For Serious Discussants Only: How Do We Address the Following Challenges?

[Mapolu]

Inatia kichefuchefu siku zone kusoma article alizoandika Huyu zombe. Shule yake nadhani ni ya kuungaunga ndiyo maana Kiingereza cha hovyo namna hii, Nina mashaka Kama ana mishipa ya aibu Huyu. Kuweka upuuzi Kama huu usomwe Dunia nzima bila kuona aibu inahitaji uwe mvuta bangi au usiwe na mishipa ya aibu. Usipotezee Watanzania mud a wao huna cha kuwashauri, zaidi unahitaji kusaidiwa. Na msaada wa Kwanza, acha kula rushwa kupitia Kamati ya Kudumu ya Bunge ya TAMISEMI ambayo wewe ni mwenyekiti. Ukijibu comment hii tu kukana nakuaibisha. Huu ni msaada wa kwanza kwako mpuuzi wewe.

 

[Deo]

Yes Sir, I wish u could bring the issue within ur profession as what u have brought is clearly above and beyond ur scope. However to give you an answer which according to your mind set will not be acceptable as you are one of the beneficiary of the system.
The clue is to get rid of CCM and all its puppets including yourself then all other problems will be solved. In order to understand my comment I will give an example within you profession which it seems you have abandon.
How would you manage your patient with the syndrome? Do you treat each and every problem or you treat a primary cause? So the primary cause is CCM. To further clarify if your patient is having high fever, diarrhea, vomiting, sweating, headache, muscle pain etc and is known to be malaria do you treat malaria or you treat all those problems?

 

[Kimbunga]

Colleagues,

I am thinking of using this forum and other online fora to catalyse discussions on how we use our potentials to bring about change in our country. I need us to use the internet as an opportunity to do something about our daunting challenges as Tanzanians and therefore I expect contributions that would enlighten us or which provide solutions for furtherance of our development cause. The premise behind this is that; a lot of people concentrate and thus waste a lot of time looking at one closed door instead of exploring for possibilities of many other open doors. Many people focus on just talking about the challenges we face as a nation instead of working hard to find solutions about them. A lot of us focus on looking up to the government for solutions instead of working hard to offer solutions. Some few young elites, and of course even our mentors/teachers, have become myopic and thus are looking only on one thing - uprooting the ruling party. Is it the only door open? What about other options like forging partnerships? What about adopting political consultation systems to govern our economy?

To me the following forms the major challenges we face today as a nation: poverty and food security, unemployment, illiteracy, diseases, energy paucity, widening inequities, maintaining peace and security, poor mindset, poorly performing institutions, and having a true form of democracy...not just having elections and winning the majority votes but how do we protect the rights of the minorities? How about the rule of law?

To address the problems we face, I suggest the following: we embark on major reforms on our institutions that govern our politics, economics and social fabrics. We have a golden opportunity now that we are in the process of writing our new constitution. What do you think? Lets enjoy a fruitful discussion here.

Mkuu mbona hapo umejichanganya na kujitia kitanzi shingoni?. If somebody tells you: "Yes uprooting the ruling party from power will automatically solve all other problems because the ruling party has messed up our political environment, economy and social settings" what would be your answer?

 

[only83]

Mimi nadhani ufumbuzi wa kwanza ni kuondoa CCM kwenye madaraka. Maana haya yote yemesababishwa na watawala wa CCM ambao ni impotent. Hakuna jinsi, na kutazama namna ambavyo hawa jamaa ni janga, rasimu ya katiba imetoka inayotaka kutoa suluhu ya baadhi ya matatizo makubwa ya hii nchi, yanakuja na mavipingamizi yao. Hawa ni hatari kwa usalama wa hii nchi.

Ukweli ni kuwa, tukiendelea kuwa chini ya CCM kwa miaka 10 ijayo, watanzania wote watakufa.

