Nyerere: Salaam zenu mnaomkejeli!


FaizaFoxy.
Bora umejitokeza huyu jamaa wa gongolamboto kila akiongea pumba zake anakutaja wewe kama ushaidi..

Najiuliza Kariakoo na Gongolamboto wapi na wapi...
 
Naomba wale waliochapwa viboko pale mlimani miaka hiyo kwa kusema heri ya mkoloni kuliko nyerere waichangie hii hoja
 
Waislam wa bongo wanambwembwe haooooooo,ni nouma!!Tatizo lao moja tu,Wepesi sana kusahau na kuchanganya mada!Badala ya mwalimu hapa,sasa hamehamia kuchambua Kura "honey" kazi kwelikweli.
 
Muislam haruhusiwi kujiita Ritz au Kuongezea neno Foxy mbele ya jina la Faiza.
Ritz is an unislamic name, ni sawa na kujipa nickname John au Charles. Allah atakuita jina hilo siku ya kiama na utamjibu kwanini ulilichagua.
Foxy can be beauty or animalistic, sijui Allah atahukumu vipi, ila mpaka sasa ni makruh.
 
Hawaruhusiwi kuchat na wanaume kwenye forums kama hizi, hapa mimi na wewe tupo chumba au baraza moja na your big lips are turning me on, funika uso wako la sivyo unamuudhi Allah. Sizugumzii Iran, nazungumzia uislam.
 
Hiyo ndo siri? Ni nani unayetaka kumdanganya? Nilishakufahamisha kabla kwamba mimi sio rika lako, kwa hiyo acha utani na tafakari. Hizo takwimu unazoleta hapa hazijibu hoja yeyote. Hebu nipe forum moja ya nchi hizo ambako wanawake wanaruhusiwa kujibizana na wanaume kama itokeavyo hapa. Uongo ni dhambi kwa Mwenyezi Mungu, nadhani hilo unalijua!
 

Nadhani kama tungeacha vitu alivyovifanya Nyerere vilevile lakini jina lake lingekuwa ni Abdallah Masoud , leo hii watanzania wote tungekuwa tunathamini mchango wake bila ya kuwa na hizi chokochoko zinazoendelea.
Mimi bado ninajiuliza hii chuki ya Kanisa Katoliki waislam wameitolea wapi maana wengi wao bila kusoma shule za mission(nyingi zikiwa za katoliki ) sijui leo hii wangekuwa wapi.
Nipo hapa nasoma kitabu kinaitwa NYERERE, FREEDOM AND SOCIALISM| UHURU NA UJAMAA.
Alichoanza nacho Nyerere wakati tunapata uhuru na changamoto alizokutana nazo nadhani kama wangekuwa ndiyo hawa marais wetu wa awamu zilizofuata ingekuwa ni bonge la disaster.

Page ya 58 imenikumbusha jinsi baadhi ya waislam wanavyomlalamika Nyerere kuwa aliirudisha nyuma kimaendeleo mikoa ya kusini(yenye waislam wengi) .
Haya ni maneno yake kwenye ufunguzi wa Hospitali ya kutibu Ukoma huko Mtwara...26 July 1965.

...This is a Christian mission , but the leprosarium is not for Christians only - the majority of the patients are in fact adherents to the Muslim faith. I do not believe there is anything wrong in this , on either side. On the contrary , I believe it is a recognition that whatever our particular beliefs about God and His Prophets we can best worship Him by living together, and working together, in harmony , and in His service...

Hapo baadhi ya ndugu zetu hata shukran kidogo hakuna. Ukoma wa akina Moody kwishney lakini shukrani ni mateke tu...!

page 224: Hapa anafungua matawi ya Morogoro Teachers College...27 August 1966

...The days when our people chose between accepting the Christian religion or remaining uneducated have now gone.
I am convinced that this is a good thing both for the nation and for the different churches. Serving the needy because they are needy , regardless of race , tribe or religion , can do nothing but the good. This attitude may be termed secular, but it is by no means irreligious. All it means is that in our society Muslims,pagans, Hindus, Protestants , and Catholics , all have an equal chance to enter such institutions as this Teacher's College, and that none of them need fear that an attempt will be made to seduce them from their own beliefs . The Morogoro Teacher's College , as much as the Dar es Salaam Teacher's College , is now open to all our educationally qualified citizens regardless of their religion . It is part of our nationally integrated education system...

Hapa na kwenyewe hakuna shukran na watasema Nyerere ni mdini na baba wa Kanisa
Hakuna hata shukran kwa jitihada zake za kuondoa upungufu wa wataalam mbalimbali katika nyanja tofauti wakiwemo walimu enzi hizo.
 
Hiyo ni kwel kabisa, walezi wngu walihamia huku baada ya kutokwa na wazazi wangu wote wawili, na nazungumzia historia ya marekani ambayo ni lazima kuisoma mpaka chuo hata kama unasomea udaktari, utaisoma kwenye GenEd, ni lazima angalau credit hrs 6!

Uzuri wake semester iliyopita nimesoma pre civil war history (HIST 205) na nimepata A+, na nakuhakikishia George washington ni father of Nation, nina uhakika 100%.

Na naweza kupost swali la mtihani wa naturalizion ya US, ambalo lmetungwa na ICE, linauliz who is thefathe of the Nation.... jibu lake ni George Washington. Usijibu kwa kuparamia bila kujua nilikuwa namjibu nani.Unapenda sana ku divert mada, sijui ni makusudi au your shallowness. Halafu umeiharibu hii mada kwa udini wako.

