Saudi Arabia: The middle east’s real apartheid state

[ILAN RAMON]

Mfalme Abdullah aliweka mabinti zake4 kizuizini karibu miaka 20 bila sababu al saud is a sign of ev

 

[kahtaan]

Mfalme Abdullah aliweka mabinti zake4 kizuizini karibu miaka 20 bila sababu al saud is a sign of ev

Binti anawekwa vipi kizuizini mkuu.
Hebu dadavua hapa tukusome.
Au Palace pia inaweza kuwa kizuizi!

Au unaleta ile story ya yule mama mpuuzi aliyekwenda kuomba hifadhi kwa Wazungu baada ya kupewa Talaka?

Unajua story kamili ya huyo mama? Au umebeba mazima galatian style.

 

[kahtaan]

KIKWAJUNI KAMA HUYAJUI HAYA UNGENYAMAZA. asilimia 999 ya wakazi wa zanzibar ni watu gani ? .

Rudi shule we mgalatia.
Ktk kanuni za hesabu hakuna kitu km asilimia 999.%
Nyambaff

 

[kahtaan]

KIKWAJUNI KAMA HUYAJUI HAYA UNGENYAMAZA. asilimia 999 ya wakazi wa zanzibar ni watu gani ? tanga,mtwara,lindi, tabora pia imo nliisahau tu . ni maeneo ambayo nimeishi. nayafaham sana na ndo mara ya kwanza mimi kuwafahamu mashoga hivi kwa macho kutoka mikoa hiyo na si hicyo tu mpaka kumsikia shoga akijinasibu kabisa. ni mikoa hiyo. Mombasa hukutaja. Iringa hakuna athari za kiarabu kama mikoa hiyo. shinyanga kuna sehemu na sehemunpia kama ilivyo Kigoma ukienda maeneo ya Ujiji n.k
nimetembea na kukaa asilimia 94 ya mikoa ya tanzania. kasoro mara na unguja nadhani. nimeona ninachozungumza. nakifahamu. nimezunguka huko kikazi na pia kifamilia. nafaham nazungumza nini. hivi sasa nafanya kazi kampuni ya kiarabu. najua watoto wa mwenye kampuni wanavyowafanya baadhi ya wafanya kazi wa kiume na kuwapa pesa nyingi sana. so sibahatishi. lakini nenda kinondoni na ilala. nimekulia ilala. nmeishi kinondoni mwka na nusu. ushoga mkubwa unafanyika huko. sisemi kuwa hakuna wanaojiita wakristo mashoga..sipend uongo. wapo lakini nachosema tofaut ya wazungu na waarabu ni kuwa wazungu wao wanaamini katika kujiweka wazi wakati waarabu wanaamini katika unafiki. ila tunajua ndio wanaoongoza kwa kuwaingilia kinyume na maumbile wanawake na pia wanaume. na hili naweza ku prove kwako.

Hawa pia wanaishi Mtwara na Zanzibar?

 

[ILAN RAMON]

Binti anawekwa vipi kizuizini mkuu.
Hebu dadavua hapa tukusome.
Au Palace pia inaweza kuwa kizuizi!

Au unaleta ile story ya yule mama mpuuzi aliyekwenda kuomba hifadhi kwa Wazungu baada ya kupewa Talaka?

Unajua story kamili ya huyo mama? Au umebeba mazima galatian style.

Mkuuu mpuuzi nadhani ni alieoa wake30 nje ya ruhusa ya kiislamu lakini vipe mmedanganywa kuwa Abdullah ni ukoo wa mtume mnadhani hakosei

 

[ILAN RAMON]

Rudi shule we mgalatia.
Ktk kanuni za hesabu hakuna kitu km asilimia 999.%
Nyambaff

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Don’t forget the late Saudi King’s ‘jailed’ princesses

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Ishaan Tharoor January 23, 2015
statementswere made by other Western leaders.

Christine Lagarde, the female head of the International Monetary Fund, evenhailed the monarch as "a strong advocate for women."

That last eulogy ought to furrow brows. After all, when it comes to gender rights, Saudi Arabia's absolute monarchy is one of the most heavily criticized regimes in the world. Its draconian religious laws place limitations on everything from the clothes women can wear to the means by which they travel outside their homes. Controversially, women are still banned from driving in the country.

