"Rwanda: The Untold Story": questions for the BBC

"Rwanda: The Untold Story": questions for the BBC


Kwa akili ya PK ( na wale aliowatuma humu jf) kila ukweli ukisemwa tofauti na wale waliolipwa kuoneza propaganda zauongo yeye hukimbilia kusema "ni ufaransa", this time wanaosemani wale alaliokaa Nao kupanga genocide ndio wanaanika ukweli. Imekula kwenu " inyenzi".
 
Karibu sana mkuu...mimi ni mnywarwanda na kuna msemo fulani eti "waarabu wa pemba hujuana kwa vilemba"...huyu jMali ni mnyarwanda ambae ana chuki binafsi na raisi wetu Kagame. Kuhusu unyarwanda wake hilo tumeshalidhihirisha ijapokuwa bado anakataa ili aendelee kupata support ya watanzania. Watanzania wengi hawana tatizo na Rwanda wala Kagame, kwenye siasa kuna kutofautiana ila yote hayo huwa yanapita. Nashukuru kuwa umegundua kuwa jMali sio mtanzania. Naomba uendelee kuwaelimisha watanzania wengine ili wamjue for what he really is.

Msipotoshe Mada na kuanza kukadili "uhutu" na "ututsi' we nu . Tujadili genocide. The fact is " RPF" ndio waliopanga kuua wahutu na walitekeleza.
 
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Msipotoshe Mada na kuanza kukadili "uhutu" na "ututsi' we nu . Tujadili genocide. The fact is " RPF" ndio waliopanga kuua wahutu na walitekeleza.

You are sick and twisted lakini you are free to mouth whatever you want.
 
Msipotoshe Mada na kuanza kukadili "uhutu" na "ututsi' we nu . Tujadili genocide. The fact is " RPF" ndio waliopanga kuua wahutu na walitekeleza.

Duh! mkuu umewashikilia pabaya ....... Yaani huyo murutongore sijui ni jini? yeye ana uwezo wa kuona mtu kuwa ni kabila fulani...ahahahha. alafu anasema watanzania wengi hawana tatizo na rwanda wala kagame, sijui hiyo statistic amepewa na nani? jMali lete mambo mkuu.
 
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jMali

1. The prosecutor's office had evidence to indict kagame in 2002, but she was removed before doing that?
As long as those evidence are not out, as long as Kagame was not indicted why do you force me to believe that??
2. That in 1997, UN investigative team recommended the prosecutor of ICTR to arrest kagame?
Then why they didn`t arrest him?
3. That former US secretary of state Warren Christopher confirms that the white house received intel on RPF mass killings in 1994.
Even to day those msg are still sent not only to white house but also to HRW,UN etc not all sent messages are credible,
Do you know how many reports are being sent by Rudasingwa and the likes?

1. Ni ukweli kuwa documentary ya BBC imediriki kukisema kile ambacho kwa miaka 20 kilijaribu kufichwa...!
2. Kuhusu mauaji wa wahutu hata pro-Kagame writers like Gen. Romeo amekiri kwenye kitabu chake bila kumung'unya maneno....! Gerald Prunier (...katika kitabu chake...From Genocide to Continental War) alienda mbali zaidi kuhusu takwimu, ambazo BBC pia imeonesha the same
3. Appeal chambers kule Arusha....ilitoa breakthrough conclusion...kuwa genocide haikupangwa....bali ulikuwa ni mlipuko kutokana na chuki ya muda mrefu.....nani alisababisha huo mlipuko (its obvious Kagame)

BBC walichofanya ni kuweka wazi the suppressed facts about Rwandan genocide......!
 
Duh! mkuu umewashikilia pabaya ....... Yaani huyo murutongore sijui ni jini? yeye ana uwezo wa kuona mtu kuwa ni kabila fulani...ahahahha. alafu anasema watanzania wengi hawana tatizo na rwanda wala kagame, sijui hiyo statistic amepewa na nani? jMali lete mambo mkuu.
jMali, JustDoItNow, one and the same. Multiple IDs just shows how bankrupt your ideas are. Hujiamini?
 
