Ni nini future ya LAPSET?

Tony254 · Dec 1, 2021

nomasana said:
bro....these are Bongolalas strategy is not their forte. just look at that big country blessed with arable land and tons of precious natural resources....yet somehow they can't figure out a way out of poverty.

look at Botswana with it's diamonds now look at Tanzania with it's tanzanite.

calling them Bongolalas is not an insult is just stating a fact.

Their reasoning capacity is very low. They are saying that Kenya should not build roads towards Ethiopia or South Sudan because they are currently fighting. They think these countries will fight forever. In fact even right now Kengen is drilling geothermal wells in two different locations in Ethiopia despite the war going on. These Kengen contracts are worth billions of shillings. And then you get nincompoops here trying to convince us not to build roads towards our neighbours.

nomasana · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
While you discovered oil, you are among oil exporting countries still you die of hunger like flies, even your citizens can't afford descent houses, you can't afford even basic human needs like food, water. Shelter, stupid Country, failed state.

you're still a poor country but rich in resources just like DRC....but at least DRC have had nonstop civil wars, what is the bongolala excuse? mabeberu wanawaonea? ama you people are just stuck on stupid?!

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

Tony254 said:
Inaonekana hatutaelewana kwenye hili. Ethiopia hata kwa sasa hivi wanavyopigana ina opportunities nyingi kwa Kenya kushinda Tanzania. Tayari Kengen na Safaricom wamefaidika pakubwa huko Ethiopia. Isitoshe nyaya za umeme za KE na ET zimeunganishwa tayari kwa kusambazia Kenya umeme nafuu. Endelea kuona Ethiopia kama nchi useless. Sisi tunaona market ya 110 million people watakaonunua bidhaa zetu. Ethiopia ina uchumi mkubwa kushinda wenu sasa sijui unaringia lipi ukizingatia wamewapiga hadi kwenye Gdp.

Tanzania Kuna zaidi ya makampuni 500 ya Kenya yamewekeza, nínauhakika makampuni ya Kenya Ethiopia hayazidi 100, unadhani hao wawekezaji wa Kenya hawana akili au hawajui kwamba Ethiopia wanauchumi mkubwa?. Ethiopia ni failed state Kama ilivyo Kenya, ni wawekezaji wachache(risk takers) ndio wataenda huko.

KENPAULITE · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
Tanzania Kuna zaidi ya makampuni 500 ya Kenya yamewekeza, nínauhakika makampuni ya Kenya Ethiopia hayazidi 100, unadhani hao wawekezaji wa Kenya hawana akili au hawajui kwamba Ethiopia wanauchumi mkubwa?. Ethiopia ni failed state Kama ilivyo Kenya, ni wawekezaji wachache(risk takers) ndio wataenda huko.

Protectionism, ngoja saii uone wakenya tukijaza makampuni huko

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

nomasana said:
you're still a poor country but rich in resources just like DRC....but at least DRC have had nonstop civil wars, what is the bongolala excuse? mabeberu wanawaonea? ama you people are just stuck on stupid?!

When you kill each other like animals because of tribalism what do you expect?, If you elect land grabbers just because he is from Gikuyu and you enrich your politicians for the expenses of Norma citizens, what can you call it?
Kenya imelaaniwa

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

KENPAULITE said:
Protectionism, ngoja saii uone wakenya tukijaza makampuni huko

Hata Tanzania mlisema Kuna protectionism lakini bado mumejazana, hivi unajua sababu kubwa ya Uganda na total kuhamisha Bomba la mafuta kuja Tanzania
1)Security reasons
2)Political stability

Waganda wanakumbuka hasara na usumbufu waliopata PEV 2007, wanakumbuka Jaluo walivyoharibu reli na malori Yao kuchomwa moto.

Wakati Nyerere alianza kujenga umoja na misingi ya ushikamano na Amani, Jomokenyata alikua akijenga ukabila na chuki miongoni mwa wakenya.

Tony254 · Dec 1, 2021

KENPAULITE said:
Protectionism, ngoja saii uone wakenya tukijaza makampuni huko

Ngojea Ethiopia ianze kufungua uchumi wake, Watanzania watashangaa. Tutamwagika huko kama siafu.
Cc joto la jiwe

Tony254 · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
When you kill each other like animals because of tribalism what do you expect?, If you elect land grabbers just because he is from Gikuyu and you enrich your politicians for the expenses of Norma citizens, what can you call it?
Kenya imelaaniwa

Waliolaaniwa ni nyinyi. Angalau sisi hatuna mineral resources. Most of our land is desert. Nyie Malazy bado ni masikini kushinda Kenya japo mna shamba kubwa yenye rutuba, minerals nyingi ikiwemo gold and diamonds. Excuse yenu ni gani kwa kuwa masikini kutushinda? Tanzania is cursed.