 

[VIKWAZO]

Dr. Hamisi Kigwangalla, MD, MPH, MBA
hivi wewe streight yako ni ipi? sizani kama utafanyia kazi vyeti vyote, tuanze kujadili watu wanaosoma kwa misingi ya vyeti na sio kulisaidia TAIFA,
maana kuna watu wana vyeti vya kila kitu, matokeo yake taifa halina wataalamu maana watu hawatumii muda wa kutosha kuyafanyika kazi ( utafiti ) yale wanayosoma ila wanachofanya ni kushinda madarasa wakisoma tu,
vipi tukiweka huo mjadala kwamba hivi msomi ni yupi? ni mwenye vyeti au mtu kama SHIGOGO au Mengi?
maana zamani hakukuwa na madarasa wala mavyeti na wasomi walikuwepo, na walikuwa na specialty yaani wakisoma kitu wana bombea, nazani huu utakuwa mjadala mzuri wa ku inspire vijana ili wasishinda madarasa kutafuta MBA,MA, MD,LLW, BA, BSC, PGD, Msc, MPH,

 

[VIKWAZO]

Mkuu mbona hapo umejichanganya na kujitia kitanzi shingoni?. If somebody tells you: "Yes uprooting the ruling party from power will automatically solve all other problems because the ruling party has messed up our political environment, economy and social settings" what would be your answer?

kwanza lugha yake mbaya inaonekana communication skills aliyosema hakuna ilichomsaidia, ujumbe wake ni ngumu kufikia walengwa effectively

 

[The Planner]

Kigwangala you don't need a PhD to know that, what we are missing is just Good governance. To all the problems/challenges you have mentioned we have solutions to them except Good governance!

 

[Mwana Mtoka Pabaya]

Very simple!

It is for your party to step down and go to Hell where you belong. One bitter remedy for all diseases caused by CCM.

 

[ChescoMatunda]

Ngoja Anza na kubadili mfumo wa siasa basi utakuwa umebadili njia zote za kimaendeleo Lakini Leo tukijadili kuondoa chama chako ccm kama mlango mpya wa kukabili changamoto zetu uko tayari au unaangalia tuu njia mpya za maendeleo kwa jicho lako moja pekee? Umekuwa ndani ya mfumo huo mmoja usioleta tija kwa muda mrefu sana bila kuubadili hutoona mlango wa kutokea zaidi ya kutafuta namna ya kufia humo. Tafakari chukua hatua HKigwangalla

 

[Limbani]

the problem with many members is that of focusing on individuals. you hate mwigulu as an individual. we better discuss national problems. I don't believe that all civil servants who spoil our resources by dealing in corruption are ccm members. civil servants belong to different political parties. some are pro chadema, cuf, nccr etc.. it is high time we unite and consider our nation first then our parties

Mkuu hao wote ni wanafiki, wengekuwa kweli ni wanaotaka umoja wangezuia motion ya Mnyika kuunda Baraza la Vijana bungeni. Ile ingekuwa platform nzuri ya kukutanisha vijana wote Tanzania bila kujali rangi, dini, vyama wala kabila... Lakini CCM kwa maslahi yao ili waendelee kubaki madarakani hawataki kuwe na umoja wa kitaifa. Angalia walivyompiga vita Prof. Tibaijuka wakati anataka kuanzika Baraza la Wanawake Tanzania, mama wa watu mwisho akakubali yaishe kajiunga nao naye kawa "zimwa". Same as Madame Sitta na CWT yake.. Huwezi kuwa CCM na kusisitiza unatetea maslahi ya TAIFA, wao kwanza ni CCM then Taifa baadae. Wanajiaminisha kuwa wao wameumbwa kutawala wengine!!

 

[Raia Fulani]

Halafu mnataka solution ya matatizo wakati mikakati imejaa hadi inanyewa na panya na mende na wadudu wengine. Ndugu kigwangala, toa majibu ya haya ninayoorodhesha hapa.
1. Vision 2025 (hope so)
2. Mkukuta
3. Mkurabita
4. Kilimo kwanza
5. Mara big results now
6. Mara mkakati wa rais wa miaka 5
Kwa kutapatapa huku unadhani wananchi na wizara na isara husika zitashika lipi na kuacha lipi?

 

[salimkabora]

Colleagues,

I am thinking of using this forum and other online fora to catalyse discussions on how we use our potentials to bring about change in our country. I need us to use the internet as an opportunity to do something about our daunting challenges as Tanzanians and therefore I expect contributions that would enlighten us or which provide solutions for furtherance of our development cause. The premise behind this is that; a lot of people concentrate and thus waste a lot of time looking at one closed door instead of exploring for possibilities of many other open doors. Many people focus on just talking about the challenges we face as a nation instead of working hard to find solutions about them. A lot of us focus on looking up to the government for solutions instead of working hard to offer solutions. Some few young elites, and of course even our mentors/teachers, have become myopic and thus are looking only on one thing - uprooting the ruling party. Is it the only door open? What about other options like forging partnerships? What about adopting political consultation systems to govern our economy?

