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Egypt charms Kenya over Nile

Discussion in 'Kenyan News and Politics' started by Smatta, May 26, 2010.

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  1. Smatta

    Smatta JF-Expert Member

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    Egypt has launched a charm offensive on Kenya even as Nairobi insists Cairo must sign the new treaty on the use of River Nile’s waters.

    The signing of the Comprehensive Framework Agreement by upstream countries has annoyed Cairo, which has a disproportionate share of the water according to colonial era treaties.

    And in Cairo on Tuesday, Egypt offered to fund a range of projects in Kenya.

    In a meeting with a visiting delegation led by Prime Minister Raila Odinga, his Egyptian counterpart, Dr Ahmed Nazif, said the projects include environmental conservation, water harvesting, drilling of boreholes and construction of dams.

    For a start, he said, the Egyptian government will revive a borehole drilling programme started in early 2000.

    But in Nairobi, Foreign Affairs minister Moses Wetang’ula denied that the North African country was attempting to entice Kenya and other upstream states to drop the CFA treaty and return to the 1929 and 1959 agreements.

    Mr Wetang’ula reiterated calls to Egypt and Sudan to come on board and sign the CFA.

    He echoed Mr Odinga’s remarks when he met Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo on Sunday that Kenya would not compromise the security of countries that use the Nile.

    A Kenyan expert said Egypt should be made to pay for the water it has been drawing from the Nile.

    Dr Philip Raburu, a university lecturer and hydro-biologist said that Egypt’s offer to help in the conservation of Kenya’s water towers was a right, not a favour.

    He said that in other agreements on transboundary waters, downstream countries pay the upstream countries for the water they get.
     
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    These guys (Egypt) mast pay for this water the way we pay for fuel
     
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    we've not commit any sin; the source L.Victoria is in our motherlands, if we are not carefull these arabs will ask not fish. Sisi tumechika mpini
     
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    Nakuagizia kikombe cha chai! Safi sana!
     
  5. Smatta

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    Let them give us everything, we have already signed the treaty and we are not back pedaling on this, they have taken us for a ride for far too long.
     
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    good comment smatta!
     
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    Wakati wa uganda, tz, rwanda and ethiopia wana sign nile basin cfa kenya wamekataa kusign and instead raila odinga ameenda egypt kwenda kuomba permission ya kutumuia water


    shame to raila and kenya. Kudos to uganda for hosting the signing ceremeony and tz, ethiopia and rwanda for signing it.
     
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    Wakenya wana akili...wanajua nguvu za uchumi na za kijeshi za Egypt...Wakenya hawakukurupuka tu kusign..kwa hilo nawapongeza
     
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    Best ushaupitia ule mkataba ulosainiwa na waingereza mwaka 1929? jaribu kuugoogle ndo utaona kuwa alichokifanya huyu Odinga siyo safi!
     
  10. Muthaisu

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    Wakenya wanaona mbali sana ....Raila was just playing politics! Tz guys will always feel that there country was Kenya but God mispalced them ..poleni jameni!:rofl:
     
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    hawana akili bali uoga. Egpyt hana ubavu wa kuzipiga tz, ug, rw na ethiopia kwa pamoja.

    Raila tokea amenyooshwa na kibaki hapendi viongozi wa east africa kwa ajili hawakumsupport
     
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    Kenyans are too brave to be afraid of Egypt , what we dont want is to upset the aple cat , remember there is comesa ohter that EAC- which you guys are still suspecting?
     
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    u

    Huyo Raila hakuna kitu, na hata hiyo EAF imekuta sijui rais wetu kipofu basi tu
     
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    Kituko JF-Expert Member

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    huo mkataba umewekwa na waingereza na kenya hakuna tofauti na Zimbabwe, zote nchi za Mwingereza kwa hiyo kwa kenya ni vigumu sana kukubali kuupinda mkataba wa Waingereza, hii East Africa haifai hata kidogo hasa Kenya akiwemo
     
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    Watu ninaowaonea huruma sana ni Ethiopia. Chanzo kikubwa cha mto ni kwao ila bado wako susceptible to severe droughts mara kwa mara. Kuna vipengele vyingi vya kurekebishwa katika mkataba wa matumizi na ingependeza kwanza Misri na Sudan wakajishusha kidogo na kuanza kuthamini wenzao. Kuhusu Kenya, mimi sijashangazwa na hatua ya Raila
     
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    This clearly shows how selfish and self-centered these people are, this is the second incident that Kenya has betrayed other EAC's member state. Do you remember Tanzania's ivory? The question that ought to be ask is how can EAC move forward if member are back stabbing each other and can't agree on important issues such as can't agree on important issues such as Nile Basin.
     
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    jamani, MBONA KAMA NILISIKIA WAMESIGN HADI NIKAWAKONGORACHULETI HAPA? WAMESAINI JAMANI, AU?

    bofya hapa
     
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    Jamani tujaribu kufanya uchunguzi kabla ya kukurupa, kuandika vitu bila data zote

    Kenya signs Nile Basin deal rejected by Egypt

    Wed May 19, 2010 10:54am GMTBy Duncan Miriri
    NAIROBI (Reuters) - Kenya signed a new agreement to alter historic water sharing arrangements for the River Nile on Wednesday and said Egypt, which opposes the deal, had little choice but to join the other states.

    Egypt charms Kenya over Nile

    By WALTER MENYA and PMPS
    Posted Tuesday, May 25 2010 at 21:00

    Egypt has launched a charm offensive on Kenya even as Nairobi insists Cairo must sign the new treaty on the use of River Nile's waters.

    The signing of the Comprehensive Framework Agreement by upstream countries has annoyed Cairo, which has a disproportionate share of the water according to colonial era treaties.



    And in Cairo on Tuesday, Egypt offered to fund a range of projects in Kenya.



    In a meeting with a visiting delegation led by Prime Minister Raila Odinga, his Egyptian counterpart, Dr Ahmed Nazif, said the projects include environmental conservation, water harvesting, drilling of boreholes and construction of dams.



    For a start, he said, the Egyptian government will revive a borehole drilling programme started in early 2000.

    But in Nairobi, Foreign Affairs minister Moses Wetang'ula denied that the North African country was attempting to entice Kenya and other upstream states to drop the CFA treaty and return to the 1929 and 1959 agreements.



    Mr Wetang'ula reiterated calls to Egypt and Sudan to come on board and sign the CFA.



    He echoed Mr Odinga's remarks when he met Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo on Sunday that Kenya would not compromise the security of countries that use the Nile.



    A Kenyan expert said Egypt should be made to pay for the water it has been drawing from the Nile.



    Dr Philip Raburu, a university lecturer and hydro-biologist said that Egypt's offer to help in the conservation of Kenya's water towers was a right, not a favour.




    He said that in other agreements on transboundary waters, downstream countries pay the upstream countries for the water they get.



    Raila alikuwa huko Egypt Tuesday, May 25. Baada ya mkataba kuwa signed.
    Saa zingine chuki inawafanya watu kuwa vipofu
     
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    Hili mkubwa hatulikatai, walisaini ila Omera alipokwenda Egypty aliwaambia jamaa kuwa maji ya mto hayataguswa na East Africans, sasa hii mkubwa si ni kujicontradict?
     
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    Tuletee source, si kusema tu
     
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