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1. Ni ukweli kuwa documentary ya BBC imediriki kukisema kile ambacho kwa miaka 20 kilijaribu kufichwa...!
2. Kuhusu mauaji wa wahutu hata pro-Kagame writers like Gen. Romeo amekiri kwenye kitabu chake bila kumung'unya maneno....! Gerald Prunier (...katika kitabu chake...From Genocide to Continental War) alienda mbali zaidi kuhusu takwimu, ambazo BBC pia imeonesha the same
3. Appeal chambers kule Arusha....ilitoa breakthrough conclusion...kuwa genocide haikupangwa....bali ulikuwa ni mlipuko kutokana na chuki ya muda mrefu.....nani alisababisha huo mlipuko (its obvious Kagame)

BBC walichofanya ni kuweka wazi the suppressed facts about Rwandan genocide......!

Hili swali niliwahi kumuuliza jMali, kwa nini na tuhuma zote hizo ambazo mnasema Kagame alifanya hajafikishwa mahakamani? Labda msaidi jMali manake yeye huwa analikwepa hili swali
 
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Mkuu kwanza kabisa Rwanda kunaweza kuwa na changamoto lakini si kiasi hicho kama hizi sites zako zinavyoonesha.
Pili hata issue ya watu kuwa malaya ni swala binafsi na haliwezi kuwa na sura ya kitaifa. Na pia uelewe kuna kasumba ya MTU akifanana na mnyarwanda huitwa mnyarwanda. Na ni aibu kumtumia Mwamfupe kama creditable source.
 
Commanche

Mkuu mm anataka anieleze japo mazuri machache yaliyofanywa na fdlr na pia mafanikio ya serikali yake tangu walipopata madaraka mpaka walipotekeleza genocide 1994!

Kiongozi hana la kueleza kwa kuwa anajua hakuna walichofanya wauaji wale. Hawa jamaa wako busy trying to rewrite history twenty years down the line. Siasa zao ni za chuki. Hawana policy ya maana zaidi ya anti Tutsi empty rhetoric. Wengi wao hata Rwanda hawajakanyaga for decades.
 
jMali, JustDoItNow, one and the same. Multiple IDs just shows how bankrupt your ideas are. Hujiamini?

Ahahahahaha! mzee wakutabiri. Mkuu jMali unaona mambo hayo? nafikiri hii mentality walionayo ndo inawaaribu kisaikolojia. Jamaa anaamini ID yangu na yako ni mtu mmoja. Duh! ipo kazi kweli kweli...
Ni sheeeeda!!!
 
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Hakuna haja ya kuhangaika kujibu chochote:

Andrew wallis ni MSHAURI WA SERIKALI YA RWANDA/KAGAME. unategemea aseme nini? Huyu mtu ni sehemu ya PR machine ya Rwanda. Hivi sasa huu utumbo wake umeshakuwa re-tweeted hundreds of time na watutsi wote extremists twitter na kuwa shared vya kutosha huko facebook.
Articles za huyu "genocide scholar" huwa zinachapishwa regularly kwenye gazeti la " MSHAURI WA RWANDA " mwingine Bw. Andrew mwenda na hata ukiingia sasa hivi :The Independent: You get the truth We Pay the Price utakuta huu utumbo front-page. Ingia kwenye regional news utakuta kuna habari za Rwanda zaidi ya EAC nzima combined ! Hii mbinu ya Kagame ya kununua media imeshashitukiwa siku nyingi sana. Sitashangaa hapa nyumbani kwetu kama gazeti la CITIZEN linalohaririwa na RICHARD MGAMBA nalo likachapisha huu utumb o, lets watch!

