Rwanda's Paul Kagame warned he may be charged with aiding war crimes

[ANKOJEI]

these guys u know are playing their games, at this point believe me they have reached good terms with Kabila Josee in such a way that Kagame is Useless to them. USA has no permanent friend but permanent Objectives.

 

[babukijana]

[h=1](Reuters) -

The Netherlands has suspended 5 million euros ($6.15 million) in aid to Rwanda over its reported support for rebels in Congo, a spokeswoman said on Thursday, hours after Kigali said a similar move by the United States was regrettable and would be proved wrong.

The Dutch reaction to a report from United Nations experts saying Kigali was backing insurgents in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo follows Washington's $200,000 cut in military aid at the weekend.
A spokeswoman for the Dutch foreign ministry said the suspended aid was to have been used for improving Rwanda's judicial system and that support to non-governmental organizations would continue.
The Dutch government would discuss future aid to Rwanda with other European Union governments and resumption would require an immediate end to Rwandan support for rebels in Congo, she said.
Kigali did not immediately respond to the Dutch move but Rwanda has regularly denied having any link to eastern Congolese rebels and said earlier on Thursday that the U.S. move had been "regrettable" and based on a flawed report.
"It would have been better for the U.S. or any other of our partners to actually take a decision based on clear evidence, not on allegations," Foreign Minister Louise Mushikiwabo said.
The U.S. cut was seen as a significant shift in policy because Washington has stood by Rwanda in the past despite the tiny nation's long history of involvement in wars in its vast, unstable neighbor since a 1994 genocide.
Asked if the military aid cut had damaged relations with the United States, Mushikiwabo said: "I don't think so."
Clashes between the Congolese army and M23 rebels have forced thousands of people to flee their homes in the last 48 hours, adding to some 260,000 people already displaced since April.
Mushikiwabo also brushed aside a report in Britain's Guardian newspaper that a U.S. official had warned Rwanda's leaders they could face prosecution at the International Criminal Court for arming groups responsible for atrocities in the Congo.
"Let's just take the wildest guess and say that the U.S. government actually does believe that (the leaders might be charged). They wouldn't announce it through a journalist. That's not how the U.S. government functions," she said.
"There is no truth to that. Not only is there no truth to that but it also shows how people are just going wild with this whole Congo thing."
UNEASY NEIGHBOURS
The U.N. experts accused high-ranking Rwandan officials of backing the Congolese rebels with arms, ammunition and supplies but Mushikiwabo said Rwanda had no reason to support an uprising in a neighboring country.
Rwandan officials had met the authors of the U.N. report in Kigali to give their side of the story, she said. The report's final version is due to be released around November.
"We went through each one of them carefully, every single allegation, and gave our own rebuttal ... I think when the report becomes final in November it should be very clear that this interim report was just a compilation of allegations, a lot of fabrications," she said.
"What does a photo of a uniform prove? I can get a uniform sewn here in Kigali any time and put it in a report. So what I think is that this report is very superficially plausible but people really need to look at it."
The M23 rebellion takes its name from a 2009 peace accord the rebels say was violated by Kinshasa.
It has been swelled by hundreds of defectors from the Congolese army who walked into the bush in support of fugitive Congolese General Bosco Ntaganda, wanted by the ICC on war crimes charges.
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[Bukyanagandi]

Why warn him? Mbona kina Al Bashir hawakupewa warning? Is there a single nation which has committed serious atrocities and crimes against humanity than the US in this world? Kagame alitakiwa awe amekamatwa siku nyingi kwa kusaidia wauaji kama Nkunda na Ntaganda, lakini kwa undumilakuwili wa US ataendelea kudunda.

Siyo Nkunda na Ntaganda tu, hata kutunguliwa kwa ndege ya Rwanda na majeshi ya Kagame hivyo kusababisha vifo vya ma Rais wawali kwa mpigo lilikuwa jambo baya SANA - kisa hiki kinapaswa kuwa-revisited na kujuwa nani alitoa amri ya mahuaji hayo - majenerali wa jeshi la Kagame waliokimbia nchi yao wanajuwa nani anahusika katika ukatili huo.

