Against the Myth of Satan

[Eiyer]

First; it appears that you do not know what you are claiming to know, It is a Pity. So, you are agreeing with us because our arguments are based on evidences, we deny the existence of satan. we are just saying it is a myth
In fact we are proclaiming that Satan does not exist if you agree that God did not creat satan then you are on our good side.
If you deny Evil in the world do you mean that people do not suffer,
Do you mean that they are no innocents people who are suffering without reasons!!@@
In fact if you argue on the side of science that is our stand.
For us we wanna things which are testable,experimented, emprical and observed. We are not dealing with faith. So if you support those values then you are contradicting youself.
It seems you support the existence of satan and yet you do not believe it like us. Haaaah.

We jamaa ni wa ajabu sana ....

Nilidhani unajua hata ulichoandika kumbe hakuna kitu ...

Nilidhani unaweza kujibu maswali kume hakuna kitu ....

Labda nikuambie tu kuwa shimo unalotaka kuchimba halipo kabisa hivyo usipoteze wakati wako ....

 

[descarte]

We jamaa ni wa ajabu sana ....

Nilidhani unajua hata ulichoandika kumbe hakuna kitu ...

Nilidhani unaweza kujibu maswali kume hakuna kitu ....

Labda nikuambie tu kuwa shimo unalotaka kuchimba halipo kabisa hivyo usipoteze wakati wako ....

Fallacious comment
What did you wanna say?
I hope you have read the thread can you give us answers of the qns above

 

[crecknerz]

Life is nature no god n nothng...live free n happy..hizo zote ni.old stories that wamezifanya zikawa dini thn to bussiness

 

[Eiyer]

Fallacious comment
What did you wanna say?
I hope you have read the thread can you give us answers of the qns above

Nilichokisema hujakiona?

Kama maswali ya Ishmael yamekushinda unataka maswali gani mengine?

 

[descarte]

Nilichokisema hujakiona?

Kama maswali ya Ishmael yamekushinda unataka maswali gani mengine?

I have answered all the questions just read my previous comment before his.
If you cannot see that then you have not examine my comment seriously.

 

[Eiyer]

I have answered all the questions just read my previous comment before his.
If you cannot see that then you have not examine my comment seriously.

Majibu ya haya maswali yako wapi?

Start by reading your own assumptions on the main thread. Paragraph number 2. I will quote it for easy of reference.



IN RED: God never created Satan, evil, sin, etc. You need to tell me how did you come up with that? All I need is provable evidence.

IN BLUE: You need to tell me, why are you using the "if he is good". Tell why did you use "if"?

IN PURPLE: You need to prove to us the words in purple. You accused someone, now, give us evidence.

IN TEAL: Support your words in teal.

If you are serious and you want to debate with me, then start by supporting your own words. Otherwise, don't waste my time.

NOTE: All of your answers must be, provable, testable, repeatable, empirical and theoretically verifiable evidences.

 

[descarte]

Majibu ya haya maswali yako wapi?

First; it appears that you do not know what you are claiming to know, It is a Pity. So, you are agreeing with us because our arguments are based on evidences, we deny the existence of satan. we are just saying it is a myth
In fact we are proclaiming that Satan does not exist if you agree that God did not creat satan then you are on our good side.
If you deny Evil in the world do you mean that people do not suffer,😆
Do you mean that they are no innocents people who are suffering without reasons!!@@
In fact if you argue on the side of science that is our stand.
For us we wanna things which are testable,experimented, emprical and observed. We are not dealing with faith. So if you support those values then you are contradicting youself.
It seems you support the existence of satan and yet you do not believe it like us. Haaaah.

 

[Eiyer]

First; it appears that you do not know what you are claiming to know, It is a Pity. So, you are agreeing with us because our arguments are based on evidences, we deny the existence of satan. we are just saying it is a myth
In fact we are proclaiming that Satan does not exist if you agree that God did not creat satan then you are on our good side.
If you deny Evil in the world do you mean that people do not suffer,
Do you mean that they are no innocents people who are suffering without reasons!!@@
In fact if you argue on the side of science that is our stand.
For us we wanna things which are testable,experimented, emprical and observed. We are not dealing with faith. So if you support those values then you are contradicting youself.
It seems you support the existence of satan and yet you do not believe it like us. Haaaah.

I see.....

Hebu twende taratubu ....

Hebu nioneshe majibu ya swali namba moja linalouliza "in red"...

 

[descarte]

I see.....

Hebu twende taratubu ....

Hebu nioneshe majibu ya swali namba moja linalouliza "in red"...

Boy!! You follow up yourself, I am sure you are not a primary kid.
Anyway that was Ishamael. what did you wanna say as far as your reaction of this thread is concerned.

 

[Eiyer]

Boy!! You follow up yourself, I am sure you are not a primary kid.
Anyway that was Ishamael. what did you wanna say as far as your reaction of this thread is concerned.

Umeelewa sas kuwa wewe ni mbabaishaji?

Swali dogo tu kijana,nioneshe majibu yako kwenye hiyo post yanayoonesha swali linalosema "in red"...

Mbona unakuwa na lugha ndeeefu wakati ni wewe tu kutoa jibu?
Si umejibu kama unavyodai?

Majibu yako wapi?

 

[descarte]

Umeelewa sas kuwa wewe ni mbabaishaji?

