Kagame Rubbishes Hollande’s ‘Condescending’ Letter

Kagame Rubbishes Hollande’s ‘Condescending’ Letter

I respectfully disagree, the definition of a diplomat in this case isn't ambiguous at all and Karake isn't one.
Bongolander, reasoning clouded by hatred is what you are witnessing above. Coz unless this interahamwe who claims he/she is a tanzanian is actually a Rwandese who worked in Rwanda he/she wouldn't know anything about the diplomatic status of KK....waingereza wenyewe wamekiri kuwa he's got diplomatic immunity who is this dimwit to say that he is not.
 
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I respectfully disagree, the definition of a diplomat in this case isn't ambiguous at all and Karake isn't one.

lol! very stupid jMali... I wonder why those little Interahamwe still listen/follow you! Rwandan government says he is a diplomat and had a diplomatic passport, went to UK on invitation by top UK MI6 officials to discuss some of the sensitive issues before he was stopped and arrested by those red necks! again, guess what... a diplomatic passport is used by diplomats jMali
 
lol! very stupid jMali... I wonder why those little Interahamwe still listen/follow you! Rwandan government says he is a diplomat and had a diplomatic passport, went to UK on invitation by top UK MI6 officials to discuss some of the sensitive issues before he was stopped and arrested by those red necks! again, guess what... a diplomatic passport is used by diplomats jMali

kwani hajui...ana ugonjwa wa selective memory...lakini kama His Exellence alivyosema, its good that it happened to us. Apart from the humiliation to our leaders, this will be like the Rose Kabuye case.
 
Bongolander, reasoning clouded by hatred is what you are witnessing above. Coz unless this interahamwe who claims he/she is a tanzanian is actually a Rwandese who worked in Rwanda he/she wouldn't know anything about the diplomatic status of KK....waingereza wenyewe wamekiri kuwa he's got diplomatic immunity who is this dimwit to say that he is not.

Nimemsikiliza PK tena na tena, although he sounded emotional, what he said is naked truth. And in this long haul i am with him and with Rwandese people 200%....My stand is always against murder regardless of who commits it, but punishing "murderers" in a selective way is as equal as murder itself. Kama kweli lengo lao sio racism wangekamata wauaji wengi tu.....i see something like personal hatred towards Rwandese people...washenz! wakubwa hawa.
 
Nimemsikiliza PK tena na tena, although he sounded emotional, what he said is naked truth. And in this long haul i am with him and with Rwandese people 200%....My stand is always against murder regardless of who commits it, but punishing "murderers" in a selective way is as equal as murder itself. Kama kweli lengo lao sio racism wangekamata wauaji wengi tu.....i see something like personal hatred towards Rwandese people...washenz! wakubwa hawa.

[h=1]France to award Moroccan spy chief Legion of Honour despite torture accusations[/h]
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French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve (R) with Moorocco's Mohamed Hassad on SaturdayAFP




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France is awarding its highest award the Legion of Honour, to the head of Morocco's secret services, Abdellatif Hammouchi, who will receive the distinction despite facing lawsuits here over alleged torture.
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French judicial authorities had tried to question Hammouchi a year ago about the allegations while he was visiting Paris, a move that prompted Morocco to suspend legal ties with France.
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They were only resumed this month after a freeze that last nearly a year.
Moroccan and international human rights organisations have accused Morocco's domestic intelligence, the DGST, of torturing activists and terrorism suspects.
But French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said in the Moroccan capital of Rabat on Saturday that France was trying to show its respect to Hammouchi by awarding him the Legion of Honour.
Mohamed Jaite, the general secretary of the Moroccan Association for Human Rights in Paris, said this designation would encourage the continued use of torture.
"There were victims who filed charges against Hammouchi for having played a personal role in torturing them," he told RFI. "From the point of view of the victims, I think it is scandalous. It's also an encouragement for the Moroccan authorities to commit torture and do what ever it takes to achieve their means in conjunction with the French government."
Cazeneuve on Saturday praised Morocco's "efficiency" and "expertise" in the "exchange of intelligence", describing the kingdom as a "key partner" to France.
The DGST plays a "decisive role in cooperation against terrorism", he said at a joint press conference with his Moroccan counterpart Mohamed Hassad.

