Tanzania would rather be in Southern Africa, it seems

[Luggy]

shut up ua rotten mouth...remember it was us who opened a door for u to join the Eac,wish we knew before,..

If you ask any Tanzanian what is the economical gain from SADC, they won't tell you because there is NON. SADC is a political organization while the EAC is an economic one, and as I know tanzania very well, they like to go to meetings just to get their per diems and thats it. When it comes to implementation, they always find excuses. SADC is a South Africa run organization and Tanzanian want to play second fiddle to the south african. there is a saying that when one tire is punctured you remove it and replace it with another one and move on.

 

[Adili]

As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.


When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on other East African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.

When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, for Tanzania's airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.

When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago, Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas from Tanzania's vast Songo Songo fields.

Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzania went ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.

The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar's attentions.

Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame's Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of "its" Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

Is your missrepresention of facts deliberate or just absence of factual information?

 

[Ulukolokwitanga]

many kenyans work illigally in tz.lets hunt them all n send them to their suffocating economy. Tanzania is for Tanzanians. Uzalendo mbele sasa.

Arrogance haitatufikisha watanzania popote, lazima tukubali kuwa something is not right somewhere in our government. Haiwezekani majirani wote watuone sisi wazishi. Hatuna uadui na Zambia, lakini hatuna urafiki pia, sijawahi kumsikia Satta anaongelea Tz na JK licha ya uzururaji anaenda ulaya na amerika lakini hapa jirani hagusi.

Wajerumani Ni largest economy in Europe lakini huji kuwasikia wakigombana na nchi kama Austria. Uzalendo sio kupeleka chokochoko kwa majirani bali mi kuishi vizuri na majirani na kutumia fursa zilizopo huko kupata maendeleo yetu.

 

[Hoshea]

nyie watu akili zenu bana, sijui zina nn, eti eac is an economic one sadc is political org, so what? tunachagua tunaotaka sisi si nyie kupe, akheri huku political tuna honest & trustworthy friends tulosaidia kuwakomboa, they know our worthness kuliko huko economic kwa wanafiki, wakenya wanauza sana hapa tz vitu vyao eti wanalalamika songosongo hatujawauzia wao tumewauzia ug, si yetu, na tumechagua kuuza huko, nyie vipi, mambo mengi sana wakenya wana gain from us yet wanalalamika na huyu mwandishi anaweka hadi uongo typically kenyans eti airport zilifungwa, uongo mtupu, hamna jambo la ukweli hata moja hapo aloandika mtoa mada, eti ndo majirani tunapaswa ungana nao.
la la la la la la la hapana aise sio sasa.
yani hii saga inavozidi kuwa nazidi elewa what kind of northern neighbours we've,
eac with tz God i pray forbid this

 

[Luggy]

to answer u shortly.....Tanzania is for Tanzanians,we are determined to stand alone,one day we gona lead u,we have land to get food out of it,we don`t sell food to greedy neighbors like u...why can`t u get food lazy friend Rwand and Uganda?, PROBABLY U ALL NEED US,BUT WE ARE IN LOVE WITH SADC,a place where boys shed bllod to libearate the whole region..we have a voice over there...........go to hell KENYA,RWANDA +UGANDA....ONDOKENI wapumbavu nyie

As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.


When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on other East African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.

When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, for Tanzania's airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.

When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago, Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas from Tanzania's vast Songo Songo fields.

Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzania went ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.

The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar's attentions.

Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame's Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of "its" Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

 

[Ungana]

As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.


When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on other East African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.

When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, for Tanzania’s airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.

When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago, Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas from Tanzania’s vast Songo Songo fields.

Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzania went ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.

The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar’s attentions.

Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame’s Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of “its” Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

Since light travels faster than sound,Mungi appears bright until you hear him speak

 

[timbilimu]

Nikiwa Mtanzania mwenye umri wa kuitwa mtu mzima ninapo soma posts za hapo juu natambua jambo moja kubwa,ujinga unazidi kuongezeka kwa kasi ktk nchi yetu!

