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Frank talk on Another Side of Kagame

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Sophist, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. Sophist

    Sophist JF-Expert Member

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    1. Kagame has re-made Rwanda but he is far from re-making Rwandans. He has failed to check on his "strong men's" powers and authority. Such men like James Muson, Jack Nziza, James Kabarebe, Dr. Ndahiro, Charles Kayong, and the list continues, have unlimited powers which they actually further 'delegate' to individuals who also construct their own power bases.
    It is this phenomena, which because it flows along the 'natural' line of 'Tutsis', that people refer to as Tutsi dominance in Rwanda. I am afraid, it is not every Tutsi but to the extent that Kagame is merely looking on while the ordinary people suffer, then it may be perceived as the policy of his regime.
    Yeah, it is interesting to look at the list of Ministers, diplomats, senior officers in the army and police, General Secretaries, Governors, MPs, Senators, Chair Persons and members of national Commissions, Mayors, Directors at every level, among other leaders in the country. There are hadly Hutus and Twas! I tend to think this uneven distribution of power among the different tribes of Rwanda might make it difficult for Rwandans to work together.
    Corruption in Rwanda!!! Kagame is 'lucky' in the sense that there is no vibrant civil society in the country that can make much noise about corruption in the country. He has also managed to control the media to the extent that everything written in the news papers must be in favour of the regime. Otherwise, it is difficult to get to anything in Rwanda if you do not belong to 'the power house'. Kagame, please work on that.

    1. Kagame should also accept that there are many of his army officers and many civilians (i.e. Tutsis) who killed the Hutus. Mass graves of the Hutu who were killed exist throughout the country. If these people are never tried, the Hutus will not feel a sense of Justice and so, this will remain a fundamental problem for generations to come. Kagame should be open, and create an environmnet in which a South African like Truth and Reconciliation Commission will develop and operate.
    2. Kagame should involve the Hutus and Twas as equal shareholders in the administration of the State.
    3. Kagme should allow his viable and robust political opponents to exist without fear or intimidation in the country; he should allow the Rwandan civil society to develop. Politics of manipulation should be played down by his regime
    4. Rwandans should not resort to war. Any and all politicians in Rwanda should denounce violence and war, then work hard to make sure that the different ethnic groups are recognised and empowered.
    I am Tutsi myself. I fought the war and did a lot to stop the genocide. I agree that the 1994 genocide was planed by selfish politicians in the region as well as some politicians in Europe. If you asked me to tell you why I fell out with Kagame, my simple answer is that I thought Kagame was going to usher in fundamental change. This did not happen. I wanted him to democratize Rwanda. I wanted him to reduce the powers of the president, I wanted him to go beyond ethnic divisions, I wanted him to unite Rwandans. This he failed. First, it became a principle that any Tutsi army officer who got involved with or married a Hutu lady was either killed or the relationship was frustrated. This was done with Kagame's approval.
    What is interesting is that the game Kagame is playing against the Hutu and Twa is the very game the Hutu will play against the Tutsi when they also reorganize and come to power. You wait, it wont take too long! The good thing is that it looks like Radio Katwe is here to stay and the very people who defend Kagame will be the very people complaining when their turn comes.
    It is true there are no identity cards indicating who is Tutsi, Hutu or Twa. But frankly speaking, is there any sober person who has ever lived in Rwanda under Kagame that would say there is no discrimination? True, discrimination in Rwanda is now done secretly unlike before the Genocide. For example, let us mention the two camps that are the masters of appointments in Rwanda namely the James Musoni and the Dr. Ndahiro camps. Who can qualify through either of these camps for appointment if he/she is not Tutsi? No doubt there are some Hutus in "strategic" places. But let us be open, do such people like the Prime Minister, the Speaker of Parliament, the Minister of defense, etc, all of whom are Hutu, make any crucial decision? It is even clear from their facial expression that they are insecure. Some Tutsi young boys are real the controllers of these seemingly strong men. Friends ... let us be frank. Kagame regime must change or else, when the Hutu finally take power, the Tutsi should be prepared to be treated the same way.
    There is a problem in Kigali under Kagame, every thing that comes up, they will immediately go to their defensive. Every body who tries to say something contrary to the "correct line" is immediately referred to as a killer!
    By the way, do you know how many people we as RPA killed in Byumba and in many other places? Why isn't this also talked about openly? Do you know how many Hutu that were killed by RPA?! Do you know how many Tutsi have been killed by Kagame? Dont just blindly defend Kagame, he is a killer!! This he knows himself. He even ever asked us in some senior officers' meeting "what will happen when the world comes to know everything we did?" Do you think France and Spain are stupid? Those guys are right. The only mistake they did is that their list of wanted RPA officers is short. Also, the list does not include Tutsi civilians who killed. Otherwise Kagame is a killer!
    (The writer is referring to international arrest warrants issued by a Spanish judge. See "Spanish judge issues arrest warrant for 40 Rwandan army officers and men" of 13 Feb 2008 on our front page - Editor)

