January Makamba and CCM finally admit failure

[Ben Saanane]

In my humble opinion Tanzania as a Nation is not a failed State for numerous reasons, rather our Leaders as far back as i can remember have failed in their obligation to move this GREAT Country forward economically, socially in order to take its rightful place in Africa and the World.Let'S Change the Leadership,Let's Vote CCM out!

 

[muxar]

In my humble opinion Tanzania as a Nation is not a failed State for numerous reasons, rather our Leaders as far back as i can remember have failed in their obligation to move this GREAT Country forward economically, socially in order to take its rightful place in Africa and the World.Let'S Change the Leadership,Let's Vote CCM out!

Where were we supposed to be after 50yrs of independence? which is our rightful place as the country in these aspects of life?Are we that far from the destination we were supposed to be?,,TUnautambua mchango wa ccm katika maendeleo ya nchi yetu?..Vote for EL

 

[HEKIMA KWANZA]

What you're seeing now is people driven change, people are influencing what you call reforms, people are influencing a group among themselves to sit and put proper framework while going through change.
Weather it will work or not, it is still change

Maybe a 'people driven change' is not the same as a 'people driven change'!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

your comments explains why you have not been able to see any progress made by CCM in the past 20 years.

How so? Please explicate.

and i think it is sheer insanity in your part to have expected ANYTHING if 1. you never voted for them

Did I say I expected anything from them? What the hell is wrong with you? Yes, I have never voted for them and consequently I have never ever had any expectations of them.

So stop making an ass of yourself by assuming things about me that aren't even remotely close to being true.

2. and were not interested in politics.

Again, you are assuming things you have no clue about. Where did you get the notion that I was never interested in politics? Are you retarded or something? WTF!!!!!

I believe there are people who should not complain or make any remarks regarding gov work if they don't bother to look at what politcal parties are promising during elections.

That's your shitty opinion and you are entitled to it.

if you cant be bothered to find out, then dont expect anything. simples.

"simples".....ahahahaaaa......your English is really really good hahahahaaaaaa.

 

[Tractus]

Stop day dreaming. Even South Africans thought the moment ANC came to power everything will be be bread and butter for them. Go and ask them now.

Do you mean things haven't changed up to now?
Things at least have change compared to the time of apartheid regime.
In fact, Tanzania is different from South Africa and how sure are you that what happened in South Africa will also happen in Tanzania?

 

[maatope]

samahani ku HIJACK hii thread lakini kuna MODS huku nafikiri wako kwenye payroll,wamefuta thread yangu(aibu yao)...angalieni hiz clip mbili ..ni ma CCM yakijaribu kudanganya kwamba CNN ESPANOL imetabiriushindi wao kwa 75 percent

ORIGINAL ya 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRGhsD_YRgI

FAKE toka masaki IT house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_09CHGvhWN8&feature=youtu.be


MODS sielewi ni kwanini mlifuta thread yangu...aibuuuuuuuu

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

How so? Please explicate.

calm the fudge down, that comment was directed to everyone else who has never expected anything from CCM, suddenly they come up with comments like, re-electing CCM is insanity.

by the way, i am english to you. i dont write text book english, it's my first language.

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

samahani ku HIJACK hii thread lakini kuna MODS huku nafikiri wako kwenye payroll,wamefuta thread yangu(aibu yao)...angalieni hiz clip mbili ..ni ma CCM yakijaribu kudanganya kwamba CNN ESPANOL imetabiriushindi wao kwa 75 percent

ORIGINAL ya 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRGhsD_YRgI

FAKE toka masaki IT house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_09CHGvhWN8&feature=youtu.be


MODS sielewi ni kwanini mlifuta thread yangu...aibuuuuuuuu

did you want to start a topic based on that video? there are so many fake videos being circulated no one is trying to mislead anyone, they are messing about..

 

[maatope]

did you want to start a topic based on that video? there are so many fake videos being circulated no one is trying to mislead anyone, they are messing about..

Ingia kwenye ma group ya wana ccm wanshangilia hiyo kitu..what a shame.