Hebu angalieni akili ya huyu MSHAURI WA KAGAME, ANDREW WALLIS hapa:

Andrew Wallis, an advisor to the Kagame government, takes all of this in stride, raising and then answering a critically important question:
"The question is whether Rwanda is ready for a Western-style democracy, and the answer at this point probably is no," said Wallis. "He has been called many things, but one is for sure: Kagame is a man of immense vision, and that vision is being impressively implemented. Why must outsiders keep pushing their theories of how to run a country onto Rwanda?"
source:Ari Kohen's Blog — The Rwandan Election

kwa akili hizi, HUYU NDIO MTU WA KUBISHANA NA BBC?
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Andrew Mwenda is on Kagame's payroll and unethical journalist | Ugandans-At-Heart


cc: Gama Bongolander


wewe ndiyo kichekesho kabisa,sasa unapinga nini sasa?kama unaamini kwamba watu hutumiwa kwanini hiyo untold story isiwe imepikwa ili kuharibu sura ya serikali ya sasa ya rwanda ukizingatia wanaotumiwa kutoa habari ni wapinzani wa pk.
 
Ahahahahaha! mzee wakutabiri. Mkuu jMali unaona mambo hayo? nafikiri hii mentality walionayo ndo inawaaribu kisaikolojia. Jamaa anaamini ID yangu na yako ni mtu mmoja. Duh! ipo kazi kweli kweli...
Ni sheeeeda!!!

Mnaweza kua watu tofauti lakini wote ni interahamwe ideology ni moja tu.
 
Kiongozi hana la kueleza kwa kuwa anajua hakuna walichofanya wauaji wale. Hawa jamaa wako busy trying to rewrite history twenty years down the line. Siasa zao ni za chuki. Hawana policy ya maana zaidi ya anti Tutsi empty rhetoric. Wengi wao hata Rwanda hawajakanyaga for decades.

yani mtusi kawazidi kete inawauma sana ndiyo maana wanafanya juu chini ili wawaharibu lakini jamaa wako makini sana hawata waweza,kunajamaa alinisimulia tofauti ya muhutu na mtusi ni kwamba mzungu akimuomba muhutu kufanya kitu yeye husema ndiyo bwana lakini mtusi anauliza why? sasa hapo ndiyo tatizo kati ya mtusi na mzungu.
 
yani mtusi kawazidi kete inawauma sana ndiyo maana wanafanya juu chini ili wawaharibu lakini jamaa wako makini sana hawata waweza,kunajamaa alinisimulia tofauti ya muhutu na mtusi ni kwamba mzungu akimuomba muhutu kufanya kitu yeye husema ndiyo bwana lakini mtusi anauliza why? sasa hapo ndiyo tatizo kati ya mtusi na mzungu.

Ha ha ha kweli aise. Basi jamaa zako hapa watasema Tutsi ni jeuri kumbe watu hawataki kunyanyaswa. Angalia hawa genocidaire hapa wanavyopapatikia wazungu. Oh France did this or BBC has done that. Eti wakadiriki hata kuitwa wazungu "French Hutu", yeah right! Extremist bastards!
 
Hakuna haja ya kuhangaika kujibu chochote:

Andrew wallis ni MSHAURI WA SERIKALI YA RWANDA/KAGAME. unategemea aseme nini? Huyu mtu ni sehemu ya PR machine ya Rwanda. Hivi sasa huu utumbo wake umeshakuwa re-tweeted hundreds of time na watutsi wote extremists twitter na kuwa shared vya kutosha huko facebook.
Articles za huyu "genocide scholar" huwa zinachapishwa regularly kwenye gazeti la " MSHAURI WA RWANDA " mwingine Bw. Andrew mwenda na hata ukiingia sasa hivi :The Independent: You get the truth We Pay the Price utakuta huu utumbo front-page. Ingia kwenye regional news utakuta kuna habari za Rwanda zaidi ya EAC nzima combined ! Hii mbinu ya Kagame ya kununua media imeshashitukiwa siku nyingi sana. Sitashangaa hapa nyumbani kwetu kama gazeti la CITIZEN linalohaririwa na RICHARD MGAMBA nalo likachapisha huu utumb o, lets watch!