Lagarde did qualify her comment, saying Abdullah was a reformer "in a very discreet way," credited with initiating a number of measures aimed at it giving women a bigger stake in the country's economic and political life. But the change is very gradual, stymied by traditionalists who still hold sway in the country's courts. Abdullah's reforms, writes one commentator, have "all the substance of a Potemkin village, a flimsy structure to impress foreign opinion."

Closer to home, moreover, there are a few women related to the late monarch who may object to the praise being heaped upon him. Abdullah, like other Saudi royals, had numerous wives — at least seven, and perhaps as many as 30. He had at least 15 daughters. Four of them, according to news reports, live under house arrest.

The plight of the Princesses Jawaher, Sahar, Hala, Maha attracted attention last spring, when details emerged of their supposedly dire condition living in captivity in Saudi royal compounds in the city of Jeddah. Their mother, Alanoud Al-Fayez, has lived in the United Kingdom for the past decade and a half. She was divorced by her husband multiple times, the final instance in 1985.

Fayez claims her daughters' supposed incarceration, which has gone on for some 13 years, was both a mark of Abdullah's vindictive streak and intolerance of his daughters' modern, independent upbringing. She says the four have been locked away for more than a decade, subject to abuse and deprivation.

'We just want our God-given [HASHTAG]#rights[/HASHTAG] & 4 all [HASHTAG]#women[/HASHTAG] in this country to enjoy these rights'Sahar [HASHTAG]#FreeThe4[/HASHTAG] End [HASHTAG]#VAW[/HASHTAG] #UNpic.twitter.com/iSPEc7JzBs

— Free The 4 Women (@Freethe4)January 21, 2015



Last year, various news stations managed to reach Sahar, 42, and Jawaher, 38, who live in a separate compound from Maha, 41, and Hala, 39. In an interview with RT last May, the pair described how they were running out of food and water.

 

[ILAN RAMON]

Binti anawekwa vipi kizuizini mkuu.
Hebu dadavua hapa tukusome.
Au Palace pia inaweza kuwa kizuizi!

Au unaleta ile story ya yule mama mpuuzi aliyekwenda kuomba hifadhi kwa Wazungu baada ya kupewa Talaka?

Unajua story kamili ya huyo mama? Au umebeba mazima galatian style.

another interview with an Arabic channel, the princesses described how they were being punished for championing women's rights and resisting the kingdom's strict rules mandating male guardianship over women.

Speaking to the New York Post last April, their mother claimed her daughters' continued detention was "about psychological warfare and breaking them down," and that her children "are wasting away."

There are some doubts about the extent to which the women are living in genuine captivity. When confronted with the daughters' claims, Saudi authorities have been tight-lipped, insisting that the situation "is a private matter." The women have not been formally charged with any crime.

Last June, in an email exchange with a Middle East affairs news site, Princess Sahar explained why she and her sister had been ostracized by the rest of the royal family:

We, along with our mother, have always been vocal all our lives about poverty, women’s rights and other causes that are dear to our hearts. We often discussed them with our father. It did not sit well with him and his sons Mitab and AbdelAziz and their entourage. We have been the targets ever since. We have been treated abysmally all our lives, but it got worse during the past 15 years. When Hala began to work as an intern at a hospital in Riyadh, she discovered political prisoners thrown in psychiatric wards, drugged and shamed to discredit them. She complained to her superiors and got reprimanded. She began to receive threatening messages if she didn’t back off. The situation deteriorated, and we discovered that she was also being drugged. She was kidnapped from the house, left in the desert, then thrown in Olaysha’s Women’s Jail, Riyadh. She soon became yet another victim of the system, as were the so-called patients (political prisoners) she was trying to help. Maha, Jawaher and I have all been drugged at some point... We have been told to lose all hope of ever having a normal life.

