Masoud Kipanya is wrong about SUA

[kuruptkingpin]

These are among the first products of B.Sc. Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness, who decided to venture into agriculture against all odd to show it can be done.

Infact, with the quality of training SUA is offering nothing is impossible. SUA can even train rats to detect landmines faster and efficiently than machines!! The rats can diagnose tuberculosis faster than machines and and with amazing accuracy!! Ije human being kuwa banker?

I also rememeber this guy, one of the big shots at International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Prof Salema, tena kasomea udungo, au naye alipewa hiyo kazi na the so called system mbovu ya Tanzania? Wenye hoja muflis watasema oooh kaingilia kazi za El Baradei
Mbona hamumpingi Tibaijuka? Naye alipelekwa na system ya Bongo?
Na Mshindo Msolla? Kasomea udongo, akawa coach wa Taifa Stars... Kaingilia kazi... Na wako wengi tu .... Basi hakuna kazi itayobaki... Jamaa wa SUA wataendelea kuzizoa!!

 

[Mbogela]

Daily News Reporter in Dodoma, 30th July 2009 @ 00:49,

MOROGORO-based University of Sokoine ranked fourth best university in East and Central Africa last year, Deputy Minister for Education and Vocational Training, Ms Mwantumu Mahiza told the National Assembly yesterday.

Ms Mahiza said this while responding to Bububu Member of Parliament, Masolwa Cosmas Masolwa (CCM) who asked why SUA was allocated vast tracts of land which it does not put to optimum use.

Ms Mahiza said the university has an area of 2,376 hectares at the main campus in Morogoro, 1,050 hectares at Solomon Mahlangu campus also in Morogoro, 840 hectares of leased forest from Ministry of Natural Resources and Tourism at Olmotonyi in Arusha and 320 hectares at Mazumbai campus in Tanga.

"Land use by the university is per its 2005 plan which includes short and long term uses.
"However, the land use plan takes into account the number of students enrolled, degree courses, educational needs, research, farmers training and production of crops," Ms Mahiza said.

In his supplementary question, Mr Masolwa asked what benefits have the country's only agriculture training institution of higher learning brought to the neighbouring villagers at its campuses.

The Minister for Education and Vocational Training, Professor Jumanne Maghembe, said SUA has done studies that benefited its neighbours, the country and region.

"Research results in hybrid maize, beans and rice have benefited the public in general as our farmers have made use of such improved varieties. But SUA has already done a lot in improving livestock breeds," Prof Maghembe said.​

 

[Kindimbajuu]

wajameni msiumize kichwa na masoud wa kipanya,
kama masoud anaweza majamboz, na anafanya majamboz kwa kutumia taaluma aliyosoma atuambie alisomea SUA ipi??? , ile ya hawa wanaofanya kazi benki au anayake?? basi aonyeshe hata ka si vi kake. asiwe kama nyani anayecheka makalio ya kung'ara ya wenzake wakati yake hayaoni

 

[Mvina]

Kama ukisoma kilimo ni lazima ufanye kazi shambani na hawa mainginia wetu viwanda viko wapi?

 

[kuruptkingpin]

Kama ukisoma kilimo ni lazima ufanye kazi shambani na hawa mainginia wetu viwanda viko wapi?

Hizi ni baadhi tu ya research projects zilizopo UDSM:

Kilimo bora na matumizi ya uyoga

Utengenezaji wa cheese na margarine

Kilimo na matumizi ya Aloe vera, mlonge

Usindikaji wa matunda

Cassava processing

Matumizi ya Jatropha kwa biofuels (by bio fools?)

Mchanganuo wa virutubisho kwenye vyakula vya watoto

N.k.

Imagine, hawa "dons" wa udsm wamesomea wapi haya? Mbona SUA ambako wapo nguli wa hizo fani hawalalamiki? Mbaya zaidi, baadhi ya hizo kazi zimefanyika SUA miaka mingi iliyopita

"If you live in a glass house, dont throw stones"

 

[Joste]

Dear all,

This debate reminds me of a similar one we had several years ago at SUA.
Undergraduate training as we provide it at SUA produces an all round
grounded individual able to fit anywhere, even becoming a preacher if one
chooses to!. We train people to be able (to have the competency) to do
certain things not to become yz, which does not exclude agriculture or
farming. Even in developed countries, graduates do not always end up doing
exactly what they were trained to become, in certain fields such as
engineering, many end up becoming computer programmers, I remember Professor
Mbassa having said so then!; computer engineers end becoming managers,
lawyers as politician and in Tanzania erstwhile Doctors ending up as
politicians isn't surprising!!.

