Ni lini Wanyarwanda wataadhimisha mauaji ya Wahutu?

[MGOSI132]

Ndio maana sometimes i find it hard kubishana na nyinyi childish grown ups, unajua kabisa ukweli ni upi ila unadistort facts, unachukua taarifa za zamani unaziweka hapa knowing fully well.... anyway kwa faida ya watanzania wengine:

Kesi ya Nzabonimana iko kwenye appeal. Mugenzi, Mugiraneza, bagosora and others also were previously convicted but later on acquitted baada ya ku-appeal. Iam very optimistic that kesi ya Nzabonimana will turn out with an acquittal too.
Kiufupi kuna mtu mmoja tu ambaye amekuwa convicted na hili shitaka la conspiracy to commit genocide, naye ni jean kambanda ambaye mazingira ya kesi yake ni haya hapa chini, HAKI HAIKUTENDEKA KABISA. Prosecutors walimteka na kumuweka hostage, waliteka familia yake etc, akalazimishwa kuplead guilty. Isingekuwa hivyo huyu naye angekuwa aquitted of this charge. Vinginevyo jiulize how come yeye pekee ndie kahukumiwa kwa kosa hili? ina maana huyu alipanga MWENYEWE/ALONE genocide? halafu alitekeleza nani ikiwa nobody else hakupanga naye? nobody else knew of the conspiracy? hapa hata chizi hawezi kukubali.
Ushahidi huu hapa chini:

1. Orodha yote ya mashitaka ya ICTR: you can see for yourself status ya: Nzabonimana, Mugenzi na Mugiraneza.

• source: International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda - UNICTR > Cases > Status of Cases kama bado huamini angalia jinsi vyombo vyenu vinavyolialia source:The New Times Rwanda: :: ICTR used meaningless formula to acquit the worst genocidaires
• Jinsi Jean Kambanda alivyoonewa na ICTR:
  • Jean Kambanda, Convicted Without Trial
    