Tony254 · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
Hata Tanzania mlisema Kuna protectionism lakini bado mumejazana, hivi unajua sababu kubwa ya Uganda na total kuhamisha Bomba la mafuta kuja Tanzania
1)Security reasons
2)Political stability

Waganda wanakumbuka hasara na usumbufu waliopata PEV 2007, wanakumbuka Jaluo walivyoharibu reli na malori Yao kuchomwa moto.

Wakati Nyerere alianza kujenga umoja na misingi ya ushikamano na Amani, Jomokenyata alikua akijenga ukabila na chuki miongoni mwa wakenya.

Kama Waganda wanaogopa kufanya biashara na Kenya mbona hadi leo 80% ya import yao inapitia Mombasa port? Mbona hawatumii Dar port?

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

Tony254 said:
Kama Waganda wanaogopa kufanya biashara na Kenya mbona hadi leo 80% ya import yao inapitia Mombasa port? Mbona hawatumii Dar port?

The biggest source of Ugandans' import is Tanzania now, mwanzoni Kenya ilikua ndio chaguo lao la kwanza, Sasa hivi hawanunui tena Kenya, wanakuja kununua Tanzania, muda sio mrefu wataacha kutumia Mombasa port, Kama walivyoacha kununua bidhaa zenu

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

Tony254 said:
Waliolaaniwa ni nyinyi. Angalau sisi hatuna mineral resources. Most of our land is desert. Nyie Malazy bado ni masikini kushinda Kenya japo mna shamba kubwa yenye rutuba, minerals nyingi ikiwemo gold and diamonds. Excuse yenu ni gani kwa kuwa masikini kutushinda? Tanzania is cursed.

Tanzania imebarikiwa na Mungu kwa kila kitu, ndio sababu hatuchinjani Wala kuchukiana, kizazi kilicholaaniwa kamwe hamuwezi kuwa na Amani, mtachukiana na kuchinjana wenyewe kwa wenyewe hadi makanisani na katika Nyumba za ibada, hiyo ndio sifa ya kulaaniwa.

Tony254 · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
The biggest source of Ugandans' import is Tanzania now, mwanzoni Kenya ilikua ndio chaguo lao la kwanza, Sasa hivi hawanunui tena Kenya, wanakuja kununua Tanzania, muda sio mrefu wataacha kutumia Mombasa port, Kama walivyoacha kununua bidhaa zenu

Naomba tujikite kwenye facts tafadhali. Huwa sipendi masengenyo na udaku usio na tija. 🤣 Hebu leta source ya madai yako. Leta evidence.

Tony254 · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
Tanzania imebarikiwa na Mungu kwa kila kitu, ndio sababu hatuchinjani Wala kuchukiana, kizazi kilicholaaniwa kamwe hamuwezi kuwa na Amani, mtachukiana na kuchinjana wenyewe kwa wenyewe hadi makanisani na katika Nyumba za ibada, hiyo ndio sifa ya kulaaniwa.

Hatuzungumzi kuhusu vita. Tunazungumza kuhusu uchumi mzee. Mbona mna shamba kubwa yenye rutuba na madini mengi ila bado Kenya ambayo haina hivi vitu inawashinda kwenye ukubwa wa uchumi? Huoni hapo kuna tatizo mahali?

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

Tony254 said:
Their reasoning capacity is very low. They are saying that Kenya should not build roads towards Ethiopia or South Sudan because they are currently fighting. They think these countries will fight forever. In fact even right now Kengen is drilling geothermal wells in two different locations in Ethiopia despite the war going on. These Kengen contracts are worth billions of shillings. And then you get nincompoops here trying to convince us not to build roads towards our neighbours.

This type of reasoning is the main cause of Kenya,s misery and failures, why do you think since your independence you haven't built a single tarmac road to Ethiopia while you have almost four of them with Tanzania?.

Ethiopia like Kenya, Somalia, Rwanda, DRC and Burundi are very unstable, politically, Ethnically, Socially and Economically, it is very risky to build any strong and expensive projects in these countries, only temporary investments.