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

Ingia kwenye ma group ya wana ccm wanshangilia hiyo kitu..what a shame.

we still have 10 days to go until election, why are you worried about some random people cheering fake videos? :A S shade: shame on them, not you.

 

[mjogoro]

Life wont become any easier under Lowassa, if you want your life to become better YOU need to do something about it. and do it starting NOW. we can change from CCM to UKAWA to ACT-Wazalendo, opportunities will just pass you by.

So you mean it's only the individual efforts that mater, think about the position of political regime of a country in the provision of condusive working environment for its people.

 

[Horace Byatt]

Duh! Wabongo mna yai!! Ng'eli iyo babu! Mamaeeeeee!

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

So you mean it's only the individual efforts that mater, think about the position of political regime of a country in the provision of condusive working environment for its people.

certainly political 'climate' plays part, but in the case of Tanzania, last year there were 5,000 new millionaires in US dollars (Source: Forbes). So, what excuse 'good enough' can someone give not to succeed?

And not just in TZ there are many countries with unstable govs and people still succeed, i am not trying to discount environment factor in prosperity but its sheer willingness to succeed which makes an individual surpass all odds to realise their dreams. anyone who dishes out excuses not to succeed to me is NOT serious.. because all challenges you face are opportunities and successful 'personalities' view challenges differently, so whatever you think is a challenge/obstacle can be a money making opportune.

 

[Bongolander]

well, when you admit failure you step down, Nyerere as an individual failed and stepped down but CCM has a party needs new person to continue leading and there are so many things in pipeline which to me, it means one thing that they have not failed and should carry on with their work.

If an individual can admit failure and step down, party can do the same. Mwalimu did just admit that he as a person failed, but his policies too. That is why the one who came after him changed most of things. I may agree with you that it is possible for individuals to change CCM, but who among the ones we see now can bring change? Magufuli? no way...

 

[Eric Cartman]

Kweli Mchambuzi kaenda UKAWA hata post yake inatoa 'diminishing returns' sio yule tena.

Kweli unaweza kufananisha committee ambayo imeundwa kwa sababu ya kuangalia tukio kama la escrow na committee (as in commission ya serikari) ambayo inafanya procedural reviews kuleta mabadiliko, ukawa lazima wanagawa pills za kupunguza akili sio bure.

 

[Tractus]

certainly political 'climate' plays part, but in the case of Tanzania, last year there were 5,000 new millionaires in US dollars (Source: Forbes). So, what excuse 'good enough' can someone give not to succeed?

And not just in TZ there are many countries with unstable govs and people still succeed, i am not trying to discount environment factor in prosperity but its sheer willingness to succeed which makes an individual surpass all odds to realise their dreams. anyone who dishes out excuses not to succeed to me is NOT serious.. because all challenges you face are opportunities and successful 'personalities' view challenges differently, so whatever you think is a challenge/obstacle can be a money making opportune.

I doubt whether all challenges one faces are opportunities? This is just a wishful thinking or blind optimism.
A government should and must ensure equality in a country by providing equal opportunities to all its citizens.
Whether we have more millionaires or not so long as the majority of people still struggling to put a loaf of bread on table, we shouldn't be proud.
So long as Majority of people are languish in poverty, Government should fix this situation.
We need to choose a leader who is able to change the economy so that the poor too can benefit. We shouldn't let someone who runs for a public office just to saferguard the interests of the few.

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

If an individual can admit failure and step down, party can do the same. Mwalimu did just admit that he as a person failed, but his policies too. That is why the one who came after him changed most of things. I may agree with you that it is possible for individuals to change CCM, but who among the ones we see now can bring change? Magufuli? no way...

