How many months since threats were issued?
Fastjet still awaits clearance for Nairobi flights as results again improve
Fastjet still awaits clearance for Nairobi flights as results again improve
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How many months since threats were issued?
Geza Ulole
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they said if no clearance is awarded to Fastjet in this month a revoke of licence will be issued since BASA Agreement between Kenya and Tanzania will be violated!
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Hahaha! I just wish to tell you that Fastjet is setting up in Kenya as a subsidiary or a kenyan company and not a Tanzanian company.Ownership by Kenyans will be over or exactly 51%.
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so is in Tanzania you need to brush yourself with the issue! Fastjet Tanzania is 51% owned by Tanzanians as we speak and the contencious point was refusal by KAA to let Fastjet TZ operate on routes such as Dar-Nairobi, Dar-Mombasa, Zanzibar-Nairobi, Zanzibar-Mombasa, Kilimanjaro-Nairobi, Kilimanjaro-Mombasa.
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Your problem is that you think Fastjet Tanzania are the ones who applied for the license, Fastjet, is looking to set up Fastjet Kenya similar to Fastjet Tanzania here, so I don't see why you're ever complaining.It will be a Kenyan company, operating flights to the requested destinations in and out of Kenya,Tanzania and your Fastjet can not be affected, and you should therefore stop this obsession, since its a. Kenyan- Scottish-Fastjet issue
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you the one who don't grasp my argument whether Fastjet UK or Fastjet Tanzania the bottom line is Kenya is protectionist and Fastjet TZ has asked to operate routes to Kenya from Tanzania and has been refused because KAA knows pretty well their KQ and Jambojet can't compete with Fastjet! FYI none of Tanzanian will board Kenyan airline the moment Fastjet starts to operate Kenyan bound routes cause Kenyan airlines have been stealing from passengers with exorbitant fees so you will have to pay the prize! BTW Tanzanian market comes third after Kenyan, UAE as a source of revenue! Add that loss to this market to the US$ 200 mln loss KQ is having and the debt of the new aircraft is procuring the future looks dim!
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Save your breathe bro,I have lost count how many times I have tried pointing that out to this geezer. He will keep repeatin the same thing over and over and over like a broken record.
He has an intense fixation with Kenya and anything kenyan.
I chose to view his wishes and hopes that kenyan investments, and its economy at large founder laughable.
Kenya is indeed a great country. Geza Ulole, carry on with your evil musings lakini usisahau mlivosema nyi waswahili kuhusu dua la kuku...
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Kenya is protectionist, the answer lays here the quy interviewed is general manager for Fastjet EA the office of which are in Tanzania and he speaks on behalf of Fastjet Tanzania! Tilll you learn one or two things about budget airline mode of operation you will know everything about Fastjet is done in Tanzania except shares in London. Open up the route for fastjet Tanzania (51% owned by Tanzania)
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No country has allowed more foreign investments within its borders in this region as Kenya. We have never had this paranoia that our economy will be run by foreigners like u Tanzanians.
How many times have u,Geza,taunted Kenya's economy as foreign controlled and that we are western stooges?
Now why are u demanding that we allow a foreign airline to operate in our country at the expense of the local ones? You are twisted.
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FastJet Looks at Tanzania-Kenya Flights Amid Rights Delay
by Eric Ombok
10:00 PM CET
January 27, 2015
(Bloomberg) -- FastJet Plc said it expects to begin flights from Kenya within six months of receiving a permit from the East African nation's regulator, which has delayed issuing a license after an objection by regional rival Kenya Airways Ltd.
"We have actually met all the necessary criteria," FastJet General Manager for East Africa Jimmy Kibati said in an interview Tuesday in the capital, Nairobi. The company operates in Tanzania and has a license in Zambia. Chief Executive Officer Ed Winter said in August it plans to carry 6 million passengers on 24 aircraft by 2018.
FastJet's Kenyan unit was registered in January 2013 and made an application for an air-service license in August 2014. The Kenya Civil Aviation Authority began conducting due diligence on FastJet's submission and is still considering the issue, Mutia Mwandikwa, a spokesman for the regulator, said by phone.
