For Serious Discussants Only: How Do We Address the Following Challenges?

[BadoMbali]

nafikiri ni jambo zuri kufikiria namna ya kutatua matatizo tuliyonayo; muhimu zaidi ni kuzuia matatizo ambayo bado hayajatupata yasitupate.

mimi ningezungumzia kwanza kwenye nishati; tuwekeze kwenye hydroelectric power kwasababu research inaonyesha Tanzania inapata ukame kila baada ya miaka 13 kwahiyo swala kubwa sio ukame; na hydroelectric ni "expensive to install cheaper to run" tofauti na sasa nchi inaendeshwa kwa majenerator ambapo pesa nyingi sana zinatumika kununua mafuta na kulipa wenye jenereta capacity charge. huwa najiuliza nakosa jibu inawezekanaje kuendesha nchi kwa jenereta wakati mtu mwenye kipato cha wastani hawezi kumudu gharama za kuwasha jenereta masaa 12 kila siku

Lapili nadhani ni sahihi kuzalisha umeme wa gesi "plant" ikakaa chanzo kilipo, faida ya hii ni urahisi wa kuongeza"plant" kama matumizi yakiongezeka na kutumia nyaya zilezile; tofauti na bomba ambalo lina kiwango "maximum throughput" kwahiyo matumizi yakiongezeka inabidi tujenge bomba lingine.

Pili nizungumzie kuhusu madini; kwanza yauziwe hapa nchini, yakiuziwa hapa nchini fedha za kigeni zitakuja hapa nchini, pili kodi stahiki italipwa kwa mauzo (labda niulize kwa sasa hivi kodi ya mauzo yanayofanyika afrika kusini mnapataje?)

Pia kwenye madini ni wakati muafaka sasa wa kuchimba wenyewe, kwasababu watu wengi wenye ujuzi tayari wapo na mashine zinazohitajika sio ghali sana

Tatu zungumzeni na wenye fedha nje ya nchi waziwekeze hapa (inabidi hapa tukae kama taifa tusahau yaliyopita maana hata wakifungwa pesa itapotelea huko nche bora irudi nyumbani), wakifungua viwanda vitasaidia kupunguza tatizo la ajira, na kuongeza thamani ya bidhaa tunazozalisha

Nne boresheni reli nchi nzima, sasa mnakopa kujenga bandari nyingine wakati zipo tayari bandari zenye reli zinazohitaji tu kuendelezwa na mfumo wa reli kuboreshwa, kukiwa na reli nchi nzima mazao mengi ya wakulima hayataaribikia shambani.

Kikubwa zaidi ya yote ni kubadilisha mfumo wa uongozi ili watu wachache wasiwe na uwezo wa kufanya maamuzi hatarishi kwa nchi bila kuwepo kwa chombo chochote cha kuwadhibiti, mfano sidhani kama wewe mwenyewe umeshawahi kuuona mkataba wa uchimbaji jimboni kwako, mfumo uliopo wa uongozi ni hatari sana kwa mstakabali wa Taifa, Katiba mpya ikiweza kudhibiti hili basi tunaweza kusonga mbele

Mawazo ni mengi nadhani hata nyie mnayo ila shida mfumo wa maamuzi, watu wanakopa wanakopa wanakopa sisi na vizazi vyetu tunalipa bila hata kujua umekopa nini kwa faida gani, mimi naiona hii "initiative" yako nzuri lakini kwa nchi yetu ilivyosasa ni "mission impossible"

 

[Hassan J. Mosoka]

What you are saying are the real challenges facing our nation today, but you party as a ruling party is busy politicizing everything, fight with CDM and killing innocent soul. Who do you think will lead the country to tackle those challenges?

 

[Mbelwa Germano]

I do not subscribe to small time thinking that our problems and our failures would be solved by changing the ruling party - because all of us come from the same forest where we have a whole range of characters and wearing green, blue, or red does not change our attitudes - we are human and we remain so disregarding where we are.

It is common to everyone to have his or her own version of how to tackle our countries' problems. However, it is safe to say that most of these are open ended and go around the point. But since most politicians are people with thick skins and mind there are always made numerous superficial and artificial remedies.

To tolerate wrong even when you know it or see it is called state repression, passiveness or docility. Not to be aware of it is called ignorance. Those who benefits from the system at the moment favor the system. And when the tides turns, the same turn around criticizing the very norms they preached, protected and practiced. As they expect people to sympathize with them. This must change.