It should please every SUA alumni that one employer remarked to me recently
that their company which is spread widely in the most remote regions of this
country prefer to employ SUA graduates to those of a renown local university
for their resilience, competency and hard work spirit. Is this not enough
reason for us to cheer up but not be complacent?
Aluta continua

 

[bm21]

Usually, a 10pages paper or so can be summarised and presented in just one cartoon. In this case interpreting the same need well focused, analytical and with fresh mind guys to comprehend what the cartoonist meant in his/her cartoon. I'm afraid lack of these is what makes this discussion so long and some turning it to a profession and background gymnastic. On the other hand, it's the inefficiencies in the agricultural sector and labour market in general that perhaps propagates the argument in a non productive way. I believe, if the labour market was okay, agricultural sector growing at the right pace the argument would have been different despite that SUA graduates still would have worked in other sectors as Banking, service, etc.

Potentially, I don't see any harm with the cartoon as presented by Masoud Kipanya. There few exceptions which need not to be mixed in this discussion. Medical profession (Veterinary Medicine & Medical Science) in this case can be treated as rare profession where we don't expect people from these profession to work in Banks, etc other than in their field. In my opinion its not right/polite to justify the SUA curricular to work in Banks and other sectors other than Agriculture same was its not polite to argue that SUA graduate should only work in Agricultural sector and not otherwise. We should now be thinking and deliberating on how to stimulate further growth of agricultural sector as a catalyst to spearhead growth of other sectors.

 

[TheChoji]

Huyu anafaa kwenye kitengo cha IT hapo NBC



Kuna tatizo gani huyu akifanya kazi NBC?

Kwe hee hee heee! Kwehe! Kwehe!

 

[kasimba123]

Masoud is not wrong, he is damn right on the money.

Nyie mnaangalia kama ni kuidharau SUA, lakini nitakuambieni kitu kimoja. Masudi wa Kipanya ni MwanaSanaa, na anachokieleza ni kuwa huyu aliyesoma Kilimo, kakosa kazi iwe ni Wizarani au Wilayani kwa kuwa hakuna mpango bora wa kutumia ujuzi na elimu yake na hivyo anaishia kwenda kufanya kazi katika sekta nyingine.

Serikali inalia "Kilimo Kwanza", lakini haitoi ajira kwa Mabwana Shamba wala kuthamini ujuzi na usomi wao, wachilia maoni yao, sasa wafanyeje?

Ndipo wanapochukua kazi nyingine si kwa hiari bali ni kutokana na ukweli kuwa hakuna ajira na wataalamu na fani zao kama Kilimo, Uvuvu, Ufugaji wanapuuzwa na serikali.

Je katika ajira Milioni 1 tulizoahidiwa na Serikali ya awamu ya nne, ni Mabwana/Mabibi Shamba wangapi wanahitajika?

Ikiwa Daktari wa meno Mtwangi kaacha fani na kuanza kujishughulisha na kompyuta kutokana na kutothaminiwa au kutopewa kazi na Wizara mama, je tutamlaumu Masud au Mtwangi?

Mara nyingi huwa wewe na mwanakijiji nafagilia sana michango yenu mnaangaliaga mada kwa macho manne na mkichangia kunakuwa na kitu cha kujifunza. ahsante sana kwani umeeleza nilichokuwa nakifikiria kuchangia hii mada

ahsante sana kwa mchango huu

 

[Mutabora]

Mada hii inanikumbusha ile katuni iliyozua kasheshe barani Ulaya ambayo iliamsha hasira na chuki kutoka kwa wafuasi wa dini moja.Katuni inaweza kuwa na ujumbe zaidi ya mmoja unaweza kutafsiri uwezavyo.Tena msinikumbushe ile katuni ya mwaka 2006 ambayo ilitafsiliwa na wengi kuwa mapaparaza walikuwa wakilamba viatu vya JK kwa kuandika habari za kujipendekeza.BiG uP kIpaNya

 

[kamonga]

