Finally, they are telling us.. !!

[Kapinga]

In just Dont wonder why this Prof. is saying this,if you can remember when Georgr tald african leader when he first came into power.'America was like africa 100 years ago'.so it is the same thing.

unajua mpaka leo huwa najiuliza ni kitu gani kizuri kimebadilika Afrika mpaka bush akakupenda hivi??[/QUOTE

Bush ajapenda kitu..he was on holiday (plus he is bad news for the republican campaigns..no one wants to be affiliated with him now)..africa is an exotic continent..its a place were the white man can see POVERTY!! YES ITS AN ATTRACTION..WHITE PEOPLE CAN TRAVEL TO AFRICA AND SEE CORRUPTION FIRST HAND...SEE BAD GOVERNANCE AND EXTREME CORRUPTION AND POOR PEOPLE maybe we shud advertise poverty instead of kilimanjaro and zanzibar it cud be out saviour!!...we will never be as developed as the west!! thats the harsh reality...ona south africa with all the economic might bado maisha ya uozo for the majority...i think we were better off sellin each other and walkin naked!! mambo ya western political and economic systems has created a peoples LOST IN LIMBO!!! WE WILL BE LOST FOREVER!!!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Hivi bado kuna watu wanaamini Afrika itakuja kuendelea? Let alone tanzania?

Wapo aisee....

 

[Steve Dii]

Wapo aisee....

Lost hope...

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Lost hope...

Keepin it real playa playa

 

[Steve Dii]

Kapinga, respect bruv, but word sh**t ain't desirable on this open forum....(unless you are in mambo ya kikubwa) you will have our browers blocked by filters at workplaces. Thanks.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Sasa hakuna njia ya mkato? Tulipopata Uhuru tulikuwa kwenye experiment ya kujenga Taifa, what happened? Kwanini tuliacha kulijenga Taifa na kuanza kufurahia vitu vya kuingizwa nchini? Tulikuwa na viwanda vya nguo, n.k kwanini tuliamua kuviacha na kuagiza mitumba? Tulikuwaga na SWALA sijui bado kipo au kimengia Ubia... what happened? Kwanini tuliacha kulijenga Taifa na kuanza kulitafuna halafu leo tunashangaa itatuchukua karibu nusu karne kuona matokeo ya jasho letu?

 

[Obe]

Wakati mwingine unaweza kuwakubali watu wenye mawazo ya 'kijinga'wanaoamini kuwa watu wanaotufukarisha watanzania ni wasomi wetu
UKISHIBA, USIMWONYESHE MUNGU TUMBO

 

[Kapinga]

Kapinga, respect bruv, but word sh**t ain't desirable on this open forum....(unless you are in mambo ya kikubwa) you will have our browers blocked by filters at workplaces. Thanks.

oops..ntakuwa nimejisahau..wer did i use the word??

 

[Hussein Abdallah]

Economic growth hard to feel - BoT

2008-04-03 08:50:28
By Lydia Shekighenda

The Bank of Tanzania (BoT) has projected that it will be between three and four decades before ordinary wananchi ``feel`` the country`s economic growth.

This is according to BoT Governor Benno Ndulu in a presentation at a forum for researchers and decision-makers in Dar es Salaam yesterday.

Prof Ndulu`s presentation centred on the challenges of growth Tanzania was contending with and was made at an annual research workshop organised by Research on Poverty Alleviation (Repoa).

The BoT chief argued that it was impossible for the results of economic growth to be felt within a short period, adding: ``Last year Tanzania`s economy was projected to have grown by 7.3 per cent.

If we had managed to grow consecutively for a period of 30 to 40 years, then the outcome would have been felt right down to the grassroots level.``

He recommended that greater attention be directed at areas with great potential of leading to positive results in the economy if given the right support.

``We should not focus only on how the economy is growing but also on areas able to provide greater opportunities to our people. This approach could be termed as pro-poor growth,`` he said.

The professor explained that Tanzania`s economy has improved much over the years in terms of structure, sources of growth and exports ``but one of the major challenges ahead is making sure that the country sustains these changes``.

``We should not focus only on how to improve agriculture by providing loans and subsidies on agricultural inputs but we should also come up with strategies with the capacity to bring about positive changes to our economy,`` he pointed out.

The central bank governor also underscored the need for local investors to contribute more substantially to the creation and strengthening of a vibrant private sector.

Opening the workshop, Industry, Trade and Marketing deputy minister Cyril Chami said it was possible to attain and sustain the country`s domestic and global development targets if they were based on a sound domestic economy.

Achievements based mainly on external resources were bound to face problems of sustainability, he asserted, noting that salvation lay in having the country focus on ``the refinement of its growth strategy - which must be brought into sharp focus within the development agenda``.

Repoa executive director Joseph Semboja said the forum has grown into the largest and longest running annual event hosted by his institution.

This year`s participants included researchers, central and local government officials, private sector players, and representatives of civil society organisations, and the donor community.

