‘Kikwete’s remarks on FDLR shocking’

‘Kikwete’s remarks on FDLR shocking’

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Mushikiwabo says President Kikwete could be just another sympathiser for the group whose ideology is still being fought in Rwanda and worldwide.

Remarks made by President Jakaya Kikwete on the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) rebels have been described as “aberrant” and “shocking”.

The Tanzanian President suggested - during an AU summit on Sunday in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia - that Kigali should negotiate with the Congo-based rebels. The Summit tackled security issues on the continent, including instability in eastern DR Congo.

But in an interview with Radio France Internationale (RFI) on Monday, Rwanda’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Louise Mushikiwabo said Rwanda will not consider negotiating with people who are responsible for the 1994 Genocide against Tutsi.

“Those who think that Rwanda today should sit down at the negotiating table with FDLR simply don’t know what they are talking about,” she said adding that it is unfortunate that the rebel group has sympathisers in the region, including President Kikwete himself, should he not retract his comments.

Mushikiwabo told the French broadcaster that she did not expect President Kikwete to suggest that Rwanda negotiate with known terrorists since he has served as a foreign affairs minister for his country and knows the FDLR background.

Minister Mushikiwabo pointed out that President Kikwete could be just another sympathiser for the group whose ideology is still being fought in Rwanda and worldwide.

“There are many spokespeople for the FDLR. Some are ideologically aligned to the FDLR. We stopped the Genocide but we didn’t stop the ideology,” she added.

The FDLR is made up of members who are largely responsible for the 1994 Genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda. The group, named by the UN as a terrorist organisation, has been involved in creating instability in eastern Congo along with several armed militia roaming in the region and it attacked Rwanda twice last year, killing two people.

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At the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the African Union- celebrated last weekend in Addis Ababa, a meeting involving parties concerned by the Addis Ababa Peace, Security, and Cooperation Framework for the Democratic Republic of Congo and the region signed in February was held, during which President Kikwete called for all-encompassing talks with belligerents in the Congo.

He reportedly told participants at the meeting, including Rwandan and Ugandan Presidents Paul Kagame and Yoweri Museveni, that the recently deployed UN brigade will only be able to help temporarily, essentially calling for all the concerned parties to enter into talks with rebels.

The Tanzanian President suggested that Rwanda engages in direct talks with the FDLR and that the President Museveni holds talks with the rebels from the Allied Democratic Forces-National Army for the Liberation of Uganda (ADF-NALU) that is opposed to his government.

Several experts and analysts in Rwanda reacted to Kikwete’s comments with condemnation.

Professor Pierre Rwanyindo, Director of the Kigali-based Institute of Research and Dialogue for Peace (IRDP) told The New Times yesterday that negotiations with the FDLR are simply impossible and Kikwete seems to “ignore the history”.

“He (Kikwete) should first ask himself how FDLR ended up in Congo since they are not Congolese. The Rwandan government encourages all Rwandan refugees to return home, but the FDLR just want to attack Rwanda because of the crimes they committed during the 1994 Genocide against the Tutsi,” Rwanyindo said.

Insult to Rwandans


The Chairperson of Parliament’s Foreign Affairs committee, MP Gideon Kayinamura, also said negotiating with the FDLR is insulting.

“You just don’t enter into negotiations with genocidaires. It’s an insult on Rwandans,” he said.

Alice Umutoni, a survivor of the 1994 Genocide against the Tutsi said that as Tanzania’s President, Kikwete should know better.

“Given that the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) is based in Tanzania, we have no doubt that President Kikwete has been following the court proceedings and should comprehend the threat posed by the FDLR to Rwanda’s and the region’s peace and security,” Umutoni said.

Last month, the United States renewed its staked $5 million (about Rwf3.2 billion) for information leading to the arrest, transfer and conviction of FDLR’s leader Sylvestre Mudacumura.




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It's just disappointing to hear such from a head of an African country. Some,I say "some" foreigners can atter misleading ideas to Africans because we're almost none of their business. But for Africans,...Anyway,this shows that there is a long way to go in strengthening African unity in the real sense of UNITY.

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05:07:49 Wednesday 29th, May 2013 Paris - Ndikumana Amin
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Which school of thought does Kikwete come from? No wonder all i know from trusted sources is that most of kabila's business is based in Dar under the mgt of kikwete's son! but thats non of our business though he should also leave us alone and mind his own bss.shame!

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07:51:54 Wednesday 29th, May 2013 kigali - gabriel
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I imagine pan African Tanzanians who unseated Amin of Uganda, liberated Zimbabwe, supported ANC to end Apartheid still believe there is more to do to end genocide on African Continent and elsewhere we cannot by any point of imagination think or support genocidal forces! Our fallen combatants who made their blood would be wasted!

