Ben Carson: Muslim should not be elected US president

Ben Carson: Muslim should not be elected US president

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tuheshimu mawazo yake kama tunavyoheshimu ya nyerere alivyokataa makabila fulani yasiwe rais

Hakuna muda wa kuheshimu mawazo muflisi!!!!! Uliwahi kumsikia Nyerere akitamka kuyakataa makabila flani yasiwe raisi????? Au ni propelled hisia zilizojengwa enzi zile zinakufanya uamini hilo????
 
There is separation of state and religion in the USA.

And if one wants to be strict about religiosity, Christians should not be president. The USA is secular.

That means, you can have whatever religion and serve this country, as long as you respect secularism.

Now, it boils to the definition of what is a Christian or Muslim.

Bertrand Russell trated this question thoroughly in his essay "Why I am not A Christian".

The distinction between Christian and Muslim is feeble and artificial
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Strictly speaking, they are all equally deluded.
katamke hayo maneno saudia usipokatwa kichwa kwa kuudhalilisha uislam
 

Hakuna muda wa kuheshimu mawazo muflisi!!!!! Uliwahi kumsikia Nyerere akitamka kuyakataa makabila flani yasiwe raisi????? Au ni propelled hisia zilizojengwa enzi zile zinakufanya uamini hilo????
nawananga watu waliomlisha nyerere maneno....nayatumia kwa faida zangu katika hii mada kama wanavyomlisha na kuyatumia against harakati za watu wengine

Nyerere hakutamka hayo maneno ila nimeamua kujitoa akili kama wajitoavyo pindi wanapohujumu harakati za wengine kwa kofia ya nyerere
 
It will take ages for the US to be under the control of a Muslim, but truth be told, Carson's words are not presidential at all levels.
 
Wanayodhihirisha kwenye ndimi zao ni machache kuliko yanayojificha kwenye vifua vyao
 
America is a secular territory. Their constitution does not allow any segregation basing on faith or religion.
 
THE same to tz
only mkatoliki na mshia can be elected na sio sunni na waprotestant.

ubaguzi ni asili ya mwanadamu wala usikusumbue
Ni kweli inaweza kuwa ni sehemu ya ubinadamu wetu ila tusiundekeze,tunatakiwa tuupige vita kweli kweli kwasababu ni chanzo cha genocides nyingi dunia na atrocities mingi dunia. Kiukweli hatupo safe tukiendekeza huu ubaguzi.
Tanzia kama hii ipo tupo doomed kulivunja taifa hili.
 
Huyu jamaa hasomi historia. Na kwa sababu ya chuki zake amepumbazika. Awali walisema weusi hawatakiwi kuongoza marekani. Leo mjaluo yuko ikulu. Sasa hii ni episode nyingine
 
Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson has triggered a massive public backlash by openly declaring that he would not endorse a Muslim as President of the United States, as he claims that Islam is not compatible with the US constitution.

Speaking to NBC News’ ‘Meet the Press’ Carson said that he would “not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.”

The reason for the retired brain surgeon’s views, he claims is the fact that some faiths are not aligned with the US constitution.

“I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem," Carson said.

The comments sparked an outrage among the Muslim community in the United States with the country’s largest Muslim civil rights group condemning the politician's reasoning.

“It's beyond the pale and he should withdraw,” said Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) spokesman Ibrahim Hooper.

“This disqualifies him from being a president,”CAIR director Nihad Awad said. “My advice to GOP presidential candidates: Read the US constitution if you haven't yet! It keeps America great.”

Politicians meanwhile spoke out against any infringement on rights and freedoms.

“Every American should be disturbed that these national figures are engaging in and tolerating blatant acts of religious bigotry,” the first Muslim elected to Congress, Representative Keith Ellison said. “It’s unimaginable that the leading GOP presidential candidates are resorting to fear mongering to benefit their campaigns.”

Democratic presidential hopeful, Senator Bernie Sander said he was “disappointed” in Carson. “It took us too long to overcome the prejudice against electing a Catholic or an African-American president. People should be elected to office based on their ideas, not their religion or the color of their skin,” Sanders said.

Democratic Representative, Debbie Wasserman Schultz meanwhile called for an apology from Carson.

“Of course a Muslim, or any other American citizen, can run for president, end of story. To think otherwise is not only harmful to our political process, but it elevates and validates discrimination in this country,” she said.

Even Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, another presidential candidate, spoke out against Carson's comments, also calling for an apology.

“I think Dr. Carson needs to apologize,” Graham said, adding the comments were particularly offensive to American soldiers who are Muslim.

