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Here are four straightforward reasons to believe that God is really there.
1. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few:
The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter. Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.
And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.
The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously. Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.
2. The universe had a start - what caused it?
Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.
Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."
Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."
The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter
.
3. The universe operates by uniform laws of nature. Why does it?
Much of life may seem uncertain, but look at what we can count on day after day: gravity remains consistent, a hot cup of coffee left on a counter will get cold, the earth rotates in the same 24 hours, and the speed of light doesn't change -- on earth or in galaxies far from us.
How is it that we can identify laws of nature that neverchange? Why is the universe so orderly, so reliable?
"The greatest scientists have been struck by how strange this is. There is no logical necessity for a universe that obeys rules, let alone one that abides by the rules of mathematics. This astonishment springs from the recognition that the universe doesn't have to behave this way. It is easy to imagine a universe in which conditions change unpredictably from instant to instant, or even a universe in which things pop in and out of existence."
Richard Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner for quantum electrodynamics, said, "Why nature is mathematical is a mystery...The fact that there are rules at all is a kind of miracle."
4. The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior.
All instruction, all teaching, all training comes with intent. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose. Did you know that in every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program? As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do. The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billion of these letters in every human cell!!
Well, just like you can program your phone to beep for specific reasons, DNA instructs the cell. DNA is a three-billion-lettered program telling the cell to act in a certain way. It is a full instruction manual.13
Why is this so amazing? One has to ask....how did this information program wind up in each human cell? These are not just chemicals. These are chemicals that instruct, that code in a very detailed way exactly how the person's body should develop.
Natural, biological causes are completely lacking as an explanation when programmed information is involved. You cannot find instruction, precise information like this, without someone intentionally constructing it.
To be continued
 

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To believe of some thing, its show how ignorant you are on that particular subject/thing
Belief is for the laziest and week subjects, and week subject always suffers.

"The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creation from God." is only for lazy and primitive minded people..

God is just an invented illusion in people's mind..
 

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Here are four straightforward reasons to believe that God is really there.
1. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few:
The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter. Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.
And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.
The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously. Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.


First things first, you plagiarized this and did not attribute see https://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Complexity does not prove the existence of your God. How does complexity prove God exists?

Can you prove God exists?


2. The universe had a start - what caused it?
Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.
Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."
Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."
The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter
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Do you accept what scientists say or not? What is the universe? When did it start? How do you know that to be a fact?

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3. The universe operates by uniform laws of nature. Why does it?
Much of life may seem uncertain, but look at what we can count on day after day: gravity remains consistent, a hot cup of coffee left on a counter will get cold, the earth rotates in the same 24 hours, and the speed of light doesn't change -- on earth or in galaxies far from us.
How is it that we can identify laws of nature that neverchange? Why is the universe so orderly, so reliable?
"The greatest scientists have been struck by how strange this is. There is no logical necessity for a universe that obeys rules, let alone one that abides by the rules of mathematics. This astonishment springs from the recognition that the universe doesn't have to behave this way. It is easy to imagine a universe in which conditions change unpredictably from instant to instant, or even a universe in which things pop in and out of existence."
Richard Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner for quantum electrodynamics, said, "Why nature is mathematical is a mystery...The fact that there are rules at all is a kind of miracle."[/QUOTE]

Does the universe operate by laws of nature? Not by God's wishes?

Are you saying the universe operates by laws of nature and not by God's wishes?

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4. The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior.
All instruction, all teaching, all training comes with intent. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose. Did you know that in every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program? As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do. The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billion of these letters in every human cell!!
Well, just like you can program your phone to beep for specific reasons, DNA instructs the cell. DNA is a three-billion-lettered program telling the cell to act in a certain way. It is a full instruction manual.13
Why is this so amazing? One has to ask....how did this information program wind up in each human cell? These are not just chemicals. These are chemicals that instruct, that code in a very detailed way exactly how the person's body should develop.
Natural, biological causes are completely lacking as an explanation when programmed information is involved. You cannot find instruction, precise information like this, without someone intentionally constructing it.
To be continued

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Why do none of the so called Holy Book contain theDNA code or even mention DNA if they are truly God's books?

Can you prove God exists and that the whole thing about God being real is not a funny fiction?
 

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You need to be the first class idiot to doubt the existence of the super natural power-GOD
Thanks for the post.
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If there is any one first class idiot in this world, then that alone proves there is no all loving, all knowing super natural God.