Tumkisoma between the lines pengine Masoud kuna ujumbe alitaka toa hapa. tujiulize je ni kweli hao waliomaliza Sua waliopo benki wamesoma agriculture yenye economics?? jibu ni no na si hao tu kuna watu wenye degree za ualimu kule kibao kama bank tellers and the like. tena nina rafiki yangu alisoma "Horticluture" yupo nmb tene ni branch meneja huko mikoani. kwa case kama za ualimu it a two way benefit kwa benki na mhitimu kwasababu huna proffesion ya banking msahara watakao kupa ni "Mdogo" compared na mtu mwenye Bcom and the like. But huo mshara lets assume ni laki 7 nimkubwa sana kama ungefuata proffesion yako ya ualimu ungelipwa laki2 gross. sasa kwanini mtu mwenye degree asiwe benki teller? wakati uhakika wa maisha upo? kuliko uende sumbawanga kufundisha na mshahara usije hata miezi sita. ujumbe huu ni muhimu kwa serikali waongeze maslahi ktk ajira watu wakatumikie proffesion zao...

 

[Bajabiri]

WEwe umekomea wapi! na unakipi cha kujivunia...kama kweli amekomea F3 basi jamaa kichwa ni mbunifu kuliko hata walio na Elimu ya juu zaidi yake kutwa..

wewe ndo umesema,masoud ni mbunifu japo hajasoma sana,lakini ukiangalia katun zake akili itakusimama,hebu mtu apitie,kipanya.co.tz aone katuni zake ambazo wahariri wamezikataa,ndipo utaamini kuwa how creative he is,pita pale kijitonyama LAPF MILENIUM TOWER,duka lake ameliandika KP Shop-nothing but KONFIDENCE,hyo K haijakosewa ndo hvyohvyo hakuweka CONFIDENCE kwa sababu zake,kujituma ndo kumemfikisha hapo,elim

 

[Navoyne]

Dear all,

This debate reminds me of a similar one we had several years ago at SUA.
Undergraduate training as we provide it at SUA produces an all round
grounded individual able to fit anywhere, even becoming a preacher if one
chooses to!. We train people to be able (to have the competency) to do
certain things not to become yz, which does not exclude agriculture or
farming. Even in developed countries, graduates do not always end up doing
exactly what they were trained to become, in certain fields such as
engineering, many end up becoming computer programmers, I remember Professor
Mbassa having said so then!; computer engineers end becoming managers,
lawyers as politician and in Tanzania erstwhile Doctors ending up as
politicians isn't surprising!!.

It should please every SUA alumni that one employer remarked to me recently
that their company which is spread widely in the most remote regions of this
country prefer to employ SUA graduates to those of a renown local university
for their resilience, competency and hard work spirit. Is this not enough
reason for us to cheer up but not be complacent?
Aluta continua

The main purpose of the debate is to boost your morale towards your studies at university,most of people back then saw agriculture as failing sector and student were afraid to become losers as a result of studying agriculture.
Due to that the university come up with new courses and approach which will allow the graduate to be competent in the workforce,many of the student in SUA study there as they are last resort and not that their want to study agriculture thus there such mentality.

 

[Akiri]

Masoud kipanya, recently posted a cartoon, depicting a SUA graduate working in bank with a line saying "Hii ndio Bongo, nimemaliza chuo kikuu cha kilimo cha sokoine lakini niko kaunta benki", a statement of the sort. Masoud, like many Tanzanians, are ignorant of the curriculum, even degree programs offered at SUA. The original BSc Agriculture of SUA offered in 1980s, had specialisations and final year students used to specialise in different fields including Agricultural Economics. People like Prof. Anna Tibaijuka graduated from SUA with BSc Agriculture with specialisation in economics and today she is leading UNHABITAT. Since the 1990s SUA has been a dgree of MSc. in Agricultural Economics. Recently, SUA started degree programs in Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness and an MBA with biase to agriculture. My dear Masoud agriculture is a sector, not farming. The degree of agriculture offered by SUA considers all components of agriculture, from engineering, economics, communication, processing etc.
Being a graduate of SUA does not mean that you are committed to a farm or the likes. Even more, people have natural talents. Masoud never attended a university offering a degree in "cartoonology", but he is doing fine with his toons. Likewise, Tracy chapman has a degree in Agriculture but chose the music career. One of the best music producers in Tanzania Hermes B, is graduate of SUA. Do you remember Prof Madundo Mtambo, a man who shocked Simba SC in the 1980s? A SUA graduate. Graduates of SUA have prospered in different fields (not just banking) including politics where you have people like Prof. Msolla, David Mathayo, Hawa Ghasia, Jumanne Maghembe etc.
The secret is, financial institutions that employ student from SUA are impressed by their perfomances, and thats not just CRDB. PRIDE Tanzania is proud os SUA graduates, so is FINCA and NMB. Afterall, all those people employed in Tanzanian banks are not graduates of BCom, or finance, or Banking. Most of them have degrees and they undergo inhouse training. The best ones prosper, like the SUA graduate you see behind the counter. Be warned that SUA graduates are doing fine in agriculture itself. A good example is Shambani graduates, a company formed and owned by young SUA graduates. I dont believe that Masoud's father-in-law has a degree in agriculture? I gues he own farmms in Mbeya...au hii ndio Bongo?