    “Jean Kambanda, Convicted Without Trial” is the title of Chapter 16 of the book A History of Political Trials byDr. John Laughland.
    Jean Kambanda’s confession is widely considered to be the sole uncontested evidence that the former Rwandan government conspired and planned to commit a genocide against the Tutsis in 1994.
    According to many ICTR defence counsel, the essential facts are that his confession is nothing but a miscarriage of justice, a world scandal and a shame for international justice.
    Upon his arrest on the 18th of July 1997, the Prime Minister of Rwanda was never assigned a lawyer and, unlike other accused brought before the ICTR, he was not taken to appear before a judge on his arrest as required by the Tribunal’s own Statute.
    Instead, he was taken to the national capital of Tanzania, Dodoma, several hundred kilometres away from Arusha, where the International Tribunal is located.
    He was kept incommunicado in a hotel for nine months.During those nine months he was denied the right to see a lawyer and was denied contact with his family or friends.
    During those nine months former Canadian police officers working with the ICTR continuously questioned him, and every day threatened him and his family if he did not cooperate, behaviour that can only be described as psychological torture.
    “[The] officer responsible for administering a “good dose of torture” to Mr. Kambanda was Pierre Duclos. Pierre Duclos is well known in his country, Canada. He was accused of perjury, fabricating evidence and obstructing justice in relation to the aborted trial of the Matticks brothers, a family involved in organized crime in Montreal.
    Yes, the ICTR hires individuals with a sulphurous past. In fact, the Canadian prosecutor Louise Arbour, whose record as prosecutor is also a dark one, was responsible for hiring Pierre Duclos” according to Patrick Mbeko, a Canadian of Congolese origin, in his article: Rwanda: “Genocide of Tutsis”, The Biggest Lie of The Century.
    ​
    According to our sources inside ICTR Tribunal, Mr Jean Kambanda was told every day that if he did not sign some sort of confession, his life was at risk and that of his family.
    He endured this for 9 months but then finally gave in and agreed to sign a document in which he stated simply that he accepted responsibility for his government’s actions in 1994 in his role of prime minister.
    Many ICTR lawyers and staff categorically affirm that Mr Jean Kambanda did not confess to genocide. He did not think that his government had done anything wrong in 1994.  (see Jean Kambanda’s Statement from Prison)
    The document he signed, he was told, (English is not his first language) stated simply that he accepted political responsibility for whatever his government did during 1994. He did not understand the document he was about to sign stated that his government had committed genocide.
    Remember, up to this stage, he had no access to a lawyer, was not told he had the right to remain silent and did not even know the charges against him nor the evidence the ICTR claimed to have.
    However, once he signed that document, he was finally taken to Arusha to appear before a judge and then was assigned a lawyer. However, he was not told that the lawyer he was assigned was the best friend of the Prosecutor in charge of his case.
    This lawyer then tricked him into agreeing to plead guilty. He thought he was only pleading “guilty” to political responsibility” for any actions his government took during the events of 1994 and was not a confession to a criminal act as such and he did not understand it to be a confession to war crimes or genocide.
    His assigned lawyer,and friend of the prosecutor never discussed with him the events of 1994, whether any crimes had been committed and whether or not he had a defence nor did he advise the judges of the circumstances of Mr. Kambanda’s detention and violation of his rights and psychological pressures placed on him.
    The prosecutor promised Mr. Kambanda that he would receive a 12 year sentenceif he made a plea of guilty based on the document he had signed.However the day he appeared in court and made theplea the judges gave him a life sentence without any hearing on the sentence and in violation of the agreement the prosecutor had made.
    He then spent the next couple of years pressing to be allowed to withdraw his plea as it was made under duress, in violation of his rights and by trickery.
    Finally in 2001 he was allowed to appear before a panel of judges to argue that the plea should be rescinded and he should be given a trial in which he could present a defence and tell the wolrd what happened in Rwanda in 1994.
    We have managed to speak to some ICTR Defence lawyers who were in the courtroom that day and watched the proceedings. They all recall how it was disgusting to watch what how he was treated.
    The prosecution counsel appearing in the “court” that day was also a Canadian. Kambanda told the judges the facts of his arrest and detention and how he was manipulated into signing the “confession” document.
    He stated repeatedly that neither he nor his government were responsible for planning or organising or conducting a genocide against the Tutsis in Rwanda and he never intended to plead guilty to that nor understood that he had.
    Mr. Kambanda demanded the right to a trial, the right to speak and the opportunity to tell the world what had really happened. But the Canadian prosecutor questioned him over and over asking simply “But you signed this document, did you not?”
    Kambanda would reply, “yes, but you’re not listening to what I am saying as to how I came to sign that document.” Then the same question was put-”You signed it?” And so on. At the end of the day they refused to allow him to withdraw his plea and he was taken away and silenced.
    Why did they do this? Because it was clear to them that if he was allowed a trial he was in a position to tell the world what had really happened and it would be a disaster for the RPF and the US and UK that control the tribunal. They could not allow him to talk so they shut him up.
    The ICTR needed to justify its existence and a reason for a second mandate.
    
    In his article titled “Main Achievements of the ICTR”, published in International Criminal Justice Journal of September 2005, Judge Erick Mose, former president of the ICTR, justifies the role of the ICTR stating that “During the first mandate (1995^1999), the Tribunal delivered ground-breaking judgments concerning genocide, such as Akayesu and Kambanda”.
    Since then many prisoners have refused to plead guilty and have insisted on trials. The accused used these trials especially the MIlitary I and Military II trials to bring out the truth the truth about the 4 year war in Rwanda and that in fact there was no government-sponsored genocide or planning of one against the Tutsis and that most of the accusations are false and that the RPF committed most of the atrocities.
    In 2003, Jean Kambandamade a statement as to what his true position was and that statement was later made an exhibit in the MIlitary II trial involving the chiefs of staff of the Rwandan Army and Gendarmerie. Â In his position, Jean Kambanda states:
    “16. I also swear also that the spread of trouble over the entire Rwandan territory was not caused by the government or by the FAR. The infiltrators of the RPF are responsible for that. We succeeded in capturing their plans, the names of their agents, and their arms caches in Kigali, Bisesero, Kibungo, etc. The mass graves dug deep by the accomplices of the RPF were discovered in many places. The terrorised population knew of this and considered it as a threat to their lives. The government, I at the head, never stopped to explain to the population that they cannot confuse the Tutsi and the RPF and that their accomplices must be arrested and brought before the authorities.”
    ​
    As this excerpt reveal, Jean Kambanda was set up and silenced so that the truth about what happened could not come out. But now it has.
    Now ex-Prime Minister Kambanda is rotting in prison in Mali, without trial, without a voice.His case deserves to be known by all Rwandans and, in fact, by all Africans who care for justice.

