Rev. Kishoka
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Namini hili ndio kosa alilolifanya Nyerere, hakuacha hizi Instutions bali acha CCM kama the Only Institution na ndio maana alisema BILA CCM IMARA Taifa Litayumba. so alitumia Muda mwingi Kujenga CCM badala ya Institutions za Kitaifa kama Mahakama, jeshi, bunge, bila kusahahu serekali.
Salim A salim was a believer but he is sorrounded by greedies!!
But all in all to conclude this topic We needed and we still need "strong instutions and not strong Leader"
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what a waste of your time, hating on someone you'd never even wash his shoes, let alone get an eye for whatever reasons a man might have
If you think leadership can transform you, you are so mistaken. If Jesus could never transform you, who could?
What good did he do for the country for 24 long years? apart from leaving it the poorest in the world?
If you think leadership can transform you, you are so mistaken. If Jesus could never transform you, who could?
Udini mama... sio wenyewe kabisa
Una transformation yoyote kutoka kwa Mtume Muhammad S.A.W??
Jesus did not force anyone to transform, he preached of better ways and allow our individualselves to make that choice. I believe same thing was done by Mohammed, he did not seek to force people into transformation of being good citizens and followers of the faith he preached.
Same will be said about political leadership. It is there to inspire and plant ideas, thoughts that will transform an individual into a desied state. However it is a choice that individual to make to agree or disagree.
A good leadership has vast followers and believers of the message of the leader. That is what Jesus and Mohammed achievd, that is what Washington, Lenin, Mao, Nyerere and Arafat achieved and were sucessful to a certain extent, ending up betrayed by few greedy close supporters!
Just check with DRC and they will tell you......... we have somewhat similar blessings of natural resources, but they ran for quick bucs and we didnt, we are trying now and you see where we are heading
Kibanga,
You have hit the nail!. Assumption alizokuwa nazo Mwalimu baada ya Azimio la Arusha with a little speech here and there and under one party system was that everything was going to go into auto pilot.
What Mwalimu failed to see is who were truly his followers/desciples. He failed to adhere to the Italian saying keep your friends close, but keep your ememies closer.
He assumed his followers were truly believers of Siasa ya Ujamaa na Kujitegemea and were fighting same battle with him, not knowing they were fighting him.
We now know who betrayed him and who played him... there is no need for forensic investigations into it, the evidence is loud and clear!
Dada - ni kuwa sera ya ubinafsishaji ulioletwa na IMF/World Bank, kwa hata vile viwanda vilivyo anzishwa na hayati Mwl. JKN ndiyo imeleta balaa la sembe mjini . Pia mbele ya vipande thelathini vya pesa ( kwa kubinafsisha Viwanda na Migodi) watu (viongozi) ambao Mwalimu aliona ndio waumini wake wa karibu wakawa wa kwanza kumsaliti...Hivi Tanzania bila kusaidiwa kutoka nje ina nini zaidi, inachoweza kusema cha kujivunia kujiendesha yenyewe?
Hata sindano ya kushonea hatujuwi kutengeneza bila msaada wa nje, hivi mnataka kusema nini?
Dada - ni kuwa sera ya ubinafsishaji ulioletwa na IMF/World Bank, kwa hata vile viwanda vilivyo anzishwa na hayati Mwl. JKN ndiyo imeleta balaa la sembe mjini . Pia mbele ya vipande thelathini vya pesa ( kwa kubinafsisha Viwanda na Migodi) watu (viongozi) ambao Mwalimu aliona ndio waumini wake wa karibu wakawa wa kwanza kumsaliti...
Dada F - tuli wahi ku-debate hili in one of the previous threads. Kutaifisha mashamba pengine naweza kukubaliana kuwa it may have not been the right decision. Lakini je kubinafsisha Migodi yote ya Dhahabu na almasi in return for 3% royalty per year, Kweli unaona hiyo ni Busara? And was it JKN's fault?..Moja katika makosa aliyoyafanya Nyerere ni kuanzisha na kutaifisha (kudhulumu) viwanda wakati hana wa kuviendesha.