    The common belief that Kagame does not stomach corruption, wait a moment! All the names of people like Kalegeya and others, whom Kagame allegedly "dealt with" for corruption are simply sacrifices. It is because they disagreed with the guy ( Kagame) on the way forwards for the administration of the state. The real corrupt people who accept to do business for Kagame are never bothered! Consider James Musoni, Dr. Ndahiro, Nziza, among others. The good thing with Kagame, and as some writer referred to him as being good at creating a positive image of himself in public is that when one opposes him, he will get rid of that person under pretext of "fighting corruption". What about Kagame's wife? Do you know how corrupt she is? What about the Charles Kayongas, James, etc.. these are extremely corrupt guys.
    Just pray that there is a change in Kagame's approach or let us us pray for a bloodless regime change in Kigali.
    Mugisha ( Europe)
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2009
  2. mwakatojofu

    mwakatojofu JF-Expert Member

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    even tutsis killed hutus in 1994?

    very bad
  3. Kitia

    Kitia JF-Expert Member

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    An eyeopener!
  4. Mwawado

    Mwawado JF-Expert Member

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    Inashtua.....Lakini all in all Paul Kagame amesimamia vyema maendeleo ya Taifa la Rwanda,nami pia sikubaliani nae kwa baadhi ya mambo haswa haki za binadamu,lakini sina sababu ya kutokumsifu kwa juhudi zake za kusukuma kwa kasi maendeleo ya Rwanda,naweza kusema kwenye Taasisi zote
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    Jasusi JF-Expert Member

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    Kumbuka kuwa huyu mwandishi anayo bone to grind with Kagame. Seems ameikimbia nchi. Ni kama vile Kambona alivyokuwa akimsema Mwalimu vibaya alipokuwa London. So I take it with a grain of salt. On corruption Kagame is miles ahead of our leadership in CCM.
  6. Ng'wanza Madaso

    Ng'wanza Madaso JF-Expert Member

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    Watu wengine bwana siuende Rwanda ukapambane nae acheni kuongea kwa sababu tu labda kawanyima madaraka kama kila mtu akipewa madaraka ni nani atamuongoza mwenzie? nyamaza kimya.
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    LaVerite Member

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    waTanzania tunapenda kupiga domo sana hata kwa mambo tusiyoyajua. Maelezo ya Sophist yanaendana sana na mambo yalivyo Rwanda kama vyanzo mbalimbali vinavyoeleza, lakini sis tumekazania kumpigia debe Kagame wakati hatujui has kitu kinachoendelea kule Rwanda. Miaka 15 ni mingi sana na kama Kagame angekuwa ni mleta maendeleo Rwanda ingekuwa tayari ni Ulaya ndogo.
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    Susuviri JF-Expert Member

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    There are alot of sides to Kagame and I don't remember anyone claiming that he is an Angel or a Saint. He has tried to make the best he can of a given situation. Considering the massacre of thousands of Tutsis sioni hapa kama Hutus wanaweza kupigia sana kelele usawa etc. Unyama waliofanyiwa watutsi are beyond comprehension. And it is a difficult thing to trust Hutus and to go on living. Nawapongeza sana wananchi wa Rwanda kwa kufanya jitihada za kutolipiza kisasi.
    So the fact that Hutus were killed during the genocide is not surprising but we should be grateful that the killings stopped on both sides.
    Leo hii Rwanda is making strides in development which is more than what an exiled man in London can say for himself. Nilisoma article kuhusu Mugisha and it shows that this man hana point ya maana zaidi ya bitterness about the political fallout he had with Kagame, but he should move on na aende kuchangia maendeleo ya nchi.
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    Kahinda JF-Expert Member

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    Nyie waswahili wa bongo msipige domo tu hamjui kinachoendelea katika nchi hizi za Rwanda,Burundi na sehemu ya zaire inayoitwa Uvira kwa Banyamlenge.
    hamjui historia ya Wanyambo walioko Karagwe/Tanzania, Wahangaza walioko Ngara/Tanzania, Wanyankole walioko Uganda kabila la Museveni.Na hamjui kitu kinachoitwa The Bahima supremarcy. Wahutu wamekuwa kama watoto yatima wasiokuwa na utetezi Bahima/Bahinda kumbuka mimi naitwa Kahinda wote ni watusi.Yapo mambo muyafanyie utafiti kabla hamjadandia mambo.kwa leo sitaingia kwa undani zaidi lakini nilitaka niwape clues kuwa there is more than what you may think guys.
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    Koba JF-Expert Member

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    ...mtusi my a$$,labda FDLR!
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    Tell us today
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    Jiulize kwanza kwa nn akimbie nchi yake??