Thanks for the link. This was local fire marshall but not the official statement from fire department. However hongereni kwa ku-attract crowds ingawa naomba kuuliza kama unauliza kwa nini tunam-compare namba 1 to your number 2 my answer is your Babu cannot filll even a town hall!!!! Kaaaaazi kwelikweli. Is this McCain-Palin au Palin- McCain ticket?
Jamani acheni ku-distort and inflate figures na facts!!!Sarah Palin tonight attracted the largest crowd yet to any Republican campaign event this cycle, drawing tens of thousands of Floridians out in a conservative-leaning retirement community north of Orlando for a solo rally.
Exactly how many voters Palin, making her first campaign trek to the Sunshine State, had in The Villages is uncertain.
Mike Tucker, a local fire marshal, estimated 60,000. But reporters on the ground, including AP's Brendan Farrington and my colleague Ken Vogel, would only say "tens of thousands," suggesting the marshal's estimate was on the high side. The St. Pete Times's Adam Smith had another fire official in the crowd say it was about 25,000.
I'm happy with the ticket either way...McCain -Palin or Palin-McCain.....a team of mavericks ready to shake things up......ahahahaaaaaaa....
Halafu vipi, mbona polls zinaonyesha Michigan is now tied? What's going on?
Nyaniiii! NImekubamba! Here is the more exact wording from Politico:
Jamani acheni ku-distort and inflate figures na facts!!!
I'm not distorting anything...read this from CNN.....
LADY LAKE, Florida (CNN) The Villages, which bills itself as Floridas premier active adult retirement community, is a regular stopover for presidential candidates hunting for votes in this quadrennial electoral battleground.
Sarah Palin chose the sprawling golf haven as the place to make her Florida debut on Saturday, just her fifth campaign event apart from John McCain since becoming the vice presidential nominee. It may have been a wise choice, if only for the optics on the same day Barack Obama drew over 20,000 voters to an outdoor rally in North Carolina, Palin attracted tens of thousands of her own sun-baked supporters.
Though the audience was one of the Palins largest to date, the actual size of the crowd was unclear. According Mike Tucker, the fire chief of The Villages who was made available to the press by the McCain campaign, 60,000 people crammed into the streets to see Palin speak.
There were people down the side streets, people down in the parking areas, people who couldn't quite make it around to the main areas, Tucker said, adding that many people were let into the rally without tickets, making the crowd count impossible to verify.
The enthusiastic crowd welcomed Palin with shouts of USA!, and she chanted back along with them. As in many of her speeches, Palin promised that hard-working Americans will dig the country out of its current economic woes, lacing her remarks with fulsome praise for the nation's industrious spirit. She used the words America or Americans 24 times during her 22-minute speech.
On the subject of patriotism, Palin skewered Joe Biden for his recent comment that wealthier Americans should be patriotic about paying more taxes in an Obama administration. (Obama would raise taxes on those making over $250,000 a year.)
To our opponents, their massive tax increase is about patriotism, she said. Now to the rest of America, raising taxes is about killing jobs and hurting small businesses, making things worse. This isnt about patriotism. Its about Barack Obamas poor judgment.
Palin said McCain took a clear stand and offered his own recovery plan in response to the crisis that unfolded on Wall Street last week, but accused Obama with waffling in his response.
Our opponent refused to even take a stand on the position. And thats a lot like his tenure in the Illinois state legislature, when Barack Obama voted present about 130 times, she said. This week he voted present on the major economic issues of the day, and that is not leadership America, its not leadership Americans can afford.
You still only have a quote from Mike Tucker!! And as the Politico article points out it is disputed by others.
Anyway, sioni maana ya kubishana kuhusu namba nilishakupa hongera, sema naona mnataka kuendelea kumjenga Frankensteina wenu. Hata hivyo approval rating yake hivi sasa imeshuka kishenzi! Kwa hiyo she is just a blip on the radar nothing more!
Alafu Ailin' should also listen to the news and take notes (I know it is difficult for her) because today Obama put out a 7 point plan that is much discussed at this moment in time and very well received across the board by economists! McCain has flipflopped na amebaki kuongea pumba eti atam-fire FEC mara aseme SEC boss, and then he was corrected that the president doesn't have the power to fire FEC boss. hahahahaaaaa! Babu yako kwa kudandia vitu??!! McCain has no plan na ame-ahidi kesho ndo ataongea tena kuhusu bailout maana kaona amesemwa sana.
Where is Joe (remember him)....I don't get to hear much of him lately? I s he alive? Oh wait a minute.....he just made gaffe not too long ago, didn't he?