Sasa wewe fikiria ukakope bank na kiwanda unachotegemea kikuingizie pesa za kurudisha kinakuingizia hasara badala ya faida ni benki ipi itakukopesha? mawee!
Kikwete won the presidency by bribery. I am told the night before the nomination, Rostum Aziz approached Mkapa and offered him a $3million bribery to ensure Kikwete is nominated. Mkapa played with the nominating process to ensure Kikwete becomes president, and like Judas, up to this day he is "ashamed" of himself. I hope he clarifies this in his soon to be published book.We have been misled and misdirected for the last 10 years! The campaign to destabilize Tanzania started before Mwinyi's term was done and massive facilitation of the strategy happened there after and later on, fingers are being pointed to a weakly ------...
Who were the people behind Mkapa accension to power?
Why did Mwalimu played a wrong hand with Mizengwe and toss Msuya who was the heir apparent after Mwinyi under false premise of taming Kikwete and allow Mkapa to become the humble no name to become the president?
Was Kikwete awarded the presidence to silence him and a reward for his loyalty that has turned him blind, deaf and basically ineffective?
In 10 years of Mkapa, the formal execution of trade liberalisation took place where literaly all mashirikaz were sold, sold for pennies and there was massive campain to privatise everything and the greatest Changa la macho we got from Mr. Uwazi bin Clean was Paris Club writting off our debts and the so called surplus that now Kikwete has squandered!
No one asks when EPA really happened despite the fact the benefactor was the current President, the death of industrialization and uzawa movement in exchange of massive FDI programs that brought us Barrick, IPTL and other "foreign investments" program under TIC!
No one remembers that Abdallah Kigoda was then Waziri wa Viwanda and came about from finance I believe and he was being prepared to become heir apparent until Sitta, Kikwete and Lowassa flexed their muscles and what they were left with is fighting each other for power!
As we remember Nyerere, we need to come out of our comfort zone and ask each other the hard questions, starting with Msuya's speech conceeding nomination 1995...who played and fooled Nyerere the master of politics, the genius who led us through throngs of so many ill elements?
When he passed away in London, were the tears shed by these crooks genuine or were there to appease Watanzania?
Sadly Kikwete will fall into his own sword for being a weak president to act who all ills are pointed to him and all he could do best is play diplomacy within his party and shrug his shoulders!
Hapo ndio unapokosea Faizafox, wakati wa Mwalimu angalau viwanda vilikuwapo na wote tulivishuhudia na wengine walifanya kazi huko, ni kweli alikuwa akipata misaada lakini alijitahid kujenga taifa lisilo tegemezi sana! Haya yote usemayo yalianza wakati wa Mzee Mwinyi!Hivi Tanzania bila kusaidiwa kutoka nje ina nini zaidi, inachoweza kusema cha kujivunia kujiendesha yenyewe?
Hata sindano ya kushonea hatujuwi kutengeneza bila msaada wa nje, hivi mnataka kusema nini?
Dada F - tuli wahi ku-debate hili in one of the previous threads. Kutaifisha mashamba pengine naweza kukubaliana kuwa it may have not been the right decision. Lakini je kubinafsisha Migodi yote ya Dhahabu na almasi in return for 3% royalty per year, Kweli unaona hiyo ni Busara? And was it JKN's fault?..
Hivi Tanzania bila kusaidiwa kutoka nje ina nini zaidi, inachoweza kusema cha kujivunia kujiendesha yenyewe?
Hata sindano ya kushonea hatujuwi kutengeneza bila msaada wa nje, hivi mnataka kusema nini?
Even Mzee Kingunge testifies this, unbelievable on how Tanzanians can pretend!Mmmmh very hard to understand! How come no body within a group of mwalimu dare not to follow what they have been belief? That mean mwalimu was alone of his believe?