International community huwa inafumbia sana macho kifo cha Jenerali Abyalimana na Rais wa Burundi as if walikuwa ni kuku na sio binadamu, wanajifanya hawajuhi kwamba mauaji ya Watusi kwa halahiki kiini cha kilitoka na kuhuwawa kwa Jenerali Abyalimana. Kagame akiendelea kubaki madarakani nchi za Africa ya KATI haziwezi kuwa na amani hata kidogo - anacho fanya ni kuhadaa dunia kwamba nchi ya CONGO ni kama haina Serikali vile au Raisi Kabira Jr ni dhaifu - uongo mtupu! We mwangalie wanapo mbana kwenye mahojiano ya Television za kigeni kuhusu kuingilia kwake mambo ya ndani ya nchi ya demokrasia ya Congo- unaonekana kwenye body language yake yuko very jumpy kweli kweli-the question is-WHY?

Mimi sina tatizo naye binafsi nisicho taka ni hizi vurugu zake za kupanga hili nchi jirani isitawalike kwa manufaa yake na wanyamlenge wenzake, hasifanye dunia haijuhi mbinu zake hizo za kutaka kumega kipande cha nchi jirani, asije akajidanganya kwamba anaweza kufanikiwa katika hilo (anaweza ku-fool some of the people....), hasipo kuwa makini katika matendo yake atajikuta anakuwa mkimbizi kwa mara ya pili katika nchi ya Uganda, mara hii itakuwa ndio moja kwa moja.

 

[FJM]

Mimi sina tatizo naye binafsi nisicho taka ni hizi vurugu zake za kupanga hili nchi jirani isitawalike kwa manufaa yake na wanyamlenge wenzake, hasifanye dunia haijuhi mbinu zake hizo za kutaka kumega kipande cha nchi jirani, asije akajidanganya kwamba anaweza kufanikiwa katika hilo (anaweza ku-fool some of the people....), hasipo kuwa makini katika matendo yake atajikuta anakuwa mkimbizi kwa mara ya pili katika nchi ya Uganda, mara hii itakuwa ndio moja kwa moja.

Tofauti na vurugu nyingi Africa ambazo huwa na mkono wa nchi za magharibi, matatizo ya DRC yana mkorogo mbaya sana toka kwa nchi za Africa. Kagame amefanya mambo mengi mazuri kwa nchi yake ya Rwanda, lakini there is a very dark side ya huyu kiongozi. Pamoja na kujawa na unafiki, nchi za Magharibi ziko sahihi kwenye hili la kuchukua hatua ili walau watu wa Kivu wapumue. Wameteseka sana.

 

[Taz]

Tofauti na vurugu nyingi Africa ambazo huwa na mkono wa nchi za magharibi, matatizo ya DRC yana mkorogo mbaya sana toka kwa nchi za Africa. Kagame amefanya mambo mengi mazuri kwa nchi yake ya Rwanda, lakini there is a very dark side ya huyu kiongozi. Pamoja na kujawa na unafiki, nchi za Magharibi ziko sahihi kwenye hili la kuchukua hatua ili walau watu wa Kivu wapumue. Wameteseka sana.

Nchini kwake mwenyewe amefanya mazuri na mabayal. Hivi kwanini watu hawasemi the terrible terror Rwandese live in when it comes to freedom of speech? umeona wapi nchi haina upinzani? nchi haina "next generation of leaders"?
Isitoshi, all private contractors in charge of nhational reconstrucion belong to his wife and sibblings or they have shares in it: Ufisadi! Ujenzi wa arabara, they have shares in it. kiwanda cha makaratasi (baada ya kukataza plastic bags kiwanda kimija tu kilipewa ukiritimba), he has shares in it. matofari, mbegu za n'gombe, alol have one firm with monopoly, na familia yake haikosi shares. kweli wanyarwanda wamaona hali yao ikibadilika ila pia kuna ufisadi, kuna human right abuse na the entire system is not sustainable. alijenga juu ya mmchanga, akitoka kila kitu chini!

