Safari_ni_Safari
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I see nothing wrong with KENYA......just LOVE thy neighbor!!
I see nothing wrong with KENYA......just LOVE thy neighbor!!
And there is nothing wrong with Tanzania, just a terrible FEAR FACTOR
Kama ingewezekana tungeifanya iwe poll kabisa.
Basing on -Tribal conflicts
-Income inequalilty
-Inflow of Foreign based/owned companies
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Why do you choose to be stupid!?..any company incorporated in Kenya must have Kenyan partners and shareholders,according to the law..that was then,now Kenyans have taken control of most public companies thru IPO's and many have started their own.Its myopic people like you that make Tanzanians remain stupid,always living in denial.Shame..i guess as a person,you are a failure..i dont c a person with your mentality can be of any help even to himself..leave alone the society!.Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!..Jinga wewe!
After reading through the material Iam shocked at the callumy my piece has generated. There a few sensible arguments and these are the people I would responding to. Much of the outburst is not worth my response.
My story for the sensible ones, was meant to demonstrate that Tanzania is losing out on opportunities that are rightly hers. For instance Tanzanian Politicians opposed the sale of ATC to KQ in the pretext that they are protecting their tourism industry. To date the tourism industry is still intact, what is not intact is ATC. If KQ had bought ATC, Tanzania would have both a thriving ATC and a thriving tourism industry.
Lets pick up a few facts that my story sought to drive home.
According to official reports by Tanzania's ministry of agriculture, some 0.6 million head of cattle are exported to Kenya every year. This is because although Tanzania boasts of the second largest heard of livestock in Africa, per capita meat consumption is 28 Kg a year compared to kenyans who wallop 100 kgs per head a year. To add insult to injury, the meat processing plant in Tanzania, that used to exist in the neighbourhood of Kawe in Dar died years ago.
Tragically the Ministry did not write this report in order to support the rehabilitation of the plant. It was looking at the taxes lost through what it termed as smuggling.
In 2008, there was a minister in charge of East African community going by the name Kamala, I wonder what happened to him. This fellow was spewing hatred for Kenya. His pet subject was the Milk processing plant in Arusha that was bought by the Kenyatta Family. The plant has a capacity to process some 60,000 litres a day. Yet the entire region, incorporating Arusha, Kilimanjaro, and Tanga provinces, can produce only 12,000 litres, that is one-fifth of the capacity of the plant at Arusha. According to studies by the Ministry of Finance in Tanzania, the region city to produce 300,000 litres of milk a day. In Kenya one division called Githunguri produces 200,000 litres of milk.
Brookside, the Kenyan owner of the Tanzania plant, found it uneconomical to process that quantity in Tanzania. Instead, they ship the milk and process it in Kenya, then sell it in Tanzania as a Tanzanian product-which it is. This is called contract processing and it is a reasonable business activity. Even Kenyan companies contract the Tanzania Coffee processor to process their instant coffee.
What Kamala forgot was; the company he wanted closed was actually doing the farmers in that region a favour. If Brookside does not buy the milk and process it, it would be poured since the marketing infrastructure for raw milk in Tanzania is non-existent.He was condemning the pastoralists to poverty.
Rather condemning them, he should have organised to have local farmers trained in animal husbandry in Kenya so that they increase their milk output. More milk output would drag Tanzania farmers out of poverty. It has done that in Kenya.
So now land is the excuse. One Samuel Sitta, who was the chairman of Tanzania Investment promotion Corporation, now the Minister for commerce and industry knows very well that Kenyans would only buy land in Tanzania if they need it for productive purposes, otherwise land as of itself has no intrinsic value to anyone, leave alone Kenyans.
So Kenyans must be seeking to invest in Tanzania in order to need land. In fact, apart from Tanzania no one else in EACM worries about "neighbours eyeing their land greedily."
And Kenyans have access to more land in Kenya than Tanzanians believe. And since they need for investment purposes, they have a greater access to it in the region than Tanzania wants us to believe.
It is a tragedy that when we raise issues that we understand very well, when we seek to enlighten Tanzanians- their Media is one of the most incompetent in Africa- they only see arrogance on our part. Tanzania, as one sensible person put it has the potential to grow big. But with such intellectual dwarfs are are found in this forum, it is doomed.
Hi all. I am shocked but not surprised. Kenya Commercial bank is a kenya owned Bank, so is Kenya Airways, Equity Bank, Uchumi Super markets, Nakumatt Supermarkets, Other Banks such as Barclays, standard Chartered are 59% Kenyan owned.
The gist of the story is simply, Tanzania is afraid of its shadow. Can those spewing insults tell us the largest Kenyan land owner owns how many acres in Tanzania? The land issues is simply a smokescreen for the real issue- sabotage. Tanzania Caused the death of EAC in 1977 because it wanted to slow Kenya down until they catch up-a pip dream which they still pursue - and a dismal failure.
The truth Kenya is the leading market in Africa for Tanzania manufactured and agricultural produce. So does Tanzania need Kenya? Try closing border.
What I am saying Tanzania will one day regret he opportunities it let go in pursuit of the wind. And Kenya, the largest economy in East Africa . I can cite specific cases where Tanzania officials acted out rightly stupid.
you shall find yourself living in dark days if you spend more energy creating hate then seeking peace within yourself, I only hope you find faith before its too late. Never bring a knife to a gunfight, if this Hoshea guy is the best comeback for the intellectual discourse Mwathai had posted up there, then I fear for your country. This is more proof that your political system (villagization/ African socialism) has done more harm than good for your country.
Hi all. I am shocked but not surprised. Kenya Commercial bank is a kenya owned Bank, so is Kenya Airways, Equity Bank, Uchumi Super markets, Nakumatt Supermarkets, Other Banks such as Barclays, standard Chartered are 59% Kenyan owned.
The gist of the story is simply, Tanzania is afraid of its shadow. Can those spewing insults tell us the largest Kenyan land owner owns how many acres in Tanzania? The land issues is simply a smokescreen for the real issue- sabotage. Tanzania Caused the death of EAC in 1977 because it wanted to slow Kenya down until they catch up-a pip dream which they still pursue - and a dismal failure.
The truth Kenya is the leading market in Africa for Tanzania manufactured and agricultural produce. So does Tanzania need Kenya? Try closing border.
What I am saying Tanzania will one day regret he opportunities it let go in pursuit of the wind. And Kenya, the largest economy in East Africa . I can cite specific cases where Tanzania officials acted out rightly stupid.
Don't abuse your friends and expect them to consider it criticismAti Kenya companies! ********* nathani! Angalia share holding ujue kuwa those r Kenyan incorporated companies and not Kenyan owned! The owner of those companies like many other decide where to invest is not upon u to cry a river! Who wants ur investments anyway? BTW hiyo KCB ina market share ngapi Tanzania i bet hata 5% haifiki nobody uses KCB except for loans u must be fooling urself!