Such a God would not create a universe in which idiots could exist.

You are contradicting yourself.
 

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If there is any one first class idiot in this world, then that alone proves there is no all loving, all knowing super natural God.
Such a God would not create a universe in which idiots could exist.
You are contradicting yourself.
Being an idiot is upon your will since God created all people with sane mind.
We all teach our kids to adhere good manners but when they harden their hearts and swim with the tide of wickedness we are not the ones to be blamed.
Hope your harden skull will let this example penetrate to your mind.
 

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Being an idiot is upon your will since God created all people with sane mind.
We all teach our kids to adhere good manners but when they harden their hearts and swim with the tide of wickedness we are not the ones to be blamed.
Hope your harden skull will let this example penetrate to your mind.
So your God is sadistic?

He has the power to create a universe in which idiots cannot exists, yet he chose not to create that universe?

How can such a sadistic God be all loving?

You are contradicting yourself!
 

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And this is where we get it wrong always.... You can't prove existence of a spiritual being by using physical means.....

I always tell atheists that every element has it's own way of proving it..... That's why you go to a laboratory and carry out experiments to prove a given solution.

Thus if christians and muslims claim God exists..... And yo believe it's a spiritual deity then how on earth will you rely on mortal things to prove his existence

To Christians John 4:24 says God is spirit..... So you approach HIM in spirit only.... Thus if you are to prove the existence of God an atheist should use this approach and then offer us a feedback if God exists or not otherwise you'll be wasting time trying to prove if there is a ''geenie in the bottle'' without opening it.

Cc mitale na midimu
 

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Why do none of the so called Holy Book contain theDNA code or even mention DNA if they are truly God's books?
Naona suala la Dna umelipita kijuu juu tu sababu nafahamu Atheist wengi wanapata vigugumizi wakiliongelea.

Miaka ya 1950's na 60's Structure ya Dna ilipodadavuliwa zaidi ilionekana Dna ni kama digital storage nyengine tu, inauwezo wa kuhifadhi vitu na ina Binary like language ambayo ni complex sana.

Hata bill gate wakati anaielezea alikuwa akisema Dna ni kama software like software ambayo ni complex sana kushinda tunazotengeneza wanadamu.

Na miaka ya karibuni hapa wanasayansi wamegundua kijiko kimoja cha chai cha dna kinauwezo wa kuhifadhi data zote za ulimwengu mzima toka uumbwe hadi sasa.

Na kuna wengine waliofanikiwa kustore petabytes 214 kwenye gram moja ya Dna.

Swali kwako bwana Kiranga
"kama ni Dna ni digital storage, ina binary like code kama vile zilivyo memory card ama storage nyengine za computer nani kaitengeneza hii Dna? Ama una ushahidi wowote wa flash ama hard disk iliyojitengeneza yenyewe kwa evolution ama kitu chengine kilichotokea kwa coincidence?"
 

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To believe of some thing, its show how ignorant you are on that particular subject/thing
Belief is for the laziest and week subjects, and week subject always suffers.

"The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creation from God." is only for lazy and primitive minded people..

God is just an invented illusion in people's mind..
Saying belief is for sloppy ones,ain't be true! Though i'm neither theist nor agnostic, but belief is for everyone despite the instinct.
 

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And this is where we get it wrong always.... You can't prove existence of a spiritual being by using physical means.....

I always tell atheists that every element has it's own way of proving it..... That's why you go to a laboratory and carry out experiments to prove a given solution.

Thus if christians and muslims claim God exists..... And yo believe it's a spiritual deity then how on earth will you rely on mortal things to prove his existence

To Christians John 4:24 says God is spirit..... So you approach HIM in spirit only.... Thus if you are to prove the existence of God an atheist should use this approach and then offer us a feedback if God exists or not otherwise you'll be wasting time trying to prove if there is a ''geenie in the bottle'' without opening it.

Cc mitale na midimu
What is spirit on your context?
 

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Naona suala la Dna umelipita kijuu juu tu sababu nafahamu Atheist wengi wanapata vigugumizi wakiliongelea.

Miaka ya 1950's na 60's Structure ya Dna ilipodadavuliwa zaidi ilionekana Dna ni kama digital storage nyengine tu, inauwezo wa kuhifadhi vitu na ina Binary like language ambayo ni complex sana.