Why do you think Dangote is not interested very much with these countries?,. Gabriel Hailesilase, former World champion marathoner, has invested heavily in Ethiopia, now is counting losses, his Hotels and industries are targeted just because is from Amhara tribe.

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

Tony254 said:
Hatuzungumzi kuhusu vita. Tunazungumza kuhusu uchumi mzee. Mbona mna shamba kubwa yenye rutuba na madini mengi ila bado Kenya ambayo haina hivi vitu inawashinda kwenye ukubwa wa uchumi? Huoni hapo kuna tatizo mahali?

Unajua maana ya laana?, Ukilaniwa maisha yako yote ni shida, njaa, ukame, ukabila, terrorism, rushwa, political instability, crime, police brutality, killing each other, lack of natural resources, yote hayo ni dalili za kulaaniwa [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

Tony254 said:
Naomba tujikite kwenye facts tafadhali. Huwa sipendi masengenyo na udaku usio na tija. [emoji1787] Hebu leta source ya madai yako. Leta evidence.

Mbona unatia aibu Tony?, Yaani hujui kwamba Tanzania imeshawanyang'anya soko la Uganda?, Sasa hivi Tanzania is the biggest Exporter to you Uganda instead of Kenya, you are nor longer a major business partner to Uganda[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

joto la jiwe · Dec 1, 2021

Tony254 said:
Naomba tujikite kwenye facts tafadhali. Huwa sipendi masengenyo na udaku usio na tija. [emoji1787] Hebu leta source ya madai yako. Leta evidence.

Tanzania overtakes Kenya as Uganda’s largest imports source in EAC

Tanzania capped an eight-month surge in exports to Uganda during June, replacing Kenya as Uganda’s biggest source of imports within the East African Community (EAC), according to data from Bank...

www.thecitizen.co.tz

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BlietzKrieg · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
Tanzania overtakes Kenya as Uganda’s largest imports source in EAC

Tanzania capped an eight-month surge in exports to Uganda during June, replacing Kenya as Uganda’s biggest source of imports within the East African Community (EAC), according to data from Bank...

www.thecitizen.co.tz

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Source Ni gazeti ya Tanzania!!!
Ukiremember ONLY 3% of Uganda import passes through Dar!!!

Tony254 · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
Unajua maana ya laana?, Ukilaniwa maisha yako yote ni shida, njaa, ukame, ukabila, terrorism, rushwa, political instability, crime, police brutality, killing each other, lack of natural resources, yote hayo ni dalili za kulaaniwa [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Mimi naona laana ni mtu aliyepewa mali mengi lakini hajui kuitumia. Yesu Kristo mwenyewe alitoa mfano ya watu kadhaa waliopewa pesa wakawekeze. Kuna wale waliopewa pesa wakawekeza na kupata ongezeko la faida na kuna yule ambaye aliamua kutowekeza na baadaye kumrudishia boss wake pesa hio hio aliyopewa bila faida. Yesu alitoa mfano huo ili kuonyesha kwamba "To whom much is given much is expected." Yule ambaye amepewa mengi anategemewa kufaulu zaidi na kutenda mengi. Hio ndio baraka ya kweli. Hata Yesu analifahamu hilo.

Tony254 · Dec 1, 2021

joto la jiwe said:
Mbona unatia aibu Tony?, Yaani hujui kwamba Tanzania imeshawanyang'anya soko la Uganda?, Sasa hivi Tanzania is the biggest Exporter to you Uganda instead of Kenya, you are nor longer a major business partner to Uganda[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Umechanganya bangi na pilipili masala. Wewe unazungumza kuhusu jambo tofauti kabisa. Mimi nazungumza kuhusu port ya Mombasa ikilinganishwa na port ya Dar es Salaam na mizigo za Uganda ambazo zinapitia kwenye port hizi mbili. Wewe unaamua kuzungumza kuhusu trade balance ambayo mizigo yenyewe haipitii Dar port wala Mombasa port. Mizigo inayotengenezwa Tanzania inapitia border kati ya TZ na UG. Wacha niseme kwamba nikisema imports za Uganda simaanishi mizigo zinazotekea Kenya wala Tanzania bali namaanisha mizigo za UG zinazotokea ulaya. Leta data ya Dar port nami nilete ya Mombasa port tuone asilimia gani ya mizigo ya UG inapitia Mombasa port ikilinganishwa na Dar port.

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