In response to criticism, Carson’s campaign office said that they support religious freedom, and tried to explain that Carson just “believes that the American people are far from ready to accept a Muslim as President in our Judeo-Christian society.”

“Without question, there are complex differences between the practice of the Muslim faith and our Constitution, differences that are very real and very much in conflict with one another,” spokesman Doug Watts said.

Watts stressed that Carson did not say that a Muslim should be prevented from running in the Presidential race, adding that Carson has “great respect” for the Muslim community.

According to the latest national CNN/ORC poll, Donald Trump is the Republican party’s front-runner with 24 percent support. Carly Fiorina ranks second with 15 percent support just ahead of Ben Carson, who has one percentage point less.

Odd statements about the divisive issues of faith and race have been making headlines among Republican Presidential hopefuls.

Donald Trump let pass unchallenged anti-Muslim comments made by a supporter asserting that US President Barack Obama was a Muslim. Trump later said he was not "morally obligated" to defend Obama against the man's unfounded claim.
 
Hata mimi namuunga Mkono huyu jamaa. Uislam ni zaidi ya rangi. Rangi ni maumbile lakini uislam ni roho!. Kama yael mambo yanayowafanya wakimbie kwao namna wamepachafua, wakiyapeleka na Marekani kama ambavyo historia yao imeonekana kwamba hakuna walipokwenda pakawa salama, waanze kukimbilia wapi tena? Itabaki dunia salama wapi tena?

Ninaungana na dunia kuwapiga marufuku kutawala Amerika ili kuwepo pahala pa kupumulia binadamu.

Naunga mkono hoja!.

Magaidi njoni na matusi yenu yakisindkikzwa na upagani wenu! One, Two Three... Goooooooooo!
 
Hata mimi namuunga Mkono huyu jamaa. Uislam ni zaidi ya rangi. Rangi ni maumbile lakini uislam ni roho!. Kama yael mambo yanayowafanya wakimbie kwao namna wamepachafua, wakiyapeleka na Marekani kama ambavyo historia yao imeonekana kwamba hakuna walipokwenda pakawa salama, waanze kukimbilia wapi tena? Itabaki dunia salama wapi tena?

Ninaungana na dunia kuwapiga marufuku kutawala Amerika ili kuwepo pahala pa kupumulia binadamu.

Naunga mkono hoja!.

Magaidi njoni na matusi yenu yakisindkikzwa na upagani wenu! One, Two Three... Goooooooooo!

Tofauti kubwa ya Uislamu na ukristo ni nini?
 
Iman...
Moja Mohamedi na nyingine ya Yesu.

Hiyo ni tofauti kama vile umewekewa Nissan Patrol mbili za muundo mmoja, zinashabihiana sana, moja nyeupe, nyingine nyekundu.

Ukaambiwa tofauti ya kimsingi kati ya hizo mbili, ukataja rangi.

Ni tofauti, lakini katika msingi wa utendaji wa gari hiyo si tofauti ya kimsingi.

Huyu Carson anasema Waislamu hawafai kuiongoza Marekani.

Marekani ni nchi inayoendeshwa kwa secularism (kutofuata dini yoyote). Inaongozwa kwa misingi ya sheria.

Juzi hapa kumekuwa na mzozo Kentucky kwa sababu mama mmoja mkristo kakataa kutoa marriage certificate kwa watu wa jinsia moja wanaotaka kuoana.

Huyo mama anaitwa Kim Davis. Amesema imani yake ya kikristo haimruhusu kuoa hiyo marriage certificate kwa sababu hakubali kwamba ukristo unaruhusu watu wa jinsia moja wanapaswa kuoana.

Yeye kama county clerk ndiye mtu wa kutoa hiyo license. Dini yake haimruhusu. Kawanyima wenzake marriage certificate ambayo kisheria inaruhusiwa eti kwa sababu tu dini yake anaamini hairuhusu.

Ni sawasawa na Tanzania mtu aende kwa mkuu wa Wilaya kama Makonda, aende kuoa mke wa pili au wa tano, halafu ofisi ya mkuu wa wilaya mtu anayetia saini cheti cha ndoa akatae kumuwekea saini kwa sababu yeye karani ni mkristo na katika dini ya kikristo kuoa mwisho mke mmoja.

Kwa hiyo, utaona kwamba, ukitaka kuchunguza sana habari za dini, mtu yeyote anayetaka kuweka dini mbele ya sheria, awe mkristo au muislamu, hawezi kuongoza kazi za serikali.