My Take:
I thought they could just push a button of development no waiting, no time lapsing, no hardship just kavoom!! We have to wait.. that means it'll be about 80 years after independence!! Is this reasonable.. why it couldn't have be done yesterday!!!? This one I blame Nyerere too, it is taking us too long!!!! Why Nyerere why? WE could have been like ze yunaitedi steti of america.

Why can't we just have rapid change? Why Ndulu why? Why do we have to wait? Why can't the government just make it possible? Nyerere is no longer there, in 40 years most of these people would not be here (probably me too).. so why even bother!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Huyu ndiye mtaalamu mwenyewe ambaye majuzi kapewa ukuu kwa Mbwembwe na kila mara haishi matamko tata ?

 

[Steve Dii]

oops..ntakuwa ntakuwa nimejisahau..wer did i use the word??

....poouwa tu, nami naona imetoweka!! no evidence or may be my browser is just playing tricks on me ha ha

 

[Kapinga]

....poouwa tu, nami naona imetoweka!! no evidence or may be my browser is just playing tricks on me ha ha

Riiight!!!!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Sasa hakuna njia ya mkato? Tulipopata Uhuru tulikuwa kwenye experiment ya kujenga Taifa, what happened? Kwanini tuliacha kulijenga Taifa na kuanza kufurahia vitu vya kuingizwa nchini? Tulikuwa na viwanda vya nguo, n.k kwanini tuliamua kuviacha na kuagiza mitumba? Tulikuwaga na SWALA sijui bado kipo au kimengia Ubia... what happened? Kwanini tuliacha kulijenga Taifa na kuanza kulitafuna halafu leo tunashangaa itatuchukua karibu nusu karne kuona matokeo ya jasho letu?

Good point!!
Nikisema ni ujinga kubomoa kitu unachojenga nitakuwa nimekosea?

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Good point!!
Nikisema ni ujinga kubomoa kitu unachojenga nitakuwa nimekosea?

Nyani, tulianza vizuri kulijenga Taifa; Mwinyi akaingia akaona hakuna haja ya kulijenga Taifa, twende tuagize vitu tu yaishe.. watu wakafurahia kuwa hatimaye vitu "bwelele", tukafunga viwanda vyetu, tukabinafsisha vitu vya msingi, tukasimamisha hata JKT, na hatimaye tukabakia hatuna cha kwetu. tukaanza "kulitafuna" taifa.

Sasa tumelitafuna hadi watu washtuka; jamani mbona mnalitafuna Taifa hivyo? Kwa hiyo maneno yako hayako mbali; tulipoacha kulijenda Taifa, tulianza kulibomoa!

 

[Mshamba wa Kijijini]

sio mawazo ya "kijinga" mimi nina hakika zaidi ya asilimia 100 ni kweli wasomi waliopewa nafasi ndio chanzo cha umaskini wa afrika hasa Tanzania.
mfano; wamezindua regulatory authority nyingi sasa hivi ,EWURA, SUMATRA n.k umewahi kujiuliza EWURA wanakata asilimia ngapi kwenye bili za wateja wa TANESCO? lengo la pesa hizo nini hasa? je EWURA inamlinda nani serikali, TANESCO au mteja(mwananchi)? nani alipaswa kubeba msalaba wa ewura, ni sahihi awe mwananchi kweli? mbona TRA hakuna makato yaliyo bayana kulipwa TRA moja kwa moja na hazina kwa upande wa pili,kama ilivyo Tanesco na ewura wanavyofanya? uko wapi mchango wa serikali kuu kwa ewura? kama bei ya umeme ni kubwa kwa mlaji wa mwisho, kwanini ewura isilipwe na serikali ama na tanesco na idara zilizo chini yake moja kwa moja? mlipaji umeme analipia ewura, biliya mwezi tanesco na service charge at the same time, nafasi ya tanesco kwa ewura mnaiona wapi? kuna kitu hapa nadhani tunajiingiza kichwa kichwa lakini wasomi wetu hamsemi na mnajidai hakuna tofauti.

service charge ya nani na kwa muda gani haya mambo ya jumla yalikwisha enzi za analog leo digital mtu hujafanyiwa service, charge inatoka wapi? hata kuandika bili ni service charge? nguzo analipia mteja gharama za kuunganishia initialy alilipa mteja wiring anafanya mteja jamani huu ni wiziiiiiii!!!! mbona benki ATM ukishatumia ndo inakatwa pesa bila kutumia inabakia ile tu ya mwisho wa mwezi hawa tanesco yao hiyo ni ipi? ewura wanahusikaje na pesa ya mtu wanayemlinda asipandishiwe bei? ni sahihi kumlipa mlinzi pesa yako ili adhibiti majambazi ambao unajua tarehe yao ya kuja kukuvamia? si ingekuwepo bodi tu ya kukutana ikiwa tanesco wanataka kuongeza bei ili ijadili kama ni sahihi ama sio sahihi? ewura kila siku wanafanya nini na bili za wateja wa tanesco ama kila siku wanatetea tanesco isitoe risiti zenye bei kubwa?

sisi ni mbumbumbu tuanze upya!!!!