To change people mindset and making the government accountable to the people and not people to the government we must first uproot the CCM regime. Doing this will make people recognize their power over the government. Tanzania mind has to be tuned to accept and tolerate real things. Realism is the reawakening of the mind to start believing in practical input and output, accept the reality of life and strive to change for the better.

 

[Safari_ni_Safari]

To address the problems we face, I suggest the following: we embark on major reforms on our institutions that govern our politics, economics and social fabrics.

And yet you do not agree with those who want to "uproot the ruling party" as if doing that is a crime!

 

[kibaya-kenya]

shame upon Kigwangallah, nothing good will always come from ccm your killing ganster PARTY , but fear not time will tell not so long the new dawn/era is coming to pay you all in CORRUPT PARTY.

 

[kibaya-kenya]

shame upon Kigwangallah, nothing good will always come from ccm your killing ganster PARTY , but fear not time will tell not so long the new dawn/era is coming to pay you all in your CORRUPT PARTY.

Colleagues,

I am thinking of using this forum and other online fora to catalyse discussions on how we use our potentials to bring about change in our country. I need us to use the internet as an opportunity to do something about our daunting challenges as Tanzanians and therefore I expect contributions that would enlighten us or which provide solutions for furtherance of our development cause. The premise behind this is that; a lot of people concentrate and thus waste a lot of time looking at one closed door instead of exploring for possibilities of many other open doors. Many people focus on just talking about the challenges we face as a nation instead of working hard to find solutions for them. A lot of us focus on looking up to the government for solutions instead of working hard to offer solutions. Some few young elites, and of course even our mentors/teachers, have become myopic and thus are looking only on one thing - uprooting the ruling party. Is it the only door open? What about other options like forging partnerships? What about adopting political consultation systems to govern our economy?

To me the following forms the major challenges we face today as a nation: poverty and food security, unemployment, illiteracy, diseases, energy paucity, widening inequities, maintaining peace and security, poor mindset, poorly performing institutions, and having a true form of democracy...not just having elections and winning the majority votes but how do we protect the rights of the minorities? How about the rule of law?

To address the problems we face, I suggest the following: we embark on major reforms on our institutions that govern our politics, economics and social fabrics. We have a golden opportunity now that we are in the process of writing our new constitution. What do you think? Lets enjoy a fruitful discussion here.

 

[Mbelwa Germano]

It is stupid to think an MP will be elected based on his promises unless you don't understand what an MP is all about and what is the role of the government.

As I have said earlier that, in the Tanzania's political matrix there is an absence of matured politics (or we can call wisdom). The main reason is that those who aspire for political positions think that financial capacity to buy the votes is tantamount to political wisdom.

The entire crop of Tanzania's current political leadership is not is not blessed with such wisdom. People follow and vote for these politicians only because they give them vitenge, drums of local beer and T-shirts, not that they are performers with workable plans. They take advantage of people's ignorance expecting to get gratuity.

The cycle goes on every five years and the country becomes poorer, it is a cycle the same lies, same liars, same gift. That is why we are cursed with unwise leadership. This has to change. The only solution is:

MPs would only, I repeat, only get their gratuity at the end of the five year term based on performance. Otherwise the gratuity would be invested into some project in the respective constituency. This would seriously discourage and deter false politicians whose only aspiration is to get gratuity without working.

 

[Mbelwa Germano]

What you are saying are the real challenges facing our nation today, but you party as a ruling party is busy politicizing everything, fight with CDM and killing innocent soul. Who do you think will lead the country to tackle those challenges?

Response to Change against Reaction to change. Changes are Inevitable, They can only delay it.

 

[pembe]

You are in the system and you have seen all the odds that are in the system. You are thinking of how you can change or improve the life style of the poor Tanzanians but you are not getting a solution. My advice is this: Get out of the system and then carry out an analysis (you ere a PhD holder) and start disseminating it to people! However take care the system will be at your neck since they don't want Tanzanians to wake up!

