kwa kutumia less energy which keep better battery life.
kama unataka kuwatetea apple usitaje batterylife kabisaa maana unaingia chaka




Suala kama hili lilitokea 2006 wakati wakati intel na AMD wapo kwny competition na AMD ,AMD alikuwa anakimbiza sana na kutoa processor bora kabisa mwaka 2002 na 2003, sasa intel akaamua kuendelea kuongeza spidi ya processor zake japo zilikuwa zina fika 3ghz waliendelea kuwa nyuma ya AMD, bcuz ipc ilikuwa low, intel kaja kugutuka 2006 akaja na E6300 na ilikuwa na 1.9Ghz huku previously release kama intel pentium ikiwa na 3ghz,lakini uone sasA zote ni kampuni moja lakini e6300 alimchomoa pentium kwa sababu wLijisahihisha,so inshu ya optimazition haihusiki kabisa,na hicho ndio kama kinachotokea hivi sasa katika ulimwengu wa mobile processors.



Njia ya pekee itakayo badilisha ni kama kampuni zinazotengeneza androids chips kama wataanza kubore sha core zao na si kufanya optimazition au reduction of bloatware au pre-installed bloTware,so waboreshe cpu architecture la sivyo apple watatake control mpaka mwisho wa dunia.jamaa wamejipanga Na Scott Wasson mtaalamu wa teknolojia katika vifaa kama hivi katika web ya Guru anasema si kitu chepesi kutengeneza processor kama hizi.

Wajipange ,,,apple big up.


Apple kwenye 32bit hajawahi kuipita krait kwenye power ya core 1 kila siku alikuwa anaachwa mbali tu, amekuja kumpita krait alipotoa processor ya 64bit. qualcom hajafanya design ya 64bit subiria kyro then utaona nani mkali wa cip za simu. ila tukisubiria kyro apple ana kazi ya kuipita exynos 7 kwanza
 
S.W.A.T,

Chief Mkwawa kakujibu kila kitu hapo. sitaki kujirudia.
 
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S.W.A.T,

Mkuu it seems like you know a lot about this stuff but you're little bit confusing

Chief Mkwawa kajaribu kukujibu vizuri
 
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