 

[FJM]

Nchini kwake mwenyewe amefanya mazuri na mabayal. Hivi kwanini watu hawasemi the terrible terror Rwandese live in when it comes to freedom of speech? umeona wapi nchi haina upinzani? nchi haina "next generation of leaders"?
Isitoshi, all private contractors in charge of nhational reconstrucion belong to his wife and sibblings or they have shares in it: Ufisadi! Ujenzi wa arabara, they have shares in it. kiwanda cha makaratasi (baada ya kukataza plastic bags kiwanda kimija tu kilipewa ukiritimba), he has shares in it. matofari, mbegu za n'gombe, alol have one firm with monopoly, na familia yake haikosi shares. kweli wanyarwanda wamaona hali yao ikibadilika ila pia kuna ufisadi, kuna human right abuse na the entire system is not sustainable. alijenga juu ya mmchanga, akitoka kila kitu chini!

Nakubaliana na wewe. Amefanya mambo mengi mazuri na nchi imepiga hatua. Lakini kama ulivyosema amejenga juu ya mchanga. Kuna strong odour of uncertainty when it comes to post-Kagame question. And most worringly, section ya jamii inatembea na nyongo kali ambayo inaweza kutemwa kwa gharama kubwa!

 

[Taz]

Nakubaliana na wewe. Amefanya mambo mengi mazuri na nchi imepiga hatua. Lakini kama ulivyosema amejenga juu ya mchanga. Kuna strong odour of uncertainty when it comes to post-Kagame question. And most worringly, section ya jamii inatembea na nyongo kali ambayo inaweza kutemwa kwa gharama kubwa!

Mind you ameunda mahakama ya Gacaca to deal with the "tutsi genocide" ila halina ruhusa ya kudeal na Hutu mass massacre. hadi sasa haijaitwa genocide despite the fact that the number of hutu who died during the war is almost the same, and the number of hutu who were killed in the DRC makes it double. Unadhani wahutu wanalichukuliaje hili? kweli wanashukuru kwa kua nchi imeendelea kiuchumi, umaskini umepungua na Rwanda imepata sifa nzuri kimataifa ila vitu vidogo vidogo kama hivi vinaziwia makovu kupona. Kumbuka FDLR bado wapo next door na wanasubiri the first sign of defaillance kurudi. nani atawaziwia? Congo? They can come back anytime, they just fear for their legitimacy ila wakipata support from inside ile nchi inarudi vitani. Ndio maana the Rwandan government has resisted their repatriation by all means.

 

[Democracy999]

Touch Kagame and is hell in Congo and beyond

 

[aminiusiamini]

Am Tanzanian. You guys can talk all you want. But i think with such fragile social strata especially one still living in tribal issue, kagame is the only idea for survival.
Yes, its true everyone has own wrong sides,but that doesn't make whole us.
Those who are saying he is building his tiny country over the senf i think that's non sense.

 

[Gama]

Mind you ameunda mahakama ya Gacaca to deal with the "tutsi genocide" ila halina ruhusa ya kudeal na Hutu mass massacre. hadi sasa haijaitwa genocide despite the fact that the number of hutu who died during the war is almost the same, and the number of hutu who were killed in the DRC makes it double. Unadhani wahutu wanalichukuliaje hili? kweli wanashukuru kwa kua nchi imeendelea kiuchumi, umaskini umepungua na Rwanda imepata sifa nzuri kimataifa ila vitu vidogo vidogo kama hivi vinaziwia makovu kupona. Kumbuka FDLR bado wapo next door na wanasubiri the first sign of defaillance kurudi. nani atawaziwia? Congo? They can come back anytime, they just fear for their legitimacy ila wakipata support from inside ile nchi inarudi vitani. Ndio maana the Rwandan government has resisted their repatriation by all means.