 

[GuDume]

Kahtan sasa hapo si unatumia common sense tu kujua kuwa ni typing error? Au mpaka nalo hilo unataka boko haram wakusaidie? Mambo mengine ni kujiongeza tu kizungu wala huhitaj nalo kutangaza fatwah. Au unataka kusema pia mwandishi amekuonea?maana nyie pro arabs huwa hamchelew kutangaza fatwah

 

[GuDume]

Ukiwa na undugu na mtume kumbe unaruhusiwa kuoa au kuwa kama yeye? Safi sana ndo maana mi napenda sana tamaduni za kiarab nami nataka niwe na utamaduni wao. Niwakamue sana....kama alivyokuwa mwanzilishi 40 wives na masuria/masulia.

Mkuuu mpuuzi nadhani ni alieoa wake30 nje ya ruhusa ya kiislamu lakini vipe mmedanganywa kuwa Abdullah ni ukoo wa mtume mnadhani hakosei

 

[Kikwajuni One]

Kahtan sasa hapo si unatumia common sense tu kujua kuwa ni typing error? Au mpaka nalo hilo unataka boko haram wakusaidie? Mambo mengine ni kujiongeza tu kizungu wala huhitaj nalo kutangaza fatwah. Au unataka kusema pia mwandishi amekuonea?maana nyie pro arabs huwa hamchelew kutangaza fatwah

Jaribu kuficha mapungufu yako ya kuelewa,ili usijulikane kama una mapungufu ya kutoelewa.

Ukiwa na undugu na mtume kumbe unaruhusiwa kuoa au kuwa kama yeye? Safi sana ndo maana mi napenda sana tamaduni za kiarab nami nataka niwe na utamaduni wao. Niwakamue sana....kama alivyokuwa mwanzilishi 40 wives na masuria/masulia.

 

[ILAN RAMON]

There is Devil's Horn in Mecca just like the Sauron Tower... 🙂 Who Attacked Paris? The attackers of Paris Attack that killed more than 150 people, either ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc are Wahhabi. They are taught hatred and violence by their Sheikh. You cannot just say ISIS do that or Al Qaeda do that. They will showed up as different names. Different groups. Just call them Wahhabi. That is who they really are. ISIS, Al Qaeda, Nusra in Syria, Boko Haram in Africa, Shabab in Somalia, Taliban in Afghanistan, Saudi Araba, they are all Wahhabi. They are the follower of Sheikh Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab’s teaching. He was born on 1701 in Najd, central of Saudi Arabia. Prophet Muhammad in a Bukhari Hadits mentioned that from Najd will appear Fitna, Turmoils, and the Devil’s Horn.

I love Mecca and Kaaba. But I don't like the Devil's Horns and the Hilton Hotel there. Prophet Muhammad had warned us about Devil's horns in Bukhari Hadits. Prophet also disliked very tall buildings. They are the sign of Dooms Day.

 

[kahtaan]

another interview with an Arabic channel, the princesses described how they were being punished for championing women's rights and resisting the kingdom's strict rules mandating male guardianship over women.

Speaking to the New York Post last April, their mother claimed her daughters' continued detention was "about psychological warfare and breaking them down," and that her children "are wasting away."

There are some doubts about the extent to which the women are living in genuine captivity. When confronted with the daughters' claims, Saudi authorities have been tight-lipped, insisting that the situation "is a private matter." The women have not been formally charged with any crime.

Last June, in an email exchange with a Middle East affairs news site, Princess Sahar explained why she and her sister had been ostracized by the rest of the royal family:

We, along with our mother, have always been vocal all our lives about poverty, women’s rights and other causes that are dear to our hearts. We often discussed them with our father. It did not sit well with him and his sons Mitab and AbdelAziz and their entourage. We have been the targets ever since. We have been treated abysmally all our lives, but it got worse during the past 15 years. When Hala began to work as an intern at a hospital in Riyadh, she discovered political prisoners thrown in psychiatric wards, drugged and shamed to discredit them. She complained to her superiors and got reprimanded. She began to receive threatening messages if she didn’t back off. The situation deteriorated, and we discovered that she was also being drugged. She was kidnapped from the house, left in the desert, then thrown in Olaysha’s Women’s Jail, Riyadh. She soon became yet another victim of the system, as were the so-called patients (political prisoners) she was trying to help. Maha, Jawaher and I have all been drugged at some point... We have been told to lose all hope of ever having a normal life.

Teh teh teh.