As a first step toward entering the Kenyan market, FastJet's Tanzanian unit may first begin operating flights from Tanzania's commercial capital, Dar es Salaam, to Nairobi. That would require renegotiation of a bi-lateral air-services agreement between the Tanzanian and Kenyan governments.
"We are waiting for both states to renegotiate the bilateral agreement so that they can allow FastJet Tanzania to fly to Kenya," Kibati said.
‘Price Wars'
Kenya Airways, which is 29.8 percent owned by the government, is the only carrier that flies the Nairobi-Dar es Salaam direct route, with five daily flights.
"This is an industry dominated by Kenya Airways so it is likely to intensify price wars" in the event the carrier cuts fares to defend its market share, Faith Atiti, a research analyst at Nairobi-based CBA Capital Ltd., said by phone.
To begin operations in Kenya, FastJet will require as many as 80 employees, Kibati said. The carrier has already begun recruiting senior staff, including a head of flight operations, head of cabin crew and head of safety and quality, Kibati said.
Once it gains approval to begin operations in Kenya, the airline plans to have flights between Nairobi, the port city of Mombasa and the western towns of Eldoret and Kisumu. It will later consider flights to Wajir in northern Kenya and Lamu at the coast, among other towns, he said.
"This model that we are trying to bring here is not just to serve markets that are well served, but also markets that are not well served or not served at all or served by very small planes," Kibati said.
FastJet Tanzania reported a profit in December, the first monthly surplus since it began operations in East Africa's second-biggest economy on Nov. 29, 2012, he said.
FastJet's shares dropped 1.9 percent to 1.275 pence by noon in London, paring its gain so far this year to 82 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
To contact the reporter on this story: Eric Ombok in Nairobi at eombok@bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Alastair Reed at areed12@bloomberg.net
Paul Richardson, Ana Monteiro
by Eric Ombok
10:00 PM CET
January 27, 2015
(Bloomberg) -- FastJet Plc said it expects to begin flights from Kenya within six months of receiving a permit from the East African nation's regulator, which has delayed issuing a license after an objection by regional rival Kenya Airways Ltd.
"We have actually met all the necessary criteria," FastJet General Manager for East Africa Jimmy Kibati said in an interview Tuesday in the capital, Nairobi. The company operates in Tanzania and has a license in Zambia. Chief Executive Officer Ed Winter said in August it plans to carry 6 million passengers on 24 aircraft by 2018.
FastJet's Kenyan unit was registered in January 2013 and made an application for an air-service license in August 2014. The Kenya Civil Aviation Authority began conducting due diligence on FastJet's submission and is still considering the issue, Mutia Mwandikwa, a spokesman for the regulator, said by phone.
As a first step toward entering the Kenyan market, FastJet's Tanzanian unit may first begin operating flights from Tanzania's commercial capital, Dar es Salaam, to Nairobi. That would require renegotiation of a bi-lateral air-services agreement between the Tanzanian and Kenyan governments.
"We are waiting for both states to renegotiate the bilateral agreement so that they can allow FastJet Tanzania to fly to Kenya," Kibati said.
‘Price Wars'
Kenya Airways, which is 29.8 percent owned by the government, is the only carrier that flies the Nairobi-Dar es Salaam direct route, with five daily flights.
"This is an industry dominated by Kenya Airways so it is likely to intensify price wars" in the event the carrier cuts fares to defend its market share, Faith Atiti, a research analyst at Nairobi-based CBA Capital Ltd., said by phone.
To begin operations in Kenya, FastJet will require as many as 80 employees, Kibati said. The carrier has already begun recruiting senior staff, including a head of flight operations, head of cabin crew and head of safety and quality, Kibati said.
Once it gains approval to begin operations in Kenya, the airline plans to have flights between Nairobi, the port city of Mombasa and the western towns of Eldoret and Kisumu. It will later consider flights to Wajir in northern Kenya and Lamu at the coast, among other towns, he said.
"This model that we are trying to bring here is not just to serve markets that are well served, but also markets that are not well served or not served at all or served by very small planes," Kibati said.
FastJet Tanzania reported a profit in December, the first monthly surplus since it began operations in East Africa's second-biggest economy on Nov. 29, 2012, he said.