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Duu! mwanzoni ulisema nabishana na majaji, sasa unasema mahakama inaonea,what should we take?
For you the trial is only fair when some one is found not guilty lakini akihukumiwa then ni uonevu:
Hizo source zako ndizo zinanichekesha kabisa, you cant put a credible source, weka sources za UN organizations sio mitandao ya enemies of Rwanda.
The truth remains and will be..Rwanda inasonga mbele na Raia wake hata hawajui what you people are preaching..hii itaishia hapahapa jamiiforums.

 

[jMali]

Duu! mwanzoni ulisema nabishana na majaji, sasa unasema mahakama inaonea,what should we take?
For you the trial is only fair when some one is found not guilty lakini akihukumiwa then ni uonevu:
Hizo source zako ndizo zinanichekesha kabisa, you cant put a credible source, weka sources za UN organizations sio mitandao ya enemies of Rwanda.
The truth remains and will be..Rwanda inasonga mbele na Raia wake hata hawajui what you people are preaching..hii itaishia hapahapa jamiiforums.

umetaka sources za ictr nimekupa, na hizo zingine ni mjadala wa ziada je huoni haya kudanganya eti watu wamefungwa kumbe wako huru? shameless people! Onyesha how many people have been sentenced for conspiracy to commit genocide!

International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda - UNICTR > Cases > Status of Cases

source official ya ICTR hiyo hapo juu. hapa chini nakuwekea gazeti la mzee ili uamini kuwa jamaa wako huru:

The New Times Rwanda: :: ICTR used meaningless formula to acquit the worst genocidaires

 

[murutongore]

In other words, umeshindwa. Mkuu, MGOSI132 jamaa kanywea.

Ndio maana sometimes i find it hard kubishana na nyinyi childish grown ups, unajua kabisa ukweli ni upi ila unadistort facts, unachukua taarifa za zamani unaziweka hapa knowing fully well.... anyway kwa faida ya watanzania wengine:

Kesi ya Nzabonimana iko kwenye appeal. Mugenzi, Mugiraneza, bagosora and others also were previously convicted but later on acquitted baada ya ku-appeal. Iam very optimistic that kesi ya Nzabonimana will turn out with an acquittal too.
Kiufupi kuna mtu mmoja tu ambaye amekuwa convicted na hili shitaka la conspiracy to commit genocide, naye ni jean kambanda ambaye mazingira ya kesi yake ni haya hapa chini, HAKI HAIKUTENDEKA KABISA. Prosecutors walimteka na kumuweka hostage, waliteka familia yake etc, akalazimishwa kuplead guilty. Isingekuwa hivyo huyu naye angekuwa aquitted of this charge. Vinginevyo jiulize how come yeye pekee ndie kahukumiwa kwa kosa hili? ina maana huyu alipanga MWENYEWE/ALONE genocide? halafu alitekeleza nani ikiwa nobody else hakupanga naye? nobody else knew of the conspiracy? hapa hata chizi hawezi kukubali.
Ushahidi huu hapa chini:

1. Orodha yote ya mashitaka ya ICTR: you can see for yourself status ya: Nzabonimana, Mugenzi na Mugiraneza.

• source: International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda - UNICTR > Cases > Status of Cases kama bado huamini angalia jinsi vyombo vyenu vinavyolialia source:The New Times Rwanda: :: ICTR used meaningless formula to acquit the worst genocidaires
• Jinsi Jean Kambanda alivyoonewa na ICTR:
  • Jean Kambanda, Convicted Without Trial
    