Traditionally, leading a country over time needs changing because when you change a leader as you agreed bring fresher ideas and different ways of doing things.

changing a leader is CHANGE, you dont need to wait until you change a political party to know there is change, by the way how many political parties will you change to believe it's enough to enact change?

someone said, all politicians belong to the same father, the base line is, they are mere mortals and they have shortcomings. the person you believe might bring about change today can turn out to be a biggest crook tomorrow, unfortunately you will never know until he is elected. but I also believe a fruit doesnt fall very far from a tree, I think we have seen Lowassa and Magufuli for enough period to know who is more likely to bring the change we can believe in now.

we have 8 presidential candidates, so you have a democratic right to chose whoever you believe can bring a real change, I have listen to them, I have seen their work and i have made up my mind. HAVE YOU?

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

I doubt whether all challenges one faces are opportunities? This is just a wishful thinking or blind optimism.
A government should and must ensure equality in a country by providing equal opportunities to all its citizens.
Whether we have more millionaires or not so long as the majority of people still struggling to put a loaf of bread on table, we shouldn't be proud.
So long as Majority of people are languish in poverty, Government should fix this situation.
We need to choose a leader who is able to change the economy so that the poor too can benefit. We shouldn't let someone who runs for a public office just to saferguard the interests of the few.

you can disagree with my point but I chose to believe that all challenges are opportunities, thats how I am wired.

a Government can try to ensure equality and equal opportunity for its citizen but how do you safeguard that promise? even Nanny and Big brother governments wont guarantee that, i tell you. Otherwise, if everyone has equal opportunity how many will take the opportunity to better themselves? some people are happy to just sit and blame everything for their lack of ambition, and thats why i always say, poverty is "mindset". If the gov tomorrow decides to divide all country resources in equal measures, it will take less than a week for some to start complaining they need more.

It always good to take note of some achievements and use them as a lesson, probably its not a good idea to though in a national holiday when mere 5000 out of 47 million people become successful but it's something we can look at and take note, how did these people make it? against all odds?

I am also a believer that a government should fix "all" poverty, government main role is to empower its citizen to create jobs etc. you will be amazed with all technology available government will need to fewer and fewer people in its departments, so where will the job creation come from? from normal individuals/citizens.

 

[Tractus]

you can disagree with my point but I chose to believe that all challenges are opportunities, thats how I am wired.

a Government can try to ensure equality and equal opportunity for its citizen but how do you safeguard that promise? even Nanny and Big brother governments wont guarantee that, i tell you. Otherwise, if everyone has equal opportunity how many will take the opportunity to better themselves? some people are happy to just sit and blame everything for their lack of ambition, and thats why i always say, poverty is "mindset". If the gov tomorrow decides to divide all country resources in equal measures, it will take less than a week for some to start complaining they need more.

It always good to take note of some achievements and use them as a lesson, probably its not a good idea to though in a national holiday when mere 5000 out of 47 million people become successful but it's something we can look at and take note, how did these people make it? against all odds?

I am also a believer that a government should fix "all" poverty, government main role is to empower its citizen to create jobs etc. you will be amazed with all technology available government will need to fewer and fewer people in its departments, so where will the job creation come from? from normal individuals/citizens.

Do you regard equal opportunities to be an idealistic view? Something unattainable?
Whether the people will utilize well the opportunities created by the government or not, That is no the work of government. A Government should only do its duty. The rest, people will sort out for themselves.
Here in this country we have got smart young men and women who can better themselves and nation at large if government ensure equal opportunities. The only way to support these people is just to ensure everyone gets a fair shot regardless of one's family background. This is what people need.
However, the ladder of prosperity only serve the few, on top.For poor people is very hard to climb the ladder of prosperity.
This country needs a fair and just distribution of resources.
In all this, I think poverty is not the mindset . How would you make such a statement. I think no one deliberately decides to be poor. It is the system which make them to be who they are.
What we need right now is that the Government should let the door of opportunities open to all citizens and not to the chosen ones only.
Human beings by nature are meant to work!!This is our essence.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

calm the fudge down, that comment was directed to everyone else who has never expected anything from CCM, suddenly they come up with comments like, re-electing CCM is insanity.

That's absolute balderdash!

by the way, i am english to you. i dont write text book english, it's my first language.

English is your first language and you can't even lucidly express yourself....?

Funny!