We hufuatilii newz! Joey is alive and KICKIN' ass!! Tunakusanya Bidenism tuanze kuweka katika signatures zetu! Hebu scroll back a few days ago tulikuwa tunadiscuss how happy Democrats are with our attack dog, siyo huyo Kisura wenu ambaye hata hajui sera za chama chenu!! Kwikwikwiiii!
Poor Joey...on average he makes about two gaffes a day! He just can't help himself.....
We subiri TSUNAMI ya November!! Obama will sweep Florida and Ohio!!!Five weeks ago, the St. Petersburg Times convened a group of Tampa Bay voters who were undecided about the presidential election. Their strong distrust of Barack Obama suggested it was a group ripe for John McCain to win over.
Not anymore. The group has swung dramatically, if unenthusiastically, toward Democrat Obama. Most of them this week cited the same reason: Sarah Palin.
"The one thing that frightens me more than anything else are the ideologues. We've seen too many," said 80-year-old Air Force veteran Donn Spegal, a lifelong Republican from St. Petersburg, who sees McCain's new running mate as the kind of "wedge issue" social conservative that has made him disenchanted with his party.
"I'm truly offended by Palin,'' said Republican Philinia Lehr, 37, of Largo, a full-time mother with a nursing degree who voted for George Bush in 2004. Like Palin, she has five children and she doesn't buy that the Alaska governor can adequately balance her family and the vice presidency.
"You're somebody's mom and what are you going to do, say, 'Excuse me, country, hold on?' She's preaching that she's this mom of the year and taking that poor little baby all over everywhere. And, you know, what she's doing to her 17-year-old daughter is just appalling.'' Lehr said she's bothered by the way Palin's pregnant daughter has been brought into the national spotlight.
Of the 11 undecided voters participating in the discussion one recent evening at the Times four Republicans, five Democrats, and two registered to no party only two Republican men applauded the selection of Palin.
Nobody had finalized a choice, but seven of the panelists said that McCain's running mate selection had made them more likely to vote for Obama, and in several cases much more likely.
"And that ticks me off because I do not want Obama,'' said Democrat Annette Kocsis, 68, a former Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter from Clearwater, scoffing at "the pit bull in lipstick," as Palin has called herself.
Nyaniiii! Umeanza? Ok, mi nilikuwa naenda taratibu nikupe muda upoe lakini umekuja na moto! Sasa huyo Palin unasema kaleta female voters kwenu sawa lakini give alittle, take a little, sasa ndo kawatibua watu wa Florida
We subiri TSUNAMI ya November!! Obama will sweep Florida and Ohio!!!
Five weeks ago, the St. Petersburg Times convened a group of Tampa Bay voters who were undecided about the presidential election. Their strong distrust of Barack Obama suggested it was a group ripe for John McCain to win over.
Not anymore. The group has swung dramatically, if unenthusiastically, toward Democrat Obama. Most of them this week cited the same reason: Sarah Palin.
"The one thing that frightens me more than anything else are the ideologues. We've seen too many," said 80-year-old Air Force veteran Donn Spegal, a lifelong Republican from St. Petersburg, who sees McCain's new running mate as the kind of "wedge issue" social conservative that has made him disenchanted with his party.
"I'm truly offended by Palin,'' said Republican Philinia Lehr, 37, of Largo, a full-time mother with a nursing degree who voted for George Bush in 2004. Like Palin, she has five children and she doesn't buy that the Alaska governor can adequately balance her family and the vice presidency.
"You're somebody's mom and what are you going to do, say, 'Excuse me, country, hold on?' She's preaching that she's this mom of the year and taking that poor little baby all over everywhere. And, you know, what she's doing to her 17-year-old daughter is just appalling.'' Lehr said she's bothered by the way Palin's pregnant daughter has been brought into the national spotlight.
Of the 11 undecided voters participating in the discussion one recent evening at the Times four Republicans, five Democrats, and two registered to no party only two Republican men applauded the selection of Palin.
Nobody had finalized a choice, but seven of the panelists said that McCain's running mate selection had made them more likely to vote for Obama, and in several cases much more likely.
"And that ticks me off because I do not want Obama,'' said Democrat Annette Kocsis, 68, a former Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter from Clearwater, scoffing at "the pit bull in lipstick," as Palin has called herself.
Obantu has kids too, how come they are not worried about his ability to balance fatherhood and presidency? Unless they believe Bantu males don't get involved in raising their children, it is usually the responsibility of the Bantu females. If this is their belief then their anger would be justified but otherwise they are a bunch of idiots.
No McSame, No Mcold (McSame bin McOld), No Sarah Liar Palin alias "I was for a bridge to nowhere before I was against it" 🙂
She is simply not ready for anything.