So when a lady complains about her former husband you take that as a conclusion to all the royals. That is very primitive buddy.

What was the last time a divorcee talked nice about her husband?

 

[kahtaan]

Mtoto mwenye nyege km wewe kudumu kwenye ndoa ni kazi kubwa mno.
Utabadili wanamme mpk ufe.

Sasa unataka Uonje wanamme 40 upate kipi kipya?
Mipini utakayo kutana na yao ni ile ile.
Saana utajaza matoto 20 na kila limoja lina baba yake. Nyie ndio mnaotusambazia Ebola.
Kambafff.
Kafe mbele .

 

[kahtaan]

Mkuuu mpuuzi nadhani ni alieoa wake30 nje ya ruhusa ya kiislamu lakini vipe mmedanganywa kuwa Abdullah ni ukoo wa mtume mnadhani hakosei

Aliyekwambia King wa Saudia ni ukoo wa Mtume ujue hana akili timamu.
Na hakuna King hatta mmoha aliwahi Kuoa wake 30 kwa WAKATI MMOJA.

Waislamu wanaruhusiwa Kutoa talaka kwa sababu maalum.
Sio km wagalatia na wahindu.

Wao hata ukimkuta mke yuko Uchi na jirani huwezi kumuacha.

 

[GuDume]

SASA KWA AKILI YAKO UNAONA HAO NI WAKRISTO? MAANA KWA UPEO WAKO MDOGO UKIONA IMEANDIKWA KANISA,BISHOP,PADRE NA WAHUSIKA NI JOHN NA FRANK BASI UNAJUA HAO WATAKUWA NI WAKRISTO. ukristo unasemaje juu ya ndoa za jinsia moja hapo nazungumzia ukristo wa kwenye biblia. BIBLIA INASEMA WAZI NA WAFILAJI HAO HAWATAURIDHI UFALME WA MUNGU. so hili si suala la discussion ....kanisa hata mimi naweza fungua,nikajiita askofu n.k nikaruhusu ndoa za wake wengi ili nipate waumini wengi, nikaruhusu za jinsia moja n.k

nlikwambia walichofanya wazungu ni kuweka wazi kitu ambacho waarabu hawawezi na itaonekana ni kosa but si kwamba hawafanyi. wanafanya sana sme ni kwa kificho maana ukikutwa unapigwa mawe hadi kufa. na wazungu kwa kudhani tu demokrasia wameliweka wazi hili kana kwamba ni binadamu mwenyewe ajiamulie nini anataka kwenye maisha yake.

Ngoja nikuoneshe kuwa wewe ni bwege kweli. NCHI TANO ZA KIISLAMU AMBAZO WAME LEGALIZE HOMOSEXUAL AU USHOGA.
5 Muslim Nations Where Gay is Legal

These are five Muslim countries where being gay is not a crime. What do they have in common? None of them were colonized by the British Empire. Many countries in the Global South, whether Muslim or otherwise, are generally using colonial laws that pre-date their local penal codes to criminalize romantic love between consenting same-sex couples. Whether in West Africa, or Southeast Asia, in the heart of Europe or the Middle East, these countries remind us that the conversation on gay rights is not as clean cut as some might have imagined it to be.

1. MALI

Gays in this African nation might face local homophobia, but the law is on their side. In 2010, a Malian volunteer for the Peace Corps wrote that she looked up the laws dealing with sexuality, and saw that Article 179 of the Malian penal code did not specify heterosexual or homosexual sexual activities, but instead decried public indecency. She said that she was relieved because most “countries in Africa, 38 to be exact, have laws against homosexuality and some with the death penalty.”

2. JORDAN

Jordan was under the Ottoman Empire, where homosexuality was decriminalized 75 years earlier, but between 1922 and 1945 the country was a subject mandated by the League of Nations. However, in 1951 the new nation made homosexuality legal. “Jordan is considered an open minded country, and when coming to cities, the tolerance is even higher,” said the editor of My.Kali, a gay magazine that is based in the capital, talking to the Italian-based e-Zine Il Grande Colibri. “And considering the fact that it’s an Islamic country, the morality of the culture could be a huge pressure to many people to remain discreet, but it never stopped many of my friends and other LGBTQ people to come out and show who they are,” he added.