Hata bill gate wakati anaielezea alikuwa akisema Dna ni kama software like software ambayo ni complex sana kushinda tunazotengeneza wanadamu.

Na miaka ya karibuni hapa wanasayansi wamegundua kijiko kimoja cha chai cha dna kinauwezo wa kuhifadhi data zote za ulimwengu mzima toka uumbwe hadi sasa.

Na kuna wengine waliofanikiwa kustore petabytes 214 kwenye gram moja ya Dna.

Swali kwako bwana Kiranga
"kama ni Dna ni digital storage, ina binary like code kama vile zilivyo memory card ama storage nyengine za computer nani kaitengeneza hii Dna? Ama una ushahidi wowote wa flash ama hard disk iliyojitengeneza yenyewe kwa evolution ama kitu chengine kilichotokea kwa coincidence?"
I'm waiting the reply
 

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Saying belief is for sloppy ones,ain't be true! Though i'm neither theist nor agnostic, but belief is for everyone despite the instinct.
Belief makes people week..especial to those individuals thus can not think their own thought and depend to be saved by leaders and supernatural powers..

For your case am confidently is different.
 

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What is spirit on your context?
Meaning of spirit in religion has a broad meaning and it requires an entire thread to explain this.

However In this context it means God is an invisible deity.... So only way to seek him is through your spirit in simple terms inner being be it mind/heart/conscious whatever.... through various religious "rituals" such as prayers/Meditation/worship e.t.c that's how u feel the presence of that deity.

So if one is to doubt HIS presence, he/she should try the so called ''religious rituals'' as other religious fanatics/Lunatics or whatever atheists call them then report back to us if He was able to meet that God as they do or not.

That's all i can advise all atheists but trying to force one to prove the existence of something using different methods is insanity

Like trying to prove the depth of the sea using a 12 CM ruler!!!
 

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Naona suala la Dna umelipita kijuu juu tu sababu nafahamu Atheist wengi wanapata vigugumizi wakiliongelea.
Hujajibu swali langu, kwa nini vitabu vya Mungu havijatuambia DNA code, ingewasaidia sana watu waliotaka kujua baba na watoto kama ni wao kibaiolojia, ingesaidia sana ku solve uhalifu kujua nani alikuwa muhalifu.

Miaka nenda miaka rudi hatukujua DNA code ikoje, mpaka juzi tu hapa.

Kwa nini Mungu kama kweli yupo hakuweka DNA code kwenye Quran, Biblia, Torah na vitabu vingine vya dini tuijue tangu awali?

Better yet, kwa nini hakutupa uwezo tu wa kujua hilo tangu tunazaliwa?

Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote kwa nini atubanie hivyo?

Hujajibu swali.

Miaka ya 1950's na 60's Structure ya Dna ilipodadavuliwa zaidi ilionekana Dna ni kama digital storage nyengine tu, inauwezo wa kuhifadhi vitu na ina Binary like language ambayo ni complex sana.

Hata bill gate wakati anaielezea alikuwa akisema Dna ni kama software like software ambayo ni complex sana kushinda tunazotengeneza wanadamu.

Na miaka ya karibuni hapa wanasayansi wamegundua kijiko kimoja cha chai cha dna kinauwezo wa kuhifadhi data zote za ulimwengu mzima toka uumbwe hadi sasa.

Na kuna wengine waliofanikiwa kustore petabytes 214 kwenye gram moja ya Dna.
Hujajibu swali.

Swali kwako bwana Kiranga
"kama ni Dna ni digital storage, ina binary like code kama vile zilivyo memory card ama storage nyengine za computer nani kaitengeneza hii Dna? Ama una ushahidi wowote wa flash ama hard disk iliyojitengeneza yenyewe kwa evolution ama kitu chengine kilichotokea kwa coincidence?"
Swali langu hujalijibu, umerukia kuniuliza swali.

Na mimi nakuuliza, kwa nini unafikiri swali la kuuliza hapa ni "nani" na si "nini" ?

Unaelewa kwamba swali lako lenyewe limekaa likitaka jibu la upande fulani? Yani, swali lako limeulizwa kwa bias ya mtu mwenye jibu lake mfukoni na ndiyo maana umeuliza "nani" badala ya "nini"?

Unaelewa hilo?
 

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Hujajibu swali langu, kwa nini vitabu vya Mungu havijatuambia DNA code, ingewasaidia sana watu waliotaka kujua baba na watoto kama ni wao kibaiolojia, ingesaidia sana ku solve uhalifu kujua nani alikuwa muhalifu.

