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Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania
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hakuna kubahatisha........
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Hilo najua, hata kwa sasa, majority ya imports za Rwanda hupitia Dar, kama 20% pekee ndo huja na Mombasa.... LAkini nilifikiri baada ya kuchapa dili ya SGR to Dar, Rwanda hawatakua na mda wa kujisumbua na route zengine manake kapacity ya SGR itakua inawatosheleza hata waongeze mizigo yao x10 times! Alafu ukichanganya na barabara ya kutoka Dar hadi Kigali.......
Kwahivyo hakuna haja ya Rwanda kjisumbua na route ya Kenya tena baada ya kuanzisha mradi wa SGR kwenda Dar....
So either wamegundua hio SGR ya Kwenda Dar inaweza kuchelewa kufika Kigali kwahivyo afadhali waendelee kuwekeza kwa routes zengine ambazo zitashikilia au uniambie wanatafuta alternative routes za mizigo yao for economic strategic reasons kama vile Ethiopia wanatafuta route ya kupitia Kenya, Djibouti, Somalia, Sudan... ili hata wakifungiwa njia upande mmoja, wako na njia mbadala kadhaa.
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usiniqoute kwa mambo ya kijinga, maumivu yakizidi........jifukize!
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Hamna mtu anakataa cha bure, unless u prove to us Rwanda will refuse a chance to have a site at Isaka if ordered kesho!
BTW ur truck drivers r undoing ur regional prospects as we speak there's an upsurge of traffic in the central corridor probably due to the current wrangles btn the truck drivers n the Ugandan authorities.
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The issue of Truck Drivers is not a proble from just the Ugandan authorities, The long ques are on both sides! Kenya too requires all drivers to be tested before crossing the border and Uganda too is doing the same, but the logistics of testing is proving to be cumbersome
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wishful thinking!
tanzania is the epicenter of corona virus in East Africa, hamjijui wala hamjielewi.
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Ona jinsi tunavyopaswa habari ya maendeleo ya nchi yetu. Kwa uwazi na ufasahaza. hakuna nchi aambayo imewahi kufanya mambo kama haya Africa nzima. Halafu leo hii watu wanakuja humu kusema eti nchi ytu ya kidikteta na hakuna uhuru. MSHINDWE WOTE MAADUI ZETU!
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One of the stupid comment i hv ever read...keep crying like a little punk bby....but truth always reveil it self....and so far i think you alread know...so keep play with bleming game as your gvt did be4, eventually it take you nowere...
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STALEMATE
Uganda reluctant to use Naivasha as key transit cargo depot
Ugandans wants to continue picking cargo from Mombasa.
In Summary
•Kenya says all transit cargo destined for the hinterland will effective June 2, be cleared and collected from the Naivasha ICD.
•SGR from Mombasa to Suswa reduces distance between Mombasa and Kampala by about 527 kilometres, a relief for importers but a cut on transporters’ earnings.
'HARD TIMES': Long distance trucks line up along the Amagoro-Malaba Highway as they wait to cross the border to Uganda
Image: EMOJONG OSERE
Uganda is unwilling to use the Naivasha Inland Container Depot as its key transit cargo handling facility despite Kenya's push to relocate operations from Mombasa and Nairobi.
According to Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia, all transit cargo destined for the hinterland will effective June 2, be cleared and collected from the Naivasha facility.
However a communiqué from Uganda’s Ministry of Works and Transport, seen by the Star, however, indicates the neighbouring country is not ready for Naivasha , and would prefer to continue picking their cargo from Mombasa.
Kenya's move is aimed at among others, reducing the distance and exposure to Covid-19, even as the Northern Corridor remains on red alert.
“Naivasha will be a transshipment centre. Instead of driving all the way to Mombasa, another 600 kilometers, they will be picking cargo from Naivasha,” Macharia said on the telephone.
But according to Uganda’s Minister of Works and Transport Edward Katumba-Wamala, the use of the Naivasha ICD for transit cargo would not reduce traffic, as truck drivers will still be required to pick containers from Naivasha to their destination.
“Therefore, it is our considered opinion that the use of Naivasha ICD which is part of our long term regional infrastructure development should remain optional,” Katumba says in a letter to Macharia.