3. INDONESIA

In Indonesia being gay has been legal since, well, forever. No, really, the country never had any legal prohibitions against homosexuality, at least since its founding as a nation. Further, the country has the longest running LGBT organizations in Asia. Despite having the largest Muslim population, Indonesia has remained a great example of the importance of the separation of religion and state. On the other hand, Singapore (non-Muslim) and Malaysia (Muslim), who are neighbors to Indonesia, have laws that make it illegal to be gay. The later two have both been colonized by the British Empire.

4. TURKEY

In 1858, the Ottoman Caliph decriminalized homosexuality. This affected many countries in three continents. When Turkey became a solo nation in 1920, it didn’t see a need to change this law. Omer Akpinar, who is with KAOS LG, which is one of the largest LGBT organizations in Turkey, told Mashable that their organization was never censored. Jack Scott, a British writer who moved to Turkey with his partner and who is the author of Perking the Pansies: Jack and Liam Move to Turkey, said his “obvious union with Liam has never attracted bad publicity from any Turk,” talking to the real estate company Quest Turkey.

5. ALBANIA

Being gay has been legal in Albania since 1995. This pre-dominantly Muslim nation has been in the forefront of gay rights in the Balkans. In 2013, ILGA Europe said that the country was the friendliest nation to the gays in the area, as it has a welcoming government and an anti-discrimination law. Kristi Pinderi, who is with the LGBT organization Pink Embassy, says that the anti-discrimination law is “important because in theory a teacher, for example, who is transgender, and decides to go and teach wearing a dress, I can’t imagine what the reaction would be, but the law protects that need, if there is a need like that,” talking to the organization International Day Against Homophobia.

Other countries with a large Muslim population and where homosexuality is legal include Abkhazia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burkina Faso, Chad, Djibouti, Guinea-Bissau, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Niger, Northern Cyprus, Palestine, and Tajikistan.

All of the above mentioned countries, like the entire world, have varies challenges for LGBT people. However, because the law is on their side, living in these countries create an atmosphere where one can imagine a fight, a possibility of freedom.

 

[GuDume]

unaonekana ni maamuma sana maana kwanza sijui wagalatia unawazungumzia ni akina nani maana unaonekana unasikia sikia tu kwenye mihadhara ila hujui hata unachozungumza. UKRISTO UNARUHUSU KUMWACHA MKE KWA UZINZ NA SI KUWA WEWE UWE MALAYA UNATAMAA BASI UWE UNAOA UNAACHA, UNAOA UNAACHA KAMA MUHAMAD ALIVYO FANYA ..... Angalia chini hizo picha sasa tuendelee na mjadala na kuna nyingine nimeiweka reserve ili ukizidi kunichokoza nikuwekee sasa utangaze fatwa ambayo itakufata wewe mwenyewe....... usione watu tumenyamaza tunayajua mengi ila hatupend mizozo isiyo na sababu.
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 143
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet said to Abu Talha, "Choose one of your boy servants to serve me in my expedition to Khaibar." So, Abu Talha took me letting me ride behind him while I was a boy nearing the age of puberty. I used to serve Allah's Apostle when he stopped to rest. I heard him saying repeatedly, "O Allah! I seek refuge with You from distress and sorrow, from helplessness and laziness, from miserliness and cowardice, from being heavily in debt and from being overcome by men."
Hadith Number 16245, Volume Title: "The Sayings of the Syrians," Chapter Title: "Hadith of Mu’awiya Ibn Abu Sufyan": "I saw the prophet – pbuh – sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)

She also said, "On a later day we requested a wet nurse for him (Ali) but he refused her breast so we called for Muhammad – pbuh – WHO PLACED HIS TONGUE IN ALI’S MOUTH and he fell asleep. This is the way it was as Allah willed it."

 

[ILAN RAMON]

Teh teh teh.

So when a lady complains about her former husband you take that as a conclusion to all the royals. That is very primitive buddy.

What was the last time a divorcee talked nice about her husband?

No body complains about the divorce!!it's about the her detained princesses!!buddy Why would the girls be detained without trials ??if the were criminals ?