FastJet's shares dropped 1.9 percent to 1.275 pence by noon in London, paring its gain so far this year to 82 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
To contact the reporter on this story: Eric Ombok in Nairobi at eombok@bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Alastair Reed at areed12@bloomberg.net
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[h=2]The bad boys among the East African aviation authorities …[/h]Posted by Aviation, Tourism and Conservation news - DAILY from Eastern Africa and the Indian Ocean islands inUncategorized. Leave a Comment
KENYA'S AVIATION REGULATORS BECOME EAST AFRICA'S BOGEY MAN
(Posted 30th January 2015)
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Ugandan journalists invited for the inaugural flight by RwandAir from Entebbe to Nairobi, alerted by comments made at the speeches prior to the flight about various challenges and obstacles encountered, were all geared up to ask the representative/s of Kenya's aviation regulator some hard questions at the venue of the launch party, the EKU Hotel.
There was however some bitter disappointment among the scribes when they came to notice that, after the speeches were delivered and the champagne corks popped, it was only RwandAir's General Manager Commercial Mikael Gobena who was ready to answer questions while the representative of the KCAA who was present at the launch, had conveniently absented himself.
Uganda had granted RwandAir fifth freedom rights to a number of destinations out of Entebbe last year and according to the airline's CEO John Mirenge it took a mere two days to tie up the paperwork and sign and seal the deal which saw RwandAir become Uganda's adopted now home airline.
In contrast did it take months of deadlocked negotiations with the Kenyan aviation authorities, the impasse only broken when the Heads of State of the Northern Corridor Integration, aka Coalition of the Willing, on the 11th of December directed their respective bureaucrats to open up the East African skies by 31st of December, or else.
It now appears that the Kenyan regulators can brace themselves for the 'or else' experience as it has become clear just how hard they tried to frustrate RwandAir's efforts to operationalize the fifth freedom rights between Entebbe and Nairobi.
December 31st came and passed and still did the Kenyan regulators continue to play their games, and when RwandAir finally announced a launch date it had to be withdrawn just two days later when suddenly the issue of 'slot times' was raised, further delaying the inaugural flight. From both insiders as well as direct investigations it became clear, that once that issue was finally put to rest did the Kenyan regulators then spring yet another surprise on RwandAir, capping the capacity on the Entebbe – Nairobi flight, which originates from Kigali and returns to Kigali from Nairobi, to a reported 40 percent.
RwandAir however, it seems, is not taking this latest insult laying down and has already objected to this final obstacle. This is perhaps the reason at this moment in time that a second daily flight has been pushed until at least April, to allow for this final hurdle, one hopes it is the final hurdle, to be cleared.
A source from Kigali was specific in suggesting, that the matter may well be referred to the next Head of State meeting and if so, would no doubt show Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta that there are forces at work in his administration aimed to defy his directive and slow down the integration process. The main purpose after all was to open the skies over the three countries, plus Southern Sudan which was part of the meeting in December, and bring the cost of air travel down to make it more affordable for wider parts of the population.
'The Kenyans are playing with fire here' said an aviation source from Uganda before continuing 'The directive on the 11th December was very clear and yet has KCAA managed to obstruct and delay. This went so far to even allow another Kenyan airline to fly from Nairobi to Entebbe and yet there is no Ugandan airline flying from Entebbe to Nairobi. Our UCAA gave that new Kenyan airlines traffic rights with no ifs and buts and no such conditions. UCAA also made RwandAir our designate airline when they gave them fifth freedom rights, or as you call them our adopted airline. Kenya has no right to obstruct us in this way. In a coalition of the willing all elements have to be willing and no single partner should play foul all the time. And this is what the Kenyans have done, played foul. Have they learned nothing from their spats with Tanzania? Do they want to have an air war with us too?'.
This correspondent in fact had intended to ask the Kenyan CAA representative what exactly their problem is with the application by Fastjet to commence scheduled flights from Dar es Salaam to Nairobi, and being in possession of a transcript made by a participant in the meeting between the Kenyan and Tanzanian delegation at the sidelines of ICAN in Bali last year, it will be interesting to see what will happen next or what half-truths will be peddled to justify the KCAA actions.