Huku ugenini, tunajitahidi sana kuelimisha wazungu kuhusu watu kama nyinyi, na wasomi wengi huku wanakariri mishafu kama an added advantage ya kupata kazi nzuri, na hutufuata sisi tuwaelekeze kuhusu maisha yetu. Hutuuliza kuhusu chuki zetu kwao na huwajibu kuwa sisi ni watu wa amani sana na hatuwadharau, uislam ulitawala ulaya kwa muda mrefu sana, hata Italy walikuwa na madiwani kwenye caliphate ya Sicily. Wacha chuki zako, unamuudhi Allah!
 
kuna mmoja aliwai kunishangaza nikamwmabia ujanaja wake wote wa kuponda Nyerere hawezi kuandika sentesi kuwa mwinyi mkapa na kikwete ni viongozi wabovu.

Yaani hata dakika mbili hazikuisha akaandika comment akihoji kwani Mwinyi chini ya utawala wake nini kibaya kilifanyika?????


Nikawa nimeprove kuwa wengi hawatzami hoja bali majina ya wahusika waku ndiyo yatatazama mueekeo wa hoja zao
 

FF
Mohamed said( Anayeejita muislam sahihi na si wale wa bakwata) anavyomuita Sykes baba anatumia nini. Je atahukumiwa adhabu gani kiislam sababu ya kosa hilo?

.Umeshajaribu kumuelismiaha Mohamed saidi scholar aliyetuletea historia iliyofichwa kuacha kumuita n kupotsha kuwa Sykes ni "baba". A
 
Hebu kawaambie jamaa wa Taleban huko Afghanistan hilo usemalo labda watakusikiliza, kwa sababu wewe inaonekana unajua maswala ya kidini kuliko wao!
 
Taleban hawafuati mila na utamaduni wa Afghanistan (kwanza wao wamepikwa toka kambi za wakimbizi Pakistan, kwenye shule za Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam chini ya Mullah Omar) bali wanatafsiri Uislam kama waujuavyo wao. Sasa wewe FaizaFoxy hujui kama kuongopa ni dhambi kwa Mwenyezi Mungu?
 
Naona hapa unazidi kuteleza. Haya, hebu nijibu hoja yangu niliyokuomba unipe kiungo cha forum yeyote ya katika nchi za kiislamu inayoruhusu malumbano kati ya wanaume na wanawake kama uonavyo hapa Tanzania, (najua na hii nayo utashindwa lakini ninajaribu).

Angalizo: mimi sipo katika madhehebu ya kikiristo!
 


Shindana kwa hoja na acha hayo mambo ya jinsia. Hapa unaonesha dalili ya kushindwa; ndiyo maana unaanza kwenda kwenye sexism.
 
Mr.Right said:
Shindana kwa hoja na acha hayo mambo ya jinsia. Hapa unaonesha dalili ya kushindwa; ndiyo maana unaanza kwenda kwenye sexism.
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Wewe kibwengu na wewe umekurupukia wapi? Soma kwanza mtiririko wa mjadala kabla hujaanza kutapika hayo mataputapu uliyobwia huko vichochoroni!
 
Jibu hoja yangu. Nimekuomba ulete kiungo cha mtandao angalau mmoja tu. Mbona unazunguka mbuyu?
 
Maana hata sijui sasa huko wapi na hizi hadithi zako wewe ungesema in simple tone kwamba ukubali kama yeye baba muasisisi umkubali (without religious points) na ungeachana na hiyo tafsiri ya baba halafu ungetuachie wengine tu-deal na the rest of the pumba ambazo mchambuzi kaandika maana anazungumza mambol ya IMF na Arusha declaration na mambo ya good dialogue huko ilikuwa ndio hatujibu na maana halisi za siasa lakini wewe Faiza Fox ni pumba tupu ukiamua nimekuweka kwenye mtu wa tatu sasa akitoka rev masa, wewe then superstar wetu.
 
FaizaFoxy said:
Panapokupa shida ni pale unapotaka kufanya kitendo cha mmoja kuwa ndiyo mafundisho ya Uislaam.

Jee hujawahi kuwaona Waislaam wanaokunywa pombe? Kama jibu ni umewahi, Jee, hayo ndio mafundisho ya Uislaam?

Nadhani hapo utakuwa umenielewa.
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Kwa hiyo hivyo wewe FF unavyoandika hapo unakuwa umeandika kwa niaba ya watu wangapi tofauti na wengine ili tujue unachoandika wewe ndio sahihi zaidi ya wengine wanajiona sahihi.

BTN
kuhusu wanywa pombe huwa nawashangaa zaidi hawajiulizi mara mbili kunywa pombe lakini kiti moto wanaogopa hata kuigusa. Hivi mafundisho yenu yanasemaje kipi haramu zaidi kati ya pombe na kitimoto? Kipi katika shida muislam anaweza kusamehewa akikitumia na kipi hakiruhusiwi kabisa.?

Nahakika pombe muislam hatakiwi kugusakatika hali yoyote lakini kuna vifungu vinaruhusu kitimito katika hali fulani. Lakini huku mtaani mbona maigizo yao ni tofauti
 

FF
Unajuwa hawa jamaa hata Halloween wameshaanza kusherehekea hapa TZ. Baadaye watasema iwe sikukuu ya kitaifa!! Halafu wakiulizwa kwa nini mnashereheka? watesema mbona nchi nyengine duniani za ... zinasherehekea!!
 
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