punguza jazba kaka unaongea kana kwamba wewe ndio mmiliki wa SUA kipanya ni msaanii kachukulia sua kama mfano wa watu ambao wanasomea hiki lakini wanafanya kile . na kwa hapo bongo ni kawaida sana hope hata wewe umesomea udogo pale SUA but now unauza duka la mhindi. hii ndio bongo

 

[TUJITEGEMEE]

"kuruptkingpin" yupo sahihi "kipanya" kakosea jinsi alivyomtumia '''SUA graduate''' kwenye katuni yake. kama alitaka kuonyesha kwa usahihi 'misallocation of human resource' katika mfumo wa serikali angetumia mfano wa "Graduate wa Chuo Cha Fedha-IFM" kuwa daktari wa meno Muhimbili.

 

[kabindi]

Nadhani maana harisi ya kuwa na proffesinal ya Finance/Agriculture economics katika vyuo vya kilimo ni kuwatumia wataalamu hao katika biashara itokanayo na mazao ya mashambani! wawe planers na kuleta msukumo kilimo cha biahashara. Si lazima waajriwe, wanaweza pia kujiajiri kwa kuwa wanaweza kuwa wanasoma pia na entepreneurship skills katika masomo yao! BADO HAITOI TASWIRA SAHII KWA GRADUATE KUWA CASHIER kazi ambayo anaweza fanya ata mtu wa form Six akipewa internal training. Bado tunahitaji mapinduzi katika Kilimo, tuwe na Banks za wakulima, wataalamu wachanganuzi wa miradi ya kilimo kwa wakulima ili wajue wakilima ekari moja kwa gharama kiasi fulani watapata faida kiasi fulani! OTHERWISE SIJAONA MCHANGO MADHUBUTI WA SUA KATIKA MAPINDUZI YA KILIMO! kwa Kiasi kikubwa MSIMBEZE MASOUD maana He doesn't feel WAT you proud of!!!

 

[Sumba-Wanga]

I happen to search something on google and come across this this head.
In few words, I would say this was one of the best analysis on SUA

Masoud kipanya, recently posted a cartoon, depicting a SUA graduate working in bank with a line saying "Hii ndio Bongo, nimemaliza chuo kikuu cha kilimo cha sokoine lakini niko kaunta benki", a statement of the sort. Masoud, like many Tanzanians, are ignorant of the curriculum, even degree programs offered at SUA. The original BSc Agriculture of SUA offered in 1980s, had specialisations and final year students used to specialise in different fields including Agricultural Economics. People like Prof. Anna Tibaijuka graduated from SUA with BSc Agriculture with specialisation in economics and today she is leading UNHABITAT. Since the 1990s SUA has been a dgree of MSc. in Agricultural Economics. Recently, SUA started degree programs in Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness and an MBA with biase to agriculture. My dear Masoud agriculture is a sector, not farming. The degree of agriculture offered by SUA considers all components of agriculture, from engineering, economics, communication, processing etc.
Being a graduate of SUA does not mean that you are committed to a farm or the likes. Even more, people have natural talents. Masoud never attended a university offering a degree in "cartoonology", but he is doing fine with his toons. Likewise, Tracy chapman has a degree in Agriculture but chose the music career. One of the best music producers in Tanzania Hermes B, is graduate of SUA. Do you remember Prof Madundo Mtambo, a man who shocked Simba SC in the 1980s? A SUA graduate. Graduates of SUA have prospered in different fields (not just banking) including politics where you have people like Prof. Msolla, David Mathayo, Hawa Ghasia, Jumanne Maghembe etc.
The secret is, financial institutions that employ student from SUA are impressed by their perfomances, and thats not just CRDB. PRIDE Tanzania is proud os SUA graduates, so is FINCA and NMB. Afterall, all those people employed in Tanzanian banks are not graduates of BCom, or finance, or Banking. Most of them have degrees and they undergo inhouse training. The best ones prosper, like the SUA graduate you see behind the counter. Be warned that SUA graduates are doing fine in agriculture itself. A good example is Shambani graduates, a company formed and owned by young SUA graduates. I dont believe that Masoud's father-in-law has a degree in agriculture? I gues he own farmms in Mbeya...au hii ndio Bongo?