naombeni mnipe makusanyo ya ewura kwa kila mwezi na tuchambua kazi zao za kila mwezi tuone uwiano wa budget na kazi zao nawahakikishi tunaibiwa tuuuuuu!!!!

nani anasema bili ya umeme tanzania ni aghali halafu anaongeza asilimia za ewura? wanatuchezea tu tunakubali tuanzie madogo haya yanayozidi bilioni 133 za EPA tuangalie 'collection sio figure'

 

[Hussein Abdallah]

sio mawazo ya "kijinga" mimi nina hakika zaidi ya asilimia 100 ni kweli wasomi waliopewa nafasi ndio chanzo cha umaskini wa afrika hasa Tanzania.
mfano; wamezindua regulatory authority nyingi sasa hivi ,EWURA, SUMATRA n.k umewahi kujiuliza EWURA wanakata asilimia ngapi kwenye bili za wateja wa TANESCO? lengo la pesa hizo nini hasa? je EWURA inamlinda nani serikali, TANESCO au mteja(mwananchi)? nani alipaswa kubeba msalaba wa ewura, ni sahihi awe mwananchi kweli? mbona TRA hakuna makato yaliyo bayana kulipwa TRA moja kwa moja na hazina kwa upande wa pili,kama ilivyo Tanesco na ewura wanavyofanya? uko wapi mchango wa serikali kuu kwa ewura? kama bei ya umeme ni kubwa kwa mlaji wa mwisho, kwanini ewura isilipwe na serikali ama na tanesco na idara zilizo chini yake moja kwa moja? mlipaji umeme analipia ewura, biliya mwezi tanesco na service charge at the same time, nafasi ya tanesco kwa ewura mnaiona wapi? kuna kitu hapa nadhani tunajiingiza kichwa kichwa lakini wasomi wetu hamsemi na mnajidai hakuna tofauti.

service charge ya nani na kwa muda gani haya mambo ya jumla yalikwisha enzi za analog leo digital mtu hujafanyiwa service, charge inatoka wapi? hata kuandika bili ni service charge? nguzo analipia mteja gharama za kuunganishia initialy alilipa mteja wiring anafanya mteja jamani huu ni wiziiiiiii!!!! mbona benki ATM ukishatumia ndo inakatwa pesa bila kutumia inabakia ile tu ya mwisho wa mwezi hawa tanesco yao hiyo ni ipi? ewura wanahusikaje na pesa ya mtu wanayemlinda asipandishiwe bei? ni sahihi kumlipa mlinzi pesa yako ili adhibiti majambazi ambao unajua tarehe yao ya kuja kukuvamia? si ingekuwepo bodi tu ya kukutana ikiwa tanesco wanataka kuongeza bei ili ijadili kama ni sahihi ama sio sahihi? ewura kila siku wanafanya nini na bili za wateja wa tanesco ama kila siku wanatetea tanesco isitoe risiti zenye bei kubwa?

sisi ni mbumbumbu tuanze upya!!!!

naombeni mnipe makusanyo ya ewura kwa kila mwezi na tuchambua kazi zao za kila mwezi tuone uwiano wa budget na kazi zao nawahakikishi tunaibiwa tuuuuuu!!!!

nani anasema bili ya umeme tanzania ni aghali halafu anaongeza asilimia za ewura? wanatuchezea tu tunakubali tuanzie madogo haya yanayozidi bilioni 133 za EPA tuangalie 'collection sio figure'

Ewura wanaleta nafuu gani kwa mwananchi kama mimi na wewe kijijini ?

 

[Nzokanhyilu]

HOLD THE PRESS!!

kabla hatujaanza kutoa lawama. Naomba mnielezee kitu.

Tanzania iliaanza kusikiliza IMF na WorldBank lini? Je ni kipindi hicho hicho Mwinyi aliingia? Was it game over for Nyerere?

 

[Killuminati]

At least this guy is being honest for a change, anyway this thing is contrasting with what mkulo said couple of wks ago!! So which is which uchumi unakua au haukui???

 

[Mushobozi]

Yeah yeah yeah......

i like your argument, i dislike your signiture

 

[Steve Dii]

At least this guy is being honest for a change, anyway this thing is contrasting with what mkulo said couple of wks ago!! So which is which uchumi unakua au haukui???

..... tumeukalia!

 

[Mpita Njia]

chukuwa hizo hela za EPA X 1000 wape watanzania badowatakuwa maskini. the issue here ni macroeconomic policies.. pamoja nakujenga microeconomy.

Pamoja na wizi na ufisadi wake, lakini Mkapa alijitahidi kujenga basics za macroeconomy kiasi kwamba economic indicators kama inflation na thamani ya sarafu ilikuwa stable.
Wakati anaondoka madarakani, alisisitiza kuwa kinachotakiwa kwa anayemfuatia ni kuhakikisha kuwa anaimarisha microeconomy, ili gains za macro economy zi-trickle down kwa wananchi wa kawaida.
Yaani ni kuwa alishamtafunia JK na alitakiwa kumeza tu, lakini yeye hata kumeza kumemshinda!
Inaelekea JK ni fisadi kuliko Mkapa!