Swali dogo tu kijana,nioneshe majibu yako kwenye hiyo post yanayoonesha swali linalosema "in red"...

Mbona unakuwa na lugha ndeeefu wakati ni wewe tu kutoa jibu?
Si umejibu kama unavyodai?

Majibu yako wapi?

I do not know what you need, I said read my comment and qns the person asked. What do you want.
In fact the guy you qouted he failed to explain things he claims to know.

 

[Maziku-Winston Smith]

Mimi namwamini Mungu lakini kiukweli sijawahi kupewa jibu sahihi kuwa kwa nini Lucifer aliumbwa ili hali Mungu ni OMNISCIENT (all-knowing)

Ilifikia mahali mpaka walimu wangu wa dini walikubali kuwa Mungu alijua ila alikuwa na mpango fulani mahsusi kwa wanadamu!!

Napata kizunguzungu kwa kweli

 

[descarte]

Mimi namwamini Mungu lakini kiukweli sijawahi kupewa jibu sahihi kuwa kwa nini Lucifer aliumbwa ili hali Mungu ni OMNISCIENT (all-knowing)

Ilifikia mahali mpaka walimu wangu wa dini walikubali kuwa Mungu alijua ila alikuwa na mpango fulani mahsusi kwa wanadamu!!

Napata kizunguzungu kwa kweli

I am not against your religious Rabbi or teacher. I can tell you what i think, it is correct as far as my knowledge and reasons are concerned.
Lucifer is once upon a time story. It aims to instill fear. Lucifer is not a concrete Being.

 

[Maziku-Winston Smith]

I am not against your religious Rabbi or teacher. I can tell you what i think, it is correct as far as my knowledge and reasons are concerned.
Lucifer is once upon a time story. It aims to instill fear. Lucifer is not a concrete Being.

How about God.Do you believe in God?Do you believe that God exists?

 

[baest]

IGWE This is a clear misunderstanding of the literary form(the style of writing by the author) of the text. The author of the mentioned texts is bewildered lyk u n me n wants to giv a response y evil exists. He uses images familiar frm his surrounding to respond. He is answering wit faith n not historically. The one who sent you the above is wrong to take it historically n that's y he is posing good questions but they r grounded in gross misunderstanding of the intention of the author. The fact is human beings are pulled by two forces. There's is God'd force which leads to lyf n the contrary is against God's, if u wish u can call it Satan or Lucifer or anything. This force in u and me was made by God to allow us hav choice n not b robots. God has put enough power in all of us to resist that ungodly force but not everybod is ready to leav that. Many pipo go for ungodly things n hence making evil force seem to b greater that God. having many evil people does not lessen God's power. Let's us endeavor to encourage people to follow God's way. Don't force or coerce them. They r free n one day there r av to face their choices. Satan is not smart may be you believe so ....siwezi kukushikia fimbo uamini..he/she doing wat we can col "cunning"
Huwezi kuclame you need more story of satan in the holy book.. Remember bible is for God and for satan

 

[baest]

IGWE angalia hiyooo..sio tumekaririshwa au wamekaririsha

 

[descarte]

IGWE This is a clear misunderstanding of the literary form(the style of writing by the author) of the text. The author of the mentioned texts is bewildered lyk u n me n wants to giv a response y evil exists. He uses images familiar frm his surrounding to respond. He is answering wit faith n not historically. The one who sent you the above is wrong to take it historically n that's y he is posing good questions but they r grounded in gross misunderstanding of the intention of the author. The fact is human beings are pulled by two forces. There's is God'd force which leads to lyf n the contrary is against God's, if u wish u can call it Satan or Lucifer or anything. This force in u and me was made by God to allow us hav choice n not b robots. God has put enough power in all of us to resist that ungodly force but not everybod is ready to leav that. Many pipo go for ungodly things n hence making evil force seem to b greater that God. having many evil people does not lessen God's power. Let's us endeavor to encourage people to follow God's way. Don't force or coerce them. They r free n one day there r av to face their choices. Satan is not smart may be you believe so ....siwezi kukushikia fimbo uamini..he/she doing wat we can col "cunning"
Huwezi kuclame you need more story of satan in the holy book.. Remember bible is for God and for satan

Great!!!
First what do you mean by Force?
You talked about Godly force, does this mean force is an attribute of God?
where does this opposing force against God comes from?
Who created that force?
What is the place of such force in the universe?

 

[descarte]

How about God.Do you believe in God?Do you believe that God exists?

I am an Agnostic

 

[Tufu]

God among other things He created angles. 4 big angles were Gabriael,Raphael, Michael and Lucifael. The later failed to obey God so him with his supporting angles were thrown out of heaven to earth. Lucifael rocked kuzimu, cursed and no room for forgiveness. he was deemed. All angles who became bad, vs Gos were now called satan to been enemy of God. Similarly God created good humans; spiritual beings – our spirit is immortal; will outlast the body; Intellectual beings – We thinks, reason and solve problems; Relational beings- we give and receive real love; Moral consciousness – we can discern right from wrong. If we choose to to bad things we joing the team of satan which is agaist God. So God created all things good but some good ones changed to become bad. It is like a strong man, instead of using his strength to heal people, he may decide to use his strength to kill them. This is not the problem of God but the problem of the one who is using the gifts given to him badly.

 

[Maziku-Winston Smith]

I am an Agnostic

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