Tanzanian private sector aviation sources have confirmed that they are putting pressure on the TCAA to finally hit back and either curtail flights by Kenyan airlines into Dar es Salaam or inflict pain by launching a series of ramp checks on Kenyan airlines after landing on Tanzanian soil. Time no doubt will tell how this pans out, alongside Fastjet's application for an air service license in Kenya, which has equally stalled.
'It makes a mockery of Kenya's position to invite foreign companies to invest and help create jobs. Their government says one thing and as you ably pointed out, their aviation regulators in particular do the exact opposite. It is little relief to see that this is happening to RwandAir too but just goes to prove that these guys in Nairobi are up to no good' said a source close to Fastjet who in the past periodically gave spot on details later shown to be entirely correct.
There was consensus among the Ugandan media teams present in Nairobi that KCAA appears to have almost deliberately avoided meeting the scribes and facing questions, which no doubt will now be asked in the Ugandan press and of course on aviation blogs.
All eyes will be on the next Head of State Summit of the Northern Corridor Integration and of course on RwandAir, waiting for the announcement that they will add the second daily flight between Nairobi and Entebbe. Bookings are already ‘coming in strong and it will get better now that we have launched Nairobi. Our Commercial GM captured it all when he said we are punctual, safe and affordable and that is what Ugandan travelers expect from us. Our Juba flights are a big success and we hope for the same for the new Nairobi flights' said a RwandAir staff on condition of anonymity for not being the official spokesperson of the company. As the saying goes, do watch this space for breaking and regular aviation news from across Eastern Africa.
https://wolfganghthome.wordpress.co...-among-the-east-african-aviation-authorities/
KENYA'S AVIATION REGULATORS BECOME EAST AFRICA'S BOGEY MAN
(Posted 30th January 2015)
image232image233Ugandan journalists invited for the inaugural flight by RwandAir from Entebbe to Nairobi, alerted by comments made at the speeches prior to the flight about various challenges and obstacles encountered, were all geared up to ask the representative/s of Kenya's aviation regulator some hard questions at the venue of the launch party, the EKU Hotel.
There was however some bitter disappointment among the scribes when they came to notice that, after the speeches were delivered and the champagne corks popped, it was only RwandAir's General Manager Commercial Mikael Gobena who was ready to answer questions while the representative of the KCAA who was present at the launch, had conveniently absented himself.
Uganda had granted RwandAir fifth freedom rights to a number of destinations out of Entebbe last year and according to the airline's CEO John Mirenge it took a mere two days to tie up the paperwork and sign and seal the deal which saw RwandAir become Uganda's adopted now home airline.
In contrast did it take months of deadlocked negotiations with the Kenyan aviation authorities, the impasse only broken when the Heads of State of the Northern Corridor Integration, aka Coalition of the Willing, on the 11th of December directed their respective bureaucrats to open up the East African skies by 31st of December, or else.
It now appears that the Kenyan regulators can brace themselves for the 'or else' experience as it has become clear just how hard they tried to frustrate RwandAir's efforts to operationalize the fifth freedom rights between Entebbe and Nairobi.
December 31st came and passed and still did the Kenyan regulators continue to play their games, and when RwandAir finally announced a launch date it had to be withdrawn just two days later when suddenly the issue of 'slot times' was raised, further delaying the inaugural flight. From both insiders as well as direct investigations it became clear, that once that issue was finally put to rest did the Kenyan regulators then spring yet another surprise on RwandAir, capping the capacity on the Entebbe – Nairobi flight, which originates from Kigali and returns to Kigali from Nairobi, to a reported 40 percent.
RwandAir however, it seems, is not taking this latest insult laying down and has already objected to this final obstacle. This is perhaps the reason at this moment in time that a second daily flight has been pushed until at least April, to allow for this final hurdle, one hopes it is the final hurdle, to be cleared.
A source from Kigali was specific in suggesting, that the matter may well be referred to the next Head of State meeting and if so, would no doubt show Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta that there are forces at work in his administration aimed to defy his directive and slow down the integration process. The main purpose after all was to open the skies over the three countries, plus Southern Sudan which was part of the meeting in December, and bring the cost of air travel down to make it more affordable for wider parts of the population.
