Papa Francis: There are limits to free expression

[Kakende]

Lost in translation, kakende?

Link Surat An-Nahl [16:68-69] - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????

Then eat from all the fruits and follow the ways of your Lord laid down [for you]." There emerges from their bellies a drink, varying in colors, in which there is healing for people. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who give thought.

Kakende, does it say eat fruits or eat from the fruits?

Imesema katikan kila matunda, siyo katika Maua. Nyuki wanakula hata maua ya mihombo, maharage, nk

 

[Nonda]

Bees do not Eat Fruit

Bees feed on nectar and pollen. However, the Qur'an relates that bees consume fruit.


And thy Lord taught the Bee to build its cells in hills, on trees, and in (men's) habitations; Then to eat of all the fruits (of the earth), and find with skill the spacious paths of its Lord: there issues from within their bodies a drink of varying colors, wherein is healing for men: verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought.
Qur'an 16:68-69

Hiyo unaitafsiri vipi?
Kula matunda ?
Wewe ni mtaalamu wa lugha, bana..fanya uadilifu?
1. To eat of all the fruits
2. To eat all fruits.
Je kuna tofauti ya maana hapo?

 

[Kakende]

Hiyo unaitafsiri vipi?
Kula matunda ?
Wewe ni mtaalamu wa lugha, bana..fanya uadilifu?
1. To eat of all the fruits
2. To eat all fruits.
Je kuna tofauti ya maana hapo?

Hiyo ni mistake nyuki kula katika matunda, Ebu niambie hapa

[h=3]All Organisms are Created in Pairs-Not true[/h] Main Article: Qur'anic Claim of Everything Created in Pairs
Not every creature procreates or reproduces through male and female sexual relationship. The whiptail lizard in the U.S. Southwest, Mexico, and South America, is an all-females species which reproduces by parthenogenesis. Viruses reproduce using a host's DNA and are neither female nor male. Bacteria reproduce by cell division. Fungus can reproduce either sexually or asexually. Many species of plants also reproduce either asexually or through pollination.


Qur'an 51:49

And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction

 

[Adiosamigo]

Mimi nataka ulete Verse kwenye Bible inayosema habari ya u boy friend direcly, mimi ndio maana huwa natoa verse kwenye Quran, sitaki mambo ya kuhisi, Mbona Quran Hadith inasema directly kuwa Mohammad alifanya mapenzi na mateka wa kivita, mke wa mwanae wa kulea. Yesu alimpenda SIMON PETRO ambae baadae alifia Roma,pia ndio Papa wa kwanza

Nimekwambia, Kwa Yesu wale wanafunzi ni sawa na Wanae, hata mimi Akitokea nitamlalia Kifuani, nimkiss, nimkumbatie.

dogo mbona nimeweka hapo point juu kuhusu John usiku wa kukamatwa kwa Yesu ni mmoja tu ambaye hakukimbia wakati wa kukamatwa kwake, hajavaa kitu chochote sa nikuwekee mara ngapi, ni bibili andio inasema vile. Afu we umeleta evidence gani zaid ya kuleta uwongo na kubadilisha badhi ya Aya za Qur'an inavyo sema, ona aibu dogo. Mimi nashangaa bibilia zenu zinasema Yesu ni shoga na kichaa, sio mimi naye sema hayo. Mimi namheshimu sana Yesu, sitaweza kusema ujinga huo ni bilia zenu we kasome vizuri utapata tu ukweli.

 

[Nonda]

Usilete Ukanjanja hapa, ukiongea neno ulete na supporting evidence, Quran inasema kabisa kuwa mBinguni kuna Mabikra, wamo kwenye Mahema, pia Kuna mito ya Pombe. Sasa wewe unajua, Ukinywa Pombe ukaongeza na Mwanamke ni sawa na kusema Mbinguni ni Danguro

Unaposoma Biblia unafahamu nini?
Kwa mfano hii aya:
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses
Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

Je hayo ni maneno ya "mungu" wako au Paulo?