umezungumza mengi ya ukweli, but hili kupunguza umaskini si la kweli, international media zinasema Rwanda ni moja ya nchi zenye urahisi kwa wajasiliamali kukuza mitaji, yes, but ni mahali pagumu mno kwa maskini kuanzisha biashara so asiyenacho ataendelea kutokuwa nacho. Huenda ikawa sababu ya wanyarwanda wengi kukimbia nchi yao.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Tofauti na vurugu nyingi Africa ambazo huwa na mkono wa nchi za magharibi, matatizo ya DRC yana mkorogo mbaya sana toka kwa nchi za Africa. Kagame amefanya mambo mengi mazuri kwa nchi yake ya Rwanda, lakini there is a very dark side ya huyu kiongozi. Pamoja na kujawa na unafiki, nchi za Magharibi ziko sahihi kwenye hili la kuchukua hatua ili walau watu wa Kivu wapumue. Wameteseka sana.

Well Said,well done mkuu - watu wa KIVU wameteseka sana na adventure za Serikali ya Rwanda abayo huwa haitaki kukosolewa! Kuna habari za kuaminika kwamba wakimbizi wa kihutu/watwa walio kimbilia DRC (Kivu) walikuwa wanakusanywa kwenye vikundi wanadangwanya kwamba wanakwenda sehemu nyingine salama, kumbe wanakwenda kuwa-machine gunned emass, alafu wanazikwa kwenye mass graves na kufukiwa na grader - majeshi ya RWANDA yana-emulate ukatili wa SS squad ya third Reich (Nazi Germany) yaliyo wahi kutokea wakati wa vita vya pili vya DUNIA.

Mimi nilikuwa nashangaa sana kuona wahutu wanao tafutwa kila pembe ya dunia kuhusu mauaji ya halahiki wengi wao ni wasomi! Hivi kweli wasomi hao ndio walikuwa architect wa mauaji???? au na hizo ni mbinu za Serikali ya Rwanda za kuhakikisha Wahutu wasomi wanakuwa-contained au liquidated ili kabila hilo lisiwe na wasomi weledi wa kutetea haki zao, wanakuwa na mawazo finyu ya kufikili WATUTSI wanaweza kuendelea kutawala majority (Wahutu/watwa) forever!! Jifunzeni kilicho tokea Africa KUSINI.

Nchi za magharibi zinakumbuka kujifunika shuka asubuhi! Mara ngapi zimeonywa na mashirika ya UN na NGO kuhusu agenda za siri za Serikali ya RWANDA kuhusu DRC? Serikali ya RWANDA isitumie kisingizio cha genocide ku-commit a MEGA-GENOCIDE - dunia imechoswa na a trigger happy REGIMES.

 

[Kabaridi]

Hakuna lolote Kagame ametenda na ni njia mojawepo ya majeshi ya NATO kutekeleza regime change kigali. Tatizo kubwa AM ni DRC na kabila wengi wenu mutapinga lakini hapo ndipo kuna tatizo. lakini mataifa ya afrika mashariki kwa umaskini na kutaka misaada wataigiza na mababu wao wa kikoloni juu ya Rwanda. Rwanda wametekeleza kuijenga kigali huku wakituhumiwa kuporomosha DRC na kivu. Haya yanatendeka sudan kusini, somalia CAR na hata ethiopia. Tuangalie kinachoendelea syria na utapata picha kamili.

Pesa hamnazo;

Hivi karibuni kulikuwa na suala la ntaganda la laurent nkunda kama renegade generals wa kikosi cha CDNP/FDLR. ni vipi salamu kuhusu Bosco ntaganda kupotea kutoka airwaves. DRC na ICC/hague tayari wanafahamu alipo ntaganda bosco ila tu ni uigizaji. UPDF wanajua alipo KONY CAR na kupoteza muda na saa kutumia vyombo vya habari kupoteza.

lawama ielekezwe kigali;

Wakati huu wote kagame na kundi lake walitaka urafiki na wamarekani hasa democrats na sio conservatives/congress kutaka misaada ya kuboresha miundo misingi yao kama viwanja vya ndege na miundo misingi. Imewagharimu na kwa sasa itabidi IGAD/EAC kuingilia kati. lakini dili ya ya kibiashara imetumbukia nyongo. Watu walipoona Kenya ikisusia hawa marekani iwe katika dili za AGOA au misaada ya kijeshi na kuelekea mashariki/china, watu waliona jambo pumbavu. Katika hali yeyote ile iwe ni vema kuwa huru kutekeleza mambo. na ajabu baada ya mzungu kuondoka afrika Sudan kusini wanajihusisha na usambaratisha amani nchini mwao badala ya kujenga nchi. Ndio tatizo somalia itakuta mbele yake.