He says if Kenya makes it more attractive, big industry players and shippers such as Bollore Logistics , Mukwano Group of Companies and others “can be encouraged to start using this facility because of economies of scale.”
Katumba however affirmed Uganda’s commitment to the development of regional infrastructure and monitoring of truck drivers to reduce the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic .
CS Macharia, Katumba and their Rwandan transport counterpart are expected to hold discussions tomorrow (Friday) to iron out existing obstacles, even as the Kenyan government insists on the use of the Naivasha facility.
According to Macharia, the use of Naivasha is in line with the region’s Heads of State agreement to put in place measures to contain the coronavirus.
“This is our position and we are going to implement,” Macharia said yesterday.
China Communications Construction Company Limited handed over the Sh6.9 billion facility to the government on May 7, when CS Macharia led a delegation of government officials to release the first 200 TUEs destined for Uganda.
The facility comprises over 1,000 acres of space with a marshalling area able to hold 700 trucks at any given time.
To support cargo clearance, Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) on Tuesday said it has commenced operations at Naivasha.
“The transfer will decongest the Port of Mombasa and improve efficiency at the facility,” acting Commissioner for Customs and Border Control Pamela Ahago said in a statement.
Uganda's, decision which the ministry says was in consultation with the private sector, appears more of a strategy to continue cashing in on long-haul transport charges on the 1,144 kilometres stretch between Mombasa and Kampala.
Currently, it costs an average of $2,100 (about Sh225,120) to move a 20-foot container from Mombasa to Kampala.
The SGR to Suswa reduces the distance by about 527 kilometres, meaning relief for importers and exporters but a cut on earnings to transport companies.
“SGR takes 10 hours from Mombasa to Naivasha saving clients 18 hours,” Macharia said, adding that the use of the new facility will also reduce road damages, accidents and increase efficiency in cargo movement.
Uganda accounts for 83.2 per cent of transit cargo through the port of Mombasa. South Sudan takes up 9.9 per cent while DR Congo, Tanzania and Rwanda account for 7.2 per cent, 3.2 per cent and 2.4 per cent respectively.
The Naivasha facility has a One Stop Centre (OSC) model where all key government agencies offer their services to clients.
Regional revenue authorities including Uganda Revenue Authority, Rwanda Revenue Authority, Tanzania Revenue Authority and Burundi Revenue Authority are housed at the OSC.
“KRA is well equipped to handle the huge capacity expected from Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi at the facility. The ICD will increase efficiency, as KRA is able to monitor cargo in Naivasha through the Joint Monitoring Centre,” Ahago said.
Uganda reluctant to use Naivasha as key transit cargo depot
MY TAKE
I already saw this, as long as the cost of taking cargo from Naivasha is higher than using trucks from Mombasa this deal will not be supported. It is too wrong to use the hinterland countries to pay the cost of ur bloated corruption on SGR Kenya. Now lets wait for that June 3rd n see how will transporters react, i see them en masse moving to the central corridor if Kenya Railways is to force them picking cargo at Naivasha Depot!
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Bollore Logistics already started transporting all their Ugandan bound containers exclusively on the SGR to Naivasha so jokes on youSTALEMATE
Uganda reluctant to use Naivasha as key transit cargo depot
Ugandans wants to continue picking cargo from Mombasa.
In Summary
•Kenya says all transit cargo destined for the hinterland will effective June 2, be cleared and collected from the Naivasha ICD.
•SGR from Mombasa to Suswa reduces distance between Mombasa and Kampala by about 527 kilometres, a relief for importers but a cut on transporters’ earnings.
'HARD TIMES': Long distance trucks line up along the Amagoro-Malaba Highway as they wait to cross the border to Uganda
Image: EMOJONG OSERE
Uganda is unwilling to use the Naivasha Inland Container Depot as its key transit cargo handling facility despite Kenya's push to relocate operations from Mombasa and Nairobi.
According to Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia, all transit cargo destined for the hinterland will effective June 2, be cleared and collected from the Naivasha facility.
However a communiqué from Uganda’s Ministry of Works and Transport, seen by the Star, however, indicates the neighbouring country is not ready for Naivasha , and would prefer to continue picking their cargo from Mombasa.