To me the following forms the major challenges we face today as a nation: poverty and food security, unemployment, illiteracy, diseases, energy paucity, widening inequities, maintaining peace and security, poor mindset, poorly performing institutions, and having a true form of democracy...not just having elections and winning the majority votes but how do we protect the rights of the minorities? How about the rule of law?

To address the problems we face, I suggest the following: we embark on major reforms on our institutions that govern our politics, economics and social fabrics. We have a golden opportunity now that we are in the process of writing our new constitution. What do you think? Lets enjoy a fruitful discussion here.

Jadilianeni ndani ya sisiem yenu huko mvuane magamba kwanza muache kuitafuna nchi na kupeana vyeo kwa upendeleo na kushinda chaguzi zote kwa pesa. Tuanzie hapo kama bado maendeleo itakuwa hamna ndio turudi tujadili humu. Hatuwezi kujadili jibu lililoko wazi ni sawa na kujilisha upepo na hutashiba ujue.

 

[SoNotorious]

Fruitful discussion will be available if you will translate this same old shit in our second language(swahili). Using this third language of ours is senseless and i just cant understand which audience you try to address to.

 

[idea]

Tafadhali andika kwa kiswahili

 

[PSPA Pure'12 udsm]

I can add nothing on your analysis, CCM is heavily investing on corruption during elections instead of Kilimo kwanza projects as I witnessed Ng'ang'ange during by-ection right this June ....Kingwalla be serious!

 

[HKigwangalla]

Brothers and Sisters,

Thank you for your contributions. I have read and keenly considered all of them.

Starting a discussion does not mean you should be there to provide answers...forum discussants should learn to discuss issues critically as many have done in this thread. I, however, was expecting counter-arguments from amongst the contributors so as to have some issues taken care of by many minds and not just expect that I am the only one to provide answers.

Setting records straight, let me clarify that I am writing here on my own self, based on my self - reflections, and not in any way as a Member of any political party or in my capacity as a Member of Parliament, and that I have no any hidden agenda far from being a concerned statesman. I wish others should take off their veils and comment in this thread as concerned Tanzanians. And let me suggest that all those wishing to fire abuses on me or the government that find another way to do so because they are wasting our time and space as well as theirs.

I will contribute my few cents on some eye-catching points as follows:

1. Corruption is a failure of the ruling party - my contribution is no, big no! Because the whole society is depleted of ethics and the few engaging in corruption are the product of the whole...you cant blame a part for the wrongs committed by the whole...for instance most of the cases of signing shady contracts - selling our resources or issuing tenders is done by people who are neutral or don't even have CCM membership cards, these are technocrats from whom most of you belong. Today a job at TRA is a big deal, not because of an attractive remuneration package but because there are opportunities for tips or any extra income. Today being employed in a position that involve traveling abroad or attending seminars is attractive because there is an opportunity for making some extra cash in terms of allowances/per diem. GREED and SELFISHNESS is at the center, disregarding whether you are CCM or not! Thus this is a social problem that requires lasting socially-wide approaches to eliminate. Systems and institutions that would correct and ward this off have to be designed and enforced - perhaps should be included in our upcoming new constitution. Whether a person, leader or a corporate body is corrupt is an outcome of a system that is raring that, reforming the system should close all lacunae.

2. I agree with sentiments that we are poor in setting priorities and working hard in finding means to take action on meeting the implementation of projects focusing on our priority sets.

3. Good governance - we have a working constitution, and we have political systems that supports good governance. We need to work harder on reforming our politics to get read of political competition and embark on a new system that calls for political consultation, negotiations and consensus building among political parties.

4. One contributor said that of the challenges I stated, 75% are social and only 25% are political and economical. If this was statistically proven to be the case then one should have agreed with me that changing political parties is never a solution because the source of our failures are embedded amongst all of us, as individual Tanzanians and as a society, and are not based on our ideological allegiance...so you put a left, center or right-sided party the outcome would be the same - failures! And when you do that and wait for money and riches to poor in at your doorsteps and it doesn't happen you would realize that the source of your poverty and or backwardness was not the uprooted ruling party, and it will then be too late! We have an opportunity as a country today that we have other countries which started with similar situations as ours and made it, we can learn from these ones without making mistakes, and doing that we could shorten the road that we have to pass through to achieve our development goals.

5. The rural - urban divide ; we should reform the systems for delivery of our social services so as to respond to the existing challenges of socioeconomic disparities between regions, between rural and urban areas, between genders, and between people from different social status.