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07:57:56 Wednesday 29th, May 2013 Musoma, TZ - Kweli
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It would hold some meaning if the request was from either party. Let Tanzania be reminded that FDLR have been allowed to go home peacefully but DRC and its allies keep on blocking the deal by sheltering them. I would advise Kikwete to put much emphasis on prosecuting the FDLR/Genocidaires and their repatriation globally than suggest the impossible.

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07:59:53 Wednesday 29th, May 2013 Kicukiro - Mulisa Emmanuel
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perhaps he kikwete thinks the way his govt used to chase banyarwanda,burn there houses,eat there animals ,can as well use that pride to manupilate the kigali govt- he is mistaken

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08:18:12 Wednesday 29th, May 2013 kigali - john
 
I am not suprised about this!

Which school of thought does Kikwete come from? No wonder all i know from trusted sources is that most of kabila's business is based in Dar under the mgt of kikwete's son! but thats non of our business though he should also leave us alone and mind his own bss.shame!
 
Internationally, I will support my own; will screw him whenhe comes home.
If Kikwete falls, we fall with him.(ukweli mchungu)

 
Kikwete is a disgrace to all Tanzanians. I am ashamed to call myself a Tanzanian after such unwarranted remarks by someone in the High Office. Seriously I have never been impressed by any of his speeches, given locally or internationally. Not only that he is ill-advised, it seems he has no idea at all of what is going on in both local and international politics. He attends these summits only to show his 'smiling face' and collect the allowances that come with them. I am yet to read even a single 'paper' be it a seminar paper, an article, a book or a dissertation, to make me believe that we have a competent leader who can represent a learned perspective in international matters.

For a leader who fails to address even local issues such as tensions about religion and the right to slaughter, whereas we have a clause in the constitution that speculates exactly the government's stand on religion, how can he start telling the Rwandese how to deal with a bigger crisis? And he proudly calls himself Dr! Shame on him and on all those who sing his praise...
 
A new low.....i think our dear leader uwa hapimi mawazo yake kabla hajayatoa anayapimia kupitia reaction ya watu
 
kagame and his fellow blood suckers will fool some people sometimes but not all the people all the the times. they planned and perfomed genocides only to turn it to their relatives(hutu), they would rather understand that had Habyarimana accepted a dialogue with tutsi people early. rwandees wouldnt have suffered this much. wacha waendelee kudanganya dunia na waendelee kuwanyima haki wanyarwanda wenzao, mwisho wa kagame and his fellows ni mbaya, bora a seek reconsiliation mapema
 
nimeona baadhi ya waliocomment wanagusia suala la kufukuzwa Wanyarwanda kule Kagera na kiasi fulani Kigoma. Hii inaanza kunipa mashaka maana tumekalia visingizio vya 'washahuri wanampoteza' na sasa inaanza kuvuka mipaka kitu kinachoweza kupelekea 'unrest' nyingine mkoani kwetu! Mungu tunasuru na janga hili!
 
Kikwete was right there.sema tu kwamba hao jirani zetu si watu wakuelewa na ni wabaguzi.kilichopo hapo ni hao fdlr kurudi rwanda by force na itakua another genocide.
Kitu ambacho Rwanda govt hawataki kusikia.
 
kagame and his fellow blood suckers will fool some people sometimes but not all the people all the the times. they planned and perfomed genocides only to turn it to their relatives(hutu), they would rather understand that had Habyarimana accepted a dialogue with tutsi people early. rwandees wouldnt have suffered this much. wacha waendelee kudanganya dunia na waendelee kuwanyima haki wanyarwanda wenzao, mwisho wa kagame and his fellows ni mbaya, bora a seek reconsiliation mapema

I don't argue on whether or not Kagame and his Tutsi followers were behind the genocide in Rwanda that left many dead and lots mnore displaced across the world. What I don't agree is for jk to suggest to the Rwandese on the matter. His argument that 'dialogue' is the way forward leaves a lot to question especially coming from a 'weak' leader like himself who does not want to discuss anything with anyone inside his own country. Who is forcing the Masai to vacate their land for the sake of 'investors'. Who wants to 'silence' the people of Mtwara just for airing their misgivings about the building of the gas pipe? Since when has jk himself listened to anyone else? He has never listened to grievances by the doctors, teachers, EAC retirees etc. After mass failures of students in our Secondary schools, did he listen to reason, no. Instead he orders his 'humble servant' the PM to set up a Commision to find out the causes of mass failures... as if he does not know.

For someone who does not even know why Tanzanians are poor while our country is endowed with such riches, who does he think he is to tell other people what to do? He should keep his mouth shut and take care of his own mess first!!!
 
Hivi hawa wapuuzi walitegemea Kikwete aseme nini? Wapigeni vita mpaka watokomee duniani?

Waungwana hawakatai mazungumzo, hukataa kizungumzwacho.