    “Jean Kambanda, Convicted Without Trial” is the title of Chapter 16 of the book A History of Political Trials byDr. John Laughland.
    Jean Kambanda’s confession is widely considered to be the sole uncontested evidence that the former Rwandan government conspired and planned to commit a genocide against the Tutsis in 1994.
    According to many ICTR defence counsel, the essential facts are that his confession is nothing but a miscarriage of justice, a world scandal and a shame for international justice.
    Upon his arrest on the 18th of July 1997, the Prime Minister of Rwanda was never assigned a lawyer and, unlike other accused brought before the ICTR, he was not taken to appear before a judge on his arrest as required by the Tribunal’s own Statute.
    Instead, he was taken to the national capital of Tanzania, Dodoma, several hundred kilometres away from Arusha, where the International Tribunal is located.
    He was kept incommunicado in a hotel for nine months.During those nine months he was denied the right to see a lawyer and was denied contact with his family or friends.
    During those nine months former Canadian police officers working with the ICTR continuously questioned him, and every day threatened him and his family if he did not cooperate, behaviour that can only be described as psychological torture.
    “[The] officer responsible for administering a “good dose of torture” to Mr. Kambanda was Pierre Duclos. Pierre Duclos is well known in his country, Canada. He was accused of perjury, fabricating evidence and obstructing justice in relation to the aborted trial of the Matticks brothers, a family involved in organized crime in Montreal.
    Yes, the ICTR hires individuals with a sulphurous past. In fact, the Canadian prosecutor Louise Arbour, whose record as prosecutor is also a dark one, was responsible for hiring Pierre Duclos” according to Patrick Mbeko, a Canadian of Congolese origin, in his article: Rwanda: “Genocide of Tutsis”, The Biggest Lie of The Century.
    ​
    According to our sources inside ICTR Tribunal, Mr Jean Kambanda was told every day that if he did not sign some sort of confession, his life was at risk and that of his family.
    He endured this for 9 months but then finally gave in and agreed to sign a document in which he stated simply that he accepted responsibility for his government’s actions in 1994 in his role of prime minister.
    Many ICTR lawyers and staff categorically affirm that Mr Jean Kambanda did not confess to genocide. He did not think that his government had done anything wrong in 1994.  (see Jean Kambanda’s Statement from Prison)
    The document he signed, he was told, (English is not his first language) stated simply that he accepted political responsibility for whatever his government did during 1994. He did not understand the document he was about to sign stated that his government had committed genocide.
    Remember, up to this stage, he had no access to a lawyer, was not told he had the right to remain silent and did not even know the charges against him nor the evidence the ICTR claimed to have.
    However, once he signed that document, he was finally taken to Arusha to appear before a judge and then was assigned a lawyer. However, he was not told that the lawyer he was assigned was the best friend of the Prosecutor in charge of his case.
    This lawyer then tricked him into agreeing to plead guilty. He thought he was only pleading “guilty” to political responsibility” for any actions his government took during the events of 1994 and was not a confession to a criminal act as such and he did not understand it to be a confession to war crimes or genocide.
    His assigned lawyer,and friend of the prosecutor never discussed with him the events of 1994, whether any crimes had been committed and whether or not he had a defence nor did he advise the judges of the circumstances of Mr. Kambanda’s detention and violation of his rights and psychological pressures placed on him.
    The prosecutor promised Mr. Kambanda that he would receive a 12 year sentenceif he made a plea of guilty based on the document he had signed.However the day he appeared in court and made theplea the judges gave him a life sentence without any hearing on the sentence and in violation of the agreement the prosecutor had made.
    He then spent the next couple of years pressing to be allowed to withdraw his plea as it was made under duress, in violation of his rights and by trickery.
    Finally in 2001 he was allowed to appear before a panel of judges to argue that the plea should be rescinded and he should be given a trial in which he could present a defence and tell the wolrd what happened in Rwanda in 1994.
    We have managed to speak to some ICTR Defence lawyers who were in the courtroom that day and watched the proceedings. They all recall how it was disgusting to watch what how he was treated.
    The prosecution counsel appearing in the “court” that day was also a Canadian. Kambanda told the judges the facts of his arrest and detention and how he was manipulated into signing the “confession” document.
    He stated repeatedly that neither he nor his government were responsible for planning or organising or conducting a genocide against the Tutsis in Rwanda and he never intended to plead guilty to that nor understood that he had.
    Mr. Kambanda demanded the right to a trial, the right to speak and the opportunity to tell the world what had really happened. But the Canadian prosecutor questioned him over and over asking simply “But you signed this document, did you not?”
    Kambanda would reply, “yes, but you’re not listening to what I am saying as to how I came to sign that document.” Then the same question was put-”You signed it?” And so on. At the end of the day they refused to allow him to withdraw his plea and he was taken away and silenced.
    Why did they do this? Because it was clear to them that if he was allowed a trial he was in a position to tell the world what had really happened and it would be a disaster for the RPF and the US and UK that control the tribunal. They could not allow him to talk so they shut him up.
    The ICTR needed to justify its existence and a reason for a second mandate.
    
