Huku ni lazima wamelogwa na hatutoki ;

[mringi]

Hebu una Muungano wa nchi mbili Serikali Mbili
Mmoja ana Serikali mwingine hana na asiye na serikali anaona sawa
Mmoja ana wimbo wa Taifa mwingune hana na asiye na wimbo anaona sawa
Mmoja ana bendera na mwingine hana na asiye na bendera anaona sawa
Mmoja ana Bunge lake na asiye na Bunge anaona sawa
Mmoja ana raisi wake na asiye na Raisi anaona sawa
Mmoja anaruhusiwa kuongea mambo yote ya mwenziwe huyo mwingine hapana
Katiba mpya wote wameingiza Bunge la Jamhuri ila wao wameingiza na Bunge lao
Huyu mmoja mbunge mmoja anawakilisha zaidi ya wapiga kura 50,000 ila huyu mwingine wapiga kura 5,000
Huyu mwingine Jimbo mmoja Mbunge mmoja ila mwingine ana Mbunge na mwakilishi(2)
Huyu mmoja ana katiba yake na huyu hana wala hasikitiki
Ndugu tusikubali kuendelea kuwa WADANGANYIKA sasa tuwe WATANGANYIKA

 

[Tata]

In short Zanzibari are smarter than Tanganyikans. The same applies to their founding father - he was smarter than his counterpart.

 

[NAMTUMBA]

upuuzi mwingine wa nyerere huo

 

[mgemamkwezi]

Ndio maana nasena magamba yanayoshabikia serikali 2 imabidi yafunuliwe sahani zinaofunika bongo zao na kuzimulika bongo na tochi kuona kama ziko sawa au zina vinyemelezi vyovyote vya maradhi

 

[Lyimo]

Ndiyo maana tunaona kama itashindikana serikali TATU sababu ya gharama kama inavyodaiwa? basi ni heri tubakiwe na serikali moja itakayokuwa na usawa na unafuu zaidi.

 

[House of Commons]

CCM wapumbavu kabisa kabisa kabisa, wao bora ccm iendelee, Tanganyika ipotelee mbali, wajinga sana hawa mbweha

 

[BONGOLALA]

Nyerere anasema kila kitu tumerithi toka kwA mkoloni isipokua muungano!ndiyo maana ccm wanaung'ang'ania kwa kuwa hakuna walilofanya kwa watanzania

 

[Rorya one]

.......Tanganyika must,la sivyo huku nako itakuwa kama zanz tutawatimua

 

[sawa]

muungano ni nchi 1,na serikali 1

 

[Elly B]

In short Zanzibari are smarter than Tanganyikans. The same applies to their founding father - he was smarter than his counterpart.

Kafikirie upya mpendwa. you can get it right this time! Otherwise you don't want me to spell it to you?

 

[Tata]

Kafikirie upya mpendwa. you can get it right this time! Otherwise you don't want me to spell it to you?

You can spell it out right away. What I said about Zanzibaris is a fact.

 

[Elly B]

You can spell it out right away. What I said about Zanzibaris is a fact.

Could they had ever been smarter wangekuwa wanalialia kila siku? You can't be serious.

 

[Ngoso]

Akilizao zinzfanana sawa na mateja utu heshima kwako sio issue wakotayari kuuza utu wao wapate unga wapate steam nahao ulio wasema hapo juu hawaoni shida kuuza utuwao na utaifa wao mradi wanafisadi nchi.

Hebu una Muungano wa nchi mbili Serikali Mbili
Mmoja ana Serikali mwingine hana na asiye na serikali anaona sawa
Mmoja ana wimbo wa Taifa mwingune hana na asiye na wimbo anaona sawa
Mmoja ana bendera na mwingine hana na asiye na bendera anaona sawa
Mmoja ana Bunge lake na asiye na Bunge anaona sawa
Mmoja ana raisi wake na asiye na Raisi anaona sawa
Mmoja anaruhusiwa kuongea mambo yote ya mwenziwe huyo mwingine hapana
Katiba mpya wote wameingiza Bunge la Jamhuri ila wao wameingiza na Bunge lao
Huyu mmoja mbunge mmoja anawakilisha zaidi ya wapiga kura 50,000 ila huyu mwingine wapiga kura 5,000
Huyu mwingine Jimbo mmoja Mbunge mmoja ila mwingine ana Mbunge na mwakilishi(2)
Huyu mmoja ana katiba yake na huyu hana wala hasikitiki
Ndugu tusikubali kuendelea kuwa WADANGANYIKA sasa tuwe WATANGANYIKA

 

[Tata]

Could they had ever been smarter wangekuwa wanalialia kila siku? You can't be serious.