Kenya's move is aimed at among others, reducing the distance and exposure to Covid-19, even as the Northern Corridor remains on red alert.
“Naivasha will be a transshipment centre. Instead of driving all the way to Mombasa, another 600 kilometers, they will be picking cargo from Naivasha,” Macharia said on the telephone.
But according to Uganda’s Minister of Works and Transport Edward Katumba-Wamala, the use of the Naivasha ICD for transit cargo would not reduce traffic, as truck drivers will still be required to pick containers from Naivasha to their destination.
“Therefore, it is our considered opinion that the use of Naivasha ICD which is part of our long term regional infrastructure development should remain optional,” Katumba says in a letter to Macharia.
He says if Kenya makes it more attractive, big industry players and shippers such as Bollore Logistics , Mukwano Group of Companies and others “can be encouraged to start using this facility because of economies of scale.”
Katumba however affirmed Uganda’s commitment to the development of regional infrastructure and monitoring of truck drivers to reduce the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic .
CS Macharia, Katumba and their Rwandan transport counterpart are expected to hold discussions tomorrow (Friday) to iron out existing obstacles, even as the Kenyan government insists on the use of the Naivasha facility.
According to Macharia, the use of Naivasha is in line with the region’s Heads of State agreement to put in place measures to contain the coronavirus.
“This is our position and we are going to implement,” Macharia said yesterday.
China Communications Construction Company Limited handed over the Sh6.9 billion facility to the government on May 7, when CS Macharia led a delegation of government officials to release the first 200 TUEs destined for Uganda.
The facility comprises over 1,000 acres of space with a marshalling area able to hold 700 trucks at any given time.
To support cargo clearance, Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) on Tuesday said it has commenced operations at Naivasha.
“The transfer will decongest the Port of Mombasa and improve efficiency at the facility,” acting Commissioner for Customs and Border Control Pamela Ahago said in a statement.
Uganda's, decision which the ministry says was in consultation with the private sector, appears more of a strategy to continue cashing in on long-haul transport charges on the 1,144 kilometres stretch between Mombasa and Kampala.
Currently, it costs an average of $2,100 (about Sh225,120) to move a 20-foot container from Mombasa to Kampala.
The SGR to Suswa reduces the distance by about 527 kilometres, meaning relief for importers and exporters but a cut on earnings to transport companies.
“SGR takes 10 hours from Mombasa to Naivasha saving clients 18 hours,” Macharia said, adding that the use of the new facility will also reduce road damages, accidents and increase efficiency in cargo movement.
Uganda accounts for 83.2 per cent of transit cargo through the port of Mombasa. South Sudan takes up 9.9 per cent while DR Congo, Tanzania and Rwanda account for 7.2 per cent, 3.2 per cent and 2.4 per cent respectively.
The Naivasha facility has a One Stop Centre (OSC) model where all key government agencies offer their services to clients.
Regional revenue authorities including Uganda Revenue Authority, Rwanda Revenue Authority, Tanzania Revenue Authority and Burundi Revenue Authority are housed at the OSC.
“KRA is well equipped to handle the huge capacity expected from Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi at the facility. The ICD will increase efficiency, as KRA is able to monitor cargo in Naivasha through the Joint Monitoring Centre,” Ahago said.
Uganda reluctant to use Naivasha as key transit cargo depot
MY TAKE
I already saw this, as long as the cost of taking cargo from Naivasha is higher than using trucks from Mombasa this deal will not be supported. It is too wrong to use the hinterland countries to pay the cost of ur bloated corruption on SGR Kenya. Now lets wait for that June 3rd n see how will transporters react, i see them en masse moving to the central corridor if Kenya Railways is to force them picking cargo at Naivasha Depot!
umesoma ‘my take’ yake?? deni lenu la kulipa SGR loan isiwe sababu ya kuwalazimisha wafanyabiashara wa nchi nyingine watumie SGR yenu.. wao hawakuwaforce mjenge SGR kwa gharama kubwa. waachien wafanye wanavyotaka wao, msilazimishe watumie SGR & Naiv ICD zenu
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