6. I totally subscribe to the argument of one contributor ( Kingo ) who asserts that our legal and political systems should be reformed to allow for increased responsibility and accountability in our budgets, policies and commitments. I just would add that our systems should be reformed to reward hard work to those who deserve, and on the other hand punish wrong-doers, to set examples to others and deter them, thus instil discipline and adherence to acceptable codes of ethical conduct.

Lastly, it could be CCM has woken up from the timeless slumber that had befallen our nation since independence, it could be that CCM is clear to the causes of our failures/backwardness and it is opening up to such a major historical reform, and that is why it is spearheading the process to write our new constitution, thus creating a formidable opportunity for us re-design our political, economical and social systems from the 'mother' document - the constitution. Lets think ahead, beyond our party lines, and perhaps we could see light at the end of the tunnel, finally!

Now commenting on this discussion means 'Doing Something About It!' Let's be positive and find ways to enlighten ourselves and forge ahead as a nation and not as stalwarts of our political parts. To register any notable success we have to have a strategy, as I have always believed, and having the right and working strategy entails to be 'different', so lets think differently, lets act differently! No country in Africa that has moved along the common tides has registered notable success, so now lets think moving against the tides...it will be tough but at least we would know that we have a tougher route to traverse so we shall prepare.

I pray that you, my fellow countrymen, shall respond to this jibe seriously thus I expect we would enjoy fruitful discussions.

Best,
HK.

 

[JIULIZE KWANZA]

Mtaiga Mpaka kifo andika Kiswahili ungesomeka zaidi ----



QUOTE=HKigwangalla;6649831]Colleagues,

I am thinking of using this forum and other online fora to catalyse discussions on how we use our potentials to bring about change in our country. I need us to use the internet as an opportunity to do something about our daunting challenges as Tanzanians and therefore I expect contributions that would enlighten us or which provide solutions for furtherance of our development cause. The premise behind this is that; a lot of people concentrate and thus waste a lot of time looking at one closed door instead of exploring for possibilities of many other open doors. Many people focus on just talking about the challenges we face as a nation instead of working hard to find solutions for them. A lot of us focus on looking up to the government for solutions instead of working hard to offer solutions. Some few young elites, and of course even our mentors/teachers, have become myopic and thus are looking only on one thing - uprooting the ruling party. Is it the only door open? What about other options like forging partnerships? What about adopting political consultation systems to govern our economy?

To me the following forms the major challenges we face today as a nation: poverty and food security, unemployment, illiteracy, diseases, energy paucity, widening inequities, maintaining peace and security, poor mindset, poorly performing institutions, and having a true form of democracy...not just having elections and winning the majority votes but how do we protect the rights of the minorities? How about the rule of law?

To address the problems we face, I suggest the following: we embark on major reforms on our institutions that govern our politics, economics and social fabrics. We have a golden opportunity now that we are in the process of writing our new constitution. What do you think? Lets enjoy a fruitful discussion here.[/QUOTE]

 

[kwamtoro]

Angeandikika kiswahili, sasa hivi tungekuwa page ya 15.
Nyerere mbaya!!!

 

[Radhia Sweety]

Mngejua viingereza zenu vilivyokuwa vibovu wala msingethubutu kujiaibisha bure tu humu. Ovyo kabisa

 

[fredito13]

HK,

Am still concerned about a number of challenges that you haven't given any clarifications.

75% of our problems you mentioned are social problems; still we have to alter our political system to build strong society! Moral decay in political parties attributes to moral decay in the society! Strong economy in the country will help to improve social status of the people! Having stable and strong economy will improve social services, will help to increase employment opportunities as well as improve food security in the country. Therefore, we cannot ignore political and economic systems in improving social status of our communities.

For those who asks what you have done - I definitely support the idea of asking your efforts to combat the problems you have mentioned. You're a leader - democratically elected by people in your constituency to help them improve their living standard! If you do Personal Performance Appraisal, what has changed in your constituency since 2010 you were elected? How many employment have you created? How many dispensaries and health centres have been built or rehabilitated? How many roads? Any improvement in the agricultural sector (market and inputs availability and accessibility, technical support from extension officers)?
Mind you, all the challenges you mentioned are the parameters that will be used to judge your performance in 2015!

all who have commented on this thread are Tanzanians, and deeply concerned with the issues you arouse! They are just a bit amazed how someone of your position could ask something like that! Some are frustrated and feels like you are trying to make some funny with their minds! But their anger is purely based on the situation prevailing in the country! All the insults coming to you would be directed to 90% of CCM MPs because you support the party than the country!

Regards,
Fredito.

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