 

[Frank Castello]

Jamani biology ya form two si ndio inafundisha nyuki wanapiga necta na polen,hata mtoto wa form two analielewa hlo,sasa ubish unatoka wapi?kweli mfumo wetu wa elimu umeexpire.

 

[Adiosamigo]

Jamani watumishi wa Mungu aliye hai:
wakina Nkwesa Makambo, Ishmael Kakende mgen na wengineo ..nawaombeni Nendeni taratiibu na kwa upole kidogo jamani.

Fahamuni tu kuwa hawa wakina Adiosamigo ndio wamiliki wa hii forum. NA ni kawaida kwao kusadiki kuliko kuhoji koran yao. Kama ambavyo Christians wanavyohoji ukristo. Kwahiyo mnadili na serious autocratic doctrine .hivyo Wakizidiwa wataweka kufuli huu uzi mapema iwezekanavyo.

Hahaha dogo 2013 mimi nafurahi sana napo ona unatafuta point za kijinga. Toka lini mimi nikawa mmiliki wa hii Forum. Afu sijaona wapi mmetuzidia nacho ona nyie ndio hamna kitu zaidi yakurudia ujinga huo huo. tukiwawekea point mnajidai hamzioni.

 

[Kakende]

Unaposoma Biblia unafahamu nini?
Kwa mfano hii aya:
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses
Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

Je hayo ni maneno ya "mungu" wako au Paulo?

Ukitaka kuelewa Biblia, soma kisa kizima na siyo kubandua maneno, Soma Mlango wa 3 wote upate maana, ningekuwekea hapa lakini nitajaza uzi.

 

[Kakende]

Jamani biology ya form two si ndio inafundisha nyuki wanapiga necta na polen,hata mtoto wa form two analielewa hlo,sasa ubish unatoka wapi?kweli mfumo wetu wa elimu umeexpire.[/QUkOTE]

Sharia inasema Ukimpnga Mohammad sharti uuawe, hivyo inabidi uamini kuwa Dunia inazama kwenye tope, Nyuki wanakula Matunda, viumbe wote wameumbwa kwa pair nk

Qur'an 51:49

And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction

 

[Nonda]

Hiyo ni mistake nyuki kula katika matunda, Ebu niambie hapa

All Organisms are Created in Pairs-Not true

Main Article: Qur'anic Claim of Everything Created in Pairs
Not every creature procreates or reproduces through male and female sexual relationship. The whiptail lizard in the U.S. Southwest, Mexico, and South America, is an all-females species which reproduces by parthenogenesis. Viruses reproduce using a host's DNA and are neither female nor male. Bacteria reproduce by cell division. Fungus can reproduce either sexually or asexually. Many species of plants also reproduce either asexually or through pollination.


Qur'an 51:49

And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction

Link Quran-Islam.org - True Islam

 

[Kakende]

dogo here we go, Jesus was, however, in love with one of his disciples. We know this because at the last supper Jesus got his kit off and his boyfriend came over and snogged him in front of everybody – which was a very improper display of public affection.

John, 13:4;"So he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist''


John 13.23;"Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples whom Jesus loved"
Now, although the disciple remains anonymous in this passage of the Bible, most Christian theologians believe his boyfriend was actually John the Evangelist.

John, 13:4;"

2 Hata wakati wa chakula cha jioni; naye Ibilisi amekwisha kumtia Yuda, mwana wa Simoni Iskariote, moyo wa kumsaliti;
3 Yesu, hali akijua ya kuwa Baba amempa vyote mikononi mwake, na ya kuwa alitoka kwa Mungu naye anakwenda kwa Mungu,
4 aliondoka chakulani; akaweka kando mavazi yake, akatwaa kitambaa, akajifunga kiunoni.
5 Kisha akatia maji katika bakuli, akaanza kuwatawadha wanafunzi miguu, na kuifuta kwa kile kitambaa alichojifunga.
6 Hivyo yuaja kwa Simoni Petro. Huyo akamwambia, Bwana! Wewe wanitawadha miguu mimi?
7 Yesu akajibu, akamwambia, Nifanyalo wewe hujui sasa; lakini utalifahamu baadaye.
8 Petro akamwambia, Wewe hutanitawadha miguu kamwe. Yesu akamwambia, Kama nisipokutawadha, huna shirika nami.
9 Simoni Petro akamwambia, Bwana, si miguu yangu tu, hata na mikono yangu na kichwa changu pia.
10 Yesu akamwambia, Yeye aliyekwisha kuoga hana haja ila ya kutawadha miguu, bali yu safi mwili wote; nanyi mmekuwa safi, lakini si nyote.