 

[The Planner]

Kigwangala.,nadhani umeanzisha mada nzuri ambayo wewe mwenyewe mchango na analysis yako inakuwa dhaifu sana. Ukiangalia majibu yako kwamba rushwa siyo kushindwa kwa chama tawala unanifanya mimi binafsi niamini kwamba upo "biased" katika uchambuzi wako. Labda naomba unijibu nani anayetengeneza serikali kwa mfumo wa katiba yetu ya sasa, obvious jibu ni chama tawala.,So any system failure katika utawala na serikali hauwezi kukikwepa chama tawala kama unataka kuwa mkweli. Kama unakumbukumbu nzuri,Dr. Edward Hosea amekili anafungwa mikono katika utekelezaji wa shughuli zake, jiulize na nani? jibu ni serikali ya chama tawala! Jambo la pili Napata shida sana na uelewa wako wa concept nzima ya Good governance, Unaweza kuwa na mfumo mzuri sana (namaanisha katiba) lakini nani anayeisimamia hiyo katiba? pillars za good governance ni nyingi na wewe pia ni shahidi wa jinsi zinavyovunjwa mfano., (I) Uwazi (Hakuna uwazi katika serikali yako) (ii) Uwajibikaji (Hii ni ndoto kwa nchi yetu). Hii ni mifano michache tu. So Bwana Hamisi unapofanya uchambuzi ambao utawezesha kutatua matatizo yaliyopo hebu upe kazi ya ziada ubongo wako, usiishie tu kwenye manisfesto ya chama.

 

[dukebrain]

Colleagues,

I am thinking of using this forum and other online fora to catalyse discussions on how we use our potentials (THERE'S NOTHING LIKE OUR POTENTIAL, ESPECIALLY WITH FOOLS) to bring about change in our country. I need us to use the internet as an opportunity to do something about our daunting challenges as Tanzanians and therefore I expect contributions that would enlighten us or which provide solutions for furtherance of our development cause. The premise behind this is that; a lot of people concentrate and thus waste a lot of time looking at one closed door instead of exploring for possibilities of many other open doors. Many people focus on just talking about the challenges we face as a nation instead of working hard to find solutions for them. VERY PATHETIC, WHICH INSTITUTION ARE YOU BASED YOUR CHILDISH IDEAS? WHICH INSTITUTION ARE YOU ADDRESSING THESE PERSONAL THOUGHTS TO MAKE THEM BE REALISTIC? ARE YOU THE FIRST AND THE ONLY IN YOUR FAMILY/CLAN TO HAVE COME OUT AND SEE THE DEAM LIGHT WHICH MADE YOU THINK YOUR VIEWS CAN LEAD GREAT THINKERS TO LEARN HOW FOOLISH THEY HAVE BEEN ALL THIS LONG TO THE TIME YOU COME AND DROP YOUR OVER THE NIGHT THINKING? WHAT IS THE BASIS OF YOUR VIEWS-NOT FACTS? DO YOU BASE THEM FROM YOUR BACKGROUND, I MEAN WHERE YOU COME FROM? OR FROM AMONG YOUR PEER? JUST CLINCH BACK TO YOUR SENSES AND SEE WITH OPEN EYES, YOU NEED PEOPLE TO PRAY FOR YOU SO THAT YOU MAY COME TO UNDERSTANDING BEFORE YOU BECOME OF AGE IN THIS SENSELESS NOTION OF YOURS. lot of us focus on looking up to the government for solutions instead of working hard to offer solutions. WHAT ARE THE MEANS THROUGH WHICH ONE CAN OFFER SOLUTIONS TO THE GOVERNMENT? WHY DO WE HAVE SO CALLED LEADERS? WHAT ARE THEY ACCOUNTABLE FOR? ARE YOU BACKING UP THEIR INABILITY TO PERFORM BY SAYING INDIVIDUALS SHOULD PROVIDE SOLUTIONS FOR THEMSELVES? ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT CITIZEN SHOULD DISMISS THE IDEA OF NATIONHOOD AND LIVE INDEPENDENTLY (THOUGH WE DO) AND FORGET ABOUT VOTING (PLACING RESPONSIBILITY TO LEADERS) AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON OWN EFFORTS WITH OUT EXPECTING A COLLECTIVELY RESPONSIBILITY AS CITIZEN ND THE POWER OF VOTING IN THE NAME OF UNITY UNDER COUNTRY-HOOD LEADERSHIP?? ARE YOU A LEADER? ARE YOU SAYING THOSE WHO VOTE FOR YOU SHOULD NOT EXPECT ANY GOOD FROM YOU??? ARE YOU SAYING THEY SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR ADVICE THAT THEY SHOULD FIND INVINCIBLE DOORS, SEEN BY YOU ALONE, AFTER THEY VOTED FOR YOU! WHY DID THEY VOTE FOR YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!? ARE THEY SENSIBLE!!!? WHY DO THEY LET YOU STILL BE THERE IN THE NAME OF REPRESENTING THEM!!!? Some few young elites, and of course even our mentors/teachers, have become myopic (NARROW-MINDED) UNAWATUKANA WATU WAZIWAZI NAMNA HII AS IF YOU HAVE SEEN IT ALL AND YOU IT ALTOGETHER! YOUR PARENTS, ARE THEY STILL ALIVE? HAVE YOU BEEN IN SCHOOL? TEACHERS, THIS IS A KIND A BOGUS YOU VOTE FOR WHO SEES YOU AS NARROW-MINDED) and thus are looking only on one thing - uprooting the ruling party. Is it the only door open? What about other options like forging partnerships? What about adopting political consultation systems to govern our economy? HOW DO YOU GOVERN OUR ECONOMY WITHOUT GOVERNING A COUNTRY!!!? ARE THESE TWO DISTINGUISHABLE!!!? HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN YOUR PRESIDENT IS AN ECONOMIST!!!? OKAY I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE CONFESSING THAT HE FAILED IN THAT ASPECT AND NOW WITH YOUR WISE FINGERS YOU WRITE TO ADVICE HIM (BUT ON THE INTERNET) THAT HE FAILED AND HAS ADOPT (FROM WHERE) POLITICAL SYSTEM TO GOVERN OUR ECONOMY!!!? HAYA NI MATUSI KWA RAISI WAKO. AKILI YAKO HAIWEZI KUFANYA ANALYSIS YA UNACHOANDIKA KABLA YA KU-POST. SHAME ON YOU . . . HALAFU MPO MNACHEKA NAYE, I THINK ITS HIGH TIME NA YEYE AANZE KUTUMIA USALAMA KUFANYA ANALYSIS YA HAYA UNAYOYAANDIKA . . .