'The Kenyans are playing with fire here' said an aviation source from Uganda before continuing 'The directive on the 11th December was very clear and yet has KCAA managed to obstruct and delay. This went so far to even allow another Kenyan airline to fly from Nairobi to Entebbe and yet there is no Ugandan airline flying from Entebbe to Nairobi. Our UCAA gave that new Kenyan airlines traffic rights with no ifs and buts and no such conditions. UCAA also made RwandAir our designate airline when they gave them fifth freedom rights, or as you call them our adopted airline. Kenya has no right to obstruct us in this way. In a coalition of the willing all elements have to be willing and no single partner should play foul all the time. And this is what the Kenyans have done, played foul. Have they learned nothing from their spats with Tanzania? Do they want to have an air war with us too?'.
This correspondent in fact had intended to ask the Kenyan CAA representative what exactly their problem is with the application by Fastjet to commence scheduled flights from Dar es Salaam to Nairobi, and being in possession of a transcript made by a participant in the meeting between the Kenyan and Tanzanian delegation at the sidelines of ICAN in Bali last year, it will be interesting to see what will happen next or what half-truths will be peddled to justify the KCAA actions.
Tanzanian private sector aviation sources have confirmed that they are putting pressure on the TCAA to finally hit back and either curtail flights by Kenyan airlines into Dar es Salaam or inflict pain by launching a series of ramp checks on Kenyan airlines after landing on Tanzanian soil. Time no doubt will tell how this pans out, alongside Fastjet's application for an air service license in Kenya, which has equally stalled.
'It makes a mockery of Kenya's position to invite foreign companies to invest and help create jobs. Their government says one thing and as you ably pointed out, their aviation regulators in particular do the exact opposite. It is little relief to see that this is happening to RwandAir too but just goes to prove that these guys in Nairobi are up to no good' said a source close to Fastjet who in the past periodically gave spot on details later shown to be entirely correct.
There was consensus among the Ugandan media teams present in Nairobi that KCAA appears to have almost deliberately avoided meeting the scribes and facing questions, which no doubt will now be asked in the Ugandan press and of course on aviation blogs.
All eyes will be on the next Head of State Summit of the Northern Corridor Integration and of course on RwandAir, waiting for the announcement that they will add the second daily flight between Nairobi and Entebbe. Bookings are already ‘coming in strong and it will get better now that we have launched Nairobi. Our Commercial GM captured it all when he said we are punctual, safe and affordable and that is what Ugandan travelers expect from us. Our Juba flights are a big success and we hope for the same for the new Nairobi flights' said a RwandAir staff on condition of anonymity for not being the official spokesperson of the company. As the saying goes, do watch this space for breaking and regular aviation news from across Eastern Africa.
https://wolfganghthome.wordpress.co...-among-the-east-african-aviation-authorities/
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You can relax now: RwandaAir has been alowed by KCAA to fly its 5th freedom rights ,flights to Nairobi.
You can relax now: RwandaAir has been alowed by KCAA to fly its 5th freedom rights ,flights to Nairobi.
Geza Ulole
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what has a flight from Kigali or Entebbe has got to do with me in Dar?
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Geza Ulole, keyboard activism is a failed thing. Try other methods to confront the kenyan authorities over this and the several other issues that are gnawing your insides, that have led to your unfettered dislike for kenyans.
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Geza Ulole
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Its not failing i am bringing awareness to other people esp.my Tanzanian brothers and sisters! They deserve to know you people and your hypocrisy!
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What awareness? But they liken us to manyang'aus, meaning they already know our true nature.
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Duty to remind the evil around the region is my citizenry
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And u biliv u have really succeeded in that end? Whatta pity!
Instead u have shown yourself as an irrational baffoon, constantly insulting and demeaning Kenyans even when it's clearly uncalled for.
You have only succeeded in exposing veiled jealousy by many tanzanians towards Kenyans.
You resent our progress, thus ur constant unnecessary attacks.
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Arent you the one who posted the article about rwanda finding difficulties getting permission to fly to Kenya? If KCAA which was said to be delaying RwandaAir to fly the Nairobi-Entebe route because Kenya airways will loose out to competition (With Uganda bieng Kenya's largest trading partner). If RwandaAir has been allowed, its only a martter of time before FastJet is allowed; So u can relax, soon you will be able to use your FastJet
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