 

[Father of All]

Jamani mbona wanangu wengine wanaanza kuongea lugha za ajabu ajabu bila kujua kuwa JF ni si forum ya kikabila? Kagame ameanza ku-goof na kupanic baada ya janja yake kugundulika. Bahati mbaya sana watawala wetu huwa hawana ubongo wa kujifunza. Angejua kuwa hata Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Hosni Mubarak, Idd Amin, Joseph Desire Mobutu na wengine walitengenezwa na Marekani na kuwateketeza au kuwatelekeza baada ya kuwa wamefanikiwa malengo yao. Mfano wa karibu ni bazazi Charles Taylor na Manuel Antonio Noriega wanaoozea magerezani baada ya kugeukwa na mabwana zao. Kagame alianzisha Genocide akapata madaraka akasahau kuwa ile damu itamuandama. Sasa kumekucha anaanza kulalamika. Angejua wamarekani wana maslahi ya kudumu lakini rafiki au nyumba ndogo ya kudumu asingewaamini. Hata hivyo angefanya nini kukwepa kunyea debe baada ya genocide? Nenda Kagame ukale ugali na Taylor, Laurent Gbagbo na maimla wenzako.

 

[RealMan]

(Reuters) -

The Netherlands has suspended 5 million euros ($6.15 million) in aid to Rwanda over its reported support for rebels in Congo, a spokeswoman said on Thursday, hours after Kigali said a similar move by the United States was regrettable and would be proved wrong.

The Dutch reaction to a report from United Nations experts saying Kigali was backing insurgents in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo follows Washington's $200,000 cut in military aid at the weekend.........
crimes charges.

Ingawa topic ni tuhuma kumwelekea Kagame, mie nimetazama kitu tofauti..

Kuna misaada mingine ni kudhalilishana tu:

Uholanzi kelele nyingi kumbe msaada ni wa dola milioni 6 lakini mikwara kibao kwa mwenye nyumba.
What is $ 6m anyway?? Kwa bei ya Magufuli hazitoshi hata kujenga 10km za lami...Kule usukumani kwa kina Chenge zinaitwa vijisenti...

Marekani na ubani wao wa $200,000....sawa na rushwa aliyoikataa Rutabanzibwa akiwa katibu mkuu wizara ya Nishati..Eti military aid au ni gear ya kupenetrate majeshi yetu, misaada ya kishenzi aliyoikataa Gen. Waitara kutoka kwa wamarekani.

Ukitazama hii ni misaada Rwanda iliomba kwa haya mataifa vinginevyo wasingekuwa na jeuri ya kutoa vitisho sasa hivi... Sasa kama Kagame ambaye tumekuwa tunamsifia hapa kwamba ni jembe la ukweli au masikini jeuri huyu wa kwetu (safari 300+..) sitoshangaa kusikia ameenda kuomba msaada dola 10,000 (elfu kumi tu) ili kuandaa jeshi dhidi ya uvamizi wa Malawi... Dola 10,000 hazitoshi hata perdiem ya David Jairo akiwa bungeni, wakati Kighoma Malima $4,000 ni za matumizi Morogoro.

Inaudhi sana....