Propaganda za kijinga kabisa zinajadiliwa hapa kama kwamba ni maneno ya ukweli. Tuna watu wa hovyo kabisa! Mfano mtu gani makini hajui kwamba Jomo Kenyata ilipo ungua mamia ya abiria hawaku letwa Tanzania kuendelea na safari zao?

Tuna watu wamejaa chuki za kipuuzi! Sadc tunafanya biashara gani kuliko EAC? Tuna ubavu wa kushindana na SA?! Leo asubuhi nimesikia Watanzania walioko SA wakiomba Madiba aendelee kuwa na afya njema,lasivyo wananchi mtaani wameisha waeleza akifariki watatimua wageni. Kwasasa wanasema wanamheshimu mzee Mandela!

Nimetembea nchi zote za EAC kuondoa Burundi. Hakuna nchi Watanzania tulikua tunaheshimiwa kama Rwanda. Watawala wajinga wameharibu mahusiano yetu!

 

[Zawadi Ngoda]

Kama Madikiteta hawa wawili (Wa Uganda na Rwanda) bado wapo madarakani, sahau juu ya EAC. Leo huyu jangili wa Rwanda anashindwa kuzungumza na jirani zake Congo na hata member mwenzio wa EAC (Tanzania) Sasa ni nini kinaweza kueleweka cha maendeleo.

Tz pelekeni nguvu zote kwa SADCC na achana na hii michezo ya kuigiza ya EAC. Matamanio na ulafi wa Museveni na Kagame ni balaa kwa EAC. Hawawezi kutubuluza buluza tu. Waendelee na hiyo EAC wenyewe bila TZ KAMA WANAFIKIRI ITAWAKOMBOA.

 

[Ndahani]

Mkuu Ndahani, I can agree with u Tz to pool out of EAC regional Economic and political integration, and focus on SADC, so what do you think Tz as a country will benefit from SADC? Ngoma iko hapo

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It goes back to the same principle that we cant give something that we don't have. For me the better way to compete with advantage is clean out our house and focus on putting things in good order. The market in Congo is three times the market we get from Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi. The peaceful Congo is economical and socially much better for us. Infact at these times where wars are waged based on what economic gain the pursuers would have, we better stick out with those that can give. That would require the change in our approach to important issues.

 

[timbilimu]

It goes back to the same principle that we cant give something that we don't have. For me the better way to compete with advantage is clean out our house and focus on putting things in good order. The market in Congo is three times the market we get from Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi. The peaceful Congo is economical and socially much better for us. Infact at these times where wars are waged based on what economic gain the pursuers would have, we better stick out with those that can give. That would require the change in our approach to important issues.

Mkuu hivi unadhani leo Waganda na Wanyarwanda wakiacha kuunga mkono wahasi mashariki ya DRC basi Congo imetengamaa? Unaijua kidogo historia ya Congo imejikuta vipi hapa ilipo?! Ama na wewe umetekwa na propaganda za akina JK?

Nikueleze ukweli mchungu hata kama leo hii DRC ingepata amani kama unavyo tamani,bado Wakenya,SA na mataifa mengine yange faidika kiuchumi na kibiashara kuliko sisi! Hatuna mipango ya kutoka hapa tulipo,tumekwama! Karibu kila kitu kilichopo DRC tunacho hapa,tumefaidika vipi? Acha kuota ndoto za mchana ndugu yangu!

 

[Ndahani]

Mkuu hivi unadhani leo Waganda na Wanyarwanda wakiacha kuunga mkono wahasi mashariki ya DRC basi Congo imetengamaa? Unaijua kidogo historia ya Congo imejikuta vipi hapa ilipo?! Ama na wewe umetekwa na propaganda za akina JK?

Nikueleze ukweli mchungu hata kama leo hii DRC ingepata amani kama unavyo tamani,bado Wakenya,SA na mataifa mengine yange faidika kiuchumi na kibiashara kuliko sisi! Hatuna mipango ya kutoka hapa tulipo,tumekwama! Karibu kila kitu kilichopo DRC tunacho hapa,tumefaidika vipi? Acha kuota ndoto za mchana ndugu yangu!

Ni hivi, kama wako waneamua kuchangia amani, tatizo lile lingekuwa dogo sana. Kagame anataka kuijenga Rwanda kwa mali za Congo?