 

[kahtaan]

No body complains about the divorce!!it's about the her detained princesses!!buddy Why would the girls be detained without trials ??if the were criminals ?

I think we have lingua problem here.
Teh teh teh.
Lets stick to bantu shall we? Cause you might ended up swearing unintentionally.
You didn't get any of my points did ya!
Who mentioned about divorce here!

Naaandika kwa kiswahili sasa labda tutakwenda sambamba.

Nimekuuliza toka lini mwanamke Aliyepewa talaka akamuongelea.mtalaka wake kwa uzuri?
Na toka lini watoto wakiwa na mama aliyetalikiwa wasema Mama ndio mbaya na baba muungwana?

Hao watoto wa kike kusema Wamefungiwa wao walitaka waachiwe watembee ovyo wakapigwe mimba huko nje wamletee Mfalme mkubwa km huyu KASHFA?

Huyo mama pashkuna tu hana lolote.

Kuna msemo unasema "actions talk louder than words " sijui km ufahamu nina maana gani hapo.

Check that women's body language on her interview,
First thing first that bitch had a trousers on and her hair style was like a man.
Tell me this. What was the last time you saw kings Wife looks like a man?

Toka lini Mke wa mfalme wa Saudia akavaa suruali na akate nywele ka dume bila Headscarf?

Hii tu peke yake inakuonyesha Upashkuna wa huyu mama na hao watoto wake.
Acha kumpakazia mtu maovu tu kwasababu Watoto wake au mkewe kamuongelea Vibaya.
Tazama vitu Nje ya Box.

Hata Yesu alisingiziwa Uchawi kumbe alikuwa anaponya kwa Uwezo wa MUNGU.

 

[ILAN RAMON]

Um

Aliyekwambia King wa Saudia ni ukoo wa Mtume ujue hana akili timamu.
Na hakuna King hatta mmoha aliwahi Kuoa wake 30 kwa WAKATI MMOJA.

Waislamu wanaruhusiwa Kutoa talaka kwa sababu maalum.
Sio km wagalatia na wahindu.

Wao hata ukimkuta mke yuko Uchi na jirani huwezi kumuacha.

Umalaya unawasumbua nyie Abdullah kaoa na kuacha wake30 ina maana wote hawafai? Wasaudi hawana tofauti na madume ya wanyama

 

[ILAN RAMON]

I think we have lingua problem here.
Teh teh teh.
Lets stick to bantu shall we? Cause you might ended up swearing unintentionally.
You didn't get any of my points did ya!
Who mentioned about divorce here!

Naaandika kwa kiswahili sasa labda tutakwenda sambamba.

Nimekuuliza toka lini mwanamke Aliyepewa talaka akamuongelea.mtalaka wake kwa uzuri?
Na toka lini watoto wakiwa na mama aliyetalikiwa wasema Mama ndio mbaya na baba muungwana?

Hao watoto wa kike kusema Wamefungiwa wao walitaka waachiwe watembee ovyo wakapigwe mimba huko nje wamletee Mfalme mkubwa km huyu KASHFA?

Huyo mama pashkuna tu hana lolote.

Kuna msemo unasema "actions talk louder than words " sijui km ufahamu nina maana gani hapo.

Check that women's body language on her interview,
First thing first that bitch had a trousers on and her hair style was like a man.
Tell me this. What was the last time you saw kings Wife looks like a man?

Toka lini Mke wa mfalme wa Saudia akavaa suruali na akate nywele ka dume bila Headscarf?

Hii tu peke yake inakuonyesha Upashkuna wa huyu mama na hao watoto wake.
Acha kumpakazia mtu maovu tu kwasababu Watoto wake au mkewe kamuongelea Vibaya.
Tazama vitu Nje ya Box.

Hata Yesu alisingiziwa Uchawi kumbe alikuwa anaponya kwa Uwezo wa MUNGU.

Alieongelea divorce ni wewe
2 kumbe mke /hawara wa al saud haruhusiwi kuongea!!
3 mke wa al saud haruhusiwi kuvaa trouser kUmbe japo sijaona alivaa lini kabla ya kukimbilia uk
After all alimuoa/alimbaka akiwa na miaka15
Leave it or swallow it the house of saud is rotten and cursed !!!!