Huyu Kagame si ndiye aliuebariki gacaca system kwao? Leo unafiki gani huu eti hawawezi kuongea na genocidaire. Kila mtu angesema hivyo sakata lingeibuka upya kila mwaka.

Na inaonekana mwakani katiba inavunjwa (term limits) au kitanuka tena.
 
A new low.....i think our dear uwa hapimi mawazo yake kabla hajayatoa anayapimia kupitia reaction ya watu

Alikwisha waambia kuwa URAIS ni mambo ya familia,hivyo maamuzi yake yanaongozwa na interests za familia yake na sio interests za nchi na ndio maana msimamo wake juu ya DRC ni kumlinda Kabila kwani ni mshirika wa familia yake kibiashara!! We have a THIEVING President hence we cannot be safe; ndio maana hajishuhulishi na kurudisha fedha walizotuibia toka Uswisi.!!!!
 
Yes, FDLR is a sensitive topic for Rwanda, and JK overlooked that sensitivity. However, this woman Mushikiwabo, how could she use such language against a foreign leader? Where is diplomacy? Where is respect? How could she call JK a spokesperson of FDLR? I think Rwanda is run by a bunch of brainless people masquareding themselves as diplomats and politicians. I remember how they disparaged French leaders in the aftermath of the indictments. Please Louise, learn to respect others, and such issues could be discussed in appropriate fora
 
Kikwete himself has failed to lead his country to solve the problems they have Tanzanians today he stepped things out of this is nonsense. People killed uselessly by his government to send police, they provided the nails, they pierced eyes, remain hospitalized are nasty, schools do not have resources, water problems all corner of the country for 52 years. He provides breaking wind in front, that is until I see the shame of being Tanzanian
 
tafsiri nyingine ya kibaguzi, sioni ubaya katika hili alilosema Kikwete, inanipa mashaka na huzuni kumuona mtanzania akimpinga raisi wake kwa nguvu kwa jambo la kipuuzi kama hili
 
Hello Forum members, I am told that Kikwete made very strong comments in either 1994 or earlier while the war between RPF rebels at the time and Habyarimana's govt was ongoing. He apparently said: Awo wa Hutu, tuwape siraha wawapige..." The comments were made to the media. Essentially trying to say that the government should be given as much support to crash the rebels. Am wondering whether Kikwete's thinking about the current govt in Kigali is not influenced by his previous stance. If anybody has idea about this comment and how I can get it, please just link it up to me.
 
Hahaha Kagame anaanza kuni dissapoint!

Huyu jamaa amekalia kiti muda wote hata demokrasia kwao hamna. Aaachie demokrasia kwanza kama hataki uasi ndani ya nchi yake. Vinginevyo nasema I support JK 100% hata Obama huyo waliyemuandikia akienda Rwanda atawaambia kwamba Dialogue, dialogue, dialogue and democracy ndio key ya kuondoa hizi unrest za kila siku. Inawezekana Kagame rais mzuri ila kushindwa kwake kuweka demokrasia ya kweli ndio kutam cost!
 
Kikwete is a disgrace to all Tanzanians. I am ashamed to call myself a Tanzanian after such unwarranted remarks by someone in the High Office. Seriously I have never been impressed by any of his speeches, given locally or internationally. Not only that he is ill-advised, it seems he has no idea at all of what is going on in both local and international politics. He attends these summits only to show his 'smiling face' and collect the allowances that come with them. I am yet to read even a single 'paper' be it a seminar paper, an article, a book or a dissertation, to make me believe that we have a competent leader who can represent a learned perspective in international matters.

For a leader who fails to address even local issues such as tensions about religion and the right to slaughter, whereas we have a clause in the constitution that speculates exactly the government's stand on religion, how can he start telling the Rwandese how to deal with a bigger crisis? And he proudly calls himself Dr! Shame on him and on all those who sing his praise...

I think you are being unfair to Bw.Kikwete, because he is the product of our environment, we (TZ) are all like him, he is us, so whatever he says or does is a reminder of who we really are.
And the word competent is relative, he might not seem to be competent outside TZ but to us is more than competent and thats why we elected him and not only once but twice and i can guarantee you If they will ever be a possibility for him to run for the 3rd time we will elect him again, and why? because he is US, we see more US in him!

 
JK katoa mawazo yake kwa hiyo walitakaje? After all yeye sio Mnyarwanda na ametoa neutral comments kwa hiyo wasimhukumu.
 
Juzi Kagame alipohojiwa na BBC alisisitiza kuwa mazungumzo ya amani yapewe nafasi badala ya nguvu za kijeshi. Alimaanisha Tz itoe nafasi kwa M23 waongee na Kabila kwanza, wasipoelewana ndo walazimishwe kijeshi. Cha kushangaza anapoambiwa aongee na wabaya wake FDLR kabla haijaamuliwa nao wadundwe wasipoelewana, nakuja juu.

Unafiki mkubwa!
 
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