Pact on Debates Will Let McCain and Obama Spar
Todd Heisler/The New York Times
Negotiations over the rules for Gov. Sarah Palin's debate with Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. were thornier than those over the debate between Senators John McCain and Barack Obama.
By PATRICK HEALY
Published: September 20, 2008
The Obama and McCain campaigns have agreed to an unusual free-flowing format for the three televised presidential debates, which begin Friday, but the McCain camp fought for and won a much more structured approach for the questioning at the vice-presidential debate, advisers to both campaigns said Saturday.
Mr. Obama, shown in Florida on Friday, won an agreement for the first debates to be about foreign policy and national security.
At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.
McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.
The wrangling was chiefly between the McCain-Palin camp and the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates, which is sponsoring the forums.
Commission members wanted a relaxed format that included time for unpredictable questioning and challenges between the two vice-presidential candidates. On Wednesday, the commission unanimously rejected a proposal sought by advisers to Ms. Palin and Senator John McCain of Arizona, the Republican presidential nominee, to have the moderator ask questions and the candidates answer, with no time for unfettered exchanges. Advisers to Mr. Biden say they were comfortable with either format.
Both campaigns see the four debates as pivotal moments in a presidential race that is not only extraordinarily close but also drawing intense interest from voters; roughly 40 million viewers watched the major speeches at the two parties' conventions. The upheaval in the financial markets has recast the race in recent days, moreover, which both sides believe will only heighten attention for the debates.
A commission member said that the new agreement on the vice-presidential debate was reached late Saturday morning. It calls for shorter blocks of candidate statements and open discussion than at the presidential debates.
McCain advisers said they were only somewhat concerned about Ms. Palin's debating skills compared with those of Mr. Biden, who has served six terms in the Senate, or about his chances of tripping her up. Instead, they say, they wanted Ms. Palin to have opportunities to present Mr. McCain's positions, rather than spending time talking about her experience or playing defense.
While the debates between presidential nominees are traditionally the main events in the fall election season, the public interest in Ms. Palin has proved extraordinary, and a large audience is expected for her national debate debut.
Indeed, both the McCain and Obama campaigns have similar concerns about the vice-presidential matchup in St. Louis: that Ms. Palin, of Alaska, as a new player in national politics, or Mr. Biden, of Delaware, as a loquacious and gaffe-prone speaker, could commit a momentum-changing misstep in their debate.
The negotiations for the three 90-minute debates between the men at the top of the tickets were largely free of brinksmanship. Neither side threatened to pull out, and concerns about camera angles and stagecraft were minor.
Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the Democratic nominee for president, and Mr. McCain did not intercede personally to settle any disputes. They agreed to one substantive change to the format originally proposed by the debate commission, giving them two minutes apiece to make a statement at the beginning of each segment on a new topic.
Mr. Obama successfully sought to flip the proposed topics for the first and third debates, so foreign policy is now coming first and economic and other domestic issues come last. There is a second debate, in the format of a town hall meeting, in which the candidates will sit on director's chairs and take questions from the audience and Internet users on any topic.
The debate commission had proposed that the first debate be on economic issues and the third on foreign policy - in part, people involved in the process said, because the first debate is usually the most watched, and many voters rank the economy as their top concern.
Mr. Obama wanted foreign policy first to show viewers that he could provide depth, strength and intelligence on those issues, his advisers said, given that Mr. McCain consistently wins higher ratings in opinion polls as a potential commander in chief.
Mr. Obama wanted domestic issues to come last; advisers said that they believed even before the start of the financial crisis that the election was most likely to turn on the state of the economy and that he wanted the final televised exchange to focus on those concerns. He has argued that Mr. McCain would continue the economic policies of President Bush.
Mr. McCain also wanted foreign policy topics to come first in the debates, his aides said, in the hope of capitalizing on his positive reputation on national security issues across party lines.
Pact on Debates Will Let McCain and Obama Spar
He wanted limits on the original format for the first and third debates, which had been nine topics with nine minutes of free-flowing debate on each one. Mr. Obama went along, though his aides did insist that at least several minutes of open-ended debate occur in each block of questioning, because they believe he does well in that format.
Senator John McCain, at a speech in Wisconsin on Friday, will go to Mississippi this week for the first of three debates with Senator Barack Obama.
Now the candidates will be asked a question, each will give an answer of two minutes or less, and then they will mix it up for five additional minutes before moving on to the next question in the same format.
Obama aides also agreed to use lecterns at the first event, which Mr. McCain preferred; at the third debate, the two men will be seated at a round table, in the 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock positions, with the moderator at 6 o'clock.
McCain aides said that they were conscious of the fact that Mr. McCain has a prominent scar on one side of his face, and that they could not predict how prominent it would appear with the camera angles, lighting and make-up.