 
Nimemsikiliza PK tena na tena, although he sounded emotional, what he said is naked truth. And in this long haul i am with him and with Rwandese people 200%....My stand is always against murder regardless of who commits it, but punishing "murderers" in a selective way is as equal as murder itself. Kama kweli lengo lao sio racism wangekamata wauaji wengi tu.....i see something like personal hatred towards Rwandese people...washenz! wakubwa hawa.

Hebu nisaidie hili: Mwaka jana Ujerumani ilikamata FDLR members wawili na kuwashitaki kwa makosa yaliyofanywa DRC. Je kwa maoni yako was this racism also?
 
Hebu nisaidie hili: Mwaka jana Ujerumani ilikamata FDLR members wawili na kuwashitaki kwa makosa yaliyofanywa DRC. Je kwa maoni yako was this racism also?
no, not at all! and you know this... wameongoza kikundi cha watu wauwaji, wabakaji na wabaguzi wa kikabila, tabia yao hiyo ndio inayowafanya wa qualify kuitwa Genociders! ushahidi wa kuwanyonga au kuwafungisha upo na hadi leo wafuasi wenu bado wanaendeleza jadi kule kwenye misitu ya DRC...
 
Hebu nisaidie hili: Mwaka jana Ujerumani ilikamata FDLR members wawili na kuwashitaki kwa makosa yaliyofanywa DRC. Je kwa maoni yako was this racism also?

Yes it is racism, if others who committed similar crimes were left to wander in Germany freely. Unajua kama kweli ni suala ni muuaji, walihusika na mauaji duniani wanajulikana. Kwanini Putin na wenzake hawakamwti kwa kuua watu Ukraine> au kwanini Netanyahu hakamatwi kwa mauaji ya Gaza, ila FDLR akamatwe kwa mauaji ya DRC...racism tu. I may be wrong, but unless they say it is selective justice.
 
Nimemsikiliza PK tena na tena, although he sounded emotional, what he said is naked truth. And in this long haul i am with him and with Rwandese people 200%....My stand is always against murder regardless of who commits it, but punishing "murderers" in a selective way is as equal as murder itself. Kama kweli lengo lao sio racism wangekamata wauaji wengi tu.....i see something like personal hatred towards Rwandese people...washenz! wakubwa hawa.

read jMali
 
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Yes it is racism, if others who committed similar crimes were left to wander in Germany freely. Unajua kama kweli ni suala ni muuaji, walihusika na mauaji duniani wanajulikana. Kwanini Putin na wenzake hawakamwti kwa kuua watu Ukraine> au kwanini Netanyahu hakamatwi kwa mauaji ya Gaza, ila FDLR akamatwe kwa mauaji ya DRC...racism tu. I may be wrong, but unless they say it is selective justice.

Asante. Wasiwasi wangu ulikuwa ni huu. Mgogoro wa Rwanda una pande mbili, endapo hukusema upande mmoja kukamatwa ni racism, inatia shaka kwa nini kabila lingine likikamatwa useme racism. Asante kwa ufafanuzi wako.
 
Asante. Wasiwasi wangu ulikuwa ni huu. Mgogoro wa Rwanda una pande mbili, endapo hukusema upande mmoja kukamatwa ni racism, inatia shaka kwa nini kabila lingine likikamatwa useme racism. Asante kwa ufafanuzi wako.
we acha kutapatapa! it depends jMali! nyie mliuwa mchana kweupe, ushahidi upo wa kutosha! mngekua na akili za kutosha mngekimbilia kwa Raisi Kagame kwani yeye ndio huwa anawasamehe mpaka wananchi tunashikwa na hasira... huko nje ogopa sana, picha zenu za wakati ule mkichinja wananchi wenzenu zimetapakaa kote
 
we acha kutapatapa! it depends jMali! nyie mliuwa mchana kweupe, ushahidi upo wa kutosha! mngekua na akili za kutosha mngekimbilia kwa Raisi Kagame kwani yeye ndio huwa anawasamehe mpaka wananchi tunashikwa na hasira... huko nje ogopa sana, picha zenu za wakati ule mkichinja wananchi wenzenu zimetapakaa kote
Najifunza kitu hapa. Kumbe it's better kuua 'usiku wa giza' ili kukwepa mkono wa sheria!!
 
jMali, wasomi gani hao unaopigia kelele? Mbona walishindwa hata kuwasaidia kimawazo muache kuchinja watu wasio na hatia? Wasomi gani hao walioacha mji mkuu wa nchi yao (Kigali) ufanane na Kibondo kwa kina motochini kwenye kila jambo ukiacha mauaji?