 

[124 Ali]

They say if you live in a glasshouse, don't throw stones.

Masoud Kipanya yeye mwenyewe ame graduate university gani?

Kwani umeambiwa kipanya anajinasibu na usomi wenu fake? yeye ameonesha vile jicho la sanaa lionavyo, tafsiri ni zenu na kila mtu ana tafsiri yake!

 

[mandella]

Masoud kipanya, recently posted a cartoon, depicting a SUA graduate working in bank with a line saying "Hii ndio Bongo, nimemaliza chuo kikuu cha kilimo cha sokoine lakini niko kaunta benki", a statement of the sort. Masoud, like many Tanzanians, are ignorant of the curriculum, even degree programs offered at SUA. The original BSc Agriculture of SUA offered in 1980s, had specialisations and final year students used to specialise in different fields including Agricultural Economics. People like Prof. Anna Tibaijuka graduated from SUA with BSc Agriculture with specialisation in economics and today she is leading UNHABITAT. Since the 1990s SUA has been a dgree of MSc. in Agricultural Economics. Recently, SUA started degree programs in Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness and an MBA with biase to agriculture. My dear Masoud agriculture is a sector, not farming. The degree of agriculture offered by SUA considers all components of agriculture, from engineering, economics, communication, processing etc.
Being a graduate of SUA does not mean that you are committed to a farm or the likes. Even more, people have natural talents. Masoud never attended a university offering a degree in "cartoonology", but he is doing fine with his toons. Likewise, Tracy chapman has a degree in Agriculture but chose the music career. One of the best music producers in Tanzania Hermes B, is graduate of SUA. Do you remember Prof Madundo Mtambo, a man who shocked Simba SC in the 1980s? A SUA graduate. Graduates of SUA have prospered in different fields (not just banking) including politics where you have people like Prof. Msolla, David Mathayo, Hawa Ghasia, Jumanne Maghembe etc.
The secret is, financial institutions that employ student from SUA are impressed by their perfomances, and thats not just CRDB. PRIDE Tanzania is proud os SUA graduates, so is FINCA and NMB. Afterall, all those people employed in Tanzanian banks are not graduates of BCom, or finance, or Banking. Most of them have degrees and they undergo inhouse training. The best ones prosper, like the SUA graduate you see behind the counter. Be warned that SUA graduates are doing fine in agriculture itself. A good example is Shambani graduates, a company formed and owned by young SUA graduates. I dont believe that Masoud's father-in-law has a degree in agriculture? I gues he own farmms in Mbeya...au hii ndio Bongo?

Kwa bahati mbaya hujaambatanisha Cartoon aliyoweka Kipanya as Reffernce..
Ila kama alchokisema Masoud ndicho ulichoandika ,, basi Critism ulizozitoa ni za kweli kabisa. Nimependa sana jinsi ulivyoweza kuandika kwa Mifano ,pamaoja na kumtolea Mfano yeye mwenyewe na hata Mzazi wake .
Ni kweli kabisa SUA kimeoneka kikitoa wa2 wengi kuliko vyuo vingine , na ni kutokana na Ufanisi wa waliopo kwnye Soko kufanya Kazi kwa uwezo wa juu kabisa.
Kuhusina na Proffesional ,Masud ungerudi tenna chuoni hapo Na kuchunguaza kwa Makini Coz wanazozitoa Pamoja na Chuo kishiriki chake kinachotoa 99% ya coz zake kwnye mambo ya finance.
Masoud Cartoon unaweza , ila jitahidi kuchora vitu baada ya kuchunguza . Take it as a challenge.. "
Big Up sana kwa Kazi zako nyingi nzuri unazozitoa .. Endelea kukaza Kamba .

 

[piper]

Masudi mwenyewe naskia kaishia form 3 kwahiyo vitu complex kama hivi ni vigumu kuvielewa.

Msameheni bure, mambo hayo ayajulia wapi?