    In his article titled “Main Achievements of the ICTR”, published in International Criminal Justice Journal of September 2005, Judge Erick Mose, former president of the ICTR, justifies the role of the ICTR stating that “During the first mandate (1995^1999), the Tribunal delivered ground-breaking judgments concerning genocide, such as Akayesu and Kambanda”.
    Since then many prisoners have refused to plead guilty and have insisted on trials. The accused used these trials especially the MIlitary I and Military II trials to bring out the truth the truth about the 4 year war in Rwanda and that in fact there was no government-sponsored genocide or planning of one against the Tutsis and that most of the accusations are false and that the RPF committed most of the atrocities.
    In 2003, Jean Kambandamade a statement as to what his true position was and that statement was later made an exhibit in the MIlitary II trial involving the chiefs of staff of the Rwandan Army and Gendarmerie. Â In his position, Jean Kambanda states:
    “16. I also swear also that the spread of trouble over the entire Rwandan territory was not caused by the government or by the FAR. The infiltrators of the RPF are responsible for that. We succeeded in capturing their plans, the names of their agents, and their arms caches in Kigali, Bisesero, Kibungo, etc. The mass graves dug deep by the accomplices of the RPF were discovered in many places. The terrorised population knew of this and considered it as a threat to their lives. The government, I at the head, never stopped to explain to the population that they cannot confuse the Tutsi and the RPF and that their accomplices must be arrested and brought before the authorities.”
    ​
    As this excerpt reveal, Jean Kambanda was set up and silenced so that the truth about what happened could not come out. But now it has.
    Now ex-Prime Minister Kambanda is rotting in prison in Mali, without trial, without a voice.His case deserves to be known by all Rwandans and, in fact, by all Africans who care for justice.

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[Commanche]

umetaka sources za ictr nimekupa, na hizo zingine ni mjadala wa ziada je huoni haya kudanganya eti watu wamefungwa kumbe wako huru? shameless people! Onyesha how many people have been sentenced for conspiracy to commit genocide!

International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda - UNICTR > Cases > Status of Cases

source official ya ICTR hiyo hapo juu. hapa chini nakuwekea gazeti la mzee ili uamini kuwa jamaa wako huru:

The New Times Rwanda: :: ICTR used meaningless formula to acquit the worst genocidaires

r
Kambanda is as innocent as Elton John is as straight. C'mon dude! You cant really believe what you are jotting down here. Have you forgotten all the revolver-wielding,bullhorn blowing moments your uncle Kambanda used as his m.o to rile up extremist Hutu to butcher innocent Tutsi and moderate Hutu? For you to even suggest that Kambanda is innocent shows how extremely biased you are. For all I care, he got off easy.

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

kubali ukatae serikali ya Kagame imewatenga wahutu walio wengi katika taifa la rwanda hasa katika mambo muhimu kama vile ELimu, na kuwanyima nyazifa muhimu serikalini, lakini atambue kuwa anachokifanya kina mwisho wake coz akumbuke pamoja na kuwaua wahutu wengi alipoingia madarakani lakaini akumbuke kuwa haki ya mtu ina itachelewa lakini lazima ipatikane

ahahaahha...wewe nenda rwanda ukafanye utafiti wako alafu uone kuandika humu jf vitu vya uhakika,siyo kusadiki na kuanza kuandika bila fact zozote,nafasi muhimu unazo sema nikama zipi?

 

[jMali]

r
Kambanda is as innocent as Elton John is as straight. C'mon dude! You cant really believe what you are jotting down here. Have you forgotten all the revolver-wielding,bullhorn blowing moments your uncle Kambanda used as his m.o to rile up extremist Hutu to butcher innocent Tutsi and moderate Hutu? For you to even suggest that Kambanda is innocent shows how extremely biased you are. For all I care, he got off easy.

you seem to forget a simple fact that kambanda was a soldier of a legitimate government fighting a tutsi rebel army helped by Uganda. If he didn't wield a revolver what would you rather he wield? an "agafuni" like pilato kagame?

 

[Commanche]

you seem to forget a simple fact that kambanda was a soldier of a legitimate government fighting a tutsi rebel army helped by Uganda. If he didn't wield a revolver what would you rather he wield? an "agafuni" like pilato kagame?

Kambanda a soldier?? what rank was he? Au kwa sababu alikuwa akichochea kila mtu awe na bunduki? He he he.

 

[jMali]

Kambanda a soldier?? what rank was he? Au kwa sababu alikuwa akichochea kila mtu awe na bunduki? He he he.

the "soldier" should have been between "", a simple error on my part. Didn't you notice that or do you imply jMali doesn't know who kambanda is? :angry:

 

[murutongore]

Kambanda a soldier?? what rank was he? Au kwa sababu alikuwa akichochea kila mtu awe na bunduki? He he he.

jamaa jMali ni delusional..he believes in his own lies...