Hebu angalieni akili ya huyu MSHAURI WA KAGAME, ANDREW WALLIS hapa:

Andrew Wallis, an advisor to the Kagame government, takes all of this in stride, raising and then answering a critically important question:
"The question is whether Rwanda is ready for a Western-style democracy, and the answer at this point probably is no," said Wallis. "He has been called many things, but one is for sure: Kagame is a man of immense vision, and that vision is being impressively implemented. Why must outsiders keep pushing their theories of how to run a country onto Rwanda?"
source:Ari Kohen's Blog â€" The Rwandan Election

kwa akili hizi, HUYU NDIO MTU WA KUBISHANA NA BBC?
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Andrew Mwenda is on Kagame's payroll and unethical journalist | Ugandans-At-Heart


cc: Gama Bongolander

JMali Usilete uongo hapa, Andrew Wallis Amekuwa mshauri wa Kagame Tangia lini? Ni Mshauri wa masuala yepi? unataka kuleta uongo wazi wazi. Kwa vile ufafanuzi wake kuhusu hii issue wewe hukubaliani nao na huna valid point ku challenge umeona utumie shortcut kwa kumpatia cheo cha mshauri wa Kagame. Shame on you! anyway am not surprise your obssession makes you a very cheap personality.
 
[h=1]100 days of hell: Rwanda's 1994 genocide in photos[/h][h=2]20 years on, some horrors still can't be described in words.



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[FONT=Georgia !important]It started with one murder. It ended with some 800,000.

[FONT=Georgia !important]The Rwandan genocide, which began 20 years ago this week, was one of the worst atrocities in living memory. It took just 100 days to massacre as much as 20 percent of the country's population, decimate its infrastructure and sow the seeds of regional conflicts still to come. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia !important]Here are 20 photos that tell the story of the events of April to July 1994. Because some things there are no words to describe.[/FONT]
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[h=2]April 6: The plane carrying Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana, shown here in 1982, is shot down over Kigali.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]Habyarimana and Burundi President Cyprien Ntaryamira, both members of the Hutu ethnic group, are killed along with everyone else onboard.[/FONT]
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[h=2]April 7: The killings begin.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]First political opponents are executed, then security forces and militia systematically murder members of the Tutsi minority, as well as moderate Hutus. This photo, taken on April 11, shows a looter ransacking a house as its occupants lie dead.[/FONT]
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[h=2]April 13: Within days, France and Belgium deploy soldiers to evacuate their nationals.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]They do not have orders to protect Rwandan civilians.[/FONT]
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(PASCAL GUYOT/AFP/Getty Images)[/FONT]

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[h=2]April 19: Thousands of Rwandans flee the killing.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]More than 30,000, including this man and his son, cross the border into Burundi in less than two weeks.[/FONT]
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[h=2]April 30: More than 8,000 Tutsis take shelter at the Niashishi refugee camp in the south of Rwanda, where French soldiers guard them.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]
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[h=2]May 12: Security forces, joined by members of the public, continue to massacre Tutsis at a rate of thousands per day.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]Women are raped and sexually assaulted as part of the campaign to wipe out the ethnic group.[/FONT]
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[h=2]May 27: Armed rebel group the Rwandan Patriotic Front or RPF, made up chiefly of Tutsi exiles, battles government forces to stop the genocide.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]Civilians flee the fighting, like this girl outside Kigali.[/FONT]
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(ALEXANDER JOE/AFP/Getty Images)[/FONT]