Miaka nenda miaka rudi hatukujua DNA code ikoje, mpaka juzi tu hapa.

Kwa nini Mungu kama kweli yupo hakuweka DNA code kwenye Quran, Biblia, Torah na vitabu vingine vya dini tuijue tangu awali?

Better yet, kwa nini hakutupa uwezo tu wa kujua hilo tangu tunazaliwa?

Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote kwa nini atubanie hivyo?

Hujajibu swali.



Hujajibu swali.



Swali langu hujalijibu, umerukia kuniuliza swali.

Na mimi nakuuliza, kwa nini unafikiri swali la kuuliza hapa ni "nani" na si "nini" ?

Unaelewa kwamba swali lako lenyewe limekaa likitaka jibu la upande fulani? Yani, swali lako limeulizwa kwa bias ya mtu mwenye jibu lake mfukoni na ndiyo maana umeuliza "nani" badala ya "nini"?

Unaelewa hilo?
Umeniuliza wapi swali? Hio ndio comment yangu ya kwanza.

Na mimi ndio nimekuuliza wewe swali kama dna ina kitu kama software ambacho kinadirect mambo mbalimbali unasemaje ni kitu kinatokea tu chenyewe? Kitu kama adobe photoshop ama microsoft office kinaweza tokea chenyewe kwa evolution tu?

By the way hio theory ya Intelligent design haina mahusiano yoyote na Quran wala Bible bali inathibitisha tu uwepo wa muumba kwamba kuna muumba mwenye akili aliyetutengeneza na hatujatokana na evolution.
 

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Umeniuliza wapi swali? Hio ndio comment yangu ya kwanza.

Na mimi ndio nimekuuliza wewe swali kama dna ina kitu kama software ambacho kinadirect mambo mbalimbali unasemaje ni kitu kinatokea tu chenyewe? Kitu kama adobe photoshop ama microsoft office kinaweza tokea chenyewe kwa evolution tu?

By the way hio theory ya Intelligent design haina mahusiano yoyote na Quran wala Bible bali inathibitisha tu uwepo wa muumba kwamba kuna muumba mwenye akili aliyetutengeneza na hatujatokana na evolution.
Kwa nini swali lako limekuwa "nani" na si "nini"?

Hujajibu swali hili.
 

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To believe of some thing, its show how ignorant you are on that particular subject/thing
Belief is for the laziest and week subjects, and week subject always suffers.

"The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creation from God." is only for lazy and primitive minded people..

God is just an invented illusion in people's mind..
Jamaa anatumia maelezo yaliyotolewa na sayansi iliyokana habari ya uwepo wa mungu kuonesha uwepo wa mungu
 

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Belief makes people week..especial to those individuals thus can not think their own thought and depend to be saved by leaders and supernatural powers..

For your case am confidently is different.
okay good..by using you brain tell us how binadamu kaja dunian yaan origin ya binadamu ni nn
 

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Hujajibu swali langu, kwa nini vitabu vya Mungu havijatuambia DNA code, ingewasaidia sana watu waliotaka kujua baba na watoto kama ni wao kibaiolojia, ingesaidia sana ku solve uhalifu kujua nani alikuwa muhalifu.
Unafikiri hili jambo ni muhimu sana ?

Halafu vitabu vya dini si vitabu vya Sayansi na hakuna mtume aliyekuja kufundisha namna ya kujenga nyumba au kujenga barabara.

Mola wetu aliwatuma mitume na manabii kuwajulisha waja lipi baya na lipi zuri,vipi wafanye biashara na vipi waishi,na nini kinafata baada ya kufa.

Mfano mzuri,mtume wetu aliwakuta swahaba zake wakipandikiza miti ya mitende,jambo hili aliwakataza,matokeo yake kwa msimu huo mavuno yalikuwa hafifu sana kinyume na vile walivyokuwa wakipandikiza miti hiyo,baada ya hilo ndio mtume amani ya Allah iwe juu yake akaja kuwaambia "Hakila nyinyi mnayajua yanayohusu dunia yenu".

Kuna elimu ya dunia na elimu ya akhera,na elimu zote zinatoka kwa Allah,kwahiyo kutozungumziwa kwa DNA kulikuwa hakuna haja,ndio maana Allah aliye juu akawapa elimu hiyo waja wake wengine.
 

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