I am dead serious my friend. It appears you have fallen to the Zanzibaris' trap by believing that they are given a raw deal just because of their continuous complaints about the union. Have you ever considered the fact that their complaints are nothing but a well thought strategy to reap maximum benefits from the union sometimes at the expense of Tanganyikans? Zanzibaris fights for their rights in the union as a group while Tanganyikans are like wilderbeest who plunge into a river individually and hope the crocodiles are distant enough to let them cross the river safely.

Consider the fact that Zanzibar, a country of one million people, has produced a president for over 45 million people from Tanganyika (Mind you! Union president is also a de-facto president of non-union/Tanganyika affairs) and no Tanganyikan has ever or will ever be president of Zanzibar? You may also explore economic and social development indicators such as the %ntage of total population with access to water, electricity, educational facilities, primary, seconday and tertiary education, paved roads, etc and compare Tanganyikans to Zanzibaris using those parameters. Once you have done all that you can come back for a reasoned discussion on the matter rather than the "name-calling" approach you seem to be fond of.

 

[Elly B]

I am dead serious my friend. It appears you have fallen to the Zanzibaris' trap by believing that they are given a raw deal just because of their continuous complaints about the union. Have you ever considered the fact that their complaints are nothing but a well thought strategy to reap maximum benefits from the union sometimes at the expense of Tanganyikans? Zanzibaris fights for their rights in the union as a group while Tanganyikans are like wilderbeest who plunge into a river individually and hope the crocodiles are distant enough to let them cross the river safely.

Consider the fact that Zanzibar, a country of one million people, has produced a president for over 45 million people from Tanganyika (Mind you! Union president is also a de-facto president of non-union/Tanganyika affairs) and no Tanganyikan has ever or will ever be president of Zanzibar? You may also explore economic and social development indicators such as the %ntage of total population with access to water, electricity, educational facilities, primary, seconday and tertiary education, paved roads, etc and compare Tanganyikans to Zanzibaris using those parameters. Once you have done all that you can come back for a reasoned discussion on the matter rather than the "name-calling" approach you seem to be fond of.

And that makes you smarter! Did you ever considered a difference between being able to pursue and being allowed to pursue?

 

[mwagavumbi 11]

Ndio maana nasena magamba yanayoshabikia serikali 2 imabidi yafunuliwe sahani zinaofunika bongo zao na kuzimulika bongo na tochi kuona kama ziko sawa au zina vinyemelezi vyovyote vya maradhi

haya mawazo sawa na ubongo wa sokwe. Naakika hivisasa uko mombasa unapumuliwa kisogoni

 

[Idimi]

Ndiyo maana tunaona kama itashindikana serikali TATU sababu ya gharama kama inavyodaiwa? basi ni heri tubakiwe na serikali moja itakayokuwa na usawa na unafuu zaidi.

Ndugu Lyimo, serikali ya tatu ipo. Hapo hakuna cha gharama kuongezeka wala nini.
TAMISEMI ni serikali kamili, ikianzia kwa Pinda hadi kijijini kabisa. Hii inaweza kuwa serikali ya Tanganyika (kwa kuanzia), cha msingi ni kuiboresha tu, bila ongezeko la gharama. Hofu 'HEWA' ya serikali tatu ni ya wanasiasa uchwara ambao wanapenda watawale kotekote (bara na Pwani), kitu ambacho kitakua kigumu ndani ya serikali tatu. Rais wa Muungano, ndani ya serikali tatu hatakuwa na nguvu kama marais wa nchi wanachama. Hii ndio hofu ya hawa ma*aya wa kisiasa!

 

[Mnyandughu]

hii nchi nitaihama muda si mrefu,maana nimeshindwa life la mandezi ccm

 

[Tata]

And that makes you smarter! Did you ever considered a difference between being able to pursue and being allowed to pursue?

Have you understood what I was talking about? Your arguments are very cheap and inconsequential.

 

[Elly B]

Have you understood what I was talking about? Your arguments are very cheap and inconsequential.

I see. Good to know anyway