To me the following forms the major challenges we face today as a nation: poverty and food security, unemployment, illiteracy, diseases, energy paucity, widening inequities, maintaining peace and security, poor mindset, poorly performing institutions, and having a true form of democracy...not just having elections and winning the majority votes but how do we protect the rights of the minorities? How about the rule of law? DO YOU DISCUSS THESE ISSUES WITHIN CCM AU NA WEWE UNAFUATA UPEPO WA KULA KWANZA, KURA BAADAE. THESE ARE ANY COUNTRY'S CHALLENGES, AU NDO UNAINGIA KWENYE SIASA MIDA HII ... UNAAIBISHA VIJANA ... JUST SAY WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ABOUT THESE THINGS SO FAR WHEN YOU RAISE THIS DEBATE ... IF NOT CALL FOR HELP FROM THINK TANKERS TO ENLIGHTEN YOUR FADING EYES ...

To address the problems we face, I suggest the following: we embark on major reforms on our institutions that govern our politics, economics and social fabrics. We have a golden opportunity now that we are in the process of writing our new constitution. What do you think? Lets enjoy a fruitful discussion here.

Hkigwangala hujitambui na hutambui mazingira yanayokuzunguka and that makes you an opportunist and attention seeker. You dont have point to focus on, na inaonesha unataka kuyumbisha fikra za vijana walio makini na walio OPEN - MINDED not closed faggots like you. You are wrong, very wrong. AND DO PRAY FOR WISDOM FROM THE MOST HIGH BEFORE YOU RUSH TO POST RUBBISH, INSULTING EVEN YOUR OWN PRESIDENT BY SAYING HE FAILED AND HAVE TO ADOPT A POLITICAL SYSTEM TO GOVERN OUR ECONOMY. HAS HE OR HIS PHILOSOPHIES FAILED TO THAT EXTENT SO THAT YOU ADVICE THE PUBLIC THAT WAY ...

NB: From now on, because you will never stop writing, after you finish to write before you post, sit down, proof-read and do a thorough analysis on your writing ili usije kugombana na waliokuzunguka. Then try to zero-inn in issues to discuss, DO NOT GENERALIZE ISSUES AND CALL FOR ELITES TO DISCUSS. WHAT IS A SPECIFIC ISSUE TO DISCUSS WHEN YOU TALK OF POVERTY. DEVELOPMENT. SECURITY. POLITICS. ECONOMY. TRUE DEMOCRACY (IS CCM DEMOCRACY FAKE?) HAS CCM FAILED TO PROTECT MINORITIES? HAS CCM FAIL TO KEEP THE RULE OF LAW? WHAT IS YOUR ISSUE HERE? DONT JUST MENTION THINGS, POINT TO AN ISSUE TO DISCUSS ...

 

[Kizotaka]

Ningeshauri mleta uzi aandike kwa Kiswahili. Tusing'ang'anie lugha ambazo zinatupiga chenga. Kuna makosa makubwa sana kwenye hii post.

