Kiranga
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Kwa joyo mali si sehemu ya asili na wala msumali si sehemu ya dirisha?
Ingekuwa ni kweli kuwa mavi ni sehemu ya Asili kama unavyodai, basi hata msumali mmoja ni sehemu ya dirisha, so unataka tuite huo msumali ni dirisha?
Hatuhitaji kurudia tafsiri ya neno ASILI.
Anaita sasa!
At one point they will define god as an abstract (gravity, dark matter, etc) and at one point they will define that god as a physical being. Either they enjoy contradicting themselves or they have failed to define god.
Makes you wonder how can gravity, dark matter, nature be a he-man.
Kwa joyo mali si sehemu ya asili na wala msumali si sehemu ya dirisha?
Wewe umedai kuwa mavi ni sehemu ya asili ambayo mimi naiita Mungu, ukauliza je Mavi ni Mungu?
Nami nimekuuliza, tofali moja ni sehemu ya nyumba, je ni sahihi kuliita hilo tofali 'nyumba'? Usichoelewa kipi?
Hatahivyo, mavi ni matokeo tu ya ASILI, si sehemu ya asili. Labda nieleweshe 'sehemu ya' ina maana gani. Ninavyoelewa mimi kitu 'sehemu ya' uwepo wake una athari za moja kwa moja kwa ukamilifu wa sehemu kuu.. Hakuna kitu chochote kinachoweza kuathiri ukamilifu wa Nature, inapofuatwa au kukiukwa ita-react accordingly!
Anaita sasa!
Mungu wako ndiye huyu omnipotent, omniscient, omni benevolent?
Mungu wako ndiye huyu omnipotent, omniscient, omni benevolent?
Ndio maana niliwahi kuwaambia muwe mnajua mnachojengea hoja, kabla hajawa omniscient, omnibenevotent wala omnipresent, HE/IT/SHE IS THE CREATOR OF UNIVERSE! The Creator is Nature, we call it God, kama unatambua uwepo wa NATURE kama source ya ulimwengu, basi tamka kutambua hilo, then tutaenda hatua inayofuata, yaani kuhoji 'Is the creator/nature sometimes God omniscient, omn...etc?
Anaita sasa!
Hujajibu swali.
Njema, na iwe hivyo. Nitakujibu.
The Creator/God/Nature ni yenye Upendo, Kudra, Uwezo wote na Kupatikana kila mahali!
Je unataka kujua how?
Anaita sasa!
if God exist and he did made this world with all these suffering,volcanos, disease, hunger, calamaties, earth quake, crony capitalism, brutal wars, greedy peoples etc at least we can fairly agree he is either incompetent or he just doesn't care!!!
The fact that our knowledge of science cannot give all answer does not mean science does not have answers and god is the answer.
The fact that my knowledge of mathematics does not give me the answer to the square root of two does not mean mathematics does not have that answer and the answer is an undefined singularity.
What is important than whether science has all the answers today is the methodical and open to review convergence it provides. A religious belief in a godhead does not give you that room for review.
I am not sure how much of this can be immediately clear if you have not done the requisite homework, and even if you have there is always the pitfall of cognitive dissonance, or sheer intellectual laziness.
wakati unapitia matatizo ili hali unashika sheria za mungu ipasavyo tena unafanya jitihada za dhati kujikwamua katika tatizo hilo bila.mafanikio ni ngumu sana kumuaminisha mtu kwa kumshauri kwa maneno kirahisi rahis kuwa "mshirikishe/ mtumainie mungu""
jamani is not simple as you think trust me!!!
Ukiwa na hela au usipokuwa na shida ya maisha si rahisi kuwa karibu na aliyenashida labda kwa unafki tu inawezekana.
Sometimes i do agree with you lp that god is not fair. Nimesema hivi makusudi kabisa kwasababu sipendi unafki.
What kind of GOD you guys are you discussing about,God of the Israelis or God of the moslems or your God of the christians?.I know for sure the God i am worshiping is not a boogey man,he is really and infinitiy.Somebody just suggested that God is a boogey man,that is a pure joke and it is a big kuffru to equate God and thhe boogey man,guys you need to be very sensitive when comes to faith and religions ,this is not a joking matter.M/Mpamba.
if God exist and he did made this world with all these suffering,volcanos, disease, hunger, calamaties, earth quake, crony capitalism, brutal wars, greedy peoples etc at least we can fairly agree he is either incompetent or he just doesn't care!!!
He does care.....what confuses me is''He's mighty and he can do anything..why dd he allow Satan to move on with his life?
2: Why did he put the tree of good and evil in the garden of Eden?
very fair, kama kuna mdemocrasia, hakuna kama umungu amekupa uhuru wote wa kuchagua, la msingi tubu dhambi zako kwa kumaanisha kuacha ,kisha mpokee yesu awe bwana na kiongoizi wa maisha yako,atakupa uweza wa kuweza yote, usihangaike hata bila hiv kumbuka bado siku moja ungekufa tu,hivyo muhimu si maisha ya hapa duniani bali roho yako itakapomrudia aliyeifanya.