Lwa sababu serikali kama hizi za Tanzania na Marekani ni secular, hazina dini.

Sasa kuwasema waislamu tu wakati habari hii ina apply hata kwa wakristo ni kuwaonea.

Kinacjotakiwa ni kuhakikisha mtu wa dini yoyote akitaka kuanza kazi ya serikali anakula kiapo cha kufuata aheria na mambo ya dini kuyaweka oembeni mpaka atakapotoka kazini.
 
Hiyo ni tofauti kama vile umewekewa Nissan Patrol mbili za muundo mmoja, zinashabihiana sana, moja nyeupe, nyingine nyekundu.

Ukaambiwa tofauti ya kimsingi kati ya hizo mbili, ukataja rangi.

Ni tofauti, lakini katika msingi wa utendaji wa gari hiyo si tofauti ya kimsingi.

Huyu Carson anasema Waislamu hawafai kuiongoza Marekani.

Marekani ni nchi inayoendeshwa kwa secularism (kutofuata dini yoyote). Inaongozwa kwa misingi ya sheria.

Juzi hapa kumekuwa na mzozo Kentucky kwa sababu mama mmoja mkristo kakataa kutoa marriage certificate kwa watu wa jinsia moja wanaotaka kuoana.

Huyo mama anaitwa Kim Davis. Amesema imani yake ya kikristo haimruhusu kuoa hiyo marriage certificate kwa sababu hakubali kwamba ukristo unaruhusu watu wa jinsia moja wanapaswa kuoana.

Yeye kama county clerk ndiye mtu wa kutoa hiyo license. Dini yake haimruhusu. Kawanyima wenzake marriage certificate ambayo kisheria inaruhusiwa eti kwa sababu tu dini yake anaamini hairuhusu.

Ni sawasawa na Tanzania mtu aende kwa mkuu wa Wilaya kama Makonda, aende kuoa mke wa pili au wa tano, halafu ofisi ya mkuu wa wilaya mtu anayetia saini cheti cha ndoa akatae kumuwekea saini kwa sababu yeye karani ni mkristo na katika dini ya kikristo kuoa mwisho mke mmoja.

Kwa hiyo, utaona kwamba, ukitaka kuchunguza sana habari za dini, mtu yeyote anayetaka kuweka dini mbele ya sheria, awe mkristo au muislamu, hawezi kuongoza kazi za serikali.

Lwa sababu serikali kama hizi za Tanzania na Marekani ni secular, hazina dini.

Sasa kuwasema waislamu tu wakati habari hii ina apply hata kwa wakristo ni kuwaonea.

Kinacjotakiwa ni kuhakikisha mtu wa dini yoyote akitaka kuanza kazi ya serikali anakula kiapo cha kufuata aheria na mambo ya dini kuyaweka oembeni mpaka atakapotoka kazini.
Kuweka kumbukumbu sawa ni kwamba huyo mama aliyekataa kutoa certificate alijihuzuru mara moja hakung'ang'ania ofisi,
La pili hapo kwa Mkuu wa Wilaya Tz haiwezi kuleta mkanganyiko kwa sababu sheria ya Ndoa inatambua yule mke wa kwanza
 
Ben Carson amesema ukweli usio fichika hata siku moja wamerikani hawawezi kuchagua raisi Muslim...

Mbona ya Saudi amuyaongelei ambapo hata ukikutwa na msalaba ni kosa kisheria
 
I agree with him.
Much as tunajidanganya eti dunia ni ya kila mtu, wenzetu kwenye nchi zao mkristo huwezi kuwa hata diwani.
The US was founded on Christian principles, na I pray God it remains so!
 
Kuweka kumbukumbu sawa ni kwamba huyo mama aliyekataa kutoa certificate alijihuzuru mara moja hakung'ang'ania ofisi,
La pili hapo kwa Mkuu wa Wilaya Tz haiwezi kuleta mkanganyiko kwa sababu sheria ya Ndoa inatambua yule mke wa kwanza

Siyo kweli kuwa yule mama amejiuzulu, bado ni mfanyakazi wa hiyo county, ingawa jukumu la kutoa vyeti anafanya karani mwingine!.
 
Mijitu meusi bwana kwa ubaguzi,wakibaguliwa kwa rangi wanalalamika ila kwa dini ni sawa .meusi ndivyo tulivyo

Mimi ni mkristo na mfuasi mkubwa wa vitabu vya Carrison ila kwa kauli yake hiyo nimechoma vitabu vyake vyote... Ameniudhi sana !
 
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