Tumia lugha ambayo unaifahamu vema. Achana ni haya mambo ya kubofoa!

Mkuu nimdpatia,huyu bwana katumia hii lugha humu sijui ili kuonyesha msisitizo au anafikiri bado yuko Japan?! Lugha yetu sijui ina nini!

 

[hukumundo]

Keep on discussing! When the Prime Minister boasts about the unlawful actions of the police and insists that they should beat up citizens some more, we should sit down and discuss. I don't get it, (dis)honorable MP. Police are not supposed to take the law in their hands and execute citizens. When people present serious ideas in the parliament, for example, no serious discussion is encouraged. Instead name calling of the person who raises the questions. Need we give examples. Mleta uzi, what did you do when Mbatia tried to initiate serious discussion about the national calamity we call our education? If you really want serious discussion, what was your contribution? Kichwa cha thread yako kinatufanya Watanzania wote kuwa wajinga while you and your type plunder, loot and oppress people.

 

[The Khoisan]

As a leader we expect you to lead us to the solutions!!

If you are coming here to look for solutions then we have a serious problem with our leadership. It was better if you had suggested at least a solution that we could discuss rather than challenges. May be I should ask you first, why did you decide to stand for that position??

A good leader would know his people's problems and help the community to solve them. Good leaders do things for their people. That's why when you decide to stand you campaign for what you think you would be able to achieve. If I would ask you again, whom do you work for?? I am sure here you will say you are working for people and your country ......... but we both know in TZ politicians work for themselves and their parties. Even some of your criticisms in the house and your thread here suggest the same. However, if you are real genuine about this then we both know TZ will never prosper as long as CCM is in power............ we can come with dozens of solutions but we all know what will happen today, tomorrow and the day after as long as our beloved party is still ruling!!

Development come through good leadership ............ but if you expect to come through people then I would rather say you are wishing for something else. You know what people do .......... they bring changes.............. what type of changes ............ your answer is what is going on in the Arab world.

Anyway, I am not trying to discourage anybody but I would also want to see his honorable MP is writing here his past projects, recent work and future plans so that the forum openly contribute.

 

[hukumundo]

Now, I vented my anger. And that was therapeutic. Now I can suggest the solution.
Miaka ya 70 WAZEE wa Republican party kule Marekani walipoona kwamba raisi wao Nixon (republican pia) alikuwa anaiingiza nchi kwenye mgogoro na kukizamisha chama, walimwendea wakamkalisha chini. Wakamweleza kwa kina matatizo aliyosababisha na yatakotokea. Wakamwambia hakuna njia ni kujitoa kwenye uongozi. Hoja hizo za wazee zilikuwa na ushawishi mkubwa, Nixon akajiuluzu.
Naamini hicho ndicho tunachohitaji. Lazima wazee wa CCM sasa wajikusanye na kumwambia mkuu na wasaidizi wake kwamba wanalipeleka taifa kubaya. Jamani ushabiki wa chama uishe, hauleti faida kwa nchi. Wazee tunawasihi mlinusuru taifa.
Pili kundi jingine la watu maarufu lazima wajue kwamba mambo yatapoharibika, nao pia watadhurika. Angalieni kote ambako serikali iling'ang'ania na mwishowe machafuko yakatoea, nchi nzima iliharibika. Hata waliokuwa na pesa na viwanda walilazimika kukimbia. Tumieni ushawishi wenu kuwaonesha viongozi wetu kwamba tunakoenda ni kubaya.

 

[tongi]

They said if you don't visit other people's homes, you would think your Mother is the best cook. The main source of being fustrated in life is to have expectation that everything can't CHANGE. What i can see here is Responce to Change against Reaction to change.

It is obvious that you are not ready for change and your reacting to change.Humans suffer because they don't want to be real which is called idealism. They find artificial solutions than pragmatic ones, we sown poverty and we reap poverty under CCM umbrella.To open the new door we much first uproot the rulling party. The desire for power at all cost breeds negative consequences, it makes politicians to tell lies just for their survival in office, to be hypotrical etc.

I have realized why even people with questionable mental states can dominate us. But time has come to accept our failure and start moving. This is called Realism. We need Realists and i sure we have such leaders somewhere in the country.

We sown poverty, we reap poverty under ccm umbrella, unquestionable reason why focus should be to up-root ccm, do not need a degree to understand this, big up Mbelwa

 

[gwaigwa]

Mjadala mzuri, watu wanamsifia sana huyu kijana siku hizi na namna anavyoendesha siasa zake