 

[Kakende]

Link Quran-Islam.org - True Islam

Propaganda hizo mkuu, ukitaka kutafsiri utakavyo sawa.

 

[Nonda]

Ukitaka kuelewa Biblia, soma kisa kizima na siyo kubandua maneno, Soma Mlango wa 3 wote upate maana, ningekuwekea hapa lakini nitajaza uzi.

Je hayo maneno unadai inmebandua ni maneno ya "mungu" wako?
Au utajaza uzi kuandika fairy tale?

Kama hii ndio "standard" unayoiweka, mtu asibandue maneno kwa nini wewe huwa unabandua maneno kutoka kwenye Quran kwa lengo la kupindisha maana na ukweli?

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Hakuna Wakristo huko mama, Wakristo huko ni wa kutafuta kwa tochi. Middle East Wakristo wamekimbia, wanatishiwa kuuawa na Waislam, kama ujuavyo Wakristo kwao visasi, kuua ni dhambi, inabidi wahame. Miaka ya 1940+ Jprdan ilikuwa na Wakristo wengi kuliko Waislam, lakini sasa wamekimbia baada ya vitisho.

Umewahi kujiuliza kwanini Waislam wanakimbilia nchi za Ki kristo wakati wakristo ukimbia nchi za Kiislam?
Umewahi kujiuliza kwanini inapotokea vita, hata kama ni vita ya kidini Waislam ukimbilia Kanisani?

IT IS BECAUSE OF LOVE TEACHING OF JESUS

Since '94 Horror, Rwandans Turn Toward Islam

KIGALI, Rwanda, April 6- When 800,000 of their countrymen were killed in massacres that began 10 years ago this week, many Rwandans lost faith not only in their government but in their religion as well. Today, in what is still a predominantly Catholic country, Islam is the fastest growing religion.
Roman Catholicism has been the dominant faith in Rwanda for more than a century. But many people, disgusted by the role that some priests and nuns played in the killing frenzy, have shunned organized religion altogether, and many more have turned to Islam.
''People died in my old church, and the pastor helped the killers,'' said Yakobo Djuma Nzeyimana, 21, who became a Muslim in 1996. ''I couldn't go back and pray there. I had to find something else.''
Source: Since '94 Horror, Rwandans Turn Toward Islam - NYTimes.com

 

[Kakende]

Link Quran-Islam.org - True Islam

[h=3]Night is a Veil-Not true[/h] Night is just the darkness of space as seen from the earth due its rotation.

Qur'an 7:54

Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession:

[h=3]Space Flight is Impossible[/h] The first space ships and travel beyond the atmosphere of earth occurred over 60 years ago. With current technology, humankind has already explored the end of the solar system. The Qur'an however, implies that going beyond the earth is forbidden.


O ye assembly of Jinns and men! If it be ye can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass ye! not without authority shall ye be able to pass!
Qur'an 55:33

[h=3]Sky Guards the Earth[/h] Asteroids and meteorites have penetrated the atmosphere and hit the earth throughout the course of history. This includes the massive meteorite that hit near the Yucatán Peninsula 65 million years which killed off numerous species including most dinosaurs. There is no guardian, whatsoever, that prevents these types of events form happening.


And We have made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things (point to)
Qur'an 21:32

 

[chuma cha reli]

Akihutubia maelfu ya waumini na washabiki nchini Philippines, Kiongozi mkuu wa kanisa la Catholic duniani (jina mtanisaidia) ameonya kwamba ili amani iendelee duniani, uhuru wa vyombo vya habari au raia kujieleza au kueleza jambo lolote usiguse/usikwaze imani za wengine. Binafsi ninamuunga mkono 100, kazi kwenu wanajamvi.