The debate formats were negotiated by Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, representing the McCain campaign, and Representative Rahm Emanuel, Democrat of Illinois, for the Obama camp. A handful of aides from both camps were also involved, hammering out issues between themselves and then holding conference calls with members of the commission to reach final agreements, people involved in the process said.
Mr. Obama plans to begin debate camp on Tuesday with a tight circle of advisers at a site in the Tampa Bay area of Florida, his aides say, with a prominent Democratic lawyer, Greg Craig, playing the part of Mr. McCain in mock debates.
The Obama campaign has been studying Mr. McCain's debate performances from the Republican primary as well as in his 2000 race for president. Each debate has been rated and scored, with briefing points and highlights sent to Mr. Obama.
Mr. Obama's advisers have been studying in particular Mr. McCain's temperament and mood and looking for potential flash points of anger.
Mr. McCain, his advisers say, has yet to spend much time watching the dozens of primary debate performances of Mr. Obama over the last two years. But they said that a small staff of aides had been reviewing them and that Mr. McCain would see some highlights next week.
McCain aides refused to say when his debate camp would be or where, or who was playing Mr. Obama or Mr. Biden. (Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm, Democrat of Michigan, is playing Ms. Palin for Mr. Biden's preparations.)
Mr. Obama plans to sequester himself and a few advisers at his debate camp. The attendance is limited to a small group of foreign policy advisers, each rotating in for separate sessions with Mr. Obama and Mr. Craig.
The choice of Florida, particularly the politically critical region near Tampa, was selected with a dual purpose in mind. While Mr. Obama will have few public events from Tuesday through Friday, aides said, his presence could draw considerable local news media attention in a state where he hopes to fiercely challenge Mr. McCain.
While the intense portion of debate training begins on Tuesday, Mr. Obama has been preparing for weeks, in part by drawing upon his experience debating Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York in the Democratic primaries. His aides have been studying those debate performances to address one of his biggest shortcomings: his ability to deliver a tight answer. Already, his campaign is trying to diminish expectations for Mr. Obama's performance.
"Despite the fact that we got the chance to do this a lot during the primaries, these debates are not by any stretch of the imagination his strong suit," said Robert Gibbs, a senior strategist to Mr. Obama. "He likes to talk about a problem, give some examples that addresses some solutions and oftentimes that doesn't fit into the moderator's allotted time."
The campaigns had no say over the choice of moderators - Jim Lehrer of PBS, Tom Brokaw of NBC and Bob Schieffer of CBS for the presidential debates, and Gwen Ifill of PBS for the vice-presidential debate.
"Everything matters and issues can always come up, such as the size of podiums - like for Carter and Ford in 1976 - to the timer lights if the candidate doesn't like them," said Tad Devine, a Democratic strategist who advised Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004. "There hasn't really been a ‘debate about the debates' this year, but that can change in a minute."
Mimi naendelea kuangalia hizi polls na kucheka. The important poll iko November, but since you were so busy checking the polls I thought you would like to know! Kwikwikwikwikwiiii!Here's a wrap-up of the four major national tracking polls for today, with all of them showing Barack Obama ahead by various margins:
Gallup: Obama 48%, McCain 44%, with a ±2% margin of error, essentially unchanged from yesterday's 49%-45% lead for Obama.
Rasmussen: Obama 48%, McCain 47%, with a ±2% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
Hotline/Diageo: Obama 47%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.2% margin of error. Yesterday, Obama had a smaller lead of only 45%-44%
Research 2000: Obama 49%, McCain 43%, with a ±3% margin of error. Yesterday, Obama was up 49%-42%.
Adding these polls together and weighting them by sample sizes, Obama is ahead by a margin of 48.0%-44.8%, not significantly changed from a lead yesterday of 48.2%-45.2%.
Nyaniii! Yaani umeamua kuungana na mwehu ndugu yake Jindal? Una kaaazi kwelikweli! Last week si ulikuwa unasema unaamini sana hizo polls ukasema Obama amekwisha kazi. Sasa unasemaje?
Mimi naendelea kuangalia hizi polls na kucheka. The important poll iko November, but since you were so busy checking the polls I thought you would like to know! Kwikwikwikwikwiiii!
Hey Raj, are you gonna chip in the Onyango Obama's (Obama's half brother) Compassion Fund? I'm planning on it....
Nyaniii! Yaani umeamua kuungana na mwehu ndugu yake Jindal? Una kaaazi kwelikweli! Last week si ulikuwa unasema unaamini sana hizo polls ukasema Obama amekwisha kazi. Sasa unasemaje?
Mimi naendelea kuangalia hizi polls na kucheka. The important poll iko November, but since you were so busy checking the polls I thought you would like to know! Kwikwikwikwikwiiii!