 

[murutongore]

you seem to forget a simple fact that kambanda was a soldier of a legitimate government fighting a tutsi rebel army helped by Uganda. If he didn't wield a revolver what would you rather he wield? an "agafuni" like pilato kagame?

Then why kill innocent villagers who have nothing to do with the "rebel army" and live thousands of miles away from the war front...can you explain that? If you can then you will have answered yourself why the genocide was planned and not a spontaneous mass killing.

 

[jMali]

Then why kill innocent villagers who have nothing to do with the "rebel army" and live thousands of miles away from the war front...can you explain that? If you can then you will have answered yourself why the genocide was planned and not a spontaneous mass killing.

Not in the mood, leo nakusalimia tu, bwana asifiwe! Umeenda kanisani lakini?

 

[murutongore]

Not in the mood, leo nakusalimia tu, bwana asifiwe! Umeenda kanisani lakini?

Uko kwenye siku zako? Pole

 

[jMali]

Uko kwenye siku zako? Pole

i forgive you. May my God bless your heart.

 

[MGOSI132]

umetaka sources za ictr nimekupa, na hizo zingine ni mjadala wa ziada je huoni haya kudanganya eti watu wamefungwa kumbe wako huru? shameless people! Onyesha how many people have been sentenced for conspiracy to commit genocide!

Definition yako iko sawa, lakini mahakama ya ICTR imethibitisha kuwa hakukuwa na mpango wa mauaji ya watutsi Rwanda! Kilichotokea ni mauaji spontaneous katikati ya vita.



International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda - UNICTR > Cases > Status of Cases

source official ya ICTR hiyo hapo juu. hapa chini nakuwekea gazeti la mzee ili uamini kuwa jamaa wako huru:

The New Times Rwanda: :: ICTR used meaningless formula to acquit the worst genocidaires

Nani muongo ebu prove hiyo statement yako hapo juu, huo ndio ulikuwa mjadala!!!Hizo source za ICTR sijaona huo uthibitisho.
Huoni haya kuongopea mahakama

 

[murutongore]

Nani muongo ebu prove hiyo statement yako hapo juu, huo ndio ulikuwa mjadala!!!Hizo source za ICTR sijaona huo uthibitisho.
Huoni haya kuongopea mahakama

Mkuu, jMali hayuko kwenye mood. Akishikwa pabaya huwa coincidentally anapoteza mood yake.

 

[Commanche]

Not in the mood, leo nakusalimia tu, bwana asifiwe! Umeenda kanisani lakini?

Dude I didnt write that (as much as I agree with whoever posted it) so dont quote me on it.

 

[jMali]

Nani muongo ebu prove hiyo statement yako hapo juu, huo ndio ulikuwa mjadala!!!Hizo source za ICTR sijaona huo uthibitisho.
Huoni haya kuongopea mahakama

kiswahili cha "conspiracy" ni nini kwa lugha yako ya kiswahili? kwangu mimi ni "mpango". kama nimekushtaki kwa mipango ya kuniua halafu nikashinda, maana yake nini? si ni kuwa hakukuwa na mipango?
soma hii chini hapa na hii ni fact sio analysis, maana mna kawaida ya kushambulia kioo badala ya taswira:

The real news was that ALL of the top Rwandan military officers, including the supposedly infamous Colonel Bagosora, were found not guilty of conspiracy or planning to commit genocide. And Gen. Gratien Kabiligi, a senior member of the general staff was acquitted of all charges! The others were found guilty of specific acts committed by subordinates, in specific places, at specific times - not an overall conspiracy to kill civilians, much less Rwandan-Tutsi civilians.

JURIST - Forum: Rwanda: No Conspiracy, No Genocide Planning ... No Genocide?

 

[jMali]

Dude I didnt write that (as much as I agree with whoever posted it) so dont quote me on it.

nimemjibu murutongore funny how that ended up to your account! not strange though hii mambo ya mitandao sometimes kwenye twitter unaweza kubishana na "@richardGoldstone", ukaishia kujibiwa na "@PaulKagame"

 

[Commanche]

nimemjibu murutongore funny how that ended up to your account! not strange though hii mambo ya mitandao sometimes kwenye twitter unaweza kubishana na "@richardGoldstone", ukaishia kujibiwa na "@PaulKagame"

He he he I gotta give it you, you can be funny at times my friend. FDLR mnamchukia sana Kagame

 

[jMali]

He he he I gotta give it you, you can be funny at times my friend. FDLR mnamchukia sana Kagame

If i were FDLR i would ask you doesn't kagame hate FDLR too?