JMali tuwe wakweli wasomi wetu hawawezi kusikilizwa na wanasiasa kwa sababu mifumo haisemi wala katiba haisemi. Ni wapi katiba yetu inamtaka kuheshimu maoni na mawazo au ushauri wa wanazuoni? Matokeo yake miswada ya dharura kwa maslahi ya nani? Mikataba inasainiwa kwenye ndege baada ya kujenga kumbi kwa gharama kubwa na kuwapa wakandarasi wa nje eti wanaweza kujenga vizuri zaidi....wanasiasa wetu hawaheshimu wasomi na kama ningekuwa mmoja wa wasomi nami nisingewaheshimu wanasiasa wetu...ila ujiandae kupata style ya Mabwepande...mi sipo wala simo ila si rahisi kuwashawishi kwa hoja wanasiasa wa afrika yetu ya leo. Mbunge ajue kusoma na kuandika, diwani ajue kusoma na kuandika, waziri hatuna haja ya kuwa na elimu hata deploma tu inatosha kuwa waziri wa fedha...nani atashauri mtu wa hivo?????? Wasomi hawajapewa fursa (academic freedom) kama waliyonayo wale wa upande tunaoiita ulioendelea
 
Wewe unaongea haujuwi hata yanayotendenka uwanjani,Tz imejalibu kila iwezekanavyo imeshindwa,tumewakuta huko kote tumewasaka natunao hapa na wanatupa habari zoooooote za huyo kikwete, wewe uko kenye mbege na computer unafundishwa kutumia eti TAJJETT,TAJJETT,TAJJETT!!!!!!wakata ikilipuka labda ujifiche huko chooni kwa mjomba wako!!!.
 
Jamani tuseme ukweli,Watanzania mnajuwa fika pale mlivyoenda Kumsaidia Kabila wa kwanza Kipigo mlichokipata cha wanyarwanda kule Rubumbashi jaapo iliwekwa sili mi nilikuwepo!!, juzi tu mnajigamba kuwapiga M23 wakati hamkuingia hata uwanja wa mapambano,naona mtabakia kuongea Kiswahili,Taifa kubwa na Vita ya Idiamini tuu!!!poleni japo nawapenda.
 
JMali tuwe wakweli wasomi wetu hawawezi kusikilizwa na wanasiasa kwa sababu mifumo haisemi wala katiba haisemi. Ni wapi katiba yetu inamtaka kuheshimu maoni na mawazo au ushauri wa wanazuoni? Matokeo yake miswada ya dharura kwa maslahi ya nani? Mikataba inasainiwa kwenye ndege baada ya kujenga kumbi kwa gharama kubwa na kuwapa wakandarasi wa nje eti wanaweza kujenga vizuri zaidi....wanasiasa wetu hawaheshimu wasomi na kama ningekuwa mmoja wa wasomi nami nisingewaheshimu wanasiasa wetu...ila ujiandae kupata style ya Mabwepande...mi sipo wala simo ila si rahisi kuwashawishi kwa hoja wanasiasa wa afrika yetu ya leo. Mbunge ajue kusoma na kuandika, diwani ajue kusoma na kuandika, waziri hatuna haja ya kuwa na elimu hata deploma tu inatosha kuwa waziri wa fedha...nani atashauri mtu wa hivo?????? Wasomi hawajapewa fursa (academic freedom) kama waliyonayo wale wa upande tunaoiita ulioendelea

Mkuu nahisi mjadala umeudandia kati kati. Kuhusu hoja zako juu ya wasomi tuko pamoja nakubaliana na wewe 100%, lakini nakushauri uanze kusoma mwanzo wa mjadala ili ujue mjadala wa wasomi uko kwenye context gani. asante.
 
ww hauwezi hata kuongoza ndugu zako huko ufichoni unabakia kumtukana shujaa aliekomboa inchi ??ulimi kweli hauna mfupa.
 
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