Sasa kulikuwa na washabiki Wa nini au papa alikuwa anacheza kiduku...watu bwana

 

[Adiosamigo]

Tafuta Professor yeyote duniani, nyuki hajawahi kula matunda, Wanakula Nectar na polen. Full stop

Bees are adapted for feeding on nectar and pollen, the former primarily as an energy source and the latter primarily for protein and other nutrients. Most pollen is used as food for larvae.

Bee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

dogo Kakende wacha ujinga, here we go; Do honey bees eat fruit?The short answer is yes. Honey bees, especially in a nectar dearth, find ripe fruit very much to their liking. They have been known to feast on plums, peaches, grapes, apples, figs, and pears. But the issue that causes all the disagreement among beekeepers is whether honey bees will actually drill a hole in a fruit or if they simply use pre-existing breaks in the skin created by a wasp, stink bug, beetle, bird, or some other creature. FYI honey bees are even capable of breaking the skin of fruits.

 

[Nonda]

Propaganda hizo mkuu, ukitaka kutafsiri utakavyo sawa.

Uzuri wa Quran ni kuwa imehifadhiwa katika lugha yake ya asili.
Wanazuoni wanapohitilafiana katika tafsiri au maarifa(knowledge) inapoongezeka katika jamii basi kuna nafasi na uwezekano wa kuielewa Quran vizuri zaidi.

Ndio sababu utaona kuna wanansanyasi wengi wanaingia katika dini ya uislamu baada ya kuona mambo, vitu vimetajwa katika Quran wakati huo ambao imani kuu ilikuwa ni ujahili na ushirikina. Vipi Quran ingeweza kutaja vitu kwa usahihi ambavyo maarifa na elimu ya jambo, vitu hivyo vimejulikana baada ya elimu na ujuzi wa sayansi kuendelea karne kadhaa baadae.
Mfano huu

 

[Gambamala]

Since '94 Horror, Rwandans Turn Toward Islam

KIGALI, Rwanda, April 6- When 800,000 of their countrymen were killed in massacres that began 10 years ago this week, many Rwandans lost faith not only in their government but in their religion as well. Today, in what is still a predominantly Catholic country, Islam is the fastest growing religion.
Roman Catholicism has been the dominant faith in Rwanda for more than a century. But many people, disgusted by the role that some priests and nuns played in the killing frenzy, have shunned organized religion altogether, and many more have turned to Islam.
''People died in my old church, and the pastor helped the killers,'' said Yakobo Djuma Nzeyimana, 21, who became a Muslim in 1996. ''I couldn't go back and pray there. I had to find something else.''
Source: Since '94 Horror, Rwandans Turn Toward Islam - NYTimes.com

Uko sahihi kabisa, kuna wakati Wachungaji wakanisa ugeuka kuwa Mashetani, huwa inatokea mara moja moja makanisa kuwa brutal. Lakini Nenda Iran, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan Ukiwa umevaa Rozali uone kama WAISLAM HAWATAKUKATA KICHWA?

 

[Nonda]

Night is a Veil-Not true

Night is just the darkness of space as seen from the earth due its rotation.

Qur'an 7:54

Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession:

Space Flight is Impossible

The first space ships and travel beyond the atmosphere of earth occurred over 60 years ago. With current technology, humankind has already explored the end of the solar system. The Qur'an however, implies that going beyond the earth is forbidden.


O ye assembly of Jinns and men! If it be ye can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass ye! not without authority shall ye be able to pass!
Qur'an 55:33

Sky Guards the Earth

Asteroids and meteorites have penetrated the atmosphere and hit the earth throughout the course of history. This includes the massive meteorite that hit near the Yucatán Peninsula 65 million years which killed off numerous species including most dinosaurs. There is no guardian, whatsoever, that prevents these types of events form happening.


And We have made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things (point to)
Qur'an 21:32

Unakumbuka nilikupa link ya rebuttals za upotoshaji wa wakristo juu ya aya za Quran ulipokuja kwa ile ID Ki-ingine? Sasa kurudia rudia haitosaidia.