 

[MALCOM LUMUMBA]

Jamani mbona wanangu wengine wanaanza kuongea lugha za ajabu ajabu bila kujua kuwa JF ni si forum ya kikabila? Kagame ameanza ku-goof na kupanic baada ya janja yake kugundulika. Bahati mbaya sana watawala wetu huwa hawana ubongo wa kujifunza. Angejua kuwa hata Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Hosni Mubarak, Idd Amin, Joseph Desire Mobutu na wengine walitengenezwa na Marekani na kuwateketeza au kuwatelekeza baada ya kuwa wamefanikiwa malengo yao. Mfano wa karibu ni bazazi Charles Taylor na Manuel Antonio Noriega wanaoozea magerezani baada ya kugeukwa na mabwana zao. Kagame alianzisha Genocide akapata madaraka akasahau kuwa ile damu itamuandama. Sasa kumekucha anaanza kulalamika. Angejua wamarekani wana maslahi ya kudumu lakini rafiki au nyumba ndogo ya kudumu asingewaamini. Hata hivyo angefanya nini kukwepa kunyea debe baada ya genocide? Nenda Kagame ukale ugali na Taylor, Laurent Gbagbo na maimla wenzako.

Mkubwa kweli kabisa because the guy na wenzake hawatamani tu CONGO ila hata nchi kama Tanzania ambayo inautajiri mkubwa ndo maana hata kwenye EAC wanapush sisi tu-sign nao mikataba ya ardhi,so if the VIGILANTE ANARCHY LOVER is done with CONGO and gets to rebuild his army interms of technological advancement,man power,equipment and expenditure the RICHEST COUNTRY in Central and Eastern Africa will be the next and which is the richest state in Central and Eastern?its simply Tanzania,leo tumezungukwa na maadui wengi tu ila hatujui na kwa bahati mbaya kagame hawezi kuja direct hapa kwetu kwasababu kuna viongozi wana tabia kama zake,maybe even worse we all know what our government is capable of doing to its enemies,nirudi kwenye maada KAGAME IS DANGEROUS THOU PEOPLE SAY HE'S COURAGEOUS,I DON'T THINK THAT'S COURAGE!IT'S BRUTALITY BECAUSE COURAGE PRESERVES HUMAN DIGNITY AND NOT ELSE!I JUST HOPE THE GUY ROTS IN HELL.

 

[nngu007]

Protesters demonstrate against Rwandan leader Paul Kagame as the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Perth on October 28, 2011. Mr Kagame's opponents have filed a request with the ICC to prosecute him for war crimes following his alleged support of M23 rebels in eastern DR Congo. FILE | AFP


By AFPPosted Saturday, August 18 2012 at 11:34

• UN Congo report: Rwanda fights back

Opponents of Rwanda's long-time President Paul Kagame asked the International Criminal Court Friday to pursue him over war crimes committed in the Democratic Republic of Congo this year.

A spokeswoman for the ICC prosecutor's office confirmed it had received a request to prosecute Mr Kagame but stressed the court handled "hundreds" of similar communications a year with equal treatment.

In June UN experts in a report accused President Kagame of supporting with arms and ammunition rebels of the March 23 (M23) movement, which is fighting government troops in the DR Congo.

Kigali has denied the charge.

M23 has been fighting the Congolese army since April after a mutiny was spurred by Tutsi army general Bosco Ntaganda, nicknamed "The Terminator", against whom the ICC issued a fresh arrest warrant last month.



"We are asking the prosecutor to indict Paul Kagame," said Mr Nkiko Nsengimana, a coordinator of Rwanda's United Democratic Forces (FDU) party.

The FDU is the party of opposition leader Victoire Ingabire and is not recognised by Kigali.

Close to 100 protesters gathered outside the ICC's heavily-fortified building in The Hague where they chanted slogans such as "Kagame, assassin!" and "Kagame under arrest".

"The M23 is simply a Rwandan army," Mr Nsengimana added, calling President Kagame "its supreme leader".

 

[nngu007]

The Days of Smiling Dictator are they Over yet?

 

[Kiyoya]

Some people deserve to live all alone!What happened in Rwanda back 2004 does not set him free, it is just the matter of time!

 

[Kigogo]

huyu Kagame asipoangalia atafanywa kama Taylor

 

[Msolopagazi]

Safi ndiyo heshima itakuja kwa maraisi wetu East africa na bado Msseveni na J Kikwete