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[h=2]May 27: Meanwhile UN Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali meets US President Bill Clinton in Washington to discuss the crisis.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]The international community resists acknowledging the genocide or any duty to intervene.[/FONT]
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[h=2]May 27: The massacre has made thousands of orphans, including these children seeking refuge at a church in Kabgayi.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]In the weeks that follow, thousands of refugees will be killed here, allegedly with the help of clergy themselves.[/FONT]
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[h=2]May 30: By now, militia groups have recruited children to assist the atrocities.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]
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[h=2]June 8: RPF forces are advancing.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]They capture and detain people they accuse of participating in the genocide as they go, including these men in Kabouga.[/FONT]
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[h=2]June 9: RPF fighters, including this boy, battle for control of the capital.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]
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[h=2]June 11: Under pressure from the RPF, government forces recruit young militiamen to help them fight the rebels.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]
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[h=2]June 13: The UN, which removed most of its peacekeepers following the deaths of Belgian soldiers at the beginning of the conflict, sends troops to evacuate refugees from Kigali.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]Some lucky families are reunited.[/FONT]
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[h=2]June 14: Rebels gain ground in Kigali.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]When this picture was taken, two days later, the capital was strewn with bodies.[/FONT]
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[h=2]June 22: The UN Security Council approves a proposal by France to send troops to establish a "safe zone" for refugees in southwest Rwanda.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]Soldiers from France and several African countries enter the country the next day. "Operation Turquoise," as it is known, proves controversial.[/FONT]
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[h=2]July 17: As the RPF leads its final offensive, hundreds of thousands flee the fighting.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]Many find themselves packed into makeshift camps in eastern Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo).[/FONT]
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[h=2]July 17: At least 100 people are trampled in the rush to escape across the border.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]By now, President Clinton has described the genocide as the "worst humanitarian crisis in a generation."[/FONT]
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[h=2]July 18: By mid-July, the RPF and its commander, Paul Kagame (pictured in Kigali on July 20), are claiming victory.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]The government flees into Zaire.[/FONT]
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[h=2]Afterward: The RPF forms a coalition government and bans all forms of ethnic discrimination.[/h][FONT=Georgia !important]But many people, including Hutus who fear retribution attacks, remain too scared to stay in Rwanda. The genocide leaves behind it hundreds of thousands of refugees, widows, orphans and people infected with HIV, as well as structural and economic devastation. Some sites where massacres took place, like this church in Nyamata, are turned into memorials to the estimated 800,000 people killed.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Georgia !important]http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/africa/140407/100-days-hell-rwanda-1994-genocide-photos[/FONT]

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JMali Usilete uongo hapa, Andrew Wallis Amekuwa mshauri wa Kagame Tangia lini? Ni Mshauri wa masuala yepi? unataka kuleta uongo wazi wazi. Kwa vile ufafanuzi wake kuhusu hii issue wewe hukubaliani nao na huna valid point ku challenge umeona utumie shortcut kwa kumpatia cheo cha mshauri wa Kagame. Shame on you! anyway am not surprise your obssession makes you a very cheap personality.

ushahidi wa kwanza:
Andrew Wallis, an advisor to the Kagame government, takes all of this in stride, raising and then answering a critically important question: "The question is whether Rwanda is ready for a Western-style democracy, and the answer at this point probably is no," said Wallis. "He has been called many things, but one is for sure: Kagame is a man of immense vision, and that vision is being impressively implemented. Why must outsiders keep pushing their theories of how to run a country onto Rwanda?"
source:Ari Kohen's Blog â€" The Rwandan Election

ushahidi wa pili:

"Andrew wallis an advisor to kagame's government and author of Silent Accomplice: The untold story...."
source:https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/files/chathamhouse/public/The World Today/2010/wt081029.pdf

Umslopagas , nimekupa two sources. Either prove kwamba these people are talking about a different Andrew wallis, au omba msamaha kwa kuniita muongo tuendeleze debate. Otherwise naomba uache kuni-quote sitajadilli na mtoto kama wewe. Which option do you choose?
 
wewe ndiyo kichekesho kabisa,sasa unapinga nini sasa?kama unaamini kwamba watu hutumiwa kwanini hiyo untold story isiwe imepikwa ili kuharibu sura ya serikali ya sasa ya rwanda ukizingatia wanaotumiwa kutoa habari ni wapinzani wa pk.

Facts zitapingwaje na mtazamo wewe?
 
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